"I think we are now on the same wavelength"
lol Or we will be when I get a couple of hours of extra sleep 8D
"I think we are now on the same wavelength"
lol Or we will be when I get a couple of hours of extra sleep 8D
A better quality of moon.
Thank you guys, I'm in school and bored but the last two pages were the funniest posts I've read in days. I kinda feel like crying after reading madara wants to turn the moon into a great big sharingan, WHY DIDN'T ITACHI KILL SASUKE AND MADARA, HE KILLED HIS LOVER AND PARENTS!!!!!
My question is, what's Madara gonna do during the daytime? I'm pretty sure in the Naruto world the moon doesn't stay in the sky all the time. So when the moon goes down and the sun rises… then what?
This plan is horrible.
So is Madara Obito again? His eye technique is dangerously similar (the same) as Kakashi's, except he can control where he sends stuff and the AOE of his target.
Did Madara just jump into his half broken body?
okayyyyy have read the chapter now..and what is left to say?
WTF is going on there..
madara is a insane motherfucking-allknowing-lsd non-stop taking crazy enel who wants to have control like a god..
is in the moon the body of Jubi?…wtf is that
i knew madara would talk crazy shit..but this is madness and over the top..
the WAR! sounds good at least but don`t we have something similiar in another manga-series right now?:happy:
So is Madara Obito again? His eye technique is dangerously similar (the same) as Kakashi's, except he can control where he sends stuff and the AOE of his target.
Did Madara just jump into his half broken body?
I think different uchiha have different eye techs, sasuke/itachi tsukiyomi and susano and ameterasu. kakashi/madara space time dimention techs. I'm also guessing other uchiha can do other magic tricks too:ninja:
Shouldn't Kakashi and Madara's be completely different though? Instead of Madara's being a variation of Kakashi's much like Sasuke's is a variation of Itachi's? Catch my drift?
Also, what the hell? I liked him better as Tobi, he's ridiculous.
How the hell will he become the host of the jubi, who's body is the moon, and then project a Sharingan on the moon which will no longer be there since it will join with Madara as its host?????
Candlejack help m..
an interesting question. He will create a new one. Full of chakra and f00jutsu! Then the world will become one.
Madara is a vegeta fanboy who decided that 10 tails is cooler!
So I take that I'm the only one that actually find that development entertaining? Sure, it's a totally insane plan worthy of Bond Movie villain but hey, it's entertaining. Also Madara's easy going "Allright, consider that a declaration of war. It begins now!" struck me as cool somehow.^^
Aha the ninja world against madara and akatsuki? Mass means nothing?
Shouldn't Kakashi and Madara's be completely different though? Instead of Madara's being a variation of Kakashi's much like Sasuke's is a variation of Itachi's? Catch my drift?
Also, what the hell? I liked him better as Tobi, he's ridiculous.
How the hell will he become the host of the jubi, who's body is the moon, and then project a Sharingan on the moon which will no longer be there since it will join with Madara as its host?????Candlejack help m..
Damn we lost a good man, damn you madara, :blink: I KNOW!!! MADARA is infected with kishin's insanitly.
Pretty bad chapter, the plot for Naruto is heading in a bad direction. The only highlight was the colourspread, thought it was pretty cool especially because it had Zabuza and Haku.
So I take that I'm the only one that actually find that development entertaining? Sure, it's a totally insane plan worthy of Bond Movie villain but hey, it's entertaining. Also Madara's easy going "Allright, consider that a declaration of war. It begins now!" struck me as cool somehow.^^
no it is at least a development which is so mad that it could be entertaining :)
i dont know i don
t get half of the story like you but having a WAR! is sure a nicce thing which could give us at least a great ending.
the moon-issue..
idk its rly over the top but sure not enough crazy for a manga. iam disappointed with the confusing story but we will sure hear many times again this whole issue so it will be clearer after a while.. and than it
s better than chasing sasuke..just give us a WAR! with akatsuki vs every1 and danzo also still has a word to say :)
So since Madara is declaring war does he have some personal/secret army? I don't want this war to turn out like something in Bleach, please god no!
So since Madara is declaring war does he have some personal/secret army? I don't want this war to turn out like something in Bleach, please god no!
you mean like the tailed beasts and the beast of all beasts?
no.
Well I was talking about like normal shinobi's in the army or something. Anyways these tailed beast will be the new Espada.
he has plant man and a fish with a sword up his sleeve
the council of really evil villains!
It might be a bad scene but still in the past couple of weeks Naruto seemed to at least be going somewhere. Not that this somewhere is any good but it is at least better as going literally nowhere which is exactly what Bleach is doing at the moment respectively where it has been going for the last two years.
I'm not defending Naruto actually. I'm just saying that currently Bleach deserves more bashing for the failure it is.
I agree. I don't get Naruto hating. Problem with Naruto is Kishi is bad at executing the plot and story he introduced. Most of it start off good, we see a lot of potential that can be explore in the story, but somehow those story arc always ended with anti climatic moment. Bleach on the other hand, doesn't even try to came up with originality, plot wise, character wise, and the fighting abilities given to the characters.
I'm not a Naruto fans myself because as I said earlier, Kishi is bad at writing a story (same goes to Kubo). Both series are terribly executed with poor pacing, and poorly developed storyline. The storyline seems like it's been develop randomly without a well construct plan (like Oda does with One Piece).
I still dislike the current story progression in Naruto though. The moon plan, the ten tailed beast, and the ninja war doesn't look convincing enough. I don't know how Kishi is going to execute Ninja War story because even though Naruto world is kinda big with several other Ninja village is in it, Kishi doesn't spend much time developing each of the village and the characters in each village.
For all I know, this war will be like Orochimaru invading Konoha in part one and Pein invasion arc. There will be a lot of hype going on, some characters will be killed, and let's just hope it doesn't have a shitty ending like Pein arc does. Then again, at least Kishi is trying to be creative with his story, and the story is moving somewhere now unlike Kubo that still stuck, giving us Hueco Mundo arc for how long now? Nearly three years?
Well I was talking about like normal shinobi's in the army or something. Anyways these tailed beast will be the new Espada.
well, he did have a lot of cubes in his space-time dimension, but those are only harmful to Sasuke… guess he has to stock up on rocks next...
Kishimoto copies Oda and Kubo with the war thing, because his original war idea (Pein) sucked, SUCKED.
No he has not taken me away, I want a f$%@$# answer, how can Madara both host the Jubi/moon and shine a Sharingan on it while its in his belly.. my brain hurts, I'm so disappointed I'm going back to work. DAMN YOU KISHI, today is my off day.
Well one option is that he sealed the jubis body into the moon. The problem is he said it became the moon. I wonder if it is a translation issue…
What happened before the jubi? There was no moon? It doesn't make sense! Or he has actually the plan to explain that the earth the sun every star or every planet in the naruto universe is a tailed beast.
Edit: i checked cnets translation... The jubis body is really the moon... Rikudou created the moon. Whatever that means... If rikudou on the verge of death is able to create the moon with the empty body of the jubi then i don't see why it would be a problem for madara to create a new moon by hosting the jubi + all the beasts chakras.
I HAVE ONLY READ 2 CHAPTERS IN THE LAST 4 MONTHS OR SO BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY COMING FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF SOMEONE WHO DOESNT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON, I'M HAPPY THAT THERE IS PLOT AGAIN INSTEAD OF RANDOM MISSIONS AND FIGHTING WHILE KISH STRINGS US ALONG WITH INDIVIDUAL MOTIVATIONS FOR CHARACTERS BUT NO MAIN PLOT. Now that we know what is going to happen we can start judging kish early instead of chapter by chapter.
So since this a Naruto thread, I can post whatever I want and get away with it, isn't that right?
Cool.
YOU ALL SUCK.
Madara is crazy. Why doesn't he just suck the entire world into his eye? He wouldn't even need the 10 tails then.
So since this a Naruto thread, I can post whatever I want and get away with it, isn't that right?
Cool.
YOU ALL SUCK.
jaja, dei mudder
the whole world under genjutsu, sounds alot like 1984, big brother.
Well.
-After Enel-the God, we have Pain-the God and Madara-the ultimate God. But Kishi failed to make Pain godlike.
-After Kuma's ability of pushing/reflecting everything and anything, Pain's ability was revealed with the same effect.
-After Kuma's ursus shock destroying Thriller Bark, we have Pain destroying Konoha,with alike power.
-After Akainu's magma, we have Mizukage's lava.
And now the war.
Kishi, don't tell me you are trying to steal ideas from Oda.
I honestly believe that authors meet up and talk to one another like in bakuman but they'll ask each other for "helpful advice" and hence kind of "steal" from one another. Ever notice how alot of kishi's ideas also sound like togashi's ideas. That room that sasuke and karin were sent in was pretty close to the room that knov (this is the name wikipedia gave me cause I couldn't remember his damn name) creates in HxH. That's only because these two are friends apparently ( I read this somewhere once)
So anyway knowing what we know now. Shouldn't Nagato been able to control the Kyuubi with his Rinnegan like the Sharingan can.
dude im right i said that the whole naruto manga is a illusion
So anyway knowing what we know now. Shouldn't Nagato been able to control the Kyuubi with his Rinnegan like the Sharingan can.
Hmm maybe he didn't know about the whole story? He aso has to know how to seal the jubi.
He was in his pain pool and had his own plan to save the world :)
So, if I read right, Madara is going to unleash the tailed beasts upon the world? That could be cool.
Emphasis on "could". Oh well, this has never been more appropriate to this series. Pay attention to the lyrics as much as the mindscrew imagrey.
GoPVj7UwNeM
! I know, I know I 've let you down
I 've been a fool to myself
I thought that I could live for no one else
But now through all the hurt and pain
It's time for me to respect
the ones you love mean more than anything
! So with sadness in my heart
(I) feel the best thing I could do
it's end it all
and leave forever
What's done is done it feel so bad
what once was happy now is sad
I'll never love again
my world is ending
! * I wish thst I could turn back time
cos now the guilt is all mine
can't live without the trust from those you love
I know we can't forget the past
you can't forget love& pride
because of that, it's killing me inside*
! It all returns to nothing,
it all comes tumbling down,
tumbling down,
tumbling down
It all retures to nothing,
I just keep,
letting me down,
letting me down,
letting me down
! In my heart of hearts
I know I could never love again
I've lost everything,
everything that matters to me matters in this world
(Get back to *)
! It all returns to nothing
it just keeps tumbling down
tumbling down
tumbling down
It returns to nothing
I just keep letting me down
letting me down
letting me down
letting me down (Repeat)
@The:
-After Akainu's magma, we have Mizukage's lava.
I think that her powers are more like a corrosive liquid than lava itself.
@The:
Well.
-After Enel-the God, we have Pain-the God and Madara-the ultimate God. But Kishi failed to make Pain godlike.
-After Kuma's ability of pushing/reflecting everything and anything, Pain's ability was revealed with the same effect.
-After Kuma's ursus shock destroying Thriller Bark, we have Pain destroying Konoha,with alike power.
-After Akainu's magma, we have Mizukage's lava.
And now the war.
Kishi, don't tell me you are trying to steal ideas from Oda.
He's stolen from other mangaka so it's no big deal…though seeing Kishi do it literally a couple years after Oda does seem like he's despearate. (let alone him pulling the "WHO SAYZ THE BIJUU ARE FROM 1-9" bit not too long after Kubo)
The best thing is that the Hachibukai is in battle and noone had the need to point it out
@Tokoro:
He's stolen from other mangaka so it's no big deal…though seeing Kishi do it literally a couple years after Oda does seem like he's despearate. (let alone him pulling the "WHO SAYZ THE BIJUU ARE FROM 1-9" bit not too long after Kubo)
To be fair, he set up this whole "the moon was created" thing in a throwaway piece of dialogue back during the Pain arc several months ago and thats when we started joking about Mewten. So, he's probably had the 10 tailed reveal in mind for at least that long. He may have actually had it, to some degree, the akatsuki's master plan all along. I'd always assumed the gathering of the 9 beasts was to make some uber powerful thing, because thats a typical evil villainey sort of thing to do, and that seems to be pretty on the nose.
So, in all fairness to Kishi, this reveal has been waiting in the wings for a while and theres a bunch of little things you can point to that say, sadly, that this is where he was legitimately headed, possibly as far back as the start of part 2 with the kidnapping of Gaara. Its just unfortunate timing that it comes a few weeks after Bleach's silly little twist.
Hey, at least he vaugley foreshadowed it with Pain randomly mentioning the moon being created so we had time to theorize this absurdity. If he only just now announced it, it would be COMPLETELY out of left field, and even more ridiculous than it already is.
@robbybevard:
So, if I read right, Madara is going to unleash the tailed beasts upon the world? That could be cool.
Emphasis on "could". Oh well, this has never been more appropriate to this series. Pay attention to the lyrics as much as the mindscrew imagrey.
GoPVj7UwNeM! I know, I know I 've let you down
I 've been a fool to myself
I thought that I could live for no one else
But now through all the hurt and pain
It's time for me to respect
the ones you love mean more than anything
! So with sadness in my heart
(I) feel the best thing I could do
it's end it all
and leave forever
What's done is done it feel so bad
what once was happy now is sad
I'll never love again
my world is ending
! * I wish thst I could turn back time
cos now the guilt is all mine
can't live without the trust from those you love
I know we can't forget the past
you can't forget love& pride
because of that, it's killing me inside*
! It all returns to nothing,
it all comes tumbling down,
tumbling down,
tumbling down
It all retures to nothing,
I just keep,
letting me down,
letting me down,
letting me down
! In my heart of hearts
I know I could never love again
I've lost everything,
everything that matters to me matters in this world
(Get back to *)
! It all returns to nothing
it just keeps tumbling down
tumbling down
tumbling down
It returns to nothing
I just keep letting me down
letting me down
letting me down
letting me down (Repeat)
the angel thing has 10 wings…
edit: oh wait the playbutton covert something. it could be 12...
terrible, terrible chapter
So what is so good about Soul Eater, because the wiki summary sounds pretty generic. Not faulting it, just genuinely curious.
In a different song cue, I've at least managed to finally figure out how to explain the Naruto/Sasuke related to all the hokages and Tobi/Madara/Danzo/Obito related situation.
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So… Madara wants to use his eyes to collect the tailed beasts to make a super tailed beast with super eyes to make his eyes more super by projecting them on the tailed beast which happens to be the moon.
Wait a minute... Wasn't turning the moon into a giant creature that can hypnotize the earth and make everyone as one for the sake of the hypnotizer the plot of a Sam and Max game? Don't tell me that Madara is actually a colony of sentient bacteria that feeds on happiness.
@robbybevard:
Hey, at least he vaugley foreshadowed it with Pain randomly mentioning the moon being created so we had time to theorize this absurdity. If he only just now announced it, it would be COMPLETELY out of left field, and even more ridiculous than it already is.
No offense but I can't help but feel that people are completely biased by calling that a ridiculous idea. I'm sure that if Oda would have introduced a similar concept in One Piece people would call it a brilliant idea. Heck, in the original Transformers series Unicrons head became a moon of Cybertron and people found it cool. It doesn't strike me as any more ridiculous as what has just been established in Naruto. Yet here it get's dissed and I think for no other reason but because it's Naruto.
Question: - with most of Akatsuki gone, how exactly is Madara going to extract the rest of the beasts? Pain kicked the bucket, and IIRC they needed his own very special jutsu to do the trick. I'll guess Kishi will have to make up yet another plot eye jutsu.
And the rikudo sage must have been a really smart guy:
after defeating a terribly powerful and very, oh so very evil beast - known only to Madara, since no one else noticed a giant juggernaut of destruction - he became a legend and came to be worshipped by all ninjas. Wait, scrap that, only Madara knows about this, the rest think that he's only a fairytale.
Anyway, the now godlike sage became so wise and all-knowing that he decided to publish a manual (as mentioned by AtARU) for this terrible beast, and to make sure that no one would read it he wrote it in emo language. I guess he thought that "since Sharingan guys hate everything, they probably hate reading, too. Some of these guys will be busy hating and eventually killing their best friends, so there's no way they are going to read this. Yep, that should do it."
Nice.
Did Kishi just pull a Kubo plot twist? It seems that although Pain and Madara deciphered the fancy manual together, Nagato didn't know/care about the other's plan.
It became a myth. Other people saw it too, but has time passed by people thought it was fake. Madara already planned if pain died. Which is why he got Sasuke has a backup.
@The:
Well.
-After Enel-the God, we have Pain-the God and Madara-the ultimate God. But Kishi failed to make Pain godlike.
-After Kuma's ability of pushing/reflecting everything and anything, Pain's ability was revealed with the same effect.
-After Kuma's ursus shock destroying Thriller Bark, we have Pain destroying Konoha,with alike power.
-After Akainu's magma, we have Mizukage's lava.
And now the war.
Kishi, don't tell me you are trying to steal ideas from Oda.
LOL You are pretty stupid.
How wasn't Pain @Godlike??? Pain took over villagesand nuked konoha.
People have been predicting the 4th war for a while. He even said it in the interview.
LOL You are pretty stupid.
How wasn't Pain @Godlike??? Pain took over villagesand nuked konoha.
That's really not his point.
Madara's ridiculous plan is like Aizen's plan, no real reason for existance, just a reason for the plot to move on.
No offense but I can't help but feel that people are completely biased by calling that a ridiculous idea. I'm sure that if Oda would have introduced a similar concept in One Piece people would call it a brilliant idea. Heck, in the original Transformers series Unicrons head became a moon of Cybertron and people found it cool. It doesn't strike me as any more ridiculous as what has just been established in Naruto. Yet here it get's dissed and I think for no other reason but because it's Naruto.
And Outlanders had the moon turn out the be a giant cannon, and Beast Wars did the same thing, and it was cool there too. And Star Wars has the infamous "That's not a moon, that's a space station!" And probably in dozens of other places. I have no problem with the moon being a crazy powerful thing. And Kishi even foreshadowed it, and I was even defending it in my post, saying "Hey, at least he foreshadowed it!"
The problem is, its so grand and epic a scheme, something with so much potential to be great (the world versus the tailed beasts) that were it any other series, I'd be salivating at the possibilities of the epic finale coming our way. But, after Naruto's batched super rasengan, Kabutomaru, Hinata's confession, the entirety of the Pain fight, the drag of Sakura/Granny fight, etc. etc… I just don't have faith in Kishimoto to pull it off anywhere near the IMMENSE potential of this idea.
Yes, it DOES get treated unfairly in Naruto. If the series had maintained credible characterization, didn't toss aside all its side characters, kept consistent power/battle levels, the combat was consistently good, maintained consistent internal logic, the cast didn't keep crying "Only GokuNaruto can do it!", lacked in deus ex machinas and didn't repeatedly go down a more sour path, it would get more respect.
Note that MOST of these flaws are also found in Dragonball, and things I'll call that on all day long too, but it kept credible fun characterization the whole way through, the battles, while on a ridiculous scale, remained interesting and consistent, and the one major recurring deus ex machina was the staple maguffin from chapter one of the series, that initially at least, had to be earned from an epic quest. Were Dragonball coming out today, we'd probably be calling foul on there being two androids, then another two androids, then another android, and then Cell with three forms. And we'd bitch about all the time spent on Goten and Trunks goofy and stupid fusion dancing, Gohan losing his fight to Buu, etc. because those are unsatisfying, bad plot twists. But after we'd gotten used to the whole fusion thing we would have probably been down with it when Goku and Vegeta finally fused.
Its not that Naruto gets more crap because its Naruto, its mostly because the characterization that was so solid in part 1 sucks. If the characters were still good, everything else would be just window dressing and the plot could be batshit insane, and it'd be fine.
So yes, I agree with you. "I'm sure that if Oda would have introduced a similar concept in One Piece people would call it a brilliant idea." Particularly since he does in fact, have a guy on the moon. I still have faith that Oda would pull something like that off in spectacular fashion.
Basically, I don't scoff at this revelation. I scoff at Kishimoto attempting it.
Wait a minute… Wasn't turning the moon into a giant creature that can hypnotize the earth and make everyone as one for the sake of the hypnotizer the plot of a Sam and Max game? Don't tell me that Madara is actually a colony of sentient bacteria that feeds on happiness.
Don't be ridiculous. Madara is actually the Soda Poppers stacked on top of each other.
No offense but I can't help but feel that people are completely biased by calling that a ridiculous idea. I'm sure that if Oda would have introduced a similar concept in One Piece people would call it a brilliant idea. Heck, in the original Transformers series Unicrons head became a moon of Cybertron and people found it cool. It doesn't strike me as any more ridiculous as what has just been established in Naruto. Yet here it get's dissed and I think for no other reason but because it's Naruto.
The moon in this case is just a bigger version of the big powers we've seen, though. It's literally just a combination of all the tailed beasts and magic eyes which just going to be used as a bigger version of the hypnosis associated with said eyes. It just feels to redundant for the series.
Don't be ridiculous. Madara is actually the Soda Poppers stacked on top of each other.
If Madara controlled hell (and had to take a leak every couple minutes) the series would be so much more fun. He's probably just a country western star and his bodyguard stacked on top of each other in a sasquatch costume.