He would wreck most opponents without much work. Remember, he also had mantra so he could predict the opponents' moves.
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I'd rank him between VA and admiral level in this war. Lightning logia + decent fighting capabilities + mantra. However I don't think he'd do too great in this war, he's never really been tested to the max or had to go all out (aside from vs Luffy), on his sky island noone could ever touch his logia body.
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Even at full power with his 200VV, Ener's attacks are necessarily capped to frying small areas. I think he'd equally devastate either Marine or WBP infantry, but would be more devastating against the WBP simply because the other Logias in the admiral tier have protection against Ener's attacks.
With Maxim, I don't think it's unlikely he could lay waste to the entire island and destroy everything. Especially if he was high enough where he could use a surprise attack like Akira's SOL Satellite, requiring someone to go up there and fight him personally.
As far as attacking goes as a third party, I don't really know how the Marines, WPB or Shichibukai would react. On the one hand, they've got to secure their mission. On the other hand…there's this ridiculously powerful lightning man causing massive destruction left and right. Should they take the effort to stop him, or defend the mission?
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Wait, since Enel isn't aware of the powers of the "Blue Seas" people, they might just have an advantage against him. If that is the case, do you think Hancock's Mero Mero can work on him?? The person with the biggest chances of beating him would be someone with a conductor based ability. Though it would be cool seeing Kizaru firght Enel. Idiot vs. Idiot.
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They might just unknowingly team up and take him out. As in both side decide to fight him and get him out of the way, with both sides doing sneaky stuff to further their "real" goals.
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With Maxim, I don't think it's unlikely he could lay waste to the entire island and destroy everything. Especially if he was high enough where he could use a surprise attack like Akira's SOL Satellite, requiring someone to go up there and fight him personally.
One glance from WB to Marco and Maxim and Enel are quickly destroyed.
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Enel would get his ass kicked the moment he stepped in the HQ.
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Spek, your not/sarcasm attempt fails badly either way.
Fail is excused when it is in favour of Enel.
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Enel definately wouldn't get his ass kicked. I'd stick him around Kuma's level. The thing with Enel is that his ability is largely affective to most people. Look how quickly he got rid of Zoro, and still would. The dude came back from death too. The only thing that lets him down is his combat skills… I can imagine Marco or Garp being able to take Enel out purely on combat skills (and that they are likely haki users, as we saw Marco make contact with Kizaru). Against non-haki users, or people without abilities that counter lightening, Enel would be too much to handle.
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One glance from WB to Marco and Maxim and Enel are quickly destroyed.
It's funny that we haven't seen marco hurt anyone and he can now destroy enel. you forgot maxim also has it's own lightning based attacts, much stronger than canon balls I might say. I don't see him losing quickly. I'm sure we've also forgotten he has one of the strongest logica fruit around. Oh did we forget his speed? I'm sure he can't beat everyone, but talking like he'd get beat so easily…
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Maxim wouldn't do Enel much good. Both sides should have the ability to stop it in its tracks. If Whitey's quakes can't shatter it to pieces, then Marco could melt it. Kizaru and Akainu should both have that ability as well. Plus, I bet Mihawk can cut gold ;P
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@$abZ:
Enel definately wouldn't get his ass kicked. I'd stick him around Kuma's level. The thing with Enel is that his ability is largely affective to most people. Look how quickly he got rid of Zoro, and still would. The dude came back from death too. The only thing that lets him down is his combat skills… I can imagine Marco or Garp being able to take Enel out purely on combat skills (and that they are likely haki users, as we saw Marco make contact with Kizaru). Against non-haki users, or people without abilities that counter lightening, Enel would be too much to handle.
for the most part I agree with this. Judging from the fact that Marco can make contact with Kizaru, then I'm sure that hitting Enel would be completely viable.
Maxim would be destroyed pretty fast, but that might not be the case (especially if it's above everyone). But regardless, Whitebeard himself would make short work of the contraption.
With enough power used, Enel could take out most of the marines and pirates battling. Shichibukai, top-tier pirates, and Admirals are a whole other discussion itself.
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Maxim wouldn't do Enel much good. Both sides should have the ability to stop it in its tracks. If Whitey's quakes can't shatter it to pieces, then Marco could melt it. Kizaru and Akainu should both have that ability as well. Plus, I bet Mihawk can cut gold ;P
Well, couldn't enel just launch a storm or lightning bults
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Is Using A Minotaur To Gore Detainees A Form Of Torture?
And a side question: Any one else think that Emple Down is giving intelligence agencies ideas about extracting information from prisoners? :wassat:
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It's funny that we haven't seen marco hurt anyone and he can now destroy enel. you forgot maxim also has it's own lightning based attacts, much stronger than canon balls I might say. I don't see him losing quickly. I'm sure we've also forgotten he has one of the strongest logica fruit around. Oh did we forget his speed? I'm sure he can't beat everyone, but talking like he'd get beat so easily…
Nope, you are the funny one if you think that a person who can fight equally with an admiral and can make contact with logias and be immune to his attacks won't utterly destroy Enel when Luffy made him run away fairly quick.
Speed? Marco caught up to Kizaru who is faster than Enel.
Maxim would get torn to shreds or burnt up pretty easily. And that is assuming that only Marco could reach it because it's too high, otherwise Papa beard would destroy it faster than he did Aokiji.
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@123:
Is mythical zoan the same as ancient zoan or?Im sorry if this was asked before.
A dinosaur is not a dragon. So, no, they are not the same.
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Nope, you are the funny one if you think that a person who can fight equally with an admiral and can make contact with logias and be immune to his attacks won't utterly destroy Enel when Luffy made him run away fairly quick.
Speed? Marco caught up to Kizaru who is faster than Enel.
Maxim would get torn to shreds or burnt up pretty easily. And that is assuming that only Marco could reach it because it's too high, otherwise Papa beard would destroy it faster than he did Aokiji.
lol, marco didn't hurt kizaru and at that point kizaru wasn't even moving fast. So what if enel attact from very high where no one can see him eh? from there raigou, lightning bults are possible, on one would know where he was, plus his mantra would make it easy to hit anyone from that distance. Seeing as lightning bults go down instead of up, or else there is someone who can find enel in a split second. HAHAHA So touching someone is destroying them very funny, keep posting, you're a great laugh.
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lol, marco didn't hurt kizaru and at that point kizaru wasn't even moving fast. So what if enel attact from very high where no one can see him eh? from there raigou, lightning bults are possible, on one would know where he was, plus his mantra would make it easy to hit anyone from that distance. Seeing as lightning bults go down instead of up, or else there is someone who can find enel in a split second. HAHAHA So touching someone is destroying them very funny, keep posting, you're a great laugh.
You really are the funny one.
Fact is, Marco made CONTACT with Kizaru, and didn't pass through him.
Remember when Luffy was making contact with Enel? Luffy was hurting him.
Now think how much more Marco is stronger than Luffy, and go figure.
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@$abZ:
You really are the funny one.
Fact is, Marco made CONTACT with Kizaru, and didn't pass through him.
Remember when Luffy was making contact with Enel? Luffy was hurting him.
Now think how much Marco is stronger than Luffy, and go figure.
We haven't seen marco hurt anyone like I said, nor his physical strength, I can easily say he's as weak a fly or strong as WB, didn't I already say touching someone isn't destroying them.
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We haven't seen marco hurt anyone like I said, nor his physical strength, I can easily say he's as weak a fly or strong as WB, didn't I already say touching someone isn't destroying them.
His kick was blocked by Kizaru but still had enough force to send him rocketing to the ground, that says something about Marco.
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I gots one word for you muthafuckas: Raigou.
Bye-bye, Marine HQ!
Oh, wuzzat Whitebeard? You're gonna stop it with one of your air quakes?! Oh you have fun setting off the lightning bomb that can destroy an island right in your face! That'll be fun times! Baptism by fire, anyone?! Well, lightning, but you get the drift.
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One glance from WB to Marco and Maxim and Enel are quickly destroyed.
You missed the point, if Ener is using Raigoh from up in the stratosphere, none of those characters are going to reach him.
Kizaru might, being made of light I think he can survive in a vacuum, but there's no way Marco or Whitebeard are going to. Unless Whitebeard can make "time-quakes". :ninja:
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His kick was blocked by Kizaru but still had enough force to send him rocketing to the ground, that says something about Marco.
Well, I didn't see Kizaru hurt, off Marco, people keep saying Enel would quickly lose without thinking about any of enel's advantages and thinking he'd be standing still in plane view for target practice:getlost: I'm leaving now and I'll say this enel wou't go down so easily. Oda even said he's bounty would be 500 million. He can even power his own god damn heart.
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You missed the point, if Ener is using Raigoh from up in the stratosphere, none of those characters are going to reach him.
Kizaru might, being made of light I think he can survive in a vacuum, but there's no way Marco or Whitebeard are going to. Unless Whitebeard can make "time-quakes". :ninja:
@Narutoss: No.
Oh alright. From up in the stratosphere. Well, I don't know that Enel would even know where to attack from up there. It's quite the distance you've set in between targets. Unless you are suggesting that he uses his Mantra/DF hearing to know where to direct his attacks.
I still think that Raigou is too slow to be set up in time. I mean, it wasn't really the fastest attack. Now picture it going ponderously downwards several km. If Luffy could dispel it, there is a chance that somebody else can as well. I'm pretty sure that someone, Kizaru being my best bet as well, would take him down regardles if he is percieved as a threat.
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@Narutoss: No.
Oh alright. From up in the stratosphere. Well, I don't know that Enel would even know where to attack from up there. It's quite the distance you've set in between targets. Unless you are suggesting that he uses his Mantra/DF hearing to know where to direct his attacks.
I still think that Raigou is too slow to be set up in time. I mean, it wasn't really the fastest attack. Now picture it going ponderously downwards several km. If Luffy could dispel it, there is a chance that somebody else can as well. I'm pretty sure that someone, Kizaru being my best bet as well, would take him down regardles if he is percieved as a threat.
"No" that's great
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this is hella dumb
Although I'd like to see that "she's a woman" "I can see that" exchange with Hancock as the victim
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! Is it Oz or Oars? Which was the mistake, or was Oars just named differently; even though that wouldn't make sense with the Jr. thing.
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I think most of you are overesimating Marco. He kicked Kizaru, who was all "oh that hurt" and Marco was all "stop lying" and then kizaru crashed down and WAS COMPLETELY FINE.
Not once was Kizaru hurt, on the kick or impact with the ground.
So Marco easily beating Eneru seems like a stretch.
Still, I'd place Eneru at shichibukai level. He's got an incredibly OP devil fruit against people who aren't rubber, and can read his oppenent's attacks if he's calm enough.
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It's Oars. We were just guessing at the romanization with Odz (or Oz) but Oars is correct.
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Eneru would probably annihilate most of the fighters and I'm not saying that because he WAS my avatar xD. His power would be countered if Kizaru or another logia user battled him.
Let me rephase that: Light>Lightning.
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I don't know about this stop Maxim talk easily talk. Just cuz they have the power to shoot it down doesn't mean anything.
On the marines side Enel could crash it in to Mob Dick or all of those other NW pirates. On WB's side he could crash it in all those fodder marines and trust if he noticed it was going down he would try and take as many ppl he was against with it.
Him doing that shortens the part of the war dealing with fodder.
As for combat I'm not sure any if the logias could do anything to him. Only sea stone and haki would do the job and WB since he can hit logias(probably with haki).
Either way by himself I'd say he'd do the same amount of damage as any other logia there.
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@Kairouseki:
It's Oars. We were just guessing at the romanization with Odz (or Oz) but Oars is correct.
K thanks, I was getting confuse about that.
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So why did it take so long for us to get this correct spelling?
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@Zik:
So why did it take so long for us to get this correct spelling?
Oda officialy romanized it with the spelling on a flag. Then we just put 2 and 2 together.
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When Eneru is smacked by Luffy, he gets hurt bad.
When Kizaru is smacked by Marco, he's sent flying but isn't really injured. He can also sword fight Rayleigh.
Point is, I'm fairly sure Kizaru is beyond Eneru when it comes to physical fitness.
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Point is, I'm fairly sure Kizaru is beyond Eneru when it comes to physical fitness.
Kizaru eats his Cheerios, part of a complete breakfast and can lower your cholesterol.
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I find that people tend to underestimate Enel. Remember, the Goro Goro no Mi is referred to by Robin as "one of the few fruits considered to be invincible". Add the fact that he has the mantra ability.
This makes me believe he would be on par with Admiral-level opponents (I don't count Haki usage, since we don't know for sure who can use it)Oh yeah, and his Thunder-God form is as large as the entire island. Well, at least as large as Oars..
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I see Ener getting slaughtered in this war, but more for his personality then anything. The guy is too confident in his power, and unlike the other logias he's never meant fighters with his kind of power. I see Ener sticking out like a sore thumb and getting beat down by multiple powerful forces. Here he's just one guy.
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I wonder if Luffy were the natural weakness to any of the admirals could he hurt them the same as he did to Enel? The problem with logias is determining how much of there power is reliant on their df, to his credit Enel still put up a fight after his logia was shown to be pretty much useless against Luffy.
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@Zik:
So why did it take so long for us to get this correct spelling?
Because オーズ is basically Oozu which is why everyone thought it was Oz or Odz. The ー can also make it sound like an r is there but nobody thought of that .
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Enel would do major damage since he is basically on par with most of the people there, he has Mantra a.k.a. Haki and lightning is pretty damn strong I mean Imagine a Oars made out of pure lightning walking around and witth his alchemy he'll be unbeatable.
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Most of the top players would rape his ass…Great attack and all but he has no experience against other logias, Haki or physical harm...
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He's probably do a lot of damage but would end up be taken out by multiple strong Haki people since he has a tendency to show off. They would get annoyed and gang up on him.
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A dinosaur is not a dragon. So, no, they are not the same.
Ok thanks alot.Theres sure lots of Zoans out there.
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K thanks, I was getting confuse about that.
just like Luffy is Luffy and Zoro is Zoro not the weird Ruffy and Zolo stuff :)
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Nah, he won't be raped.
Oda himself, has mentioned that he would has a bounty of approximately 500 million beri and the reason why Oda states this is simply to show us the extent of Enel's power. He would have caused major damage and will be one of the top-tier.
And regarding the cocky issue, all the big names are confident in their ability to a certain extent.
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He would go around blowing up all the ships, and the fodder along with them.
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I finished reading the rather depressing Chapter 555 (here's hoping Oda doesn't break his taboos just yet) and thought about how tightly packed and chaotic the battle at Marinford really is.
A) Oda never said he wouldnt kill anyone, he just doesnt like pointless deads
B) We have seen ton of nameless people die all over the place
C) We know the 3 priests of enel died since they were sent to drift in a cloud
Also this:
Nah, he won't be raped.
Oda himself, has mentioned that he would has a bounty of approximately 500 million beri and the reason why Oda states this is simply to show us the extent of Enel's power. He would have caused major damage and will be one of the top-tier.
And regarding the cocky issue, all the big names are confident in their ability to a certain extent.
Enel can probably destroy most of the people outhere anyways
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A) Oda never said he wouldnt kill anyone, he just doesnt like pointless deads
That's contrary to what he does in the manga. He only kills in flashbacks, and while people in the present appear to "die with honour" that ends up never happening. The only deaths in the manga thus far have been no-name characters (like the Piggy Pirates).
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Well, If Eneru has storm clouds in his favor, he'll have a seriously huge advantage. Like a weapon of mass destruction really.
How he would fare depends on what side he's on, and whatever resources he has available to him. With government aid, he could afford to create alot of cloud generators.