Chapter 559 "A Mandate from Heaven" Discussion
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hancock will defeat smoker
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If i see it correctly the marines battleships are behind WB and co? Which means the marines planned to surround him in the bay?
Well it looks like they we're hoping that WB and his crew would overhear that Ace was being executed early. So WB would rush in to quickly rescue Ace while the marine battleships surrounded the bay. Then while the pirates are rushing in, the battleships will attack. But WB saw through it when he stayed behind and ordered the NW captains to destroy the marines battleships surrounding them by ordering them to attack the left and right.
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Well it looks like they we're hoping that WB and his crew would overhear that Ace was being executed early. So WB would rush in while the marine battleships surrounded the bay. Then while the pirates are rushing in, the battleships will attack. But WB saw through it when he stayed behind and ordered the NW captains to destroy the marines surrounding them.
I completely agree.
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I can understand why Luffy's face looked so happy when he looked up after she kicked Smoker in the face. Nice angle.
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Well it looks like they we're hoping that WB and his crew would overhear that Ace was being executed early. So WB would rush in while the marine battleships surrounded the bay. Then while the pirates are rushing in, the battleships will attack. But WB saw through it when he stayed behind and ordered the NW captains to destroy the marines surrounding them.
I don't think that was the whole plan.. because Sengoku says it's too late already. Well evidently they wanted all the pirates into the bay as fast as possible.. that might explain why Aokiji and Akainu aren't doing much.. but yeah I hope it is more than just a "buster call" attack on the pirates' formation because that can be countered rather easily with all those big shot pirates around. Maybe they are hiding a bunch of super cannons?
@Usopp:I can understand why Luffy's face looked so happy when he looked up after she kicked Smoker in the face. Nice angle.
Nothing he hasn't seen a few times already..
And pandaman on p5 (top), p6 (top), p7 pandahead on a ship?
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lskfdjflsk Ace your angst is so delicious. ;; Also lmao Hancock you are such a nut.
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According to Onemanga, Dragon is no longer the leader of the revolutionaries:
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@Tokoro:
As much as it probably sucks that Luffy took out Tashigi, remember that he punched Alvida without concern way back at the beginning of the manga. Sure Tashigi is a respectable character but Luffy just attacks and goes through anyone and anything in his way, regardless.
Doesn't look like he hit Tashigi. She just made that face because Smoker went past here. If Luffy had hit her, she would have made a much more damaging face.
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According to Onemanga, Dragon is no longer the leader of the revolutionaries:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/559/17/Dragon???????????????
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I don't remember him saying that he fought evenly with Kaidou. Do you know the chapter?
It is heavily implied and then revealed throughout Thirller Bark arc, It's the reason why Moria is so lazy now and why he made his crew zombies, in order not to lose his crew again, since zombies are already dead.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/456/10/
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According to Onemanga, Dragon is no longer the leader of the revolutionaries:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/559/17/According to cnet's translation, Iva was called "Revolutionary Army commander".
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Good chapter , seeing pirates moving about . Some set up fights to come.
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According to Onemanga, Dragon is no longer the leader of the revolutionaries:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/559/17/Maybe Iva is the commander/leader of the actual army and Dragon is the leader of the movement with Iva as his general?
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Leader of the revolutionary army! Thats gotta be wrong.
I figured some super special cannon was developed by Vegapunk and with all the pirates running in they would blast them. But if they are now seperated attacking the ships and it's still too late for the WB alliance, I can't imagine what would be grand enough to attack all the pirates and not the marine forces.
I would love to hear Luffy's reactions to Smoker's talk about Dragon saving him. Luffy knows that Dragon was in Logue Town with him, but Garp never explained that it was Dragon who saved him from Smoker. The big suprised question mark on his head makes me wonder what he was thinking. And I doubt he was surprised by the seastone weapon holding him down as he knew about that since the beginning of the series.
Last thing, right before WB called upon the Mario Bros(the murderers) he called for someone else who wasn't around. I wonder if that captain got killed or Oda is setting that one up for something special. I doubt he would write it in like that for nothing.
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Damn good chapter. It was good to see Hancock step in and pwnt Smoker.
Plus, Schichibukai battles all around! Speaking of which, I wonder what happened to Croc…I have a feeling, though, that there won't be a chapter next week :sad:
p.s…. Fonts rock!
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I love how similar Smoker looks like Crocodile in this panel. It's totally the cigar. _
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It is heavily implied and then revealed throughout Thirller Bark arc, It's the reason why Moria is so lazy now and why he made his crew zombies, in order not to lose his crew again, since zombies are already dead.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/456/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/481/08/A bit more than implied
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/483/06/Doesn't look like he hit Tashigi. She just made that face because Smoker went past here. If Luffy had hit her, she would have made a much more damaging face.
Looks to me like he hit her, there is an impact effect below her face.
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I have a feeling that Hancock and Smoker will stalemate or Luffy will tell Hancock that he wants to be the one that beats Smoker. On the otherhand Marco could step in and do the job WB gave him.
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So it is now clear that haki is what allows those who master it to hit logias (and probably have some control over other DF users).
And wasn't it stated somewhere in the manga before that Kuma was dead, or thought dead ??? -
Nothing he hasn't seen a few times already..
Except the last time wasn't very sexy with her taking her clothes off immediatly. The whole teasing thing is much more exciting.
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A bit more than implied
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/483/06/Looks to me like he hit her, there is an impact effect below her face.
I hate to keep bringing this up but I can't help it. Since that guy clearly didn't see the battle, I'd say that comment was meant to make Moria seem more awesome (comparing him to a yonkou) after Luffy bet him, making his defeat more of a big deal. How the actual battle went, I'd rely more on Moria's words then that guy. It's more implied that Moria lost and was pushed (through trauma) into making a zombie army then anything else.
Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention, how awesome was Whitebeard in this chapter? Manipulating the prionsers (through Buggy) into fighting for him? That's the best pirate in the world for ya!
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According to cnet's translation, Iva was called "Revolutionary Army commander".
http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=24694That's good for Mama Dragon
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Great chapter! Now stupid guess time: someone is going to hurt Hancock BAD and Luffy will unleash all his King's haki. Then total pwnage.
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Did anyone catch Iva crotch grabbing a marine and Doflamingo sitting on those corpses?
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Luffy won't go mad for Hancock. He has to save this for Ace.
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So is the implication that only the king's haki will allow Logia users to be hit, or any haki? I hate mentioning haki, but I was interested in what the consensus is.
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So is the implication that only the king's haki will allow Logia users to be hit, or any haki? I hate mentioning haki, but I was interested in what the consensus is.
I find it reasonably safe to assume that it's any hakition. I say this because the Boa sisters who didn't have the overlord variety were able to bypass Luffy's rubber ability when they hit him.
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yes, good to know it's confirmed.
Smoker is just more observant than Kizaru was.
…but then again, Kizaru is a little daft...
or he just didn't feel like mentioning it while fighting Rayleigh.
Ol' smokey cares about us curious readers
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Did anyone catch Iva crotch grabbing a marine and Doflamingo sitting on those corpses?
lol@Ivankov :)
@Santouryuu:So is the implication that only the king's haki will allow Logia users to be hit, or any haki? I hate mentioning haki, but I was interested in what the consensus is.
We have seen that one of the Boa Sisters could do it, and also Sentoumaru, so obviously not just king haki, but I think it is a more advanced technique to cancel a DF power (which includes logia) and that not all the women on amazon lilly can do it.
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Why is Moria fighting Jimbei with an umbrella?
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I think Just before Luffy reach Ace (And run out of allies) BB will come to the party…
yes, good to know it's confirmed.
Smoker is just more observant than Kizaru was.
…but then again, Kizaru is a little daft...
or he just didn't feel like mentioning it while fighting Rayleigh.
Ol' smokey cares about us curious readers
Kizaru is provably used to fight Haki users, somebody able to hurt him must be common for the admiral, now this could be the first time someone hurt Smoker without seastone…
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Why is Moria fighting Jimbei with an umbrella?
What umbrella? I saw the scissors he used to cut off shadows only seperated so he had a blade in each hand. And I may not be a Moria fan, but if he doesn't get the chance to bust out some moves with that nifty use of the scissors, Imma be a lil disappointed. Until Inazuma recovers and scissorhands ppl :P
I'm not trying to say I'm not enjoying the war, but I'd like to know where Croc was this chap, and what Ina's condition is, and where Mr. 1's been lately. BB's plan can wait until he actually does it, I want the suprise, but info on the others we know are at Marineford too would be nice. Even if they're unlikely to do anything major (except possibly Inazuma, who I can almost see stepping in and saving Iva from Kuma). -
Having read the translation, I'm warming even more to the theory I mentioned in the spoiler thread that the discussion between Dofla and Ivankov isn't talking about something that has happened in the last few days, but that Kuma had an entirely different personality back during his tyrant days, and that Ivankov is simply out of touch from his stint in Impel Down.
Hey Freedom, watcha think about the Buggy stuff?
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I hope cliff hanging Kuma's history like that will mean Oda plans on explaining some of it next chapter…i'd be really disappointed if i had to wait around to hear the explanation...
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PANDAMAN SIGHTED: Just look to the left of IVANKOV
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/559/04/
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For all who don't remember who "Cpt. Squardo" is (the guy WB is looking for):
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I was right in the spoiler thread!? By making a joke!? So Captain Squad is not a squad of NW captains but the captain Squardo…
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Squardo is also shown here …http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/553/12-13/ I guess is he is a high tier !
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i think zoro is in the middle of a giant bulls head. the two black things seems like horns to me.
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Thanks for the raw, awesome chapter as always
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Having read the translation, I'm warming even more to the theory I mentioned in the spoiler thread that the discussion between Dofla and Ivankov isn't talking about something that has happened in the last few days, but that Kuma had an entirely different personality back during his tyrant days, and that Ivankov is simply out of touch from his stint in Impel Down.
I very much doubt Kuma is still the same as the one we know (who helped Luffy). It would make no sense that Oda makes this week's cliffhanger out of it, even with the tag note "what could this mean.." if it is only Ivankov that knows him differently.. not to mention his behavior is quite different so much that a lot of people already guessed this last week.
PANDAMAN SIGHTED: Just look to the left of IVANKOV
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/559/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/559/06/Oh I missed the one on p4 but you missed the one on p5 (top, behind mr3)
@GaaraofTheDesert:Squardo is also shown here …http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/553/12-13/ I guess is he is a high tier !
I can see 5 of the 8 that responded to WB's call in that spread, cool.
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Davy Jones lookalike Captain versus VA Onigumo anyone?
Slash showers ftw.
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Doesn't look like he hit Tashigi. She just made that face because Smoker went past here. If Luffy had hit her, she would have made a much more damaging face.
Yeah but what's wrong with her left cheek?
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Yeah but what's wrong with her left cheek?
smoker knows how to keep his hoes in line
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Ouch. Poor Smoker. Having an enraged Hancock coming after you is probably not very good for your health. And poor Sengoku. First Whitebeard sees through his plan and now one of his most powerful assets is defecting in the middle of the battle
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History of kuma and ivankov:
That i know of:
KUMA WAS (concluding here that he is no longer a tyrant bcoz he doesnt act as one as of the present) once known as "kuma the tyrant"
Ivankov saving countries with his hormones2 power thingy (Miracle Worker as stated by Bon Clay)Conclusion without any or maybe only little facts whatsoever to back it up:
Ivankov powered kuma (when he was still a tyrant) during the old days with his hormones2 power thingy which changed kuma ( no longer a tyrant now bcoz of the hormones) and helped saved his country. That's how they know each other.Or maybe they were lovers in the past that got sour..lol
its my prediction ( i don't know if someone already predicted it first) so don't get upset bcoz its only a theory with no great facts to back it up..:D
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History of kuma and ivankov:
That i know of:
KUMA WAS (concluding here that he is no longer a tyrant bcoz he doesnt act as one as of the present) once known as "kuma the tyrant"
Ivankov saving countries with his hormones2 power thingy (Miracle Worker as stated by Bon Clay)Conclusion without any or maybe only little facts whatsoever to back it up:
Ivankov powered kuma (when he was still a tyrant) during the old days with his hormones2 power thingy which changed kuma ( no longer a tyrant now bcoz of the hormones) and helped saved his country. That's how they know each other.Or maybe they were lovers in the past that got sour..lol
its my prediction ( i don't know if someone already predicted it first)
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Davy Jones lookalike Captain versus VA Onigumo anyone?
Slash showers ftw.
Davy Jones lookalike Captain is the captain with metallic jaws?? Or the octopus guy.
Talking about the octopus guy, he has 6 arms. Is a DF or is a Hybrid between fishman and human??