1 thing I noticed is that all vice admirals except garp are swordsman. And maybe Dragon's real name is not Monkey D. Dragon, perhaps he change his name after he obtained the fruit. Seriously who would name their child Dragon??
Chapter 554 "Admiral Akainu" Discussion
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Random question… Is Akainu's design supposed to be after some real world person (like Borsalino who is based on Kunie Tanaka)?
Because his appearance seems really absurd by One Piece standards, he doesn't look like he's of that world lol.
Bunta Sugawara, and yeah, it's pretty funny when Kizaru or Akainu interact with others "cartoonish" characters, also i love how geezers like Rayleigh or Newgate address the Admirals as youngers, even when they're like 40 or something.
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So all this time Odz/Oz has been really Oars or is there just Odz then his son Oars followed by Oars jr? And Akainu isn't really a surprise to me but Marcos is the shit!
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i imagine luffy's role in this war is jumping right into the middle, landing up next to ace, looks at sen goku with his characteristic laugh, grabs hold to ace, and gomu gomu's away again, hehe leaving sengoku with an open mouth, stunned for the few seconds!!!
but we'll see, he'll come when it is time for luffy to come in…
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i imagine luffy's role in this war is jumping right into the middle, landing up next to ace, looks at sen goku with his characteristic laugh, grabs hold to ace, and gomu gomu's away again, hehe leaving sengoku with an open mouth, stunned for the few seconds!!!
Don'T forget the seastone handcuffs [..]
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Don'T forget the seastone handcuffs [..]
uhhh… Whitebeard can just rip it off with his strength or cut it with his weapon. If Rayleigh can get out of his cuff then WB can do it too.
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@Zik:
baby-boo must be a troll. All of your posts and opinions wreak of bad manga.
Lets send me to the north pole in a barrel for sharing my opinions.
Can't anyone argue these days without insulting others.
Don'T forget the seastone handcuffs [..]
If he grabs Ace by the legs he will be far away from it for it not to affect him.
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If he grabs Ace by the legs he will be far away from it for it not to affect him.
Exactly and bring him to WB or somebody else that can take them off.
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Exactly and bring him to WB or somebody else that can take them off.
Zoro wasn't able to cut seastone. Rayleigh didn't explain how he got the explosive cuffs of the mermaid lady, there may be a technique that WB can't use. Ivankov seems pretty wise though.
After the chapter there were 4 pages with recaps (format of a newspaper called Grand Line Gazette or something), that weren't included in most scanslations.
oh thanks :D
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probably he'll do a zoro grab or something like that against arlong.. hehehe
but would be totally hilarious…
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Zoro wasn't able to cut seastone. Rayleigh didn't explain how he got the explosive cuffs of the mermaid lady. Ivankov seems pretty wise though.
oh thanks :D
Because Zoro wasn't strong enough yet…. Seastone cuff could possibly rival diamond or it could be tougher. Hey!! remember that giant that was next to Rayleigh, he doesn't have a cuff or one of those explosive collar when he step out with the Dark King. I think WB can take them off.
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Because Zoro wasn't strong enough yet…. Seastone cuff could possibly rival diamond or it could be tougher. Hey!! remember that giant that was next to Rayleigh, he doesn't have a cuff or one of those explosive collar when he step out with the Dark King. I think WB can take them off.
Rayleigh took his and the giant's cuffs of. Keys can be made easily anyway. Or use the wax guy.
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Rayleigh took his and the giant's cuffs of. Keys can be made easily anyway. Or use the wax guy.
Key made with what? Mr. 3 is still in prison around that time, and if they have or made a duplicate key then why didn't they free the other next to them. Franky got the key backstage and give it to the slave.
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Come on, they freed the whole ID who's prisoners were all handcuffed in seastone ! They don't even need to break or open Ace' handcuffs, they just have to bring him along. Really, do you think that handcuffs are the problem right now ???
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So all this time Odz/Oz has been really Oars or is there just Odz then his son Oars followed by Oars jr?
Oops, I didn't even see his name written on his boat :-) Looks like Oda wanted to clear some things…
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uhhh… Whitebeard can just rip it off with his strength or cut it with his weapon. If Rayleigh can get out of his cuff then WB can do it too.
First I left a comment about gallowsx' post, in which he mentioned a possible way about Luffy getting Ace
Second, I actually doubt that those slave cuffs were made of seastone -
im realy looking forward to this in the anime and marco is just awsome ive always liked his character design nice to see hes got an awsome df
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Come on, they freed the whole ID who's prisoners were all handcuffed in seastone ! They don't even need to break or open Ace' handcuffs, they just have to bring him along. Really, do you think that handcuffs are the problem right now ???
You're right forgot about that. If Luffy manage to snag Ace like that then it could be the greatest moment ever. Luffy doesn't need to beat anybody and still be infamous to the whole world.
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I think that Luffy and the I.D. Criminals will join the scene and after Sengoku and the Admirals R busy with WhiteBeard and his crew Luffy will use his DF powers 2just either stretch his arm out and grab Ace or he will use Gear 2nd to rescue him.
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good chapter, but how come for the last two weeks, they seem too short, what's up, anyway now that we know all the admirals powers, does this mean that volcanic man is the strongest of the three.
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Did the gigantic 'Magma Fist' attack make anyone else imagine a Luffy vs Akainu match-up?
good chapter, but how come for the last two weeks, they seem too short, what's up, anyway now that we know all the admirals powers, does this mean that volcanic man is the strongest of the three.
I think most people (myself included) imagined that Akainu would be the most powerful, now i don't see it so much (Although i don't doubt that he is extremely strong)
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Whom will whitebeard fight with?. Maybe Akainu + Aokiji?. He is the strongest man so he should take on atleast 2.
Whitebeard vs Aokiji+Akainu
Marco vs Kizaru
Jozu vs Mihawk
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Key made with what? Mr. 3 is still in prison around that time, and if they have or made a duplicate key then why didn't they free the other next to them. Franky got the key backstage and give it to the slave.
I ment Mr.3 is with Luffy heading towards Ace right not. They can use him to create a key.
Really, do you think that handcuffs are the problem right now ???
Something to talk about while waiting. Ofc it's a minor problem.
@GolD.:
I think that Luffy and the I.D. Criminals will join the scene and after Sengoku and the Admirals R busy with WhiteBeard and his crew Luffy will use his DF powers 2just either stretch his arm out and grab Ace or he will use Gear 2nd to rescue him.
=DAkainu is watching over Ace.
good chapter, but how come for the last two weeks, they seem too short, what's up, anyway now that we know all the admirals powers, does this mean that volcanic man is the strongest of the three.
Kizaru seems to be the strongest. Ice can freeze things, but it can also ment by his volcanic ability. While Kizaru seems to have no weakness.
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Whom will whitebeard fight with?. Maybe Akainu + Aokiji?. He is the strongest man so he should take on atleast 2.
Whitebeard vs Aokiji+Akainu
Marco vs Kizaru
Jozu vs Mihawk
?Maybee Sengoku or garp take on whitebeard. marco vs. kizaru seems realistic and jozu could fight akainu, his diamond form could save him from the magma attacks.
I expect the shichis to choose their opponents in the new chapter, but mihwak will prob fight against some other swordsman.
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I don't think it's gonna turn into a bunch of one-on-ones with the top pirates and top marines/shichibukai. Would be nice to watch but Oda isn't gonna drag it out like this. Not sure what's gonna happen, but I can't get rid of the impression that WB's gonna fall.
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What about Rayleigh? maybe he already know about Ace being Roger son or know it now since Sengoku just announce it to the whole world. Would he stay quiet knowing that his captain son is going to die? Common people!!! think of the possibility that Oda trying to built up here.
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Holy crap Ace, you're certainly beloved by many. Which I guess makes you an extremely charming young man or the huge manwhore I sort of assumed you were. <3
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Whom will whitebeard fight with?. Maybe Akainu + Aokiji?. He is the strongest man so he should take on atleast 2.
Non-sequitur.
Being the strongest man in the world doesn't mean WB should be able to take on two Admirals. The simple fact that there is a balance suggests that there are fighters very near WB's level and it's logical to assume that the WG's greatest are among them.
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Oh yeah, Dragon!!! with the WG ultimate force gather to face WB, this is a perfect chance for Dragon to lead his army and show the world what the "Worst Criminal in the World" is possible of. Think of the possibility people.
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Whom will whitebeard fight with?. Maybe Akainu + Aokiji?. He is the strongest man so he should take on atleast 2.
Whitebeard vs Aokiji+Akainu
Marco vs Kizaru
Jozu vs Mihawk
?This chapter made me think that maybe there are not going be true matchups, at least not Bleach style, i mean, it seems that the Mihawk/Jozu thing just stopped and dont see Aokiji fighting with WB this chapter either…I wouldn't be surprised if the next chapter Marco is just attacking at random marines from the sky
Also I hope WB doesn't fight directly with anyone until BB comes, so Teach can take him at full Strength
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Non-sequitur.
Being the strongest man in the world doesn't mean WB should be able to take on two Admirals. The simple fact that there is a balance suggests that there are fighters very near WB's level and it's logical to assume that the WG's greatest are among them.
Balance doesn't mean shit anymore, Shichibukai work for WG. There are 4 Yonkou. So far, it only WB and it not such a 1 sided battle. What if the other 3 Yonkou join WB!! the balance would be fuck up for sure.
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I must say the lastest chapters as far as content goes, they've been short + sweet. Oda has cut a few corners in a lot of panels, but in the panels he doesn't, WOW. How many double spreads we going to get per chapter. O_o
Unfortantely, this chapter is nothing more then a long Chumbawumba fight. Everyone's there, we don't know whos being knocked down until its mentioned, when we do see it its rare and quick. Everyone's in and out. I must say, I read the comic final Crisis; Legion of Superheroes; legion of three worlds. Thats the kind of fight we have here that was throughout the entire comic book mini-series.
As nice as these fights are, they are just for show. The normal rules of a fight never apply. When they work, they wow, when they don't they get confusing. Oda's done a pretty good job at not confusing… However the pace is quick at the moment, and even long chapters few.... Short.
I'm hoping Oda doesn't do these fights too often, we've had a few minors up until now, but nothing competes with this on the scale. I must say I compare this with the Frieza fight from DBZ, and in my opinion THIS is more how Namek SHOULD have been handled IMHO. Not a single battle between two overpowered fighters, one big epic battle between spoilt brats side and monkey idiot. I know the green guys weren't fighters, but I can't believe they were complete by standers as most of them seemed to have been portrayed. :-/
Here there are no by standers, we already had the elder MArine lady tell us theres little point in running.
I'm going to cut it there, I was only going to make this short... I've got carried away! X-D
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Balance doesn't mean shit anymore, Shichibukai work for WG. There are 4 Yonkou. So far, it only WB and it not such a 1 sided battle. What if the other 3 Yonkou join WB!! the balance would be fuck up for sure.
Except it's not only Whitebeard whose fighting the Marine HQ & Shichibukai, but it's Whitebeard and crew + a Fleet of 43 ships all lead by infamous New World Captains vs The Marine HQ and 5 Shichibukai. That balances out in my eyes.
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I wonder how TOEI will handle this war. I mean what we've seen from the last 3 chapters is minutes worth of action (except Ace's backstory). I hope it doesn't end up like Naruto, with a fuck load of pointless expressions and scans of the area for about fifiteen minutes of the episode.
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Balance doesn't mean shit anymore,
Bullshit. The Gorosei had their panties in bunches over the loss a one Shichibukai and a relatively weak one at that.
So far, it only WB and it not such a 1 sided battle.
1. WB has 43 ships worth of infamous New World pirates on his side.
2. The Shichibukai are missing two members.
3. Sengoku confirmed that they have the stronger force.One-sided battle? We've seen almost nothing of the battle besides high tiers duking it out. Even the Shichibukai have yet to move.
What if the other 3 Yonkou join WB!! the balance would be fuck up for sure.
Other than being completely irrelevant you also contradict your first statement.
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Ah by the way, the next chapter will probably not be about Luffy yet because we need to see what the shichis are up to. It will be time for some important decisions: what will Boa do ? What will Kuma do ? You know, Hancock may turn a lot of people into stone… but including marines... Hancock + Moria would be a lethal combo.
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I was thinking about Garp's disappearance for awhile. Well there still chance he can be that dalmantine zoan, but if not there a theory:
! Garp know that Luffy survived ID, he know, Luffy on his way to MHQ. When battle began, and gates opened, Garp talks Tsuru into cowering him for awhile and go to met Luffy-team. He dos not want to lose Luffy and wont let another pirate team join brawl. On encounter Garp tell Luffy about not being qualify to go to Ace if he can not get past him. Luffy fight, feel "love punch" several times, connect lose ends and learn control over his haki. Being taken out, Garp return to Tsuru laughing madly and complaining about lack of respect from youngsters. In mean time Luffy proceed to MHQ bay, from back side up to platform and goes strait to Ace. Shocked Sengoku try to stop him, but Luffy shut up him as BB did to Sarquiss in Jaya. Akainu gets in Luffy's way and get blasted out. It's not like they done for or wounded, but Luffy win some time. Whitebeard see it, give order to retreat and and saying "seems Shank's beat was worth it" jump in the heart of battle preventing admirals from going after Luffy.
! In mean time Buggy awaken on the beach, where was Luffy and Garp fight. He first to awaken and finds Garp's dog-hat so he takes all glory for defeating Garp. -
Boy I can't wait to read the replies to this^.
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I get the gist of it but I just can't get pass the bad grammar. It's painful.
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@Zik:
I get the gist of it but I just can't get pass the bad grammar. It's painful.
What about the part in which Luffy one shots Sengoku?
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What about the part in which Luffy one shots Sengoku?
I knew it was insanity when Luffy released and controls his haki on Garp.
Everything after was just a pretty bad joke.
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@Zik:
I knew it was insanity when Luffy released and controls his haki on Garp.
Everything after was just a pretty bad joke.
Suffer the wrath of the fist of love punch!
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What about the part in which Luffy one shots Sengoku?
Well at least he didn't say one shots PWNGOAT. Hell not even WB can do that.
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That theory is golden, I love the Naruto quality of it.
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I was thinking about Garp's disappearance for awhile. Well there still chance he can be that dalmantine zoan, but if not there a theory:
! Garp know that Luffy survived ID, he know, Luffy on his way to MHQ. When battle began, and gates opened, Garp talks Tsuru into cowering him for awhile and go to met Luffy-team. He dos not want to lose Luffy and wont let another pirate team join brawl. On encounter Garp tell Luffy about not being qualify to go to Ace if he can not get past him. Luffy fight, feel "love punch" several times, connect lose ends and learn control over his haki. Being taken out, Garp return to Tsuru laughing madly and complaining about lack of respect from youngsters. In mean time Luffy proceed to MHQ bay, from back side up to platform and goes strait to Ace. Shocked Sengoku try to stop him, but Luffy shut up him as BB did to Sarquiss in Jaya. Akainu gets in Luffy's way and get blasted out. It's not like they done for or wounded, but Luffy win some time. Whitebeard see it, give order to retreat and and saying "seems Shank's beat was worth it" jump in the heart of battle preventing admirals from going after Luffy.
! In mean time Buggy awaken on the beach, where was Luffy and Garp fight. He first to awaken and finds Garp's dog-hat so he takes all glory for defeating Garp.My god… That's a terrible theory imo. So many holes. All of it falls apart from just the 1 fact that you assume Luffys Haki is a magical force never seen before, once mastered he can take out Sengoku/Garp/Akainu... He's not a Jinchuuriki :ninja:
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@Fiasco.:
That theory is golden, I love the Naruto quality of it.
To continue that theory, I imagine that after Sengoku is hit he'll say to Luffy "You have grown strong boy… opens his eyes slowly however the New World is an entirely different ocean." Sengoku has the Mangekyo Sharigan he had it stolen from Gol D. Roger's corpse. Coincidentally Gol D. awakened it at his execution which is why we never saw his eyes during the execution.
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Awesome chapter :D
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I just can't shake the feeling Sengoku is more of a Spandam. We've never had any indication he can actually fight, and the admirals were portrayed as the marine's strongest fighters so he clearly doesn't fit the whole "the higher your title the stronger you are" thing. Ok I know, maybe the goat, but…
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I just can't shake the feeling Sengoku is more of a Spandam. We've never had any indication he can actually fight, and the admirals were portrayed as the marine's strongest fighters so he clearly doesn't fit the whole "the higher your title the stronger you are" thing. Ok I know, maybe the goat, but…
He was a former Admiral, don't let the glasses fool you, I'm sure that he is 100% pure BAMF.
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