@Zik:
I think he's comparing that to when the little girl bumped in to him with the ice cream and when Luffy crashed in to him and Ace at Alabasta. Both times Smoker got hit and felt it.
That's just a gag scene. Learn to read a manga.
@Zik:
I think he's comparing that to when the little girl bumped in to him with the ice cream and when Luffy crashed in to him and Ace at Alabasta. Both times Smoker got hit and felt it.
That's just a gag scene. Learn to read a manga.
The little girl used haki.
Or ice cream must be the smoke's weakness.
@$abZ:
The little girl used haki.
Indeed. ice cream haki.
Honestly, I thought how Luffy was introduced was sort of corny.
"Look everyone it's Strawhat Luffy, Gasp (Spectators, Coby, Helmeppo, Fullbody), Jango (Jango), Despair (Garp), Fawn (Hancock), Look Funky (DoFlango), Honk (Moria), FlashBackToQuaintRememberanceOfThePast (Whitebeard)"
I think he wants to speed it up, and not make it last to two chapters to fully develop everyone's reactions, and it could end up boring.
Ugh, I'm so hungus for the next few chapters.
Partially so I can stop thinking of increasingly ridiculous shit when I'm stuck in evening traffic. Shit I'm 100% certain won't happen anyway.
lol. smoker just ignoring attacks from powerful enemies..
I wonder what croc is gonna do next, luffy just embarased his ass infront of everyone.
It's not like he's gonna be like "ok strawhat you said I can't touch him, so now let me help you fight these powerful marines"
He is most likely pissed right now and isn't one of those luffy 1 hit characters
I wonder if Luffy's dad will show up to save the day :)
It looks like Whitebeard recruited Wolverine on his side.
He's a Wolverine wannabe. Those things are just strap-ons. XD
I wonder if Luffy's dad will show up to save the day :)
Speaking of, Dragon sure is a dead beat father…
There seems to be a lot of those in One Piece.......
I wonder if he was a legit reason for not being involved in Luffy's life not one bit.
Unless it's one of those "I stayed away from you in order to protect you" explanations.
I wonder what croc is gonna do next, luffy just embarased his ass infront of everyone.
It's not like he's gonna be like "ok strawhat you said I can't touch him, so now let me help you fight these powerful marines"
He is most likely pissed right now and isn't one of those luffy 1 hit characters
croc's reaction is totally weird. it's like he respects luffy as an ally or their agreement when luffy is the man who ruined his life. weird indeed.
it's understandable if croc is interested in something more than whitebeard's life or if he has his priorities in order and needs allies to survive the war..but that just doesn't seem like croc's style.
I wonder if Luffy's dad will show up to save the day :)
No!!! the whole world is practically empty of Marine right now. It would be really dumb of Dragon to not seize this opportunity.
@Ao:
croc's reaction is totally weird. it's like he respects luffy as an ally or their agreement when luffy is the man who ruined his life. weird indeed.
it's understandable if croc is interested in something more than whitebeard's life or if he has his priorities in order and needs allies to survive the war..but that just doesn't seem like croc's style.
Everything makes sense if you slash everyone in the series like a lunatic. Wacky but effective.
@Ao:
croc's reaction is totally weird. it's like he respects luffy as an ally or their agreement when luffy is the man who ruined his life. weird indeed.
it's understandable if croc is interested in something more than whitebeard's life or if he has his priorities in order and needs allies to survive the war..but that just doesn't seem like croc's style.
It's not weird. I just don't think Oda is holding true to the whole Luffy doesn't need to kill villains cuz he'll kill their dreams and be done with them. Croc obviously seems over it. It obviously didn't "ruin" his life. That was clear when he made the deal in ID.
You can say he has a new dream in going after WB but we know Oda just kept Croc in jail for this moment. Probably giving Croc some weird reasoning as to why he didn't escape when he had the chance. I mean he either gave up, had a reason to go in, or ID wasn't all that bad for him.
I'm more interested in what he does after this war. I don't see him dying, it'd be a shock if he actually killed WB, so what's left? Don't see him joining BB's crew. Possibly starting his own crew?…. again?
I think he'll end up with the Revolutionaries, personally. I mean, Ivankov's still got a bit of a hold on him and he has an animal theme goin' on…
@O:
some one helping Luffy gang secretely again…
first the door opened and now the ice turned into water...Who can it be???
Dragon, Raleyh, Kuma, dadan?
As for the door, I don't really know (nobody knows…) But the ice thing... It was Jozu, when he throw the big iceberg to the marines and Akainu melt it.
@Zik:
It's not weird. I just don't think Oda is holding true to the whole Luffy doesn't need to kill villains cuz he'll kill their dreams and be done with them. Croc obviously seems over it. It obviously didn't "ruin" his life. That was clear when he made the deal in ID.
You can say he has a new dream in going after WB but we know Oda just kept Croc in jail for this moment. Probably giving Croc some weird reasoning as to why he didn't escape when he had the chance. I mean he either gave up, had a reason to go in, or ID wasn't all that bad for him.
I'm more interested in what he does after this war. I don't see him dying, it'd be a shock if he actually killed WB, so what's left? Don't see him joining BB's crew. Possibly starting his own crew?…. again?
If you go back to ID or pay attention to the cover story croc never had any intention of escaping. It was only when he learned about the WB situation did he finally feel a sense of purpose.
@Zik:
I'm more interested in what he does after this war. I don't see him dying, it'd be a shock if he actually killed WB, so what's left? Don't see him joining BB's crew. Possibly starting his own crew?…. again?
I agree with this. I think him grabbing Mr. 1 and a few others for a new makeshift crew after the war that will later reappear makes the most sense. I'm just not sure how far Oda will explore his relationship with WB–I mean, it has to be addressed in more detail. I suppose a lot of it will depend on who he fights against in the war. I figure some marine force will attack him to keep him occupied.
I wonder if Luffy's dad will show up to save the day :)
Maybe if Luffy was going to die. And if Dragon was watching the broadcast.
I think he'll end up with the Revolutionaries, personally. I mean, Ivankov's still got a bit of a hold on him and he has an animal theme goin' on…
I thought of that while typing up my post but that's something under such an unwilling situation. If Croc goes against the grain in the next chap despite Luffy basically saying I'll definitely stay in your way once again I doubt he's gonna let Iva have him under his thumb for long. He'd need something to entice him and change his mind.
I don't see him standing around watching the war brooding over the fact that he "can't" attack WB. I expect him to try again two chaps from now and wouldn't be surprised if he decided to throw down with Luffy and WB next chap.
@AlmostLegendary:
If you go back to ID or pay attention to the cover story croc never had any intention of escaping. It was only when he learned about the WB situation did he finally feel a sense of purpose.
Where in my post did I suggest otherwise? All I commented on is that he must have some weird reason for not wanting to escape. Since he didn't and he could've. Like I said before, it's probably one of or a combination of him giving up altogether, having a reason to willingly go to ID, or the torture in ID was nothing to him at all and he just didn't care. I didn't connect that with his new reason of wanting to get out to kill WB.
@Steven:
I agree with this. I think him grabbing Mr. 1 and a few others for a new makeshift crew after the war that will later reappear makes the most sense. I'm just not sure how far Oda will explore his relationship with WB–I mean, it has to be addressed in more detail. I suppose a lot of it will depend on who he fights against in the war. I figure some marine force will attack him to keep him occupied.
Yea, he sees/treats WB like an old foe. So if something/somebody else does grab his attention I'm guessing some other WB pirate he has beef with or possibly a marine VA that has a grudge with him for I dunno maybe never being able to catch him before he became a shichibukai.
I really can't call what Croc does after. I was cool and expected CP9 to stay together and do their own thing as wanted "outlaws." I dunno what Oda's could do with Croc as a pirate captain again and everything(wonders what happens to his old crew). Like I don't wanna see him as a SH ally, some type of anti-hero, and it'd have to be one helluva an arc for him to come back as a villain again just to lose, again. So I'm not even amped to see him come back as that.
Don't want him to be the polar opposite of Buggy either playing the role as the defeated villain that is still around going on his own adventure that'll get tied in to the main story and every hundred or so chaps we see them interact with somebody connected with the SHs or will be…....
On a slightly other note after Jimbei's line to Sengoku I'm hoping w/e happens the marines maintain the need for the shichibukai and replaces his spot, possibly BB's or Hancock's too. Wouldn't mind for a bunch of new faces with a new theme(color since BB sticks out).
i think Jimbie is going to keep croc Busy and occupied.
while Luffy and Whitebeard Continue forward on their race to save Ace.
Heck maybe smoker might want a piece of croc, smoker is very concerned about croc for some reason.
Ace is Luffy's Uncle, technically, since it was Garp, not Dragon, that adopted him… but that's irrelevant, I suppose.
I have to wonder... did Ace and Dragon ever meet or interact? I doubt they'd get along, but it'd be interesting to see how they interacted with each other.
I suppose they will when Ace becomes the 9th crewmember.
Kidding! I'm just kidding.... don't hit me.
What do you think qualifies as 'greater than Roger'?
Until we see some more flashbacks and learn more about Roger as a whole then its going to be impossible to gauge them both in terms of greatness.
Yeah we do not know about rogers strength and techniques and what he achieved, All i want is not a version 2 of roger. Would be lame. Right now luffy has the same attitude as him. I expect more later and in the new world.
yeah, i agree with you, zik.
it feels weird because of oda's non-killing but destroying dreams stance.
croc doesn't seem to broken up and totally over it now. which means most villains could feel the same way, which throws that idea totally out the window and makes it feel like even more of a cop out
Crocodile wanted to be pirate king, but that didn't pan out. Then he tried to get Pluton and that failed, too
Crocodile wanted to be pirate king, but that didn't pan out. Then he tried to get Pluton and that failed, too
Now he wants to kill WB to I guess to try and be PK again? Maybe WB being in the war motivated his dream/made him realize he has another chance again?
Thing is we know he's gonna fail again or I should say Croc killing WB would be more shocking/surprising to me than Croc dying in this war.
On the bright side, after this year Oda won't have movie 10 to busy up his schedule anymore.
Yeah, just a parasite that shits, pees, cries and eats.
@Zik:
Now he wants to kill WB to I guess to try and be PK again? Maybe WB being in the war motivated his dream/made him realize he has another chance again?
This war is his only shot at Whitebeard. He's lost everything, so he has nothing to lose.
@Zik:
Thing is we know he's gonna fail again or I should say Croc killing WB would be more shocking/surprising to me than Croc dying in this war.
We know that, but we're the audience.
No it doesn't since Ace is not Dragon's son. Iva assumed he was since Luffy, Ace's brother, is Dragon's son. Since Ace is not Dragon's son, then that throws off Iva's assumption of Dragon's arrival.
I mean the answer to his question is no.
I wonder if Luffy's dad will show up to save the day :)
I don't know about you guys but doesn't it seem far-fetched that a war is breaking down right now? I don't think this is gonna continue. For one, there are way too many lives on the line, all very good and intelligent pirates and marines, especially the admirals.
I'm just not sure if Oda's skill at doing a gillion fights at once will actually work. I believe Luffy's dad will go Dragon on everyone and blow out the war entirely, Whitebeard take Ace, Luffy happy, leave island, go to crews, etc. I mean, Luffy's dad IS Dragon, there's no way he'd let him get his ass handed to him by the marines.
Yeah, just a parasite that shits, pees, cries and eats.
His wife can take care of that. We'll probably encounter a woman with a 'nursing' DF power soon though.
@Taco:
I don't know about you guys but doesn't it seem far-fetched that a war is breaking down right now? I don't think this is gonna continue. For one, there are way too many lives on the line, all very good and intelligent pirates and marines, especially the admirals.
I'm just not sure if Oda's skill at doing a gillion fights at once will actually work. I believe Luffy's dad will go Dragon on everyone and blow out the war entirely, Whitebeard take Ace, Luffy happy, leave island, go to crews, etc. I mean, Luffy's dad IS Dragon, there's no way he'd let him get his ass handed to him by the marines.
I tend to agree with you, but I think BB's arrival might spell an abrupt end to the war. Also don't forget the secret plan that Sengoku just set in motion, we'll have to see what that is first before we can speculate further.
I don't know about you guys but doesn't it seem far-fetched that a war is breaking down right now? I don't think this is gonna continue. For one, there are way too many lives on the line, all very good and intelligent pirates and marines, especially the admirals.
I'm just not sure if Oda's skill at doing a gillion fights at once will actually work. I believe Luffy's dad will go Dragon on everyone and blow out the war entirely, Whitebeard take Ace, Luffy happy, leave island, go to crews, etc. I mean, Luffy's dad IS Dragon, there's no way he'd let him get his ass handed to him by the marines.
Oda did well on CP9 for about 7 battles.
I think that 7 battles would be enough in this all out war, as long as we had (again, like in CP9) some panels showing the overall fight going on.
And of course, a way to make the story going on besides the battles.
Don't you worry, Oda will do it well.
The 1st thing Crocodile has to do is to get WB" s head.
After the War he should go to the Shabaody and free the 500 pirates who were captured by Kizaru (including Urouge, Apoo, Hawkins, Drake) . Thats how he will form a new crew…
Oda did well on CP9 for about 7 battles.
I think that 7 battles would be enough in this all out war, as long as we had (again, like in CP9) some panels showing the overall fight going on.
And of course, a way to make the story going on besides the battles.^
I don't think he is gonna be focussing on a fight that doesn't involve a mugiwara in the same way that he did in the cp9 arc. So it'll mostly be about Luffy and the rest of the fights as 'background' I guess. That is, until something interrupts the festivities again (sengoku's plan, BB showing up,..).
Don't you worry, Oda will do it well.
That I agree with wholeheartedly.
His wife can take care of that. We'll probably encounter a woman with a 'nursing' DF power soon though.
Ah, forgot. Duh. He's Japanese.
First I ll comment on the comments regarding birth of Ods child and it affecting his work…
While it might, it shouldnt... You can have a child, you can have two 5 10 100 for all as employer cares, what do you do in your personal life...he also shouldnt have cared more or less...untill it effects your JOB, or better to say PERFORMANCE!
You guys are saying it like, now Oda has an excuse to start being late for his job, not being able to keep to his schedule and so on...
Which I must say, cracks me up. Plus if there are people who give away part of their social life for their jobs, they are Japanese.
Now as for chapter 558, I ll make a uick prediction:
Because Luffy is now standing where WB is and isnt as close to Ace as we would have thought before chapter 557 hit, he wont be able to just run to Ace to the rescue, if he would have been...then its really funny WB hasnt done it already.
So basically next chapter Luffy and WB will be making their way forward so we ll see bunch of fodder being blown away untill at the end of a chapter someone strong actually stands before/ stops Luffy, leaving us in a "suspense"
So after I have thought it through, the next chapter may not be as awsome as I have thoguht and will be more or less a "gap fill" neccessary chapter in order to show how Luffy came closer to Ace in the first place...
Also it is possible that at the very end of a chapter we may see loads of pacifista and alike coming to the frontline putting WBs side in some deep shit (knowing one of this things was plenty for a Super Nova, 100 of those would be enough to turn the tide...
Arrrrrrrrrr, Happy Pirate Day everyone!!!
May the booze be with you.
So basically next chapter Luffy and WB will be making their way forward so we ll see bunch of fodder being blown away untill at the end of a chapter someone strong actually stands before/ stops Luffy, leaving us in a "suspense"
So after I have thought it through, the next chapter may not be as awsome as I have thoguht and will be more or less a "gap fill" neccessary chapter in order to show how Luffy came closer to Ace in the first place…
Kizaru will charge at luffy next chap. And because he moves at the speed of light he shouldnt need a whole chapter to reach luffys position. I dont know if marco will follow him the whole time, so it is a possibility that the jail break team have to deal with him. That would make the 558 chapter anything else than a gap fill.
First I ll comment on the comments regarding birth of Ods child and it affecting his work…
While it might, it shouldnt... You can have a child, you can have two 5 10 100 for all as employer cares, what do you do in your personal life...he also shouldnt have cared more or less...untill it effects your JOB, or better to say PERFORMANCE!
You guys are saying it like, now Oda has an excuse to start being late for his job, not being able to keep to his schedule and so on...Which I must say, cracks me up. Plus if there are people who give away part of their social life for their jobs, they are Japanese.
Now as for chapter 558, I ll make a uick prediction:
Because Luffy is now standing where WB is and isnt as close to Ace as we would have thought before chapter 557 hit, he wont be able to just run to Ace to the rescue, if he would have been...then its really funny WB hasnt done it already.
So basically next chapter Luffy and WB will be making their way forward so we ll see bunch of fodder being blown away untill at the end of a chapter someone strong actually stands before/ stops Luffy, leaving us in a "suspense"So after I have thought it through, the next chapter may not be as awsome as I have thoguht and will be more or less a "gap fill" neccessary chapter in order to show how Luffy came closer to Ace in the first place...
Also it is possible that at the very end of a chapter we may see loads of pacifista and alike coming to the frontline putting WBs side in some deep shit (knowing one of this things was plenty for a Super Nova, 100 of those would be enough to turn the tide...
$37-7151-11\135$ <unlock the="" fucking="" lame="" code<br="">they're only stating,not giving an excuse/saying or(like saying),they can accept it lol "the delay" coz of Oda's child
dude he's a human,yeah your first born child,given birth by your hot wife,
U dude saying it like,draw manga first,before the child wtf,instead the baby first,manga first,before the baby,I know you said "they were like saying"
but it is a proper excuse for a delay
we know he's also a human,at first I thought he isn't lol,also movie 10 strong world(Oda's burden)fillers
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I expect Croc and everyone else in Luffy's gang being busy for a while as Kizaru charges against them .
$37-7151-11\135$ <unlock the="" fucking="" lame="" code<br="">they're only stating,not giving an excuse/saying or(like saying),they can accept it lol "the delay" coz of Oda's child
dude he's a human,yeah your first born child,given birth by your hot wife,
U dude saying it like,draw manga first,before the child wtf,instead the baby first,manga first,before the baby,I know you said "they were like saying"
but it is a proper excuse for a delay
we know he's also a human,at first I thought he isn't lol,also movie 10 strong world(Oda's burden)you</unlock>
Chill out, only ment that you should seperate:
Job
Personal life
One shouldnt stay in the way of the other and unless an emergency thats how it is. So point?
Dont know why people think having a child will make him draw less frenquently or whatever…
To quote:
On the bright side, after this year Oda won't have movie 10 to busy up his schedule anymore.
Yeah, just a parasite that shits, pees, cries and eats.