Ace should just go supernova incinerating the entire Marine force :)
Chapter 571 "The Execution Stand" Discussion
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Yes! Some more Mr.3 action! I really like how Oda has been developing his character over the last year and he's really been helping Luffy out a lot lately.
I wonder what Sengoku's fruit is supposed to be… Buddha Buddha no mi? Hope not. :P
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Now I may be misreading it, but it looks like Sengoku's punch makes Luffy bleed, this could be from fatigue and other injuries, but I think it may just be plain ol' Haki.
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okay mr.3 rly was awesome this chapter but serious.
HOW THE FUCK COULD THE MARINES LET A CRIMINAL COVERED IN MARINE CLOTHES GET TO THE SCAFFOLD???
i mean cmon they don
t take guys for executing they know..or at least have seen before?
idk if mr.3 had a wax-mask on, but seriously even in all that trouble and stuff going on, HOW ON EARTH didn`t someone notive that this guy is no marine… -
It actually says: "Ace joins the battle!!"
Thanks Jamjamstyle. I know some verbal Japanese from watching so much Anime, but unfortunately I haven't had time to formally study the written. However, I've seen Ace's name written out so many times I can easily recognize it.
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@Don:
HOW THE FUCK COULD THE MARINES LET A CRIMINAL COVERED IN MARINE CLOTHES GET TO THE SCAFFOLD???
i mean cmon they don
t take guys for executing they know..or at least have seen before?
idk if mr.3 had a wax-mask on, but seriously even in all that trouble and stuff going on, HOW ON EARTH didn`t someone notive that this guy is no marine…What, is Sengoku supposed to know the names of all 100,000 marines there on sight?
None of us noticed it was Mr. 3 and we're really familiar with him, and know him to be a devious pirate because we only got a slight glance at his face, and we just saw the full marine uniform.
Not to mention, he'd actually managed to get to the other side of the battlefield amidst the chaos. He's an incredibly low level tiny bounty beneath notice or memory, much like Buggy… was. (Particularly with a hat on covering his signature distinctive haircut)
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Now that Ace-san is freed, they all have to start working on thier escape plan. I'm going place my money on the other Supernovas to come and help the pirates get away.
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@Don:
okay mr.3 rly was awesome this chapter but serious.
HOW THE FUCK COULD THE MARINES LET A CRIMINAL COVERED IN MARINE CLOTHES GET TO THE SCAFFOLD???
i mean cmon they don
t take guys for executing they know..or at least have seen before?
idk if mr.3 had a wax-mask on, but seriously even in all that trouble and stuff going on, HOW ON EARTH didn`t someone notive that this guy is no marine…Because the idea of a pirate sneaking up onto the execution platform, right next to Sengoku and Garp is completely whacked. No big name pirate would do anything that sneaky, and anyone who is not a big name can't possibly get past the multitude of marines + VAs + the Shichibukais + the Admirals + Garp and Sengoku. That's why Luffy doing what he did was so shocking. Anyway, the Marines probably never thought that someone would dare to dress up as a marine and sneak up right next to the big guns.
Besides, it's chaotic there. And, the marines have been focusing on Oars Jr, the Division Commanders, most importantly Whitebeard, and finally Luffy. Taking out Whitebeard had become (or rather always was) a priority objective for the Marines, and he was not going to just roll over and die. Add to that the total unexpected factor of a rookie going berserk with King's haki, and rushing all the way to the execution platform. Given what was going on, it's understandable that the marines were not checking IDs of everyone in uniform.
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Question here is, when Ace was about to get executed, was Mr.3 perhaps trying to parry the other blade instead, thus rendering Luffy's haki blast unnecessary?
Or was he really trying to please the "Ace will die" supporting "fans"?
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/569/12-13/
I think we need a Mr.3 one-page flashback next chapter explaining things further, including how he got up there in the first place…
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FINALLY… PLEASE now can we END this arc, I'm soooooo freaking SICK of this arc, I was tried of it halfway through impel down, I want the crew back together already, at this point I'm so sick of the character cause their the only ones I have seen and I have seen enough, I never liked a number of the characters here to begin with, and luffy can only hold his own as an enjoyable character without the other strawhats for so long.
I hate the marines and everything about them, an entire arc built around their egotistical BULLSHIT and incorrect aspect of justice is disgusting.
Personally I think this has to be damn near the 2nd worst chapter, I know I'll catch hell for that, but COME ON, the only one worst was the davy back fights and those were HORRID, due to luffy's shear horrendous captaining abilities.
PLEASE ODA get this over with, ace is free they the pirates when.
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Question here is, when Ace was about to get executed, was Mr.3 perhaps trying to parry the other blade instead, thus rendering Luffy's haki blast unnecessary?
Or was he really trying to please the "Ace will die" supporting "fans"?
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/569/12-13/
I think we need a Mr.3 one-page flashback next chapter explaining things further, including how he got up there in the first place…
I wouldn't sweat too much over the panel showing both executioners lifting their swords to kill Ace. It's there for dramatic effect.
Besides, what would have happened if Mr. 3 had parried or killed the other executioner at that point? He would have been taken out by the Admirals, or Garp, or Sengoku quicker than you can say "Wax Key". I don't think Mr 3 expected the execution order at that time, anyway.
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Still dont get why ppl say Ace is a whinner…
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@xai and robby:
i mean that the marines should normally have special marines which do the job of executing.
and sengoku should know these guys…i dont think that when a executioner can
t do his job just two random marines could come and do that job...normally the marines should have replacements which sengoku should know..sengoku is not a normal person..hes a clever and smart person who should have in such cases people who he trusts in. HE STAND RIGHT NEXT TO THEM, so he should have noticed that it wasn
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Another great chapter. Who would've thought that candle boy mr 3 would have such a huge part in the war.
I haven't been too impressed with Whitebeard during this war, in terms of strength. He's done okay, like attacking Aokiji that time, and taking on a load of marines, but I wanted to see more of his ability. For the last few chapters, he's just been staring up, and in this chapter he looked as if he was going to stop Kizaru, but he didn't. I'm still hoping for him to go ape shit and put his all into one last big ass attack and allow everyone, bar him, to escape.
And the people who are whining because they want the SH crew back… shut up. We'll get plenty of the SH crew throughout the whole of the New World. It's good to have a change for once, and this arc has been the most tense of any so far.
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@Don:
@xai and robby:
i mean that the marines should normally have special marines which do the job of executing.
Honestly, the thought did occur to me when I first read about Mr. 3's actions. But I said to myself "Mere technicality. Suspension of disbelief."
Besides, it's not necessary that the Marines would need specially qualified people to behead a shackled person. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have done that.
and sengoku should know these guys…
I wouldn't expect the Marine Force's top dog to know the names of some low rank nobodies.
i don
t think that when a executioner can
t do his job just two random marines could come and do that job…normally the marines should have replacements which sengoku should know..Like I said before, there probably is not a Marine Executioner post in the Marine Force. The executioners are probably just lower ranked random marines. I am not sure whether there would be a special execution re-inforcement squad hiding behind the curtains in case the two up on the scaffold get taken out. The VAs or teh Admirals would have just ordered any nearby scrub to go up to the platform and replace the downed executioners.
sengoku is not a normal person..he
s a clever and smart person who should have in such cases people who he trusts in. HE STAND RIGHT NEXT TO THEM, so he should have noticed that it wasn
t a familiar executioner face…Granted that Sengoku is a master strategist, but even then he would not have thought about checking IDs of anyone in a uniform. Atleast, not unless someone was behaving suspiciously. As far as recognising faces go, they were wearing hats and Mr. 3 had disguised himself.
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Just read it over at mangastream. For those of you who havn't read a translated version. http://www.mangastream.com/read/one_piece/571-31/2
Very excitied that Ace is free! Now I feel like the story can really advance, and want to see how Ace handles an admiral. Please someone just give kizaru one good hit! I don't understand why it seems WhiteBeards hit last chapter appeared to have no affect on him.
Now how long is Luffy going to last? Is he going to pass out during all of this or fight with glory like ace?
Very unexpected that Mr3 would be up there, and to Luffy now he is truely fodder once he learns how to burst out his aura.
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Now Ace, is your once-in-life-time change to prove you are something else that whiny bastardchild. Come on, use dat fruit. Create fucking sun and burn everything down. Oh wait, do not vahingossa your nakama kay? Show that your fire is liek fire in any other shounen mangas. Semi-good chapter, dun know about that Sengokus fruit doh it was greatly shown. Actually awesomeway shown.
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@Xai:
Honestly, the thought did occur to me when I first read about Mr. 3's actions. But I said to myself "Mere technicality. Suspension of disbelief."
Besides, it's not necessary that the Marines would need specially qualified people to behead a shackled person. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have done that.
I wouldn't expect the Marine Force's top dog to know the names of some low rank nobodies.
Like I said before, there probably is not a Marine Executioner post in the Marine Force. The executioners are probably just lower ranked random marines. I am not sure whether there would be a special execution re-inforcement squad hiding behind the curtains in case the two up on the scaffold get taken out. The VAs or teh Admirals would have just ordered any nearby scrub to go up to the platform and replace the downed executioners.
Granted that Sengoku is a master strategist, but even then he would not have thought about checking IDs of anyone in a uniform. Atleast, not unless someone was behaving suspiciously. As far as recognising faces go, they were wearing hats and Mr. 3 had disguised himself.
yeah it
s all a matter of how we believe the marine organize their executioners..but most likely you
re right or else it would be a mistake by oda to let sengoku oversee something like that…
but everyone who take a step on THAT scaffold should at least be checked by sengkoku in my eyes...but again you have to be right..he most likely ordered two random marines to the scaffold and in that moment mr.3 took his chance to take the position in that chaos..iam actually okay with that, cause it was a nice twist that mr.3 was on the scaffold and it isn`t THAT important..just wanted to point it out that this is a little weird for me...
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Just noticed that Sengoku's punch was able to bypass the rubber defense even in balloon mode. You know he can handle probably any fruit he wants.
And now we are one big step closer to the straw hats reuniting.
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I haven'T read the topic, but Sengoku can't have the giant fruit, can he? The antagonist from Round the Land had that if I remember correctly, and Oda has to say he won't be using a fruit for the anime and stuf to use them…
Anyway love the chapter. I'm happy to see that Ace wasn't executed, but I'm not surprised.
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My guess for Sengokus DF would be an ancient zoan type. Look at the pics, he's clearly some sorta animal. Most likely ape of some kind, since he has tail and all. My first guess was gorilla, but gorillas dont have such a long tail.
A tail? Where? :wassat:
Besides, if he were some sort of zoan, wouldn't his nickname reflect what kind of animal he was? Why wuld he be called "the Budhha"?
Btw, I see a lot of people saying "Golden Afo, golden afro". How do you know it's golden?
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http://www.mangastream.com/read/one_piece/571-31/12
Does anyone else see something weird with the air Luffy's exhaling here?
Also that tail is more likely part of his clothing.
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HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Awesome to see all the Buggy fans finally being pulled to a stop! Buggy didn't know ANYTHING about Mr. 3 being there!
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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@Don:
yeah it`s all a matter of how we believe the marine organize their executioners..
They should be specially trained ones, I mean they have a special uniform aswell (the other marines don't have those bonnets) so it's a bit much to expect that mr.3 managed to sneak back there and got lucky enough to be hand-picked to go on the scaffold. If I am to believe he pulled this off, I assume he went into the "executioner changing room" and knocked out the real one, put on his clothes and replaced him..
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http://www.mangastream.com/read/one_piece/571-31/12
Does anyone else see something weird with the air Luffy's exhaling here?
Also that tail is more likely part of his clothing.
That air would be blood.
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Still dont get why ppl say Ace is a whinner…
Because since Impel Down he keep complaining "Kill me I suck!" "I hate my father!" "I don't believe in luffy!" "My friends are stupid for coming here!" "I'd rather die!" etc.
People say Ace is a whine rbecause… he's been whining for the last 40 chapters now.
Come on, use dat fruit. Create fucking sun and burn everything down.
And kill every one of his friends while he's at it? NOBODY can freely use the big moves in this scenario, because there's too many people on both sides in the way.
@Xai:
Btw, I see a lot of people saying "Golden Afo, golden afro". How do you know it's golden?
It's assumed because the statue he's based off of is gold, and the rendering is indicating a shiny texture, different from his normal black hair.
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Cool chap. I'm just thinking what Sengoku's special abilities could be.
SMH @ Garp. Ended up bitching out cuz it was family. At least it wasn't worse than that and he took a punch.
I figure Ace will do his usual temporarily save the day shit he did at Alabasta until he gets pwned by BB again.
I actually think BB showing up at the war now will keep the WB pirates at the war kinda showing none of them learned from Ace's mistake.
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That air would be blood.
Nono, I meant the second last panel from the left. I'd say it kinda looks like fire?… but that's kinda preposterous huh?
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Nono, I meant the second last panel from the left. I'd say it kinda looks like fire?… but that's kinda preposterous huh?
I would hazard a guess that it's just the high-pressure air that was stored in his bones/body escaping.
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Nono, I meant the second last panel from the left. I'd say it kinda looks like fire?… but that's kinda preposterous huh?
That's Sengoku's punch forcing out the air from Gigant Baloon.
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Nono, I meant the second last panel from the left. I'd say it kinda looks like fire?… but that's kinda preposterous huh?
Ah yeah..it's just air being punched out with huge power. Kind of looks like fire yeah :P
Also, might just be me, but the shadowy drawn Sengoku in that page looks like Crocodile xD
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@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
Cool chap. I'm just thinking what Sengoku's special abilities could be.
SMH @ Garp. Ended up bitching out cuz it was family. At least it wasn't worse than that and he took a punch.
I figure Ace will do his usual temporarily save the day shit he did at Alabasta until he gets pwned by BB again.
I actually think BB showing up at the war now will keep the WB pirates at the war kinda showing none of them learned from Ace's mistake.
Yeah BB will come own Ace again, Ace will be recaptured and the war has a restart. If BB comes than he will take out WB… This will be a good motivation for Ace.
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YOUr BB WILL NOT COME ALREADY. just give up the whole blackbeard master plan. remember he almost died from
magellan what make you think he could take one the Marine admirals and the WB pirates right nowalso very emotional luffy Garp faceoff. and Mr 3 comes through with the wax
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Lol @ "Blackbeard coming" since 22 chapters
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I would hazard a guess that it's just the high-pressure air that was stored in his bones/body escaping.
@Xai:
That's Sengoku's punch forcing out the air from Gigant Baloon.
Ah yeah..it's just air being punched out with huge power. Kind of looks like fire yeah :P
Also, might just be me, but the shadowy drawn Sengoku in that page looks like Crocodile xD
Highly pressurized air would make more sense XD. Thanks guys.
On a seperate note, I'm on the fence with BB showing up. On one hand, it would create more awesome chaos. On the other, almost everyone would have called it, and as such there would be a lot of expectation he would have to live up to.
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@RPG:
YOUr BB WILL NOT COME ALREADY. just give up the whole blackbeard master plan. remember he almost died from
magellan what make you think he could take one the Marine admirals and the WB pirates right nowalso very emotional luffy Garp faceoff. and Mr 3 comes through with the wax
Funny… BB got owned by Magellan but owned Ace who is described by some to go toe on toe with admirals
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@robbybedfart:
Because since Impel Down he keep complaining "Kill me I suck!" "I hate my father!" "I don't believe in luffy!" "My friends are stupid for coming here!" "I'd rather die!" etc.
People say Ace is a whine rbecause… he's been whining for the last 40 chapters now.
And kill every one of his friends while he's at it? NOBODY can freely use the big moves in this scenario, because there's too many people on both sides in the way.
It's assumed because the statue he's based off of is gold, and the rendering is indicating a shiny texture, different from his normal black hair.
You sure read what you wanna read. Anyway of that, not so good chapter anymore. After second read of chapter… but, awesome faces of VA is always fun.
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On a seperate note, I'm on the fence with BB showing up. On one hand, it would create more awesome chaos. On the other, almost everyone would have called it, and as such there would be a lot of expectation he would have to live up to.
Meh This arc's already in danger of a character overload, throwing in BB would be overkill in my opinion. Besides, it seems like the story is winding down, or at least coming to conclusion.
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Meh This arc's already in danger of a character overload, throwing in BB would be overkill in my opinion. Besides, it seems like the story is winding down, or at least coming to conclusion.
He said he was going to shock the world so whether or not he shows up, he should still be doing something epic before this arc is over.
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Excellent Chapter….freaking Epic Win!!!
Props and MVP goes to Mr. 3.....
(didn't see that one coming)wait
maybe.....(sengoku, will push the "STFU NOOB" BUTTON)and have a trump card
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Funny… BB got owned by Magellan but owned Ace who is described by some to go toe on toe with admirals
It's because of the way his fruit works. Magellan's fruit is particularly nasty and it easily makes him Admiral level. Teach can only negate a fruit's power by making contact with the person, He can't nullify its existence after it's created. If that was the case, Teach would be the most broken character in the series. Period. That said, the poison that Magellan already produced is still there, and Teach would have to absorb that. Teach takes the full force of any damage, unlike most Logia, so taking in that much poison would be fatal to anyone.
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About BB I would actually prefer him not to show up at the war, but finding out after the war he did something big while the war was going on. Like blowing the Holy Land and part of the red line away with an ancient weapon or some shit like that.
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BB will come and kill WB. And his new crew member, the one they freed from ID, will take Mihawk out.
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Magellan has no doubt joined up with BB too, I mean his career as a warden is over anyway because of the massive jailbreak that happened on his watch.
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How did Mr. 3 end up in that costume without anyone noticing him?
Oh and Ace is still wearing sandals instead of boots. He should really get those back.
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Poor Mr.3, getting his ass melted by the guy he saved…
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How did Mr. 3 end up in that costume without anyone noticing him?
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/566/06/
there you have the answer… and if you see the haki bomb page from Luffy, you will notice that the right one, really looks similar too him^^
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i´am lovin it! Oda is the Best... in just 2-3 panels he makes Mr. 3 in to an man of honor...
Chapter 8,9 / 10
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i really want to know what sengoku's ability is so weird…. yet cool
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How did Mr. 3 end up in that costume without anyone noticing him?
Because everyone was too busy noticing Whitebeard and all the other huge powers in the war.
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Awesome chapter. But now it seems that the real fight is just beggining. Granted the pirates just had a massive morale boost and Ace is extremly valuable due to the fact that he is the natural enemy of Aokiji and that he will be able unfreeze Joze but that still leaves them all in a horrible position. Marco is injured heavily and his powers are negated, Whitebeard is on the verge of death,they don't have a ship if memory serves me right,they are surrounded by a metal wall and of course the Shichibukai and Pacifistas.
If something massive doesn't happen,even more massive then Whitebeard destroying the island I don't see them surviving. As of now I see three possible ways they can make it
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Either Shanks or Blackbeard and his surprise join the battle
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Dragon comes
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Or Kuma double crosses the goverment and turns himself and all Pacifistas against them
Of course One Piee always manages to surprise us in unexpected ways so I can't wait to see what happens :)
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