His next adventure is to be that of a 15 or 16 year old. Oda thinks outside the box.
"Luffy's Last Adventure As A 17 Year-Old"
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^ Holy shit! Bonney! Maybe she's going to de-age Luffy!
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I've got a theory:
[hide]Remember around-ish the end of Thriller Bark, there was an interview with Oda saying he wanted to do a story where Zoro leaves the crew and chops off one of Luffy's arms on the way out?
I'm thinking Oda changed his mind about Zoro leaving the crew but is gonna have someone like Akainu take his arm.[/hide]
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I've got a theory:
[hide]Remember around-ish the end of Thriller Bark, there was an interview with Oda saying he wanted to do a story where Zoro leaves the crew and chops off one of Luffy's arms on the way out?
I'm thinking Oda changed his mind about Zoro leaving the crew but is gonna have someone like Akainu take his arm.[/hide]
Please show me the interview where Oda stated the exact same thing you just wrote. Please.
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I think that was a joke.
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Please show me the interview where Oda stated the exact same thing you just wrote. Please.
The internet is making liar out of me :(
I could of swore someone mentioned it around the time Duval actually showed up
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The internet is making liar out of me :(
I could of swore someone mentioned it around the time Duval actually showed up
That someone lied just so you could look like a dumbass in the future.
I mean really think about it look at how vague Oda has been in the interview that started this thread. You think he'd have one giving specific facts as to what will happen in the manga?
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@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
That someone lied just so you could look like a dumbass in the future.
I mean really think about it look at how vague Oda has been in the interview that started this thread. You think he'd have one giving specific facts as to what will happen in the manga?
Hey hey, it's Christmas, let's not kick someone while they're down. :ninja:
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@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
That someone lied just so you could look like a dumbass in the future.
I mean really think about it look at how vague Oda has been in the interview that started this thread. You think he'd have one giving specific facts as to what will happen in the manga?
If this was true, then it'd be Oda making a joke ("I wanted to make a story of [something silly]"), not him giving specific facts.
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If this was true, then it'd be Oda making a joke ("I wanted to make a story of [something silly]"), not him giving specific facts.
True but then the word "dumbass" wouldn't be able to justify anyone taking it seriously.
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Wouldn't it be funny if Oda meant all along that Luffy becomes a man by marrying Hancock?
It would be just like him. A sneaky twist in the total opposite direction of what people were expecting.
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Since when has becoming a man ever been associated with marriage?
When did Oda say Luffy would be becoming a man? I thought he said this would be his last adventure as a 17 year old. Look at the title.
I'd more likely expect the unexpected event where Oda breaks out of his habit of not killing characters and has Luffy murder Ace's murderer.
Oda:
[previous text omitted] And as far as something that will hold true for both the comic and the anime, this will be Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year-old. So this [movie] is something I want you to burn into your memories.Interviewer- Whaaat!? You can't leave me with just that..!
Oda: Nope, I can't say anything more than that now.
Now the argument for turning 18 meaning you're a man now is definitely valid but how does marriage factor in to this?
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In some cultures it probably is, but that still seems really far fetched. Especially since marriage doesn't change your age.
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@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
Since when has becoming a man ever been associated with marriage?
When did Oda say Luffy would be becoming a man? I thought he said this would be his last adventure as a 17 year old.
I'd more likely expect the unexpected event where Oda breaks out of his habit of not killing characters and has Luffy murder Ace's murderer.
Doesn't turning 18 make you a man? And marriage automatically becomes associated with the thing done after marriage. At any rate, marriage isn't something associated with children or juveniles. I'm just throwing ideas around. This kind of twist would be totally like him.
And marriage has a higher chance of occurring than what you're suggesting.
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Becoming a man is a really abstract thing. It's not like wham you're 18 and now you're a man, unless you're talking about a purely legal perspective.
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I've got a theory:
[hide]Remember around-ish the end of Thriller Bark, there was an interview with Oda saying he wanted to do a story where Zoro leaves the crew and chops off one of Luffy's arms on the way out?
I'm thinking Oda changed his mind about Zoro leaving the crew but is gonna have someone like Akainu take his arm.[/hide]
Right after Duval's identity beneath the mask was revealed, THEN someone made up the story that while Oda was hanging out with one of the animators that he revealed not only the Duval thing, but the Zoro thing. It was outrageous, impossible and stupid, and it was deleted very qucikly after it was posted.
But COMBINED with the accurate Duval reveal, and claims that it was coming from the same person in PM, it had more weight and people believed it for a time.
The sheer absurdity of it amused me and I thought it was hilarious, so I know that I for one, kept tossing it around for months after as a joke to see who else it would snag.
It gained new life again when Kuma punied Zoro away as a cliffhanger and people then started oing "What if by "Luffy losing his right arm, Oda meant his second in command?" This of course, completley neglecting the original "it was something he said with a drinking buddy" part of the myth.
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Becoming a man is a really abstract thing. It's not like wham you're 18 and now you're a man, unless you're talking about a purely legal perspective.
In terms of cultural perspective, as in Oda's, 20 would be the age when one "legally" becomes a man.
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In terms of cultural perspective, as in Oda's, 20 would be the age when one "legally" becomes a man.
Really? For some reason I though it was earlier in Japan.
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I've got a theory:
[hide]It could be bunnies![/hide]
Yes, I edited it, and if anyone get's that, I will give you a cookie.
But on a serious note, I doubt if there is a time jump, that it would be longer than a couple years. And by couple, I do mean 2. Not 2-4, not 3 months, but a Couple years.
That might either give Luffy enough time to heal from all the shit he's been doing to himself (why you shouldn't take drugs… Bad Luffy), or at least for whatever is going to happen in the next couple of chapters, i.e. WG possibly disolving or Whitebeard dieing to blow over.
It would also be a good time for the other chr's to buff up :D
Still hoping for a Franky upgrade.
Couple of RPG's from his rear would be nice. -
I believe the sons of samurai became men at the age of fifteen.
But Dragon's…not a samurai, right? O.o
And then, the speculation began...
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anyone just feel that Luffy's birthday will have passed by the time he awakens or there will be an arc centered around him turning 18? it seems like Oda doing the 'a crewmember will leave' thing again. i doubt the characters will age more than a year, and a dbz or shippuden-esque timeskip seems even less likely..
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@Ao:
anyone just feel that Luffy's birthday will have passed by the time he awakens or there will be an arc centered around him turning 18? it seems like Oda doing the 'a crewmember will leave' thing again. i doubt the characters will age more than a year, and a dbz or shippuden-esque timeskip seems even less likely..
Well Shippuuden was two years so I wouldn't rule out one that long.
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And, to be fair, Dragonball started with Goku as 12, skipped 3 years before Goku fought Tien and then skipped 3 more years before he reappears older to fight Piccolo Jr and marry Chichi. So even if it's a timeskip as long as one of Dragonball's, that would only take Luffy to 20. If that timeskip is seen as an extreme one, and still only takes Luffy to 20, I don't think we have much to worry about.
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a timeskip is perfect for Moria, he could easily lose some weight.
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And, to be fair, Dragonball started with Goku as 12, skipped 3 years before Goku fought Tien and then skipped 3 more years before he reappears older to fight Piccolo Jr and marry Chichi. So even if it's a timeskip as long as one of Dragonball's, that would only take Luffy to 20. If that timeskip is seen as an extreme one, and still only takes Luffy to 20, I don't think we have much to worry about.
Exactly, it's not like Luffy is 12 years old or anything. The difference between a 17 year old and 20 year old isn't all much that really.
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a timeskip is perfect for Moria, he could easily lose some weight.
If there is a time skip I would love to see Moria back in shape like Chapter 0.
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If there is a time skip I would love to see Moria back in shape like Chapter 0.
Well, we only really saw his head, and nowadays a huge-ass stitching where his chin used to be. For all we know, Moria always could have had a fat body and skinny arms, legs, and neck.
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I can see Hancock moving the residents of her island to a new safer island in the New World. Maybe teaming up with Iva. Who knows !
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@S.C.:
Well, we only really saw his head, and nowadays a huge-ass stitching where his chin used to be. For all we know, Moria always could have had a fat body and skinny arms, legs, and neck.
I admit I'm making assumptions, actually it's more like wishful thinking, I hope Moria was a bad-ass!
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I admit I'm making assumptions, actually it's more like wishful thinking, I hope Moria was a bad-ass!
Well, you can still be fat and be a badass. Like Sammo Hung, or Bob from Tekken 6.
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@S.C.:
Well, you can still be fat and be a badass. Like Sammo Hung, or Bob from Tekken 6.
I hope Moria looked like/was a badass.*
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I can see Hancock moving the residents of her island to a new safer island in the New World. Maybe teaming up with Iva. Who knows !
You know, that would actually work. Kamabakka kingdom would be the one place in the world where guys wouldn't be constantly trying to get into their ski… er, loincloths.
So, I had an idea, the only one I can think of that hasn't been suggested yet.
What if there was a timeskip, BUT... we traveled back in time, first? And I'm not talking for some short side-story, like Bleach's Turn Back the Pendulum Arc or Naruto's Kakashi Gaiden. I'm talking about about 2-4 years of the past?
Let's think about this. Roger and his legacy have only been referred to in bits and pieces. What really happened back then? Chapter 0 gave us a glimpse into the past, but only as it related to Golden Leo Shiki and (loosely) to Roger. What really happened with Roger's crew back then? Perhaps Oda is completely taking Luffy out of the picture for a period of time to show us another story; the story of the Jolly Roger Pirates.
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@Fire Fist:
You know, that would actually work. Kamabakka kingdom would be the one place in the world where guys wouldn't be constantly trying to get into their ski… er, loincloths.
So, I had an idea, the only one I can think of that hasn't been suggested yet.
What if there was a timeskip, BUT... we traveled back in time, first? And I'm not talking for some short side-story, like Bleach's Turn Back the Pendulum Arc or Naruto's Kakashi Gaiden. I'm talking about about 2-4 years of the past?
Let's think about this. Roger and his legacy have only been referred to in bits and pieces. What really happened back then? Chapter 0 gave us a glimpse into the past, but only as it related to Golden Leo Shiki and (loosely) to Roger. What really happened with Roger's crew back then? Perhaps Oda is completely taking Luffy out of the picture for a period of time to show us another story; the story of the Jolly Roger Pirates.
I like this alot. I've always wanted more backstory on Roger & co., even just an extra volume when the series is over.
And since it's out that Luffy has King's Haki (or what you call it), people can start to piece together that he's a potential candidate for Pirate King who actually has a chance and that he's like Roger. We've seen this before (though without the Haki factor) with Smoker, Kureha, Crocus, etc. Once people start putting this together, some will reflect on Roger (Buggy maybe?), thus leading into a backstory. That works out nicely. -
… long time i havent been here. ^^
Sorry i didnt read a the whole thread ....
But the outlook of a timeskip really is intriguing. We all know that Oda is greatly influenced by Toriyama and Dragonball. One of its specialities were timeskips that really changed a lot. Main protagonists becoming adults, having children and even grandchildren.
So I´m looking forward to a more mature Luffy and a vastly changed world and balance of power. I jsut cant imagine how Oda would handle some Luffy jr. :blink: but i guess its not so random that Hancock just fell for Luffy before some timeskip .... :wub:
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@Fire Fist:
You know, that would actually work. Kamabakka kingdom would be the one place in the world where guys wouldn't be constantly trying to get into their ski… er, loincloths.
So, I had an idea, the only one I can think of that hasn't been suggested yet.
What if there was a timeskip, BUT... we traveled back in time, first? And I'm not talking for some short side-story, like Bleach's Turn Back the Pendulum Arc or Naruto's Kakashi Gaiden. I'm talking about about 2-4 years of the past?
Let's think about this. Roger and his legacy have only been referred to in bits and pieces. What really happened back then? Chapter 0 gave us a glimpse into the past, but only as it related to Golden Leo Shiki and (loosely) to Roger. What really happened with Roger's crew back then? Perhaps Oda is completely taking Luffy out of the picture for a period of time to show us another story; the story of the Jolly Roger Pirates.
That´s a great idea. I would love to see that. Maybe twenty chapters of that story would be fantastic.
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If Oda haven't said anything else about all of the strawhat, I will bet pretty much all of my money on that it WON'T be a timeskip longer than a couple of weeks or months. Luffy will age, no one else.
I bet, and hope, someone else before me had the same theory, that Ivankov hormones will age Luffy ten year instead for taking ten years from his overall lenght of his life in regular sense. All of the story points to it. First, it wouldn't make sense to jump the story now, when we have some of the biggest story changes, it would be a shame to skip all of these. Why would Ivankov just drop "you will lose ten years of your life" if we wouldn't see it? He could just have said that Luffy will die earlier than he would otherwise. It would fit right in there to show how hard Luffy is fighting for his dream, not making it to brutal with scars and so on, but instead showing a in some way more depressing way of destroying your life for your dream, but still making it child appealing but deeply moving, just like Oda likes to do.
Remember that Inazuma wasn't cured by the hormones? A smart way by Oda to actually not show us what they do. Sure, Luffy do not need to become an adult, the people that matters already respects him (WB, Shanks, in some senses the admirals and so on), but it would be awsome. And if Luffy would conquer Grand Line as an 17year, and wouldn't need to sacriface anything, wouldn't that take away a bit of Gold Rogers badassness?All of the situations and jokes would actually pretty much write themselves if Luffy would look (be) like 20 years old. We all know that he will get an insane bounty after this war. But, it would be pretty boring if he entered New World and people would be scared to death by him. What if he looked like his old self on the bounty but is more like 27 for real?
There is a shit loads of situations that would be incredible awsome if he would become older so sudden. And wtf, of course Luffy will not change, even if his apperence till change a bit.
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If Oda haven't said anything else about all of the strawhat, I will bet pretty much all of my money on that it WON'T be a timeskip longer than a couple of weeks or months. Luffy will age, no one else.
I bet, and hope, someone else before me had the same theory, that Ivankov hormones will age Luffy ten year instead for taking ten years from his overall lenght of his life in regular sense. All of the story points to it. First, it wouldn't make sense to jump the story now, when we have some of the biggest story changes, it would be a shame to skip all of these. Why would Ivankov just drop "you will lose ten years of your life" if we wouldn't see it? He could just have said that Luffy will die earlier than he would otherwise. It would fit right in there to show how hard Luffy is fighting for his dream, not making it to brutal with scars and so on, but instead showing a in some way more depressing way of destroying your life for your dream, but still making it child appealing but deeply moving, just like Oda likes to do.
Remember that Inazuma wasn't cured by the hormones? A smart way by Oda to actually not show us what they do. Sure, Luffy do not need to become an adult, the people that matters already respects him (WB, Shanks, in some senses the admirals and so on), but it would be awsome. And if Luffy would conquer Grand Line as an 17year, and wouldn't need to sacriface anything, wouldn't that take away a bit of Gold Rogers badassness?All of the situations and jokes would actually pretty much write themselves if Luffy would look (be) like 20 years old. We all know that he will get an insane bounty after this war. But, it would be pretty boring if he entered New World and people would be scared to death by him. What if he looked like his old self on the bounty but is more like 27 for real?
There is a shit loads of situations that would be incredible awsome if he would become older so sudden. And wtf, of course Luffy will not change, even if his apperence till change a bit.
I said it. Just watch it happen. ;)I highly doubt Oda is going to age Luffy 10 years. I think all of the stuff about Luffy dying sooner and the adverse effects on his body from hormones are just to give a balance to the power, so we can see that there is a price to pay, and Ivankov just can't willy nilly give hormones to everyone to make them pwn. I know that we have characters like Franky/Robin/Brooke that are much older than the other SH's, but I personally think it would be weird to have a 27 year old Luffy for the duration of the series. Not to mention, isn't Luffy getting like, 20 years off his life because he used the hormones twice? So if your theory were to hold true, would Luffy not be 37 instead of 27? I know that most of the fans of One Piece are probably 20-30 years old in age, but Oda has said he wants it to be a show for kids, I don't think he's going to make the main character an almost 40 year old man.
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I want someone to explain to me how aging 10 to 20 years will make him stronger?
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I want someone to explain to me how aging 10 to 20 years will make him stronger?
It wouldn't.
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then why does everyone think it will
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then why does everyone think it will
I don't think it would. Who thinks that by purely being aged, no training or anything, would make Luffy stronger? Maybe if it was like 5 years, so his body would grow a bit or something, since people are usually at their physical peak in there early-mid 20's, at least that's my perception of things.
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it wouldn't indeed, if we compare it to Naruto (and yes, I would normally not do so but I have to compare it to something) then we see that after 2 years naruto is still a lame ninja that only knows 2 techniques and doesn't even control them well and the story just went to what it is now which is qute bad. . .
Now, I know that is Kishi and Oda could pull t off but I just don't see a timeskip in this manga. In DB there just weren't any villains voor xx period of time and in Naruto it was somewhat the same but Luffy will keep on sailing. How would one fit in a timeskip in One Piece? I honestly haven't a clue -
it wouldn't indeed, if we compare it to Naruto (and yes, I would normally not do so but I have to compare it to something) then we see that after 2 years naruto is still a lame ninja that only knows 2 techniques and doesn't even control them well and the story just went to what it is now which is qute bad. . .
Now, I know that is Kishi and Oda could pull t off but I just don't see a timeskip in this manga. In DB there just weren't any villains voor xx period of time and in Naruto it was somewhat the same but Luffy will keep on sailing. How would one fit in a timeskip in One Piece? I honestly haven't a clueYou make it a very short time-skip.
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that what most of this thread is he will age 10 years and then he will be strong enough for the new world. my theory is if there is a timeskip it will be no more then 1 year which will setup for a great story line in FI especially if whitebeard dies and marine HQ is destroyed which will leave FI vulnerable to the slave traders and then luffy will finally put a complete end to it
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perhaps like 2 months in which the crew reunites at shabondy but what good would that do?
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that what most of this thread is he will age 10 years and then he will be strong enough for the new world. my theory is if there is a timeskip it will be no more then 1 year which will setup for a great story line in FI especially if whitebeard dies and marine HQ is destroyed which will leave FI vulnerable to the slave traders and then luffy will finally put a complete end to it
You say most of this thread is about Luffy aging 10 years but I've only seen you and 1 other post say anything like that. I'm pretty sure most people feel the same as you, that if there's a timeskip it will be less than a year, plenty of people including me have already posted the same thing.
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**I'm not even doubting a 3 year time skip to be honest, though one year sounds the most plausible.
I do seriously doubt Oda is going to age Luffy that much though.** 10 years seems like a hell of a lot.
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the rapid aging theory starts on page 2 and goes on from there
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Luffy aging 10 years would not make him automaticly stronger, and that is just why it's awsome. A timeskip that would make Luffy stronger would be so lame in so frakking many ways it's almost scary. The only timeskip we will see, if we even do, will be if Luffy lies in a coma.
Trust my holy macarony word.
(sure, I agree with all saying that aging Luffy ten years would be a little bit too much, a few years would be better, but still, it wouldn't fit the story in the same way).pwnnoobi: The problem with the whole "it will cost your life" thing is that it is just words. This is the story about how Luffy is trying to find One Piece. And he will find it, of course he will. At this point we do not have any visable traces of how hard he fights, which at least in my opinion i a bit sad. Sure, we have the whole "lose your crew" theme going on, but that isn't anything that seem to have a longer impact on the story. It would be nice to actually see how Luffy have changed, and with that we would think about it every single time we would see Luffy, and that is pretty much all the time - shit, this is a man that litterary gives away ten years of his life for his dream.
What if he loses ten, twenty or fifthy years of his life? If he finds One Piece as a 17year old boy, none of it actually matters, not for Luffy, not like Oda have created him for 12 years now, so why would it change somewhere along the New world? Luffy lives for the dreams and just the fun, he don't cares if he dies, but we readers do. And the story will most likely end somewhere not long after he has found OP (this is just what I believe, but most readers will probably agree).
Wouldn't it be awsome to see Luffy age, but still giving that boyish smile, ready to give his life for the dream? Zoro has his gigantic scar, why don't show how hard Luffy fight?Sure, Luffy has used the hormones more than one time now, but the only time Ivankov said it would take away years of his life was when they cured the poison (or am I wrong?), so all of those he is using now don't count in the same way. They will just give him the worst hangover EVER!
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Ten years is to much; 27? That may have been Shank's age when he met Luffy, but…you have to take other characters into account. Franky would be 44, and Robin would be 38. That just seems like too old. A year or just Luffy turning eighteen may not change alot strength-wise or appearance-wise, but he might gain some wisdom (then again, this is Luffy).