i already told you to breathe. You keep forgetting it. 2009 is coming and you know what you should change.
his … underwear?
Chapter 525 "Underwater Prison Impel Down" Discussion
-
And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.
-
Wow damn, the spoilers are really late but okay xD.
On the Brightside, how later they come, the faster it will feel we have the next chap 8'D.
Hmm I am hopeing to see some more of Impel Down.. o.o which will happen I guess
-
@dirt:
his … underwear?
That too. Its too tight. Hold on! How did i know about his underwear? worried face
-
BTW, everyone knows next issue is a double issue right?
And the next one for that matter.
-
Ivotas wasn't your whole point that they wouldn't know anything about Buggy and thus wouldnt seastone cuff him?
Are you now saying that it's evident that they loked him up? Thus learning that he has a DF?
Lol, sometimes it's funny how you need to explain everything. When I say that he's not noteworthy their attention, then I mean that he is such a small fish in a big see that they don't have all info about him. And his DF ability being part of such information.
The point is, that he is a wanted pirate, so of course the Marine must have some information about him but not all information. Is the difference really so hard to understand?
The reason you have to explain it is because your whole point was that they wouldn't put seastone cuffs on him because they didn't know who he is. If you are admitting that they would look him up (and learn he has a Devil's Fruit), then aren't you sort of throwing your own point out the window? Or are you suggesting that they would not put seastone cuffs on him – despite his having a Devil's Fruit -- simply because he is "small fry".
No, that was not my point. I'd be an utter retard if I would argue that they don't know who he is when he's acknowledged by the Marines as a wanted pirate? My point is that he is that much of a small fry to them that they simply tend to easily forget about him, thus taking him lightly and not seastone cuff him. Is it really that hard to understand/accept that you can be aware of the existence of one person without knowing every detail about him because you have more serious matters to attend too?
Another thing about Buggy being small fry: He is a former Roger Pirate and yet has only 15 million Belly on his head. That alone is proof how little they care/know about him. Didn't Borsalino say that the sins of a pirate don't disappear? Especially the Roger Pirates? And wasn't it made clear with Tom that everything concerning the Pirate King deserve special treatment by the law enforcers? And yet Buggy is a 15 million Belly small fry at East Blue. To me there can't be no other reason for that but carelessness in regards to him. Heck, I wouldn't even be surprised if they don't even know that he was a Roger Pirate at all. His gimmick really appears to be looked down at.
So I repeat, my point is not that they don't know about him, but that he's such a small fish in a big sea that he's not worth their precious time. And this precious time includes the research on him having a DF ability.
-
Wait, what's a double issue?
-
A double issue means it's an issue that'll be around for two weeks, aka we won't be having a chapter next week.
Meaning we'll have a chapter this week, then no chapter, then new chapter, then no chapter.
-
….
-_-
Sometimes, I hate the Christmas holidays.
-
A double issue means it's an issue that'll be around for two weeks, aka we won't be having a chapter next week.
Meaning we'll have a chapter this week, then no chapter, then new chapter, then no chapter.
WHAAAAAATTTT????? facefault. I thought we'd be having two issues every week :blink:. But it was too good to be true anyway
-
This post is deleted!
-
Sometimes it's funny how you need to explain everything. I'd be an utter retard if I would argue that they don't know who he is when he's acknowledged by the Marines as a wanted pirate.
Well, to have managed to confuse both Gorlom and myself, I would say you erred in there somewhere. In any case, if this is your whole argument you could have made it much easier on yourself with one or two sentences. Now I am not sure why we have gone as far as we have. Essentially, this is what you are suggesting: 'Due to Buggy's lack of infamy and large-scale threat, it is possible and conceivable that the Marine's do not have Buggy's having a Devil's Fruit on record, and would therefore neglect the Seastone cuff's because it wasn't in their information.' This is essentially what you are getting at, right?
I will be honest. During our entire back and forth I never gathered that was what you meant from what you said. All I got from you was that you thought it was possible that in their rush they would assume Buggy doesn't need seastone cuffs because they didn't recognize who he is as a pirate. In any case, if that is your argument then there is not much I can say in rebuttal. While most of this is speculation on your part and mine, the only evidence I can offer to the contrary is that Buggy was caught via a seastone net back in Logue Town. We all know he escaped somehow, but it should be on record that he has a Devil's Fruit. Outside of that little tidbit, I suppose if that (Buggy's profile missing DF info) was made clear it would be somewhat acceptable (though they should have it on record by now). This also leads me to wanting to know why he hadn't escaped sooner than four days (at least) into his stay at Impel Down. For now, I stick to my original belief that he must have been seastone cuffed and still escaped somehow (which would be awesome). I would like to know how though (if that is what it was).
-
BTW, everyone knows next issue is a double issue right?
And the next one for that matter.
Wait, so the issue that comes out Monday(the 22nd) is a double issue? And then the issue after that is double as well? When will we get a new chapter next?
-
Wait so then
it will be
Chapter 526 around 19th
no chapter
Chapter 527 around January 2nd
then the 2-3 week break for the magazine?correct me if I'm wrong… otherwise... what the fuck Oda.
-
This is how it will run in Japan. I cannot promise you how fast/slow the releases on the Net will be.
Monday Dec. 22 Issues 4 & 5 Contents are equivalent to one normal issue.
Monday Jan. 5 Issues 6 & 7 Contents are equivalent to one normal issue.
Monday Jan 18 Issue 8 Back to normal
Bullshit eh? But people work hard so they gotta play hard.
-
This post is deleted!
-
This is how it will run in Japan. I cannot promise you how fast/slow the releases on the Net will be.
Monday Dec. 22 Issues 4 & 5 Contents are equivalent to one normal issue.
Monday Jan. 5 Issues 6 & 7 Contents are equivalent to one normal issue.
Monday Jan 18 Issue 8 Back to normal
Bullshit eh? But people work hard so they gotta play hard.
Now I know what dates to look forward to. Thanks Greg.
-
Wow, thanks.
The wait may hurt, but it'll be worth it, and it's perfect for Oda. Hopefully this extra time will do him some good.
-
This is how it will run in Japan. I cannot promise you how fast/slow the releases on the Net will be.
Monday Dec. 22 Issues 4 & 5 Contents are equivalent to one normal issue.
Monday Jan. 5 Issues 6 & 7 Contents are equivalent to one normal issue.
Monday Jan 18 Issue 8 Back to normal
Bullshit eh? But people work hard so they gotta play hard.
Pretty shitty for the people that read the comics but a nice break for the mangakas so I can't really complain; means they'll all bring their A-game after their little break.
-
This is how it will run in Japan. I cannot promise you how fast/slow the releases on the Net will be.
Monday Dec. 22 Issues 4 & 5 Contents are equivalent to one normal issue.
Monday Jan. 5 Issues 6 & 7 Contents are equivalent to one normal issue.
Monday Jan 18 Issue 8 Back to normal
Bullshit eh? But people work hard so they gotta play hard.
Isn't january 18 a sunday?
-
No. Sadly the calendar maker fucked up this year. There was a tremendous recall didn't you hear?
Didn't he take a break last week? I don't really understand why he did that when he knows he's going to have nearly a month of breaks with only a couple of chapters to produce coming up.
He doesn't decide to take breaks. His name isn't Togashi. But no, breaks tend to come every X chapters or so. It used to be like clockwork actually. Everytime he finished a volume's worth of material he'd break. But that might have been a really REALLY big coincidence.
I think one time he actually took a break of his own will and acknowledged it was this past Spring.
-
Well, to have managed to confuse both Gorlom and myself, I would say you erred in there somewhere. In any case, if this is your whole argument you could have made it much easier on yourself with one or two sentences. Now I am not sure why we have gone as far as we have. Essentially, this is what you are suggesting: 'Due to Buggy's lack of infamy and large-scale threat, it is possible and conceivable that the Marine's do not have Buggy's having a Devil's Fruit on record, and would therefore neglect the Seastone cuff's because it wasn't in their information.' This is essentially what you are getting at, right?
With all due respect, even if my choice of words some things really don't desire an explenation. I mean in order to consider someone small fry you should first be aware of his existence. I figured that this basic thought was self evident and doesn't require further explenation.
Edit: Btw, you bring a good point about not seeing how Buggy freed himself from the seastone net in the manga. I actually always thought that the anime explained it quite nicely and filled in a gap that because of the page limit couldn't be included in the manga. But now that I think a bit more about it Oda might have exactly wanted to have it that vague to pull people on the wrong track.
-
With all due respect, even if my choice of words some things really don't desire an explanation. I mean in order to consider someone small fry you should first be aware of his existence. I figured that this basic thought was self evident and doesn't require further explanation.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I thought that the fact that someone recognize his flag was enough to show they are at least "aware of his existence"; though they didn't know his name off hand. Even if you look back at his older appearances in the manga (all one of them), you see that they knew who he was (be it by looking him up, or just bounty-head knowledge) by name. Understandable that his fame hasn't made him stick out enough to call him out by name this far down the Grand Line, but I would still assume any Marine would recognize a pirate flag and look it up. Either way, now that I know what you mean I suppose we can move on.
[hide]
@Chapter:
Villagers: It's B-B-B… Buggy the Clown!!
@Chapter:
Smoker: What's the situation?
Marine: We've got three wanted persons in the square. Alvida the Club, Buggy the Clown, and Straw Hat Luffy.
Smoker: Hmm? Luffy?! Don't know that one.@Chapter:
Alvida: What's this blasted net for?
Buggy: It's the anti-Devil Fruit "Prison Guns" the Marines have invented. They get all kinds of bad guys just like this!![/hide]
-
your hidden stuff wouldn't quote for some reason
Either way, i'm just jumping in on this debate. hehe!
It's not surprising that Smoker knew of Alvida and Buggy, they were some of the highest bountied pirates in East Blue, so having the marine in charge of that entire blue know them doesn't seem weird. Also, him not knowing Luffy seems to fit as well, Luffy had been sailing for what… a couple weeks at most.
While I think we all are wondering how Buggy escaped, I also took the interpretation that the 500 pirates at once was just a big overload for the marines, and they just picked out the obvious trouble makers, and filed away any others that didn't stick out in regular cells.
I mean, for all we know, Kizaru knocked all the pirates unconscious and beat them up pretty badly causing them to be pretty easy to move around like cattle. Then they could have all been transported in a giant seastone prison cell on one or multiple marine ships to Impel Down.
So, to my point, let's say all this happened, then Buggy could have spent a few days recovered before he was healthy enough to attempt an escape. -
Hehe damn you are one sick sadist freedom =P
-
your full post would quote but I wanted to imitate you
Yea. All true. Luffy's bounty had only been made a few days prior to this anyway. The point was to show that even if they didn't recognize a pirate on spot, they could always look them up in no time flat and identify him. Now, if it was this whole "rush" and "500 pirates" stuff that made the chaos for the Marines that caused them to overlook Buggy, while I suppose that is excusable to a degree, it still begs the question of why he hadn't tried to escape by then or why they had not figured out who he was by that point in time. No – No, they knew who he was by then, else they would not have said "Buggy escaped". I am inclined to believe that whatever the reasons behind his capture, he surely must have had seastone cuffs by his fourth day (at least) in Impel Down. Whether he was still knocked out (wow) or simply trying to recover (hard to believe it would take that long) there would be no excuse by that point in time for the Marines to still have not figured out and cuffed him with seastone. Now, while this would be a very small hole if it is not touched upon, I just want to remind that I would not be that disappointed. Just a mild hiccup in the storyline.
-
Hehe damn you are one sick sadist freedom =P
Hehe… you betcha! Nah, really, it's probably because I just finished watching "Last Friends" (A J-Drama).
Yea. All […] that […] storyline.
Man, I just typed up my response, and my firefox crashed. Arghhh!!!
So, here's the quick and dirty version. I also hope that Oda addresses how Buggy escapes. For me, Buggy is just a character that survives on luck, and if Oda is going to make him more capable and/or more important than that, then I want some evidence.
WARNING (Explicit Dialog)!!
-
Man, I just typed up my response, and my firefox crashed. Arghhh!!!
For a second there, I thought you were making fun of me:
[hide]@brennen.exe:
DAMMIT!! I just wrote a huuuuuge post in response to Deltron and Visual Studio crashed my firefox session!! I managed to recover half of it from a savestate, but it's not the same.
[/hide]
-
Hasn't this been the norm for JUMP, national holidays in Japan, and Oda for years now? The releases may fluctuate but at the end/beginning of the year there is always a lot of breaks/no JUMP.
I don't mind the dude taking a break just means after he'll be refreshed probably have some chaps done in advance(or atleast started) and less chance of breaks coming out of the blue(save sickness, etc.)
Only thing I wish is that a double release mean 2 chaps or more pages in one chap sigh
-
For a second there, I thought you were making fun of me:
I wish I were, I wish I were.
[hide]I didn't even realize my firefox crashed until I got back to my bench. stupid software. this is acutally the 1st time firefox has crashed on me[/hide]either way. hoping for some Buggy disclosure.
I think Oda should have a 30-page chapter as the 1st and last chapter of a volume. You know, like the episodes of a season. Normally, the 1st ep is like an hour and a half or two hours, and so is the finale. like back in the day in the US, or currently in japan :)
-
The other day I was scrolling through the manga chapters to see how many pages they averaged, and I was surprised to see a good deal of chapters (primarily prior to chapter 250) with 20-24 pages. I wonder why Oda hasn't done anything like that in a while. Surely he doesn't want to drag this manga on for another 10 years…...does he?
-
Actually, I think that might be due to the scans coming from the volumes, so sometimes the SBS or those blank pages with a single panel get into the scan.
~Stargazer~, ~Distance~ original stories.
3DS Friend Code: 2234-8294-8917
-
Actually, I think that might be due to the scans coming from the volumes, so sometimes the SBS or those blank pages with a single panel get into the scan.
No I mean I actually went through the chapter and there was 20+ actual pages. Let me dig up a few.
-
I think Oda should have a 30-page chapter as the 1st and last chapter of a volume. You know, like the episodes of a season.
Some mangas do that actually.
I wonder why Oda hasn't done anything like that in a while.
From my newly acquired knowledge (after reading Bakuman) the JUMP editors dictate to the mangaka how many pages his next chap should be for the next issue of JUMP. This revolves around the manga being new, where it rates, the demand, and consideration of what other mangas are going to be in the next issue. It's not comic book format(well I mean like in the states) so it has to be some regulation.
Surely he doesn't want to drag this manga on for another 10 years…...does he?
Or maybe he does. If this is Oda's epic(lol) or masterpiece in the making he could just stick with it until it has more chaps than JJBA lol. I mean when I look at it the NW part can easily be twice as long as the first half of the manga. If Oda's not planning on skipping past characters(not saying the Shs have to meet every big name but I think for the most part they will or the person will be covered in the story) or shortening story plots he has for the future.
Besides I'd welcome another 10 years…...
-
@Zik:
From my newly acquired knowledge (after reading Bakuman) the JUMP editors dictate to the mangaka how many pages his next chap should be for the next issue of JUMP.
Yeah, I considered that. But didn't Bakuman also say that the more popular the manga the more freedom the author had…? I thought that was in there somewhere. In any case, I would think they would allow a few chapters with extra pages. It just seems so rare now (as compared to earlier).
@Zik:
Besides I'd welcome another 10 years.
As would I, were it his intention, but I imagine he doesn't want it to last that long.
Edit: A few from a random block of chapters;
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/100/25/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/195/20-21/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/206/20/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/21/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/213/23/ -
Yeah, I considered that. But didn't Bakuman also say that the more popular the manga the more freedom the author had…? I thought that was in there somewhere. In any case, I would think they would allow a few chapters with extra pages. It just seems so rare now (as compared to earlier).
Only thing else I can think of that may be a possibility(for a couple other mangakas too) is that he really has his story planned out on a chap to chap basis and as each week comes he's got what he thinks should be the next part of the story to be released for progression purposes. Basically like an author who already wrote his novel and now is figuring out the way to release parts of it to keep it entertaining and not giving away too much. Plus I guess drawing less pages would lighten the work load, although not that much.
What I get from this manga is that Oda doesn't have many chaps that have pages of just a shot of scenery or some type of build up pf something or action and no dialog like some other mangas do(some do it well, others do it poorly). So for him he might have to
-
Actually in an interview I translated this time of year Oda said he thinks he's halfway done, last year being the 10th anniversary. He also said he was halfway done at around volume 24 so his track record leaves much to be desired.
From that same interview we also learned that this will be his first and last serialized manga. It's so physically draining that he cannot do it again which is why he's going to give it his all without cutting corners.
-
Well from what you said i can imagine that he said it because he finished to write the storys first half? In the 2 interviews he may have not referred to the same things he has finished. Can i read your translations?
-
Well from what you said i can imagine that he said it because he finished to write the storys first half? In the 2 interviews he may have not referred to the same things he has finished.
Sorry I'm not quite sure what you mean. The interview is…it's somewhere around here. Battle Franky found the original and brought all our attention to it. It forget the thread and I'm on my way out at the moment but someone around here can dig it up. If not I'll look for it when I get back!
-
Actually in an interview I translated this time of year Oda said he thinks he's halfway done, last year being the 10th anniversary.
Odas Statement X
He also said he was halfway done at around volume 24 so his track record leaves much to be desired.
Odas Statement Y
So maybe that Statement X != Satement Y. This first of all results from your words. In statement X he said that he thinks he is halfway done.
At around volume 24 he said he is halfway done may. That's what i mean. he may also referr to the story. What if Oda meant he has finished to write the frist half of the story. In Statement X he said he thinks he has finished it and in Statement Y he is sure. And if Statement Y was made at around volume 24 then i assume that he has enhaced his story a lot till last year where he was safe enough to say that the first half is basically finished now :) God (oh i mean allah!) i don't know how to explain it properly :(It forget the thread and I'm on my way out at the moment but someone around here can dig it up. If not I'll look for it when I get back!
Thanks for that.
-
I know this is late, but OMG MOHJI returned?! And now he desserted Buggy? :sad:
But I love his new look, how adorable!
-
Did anyone realise that the guy on the right bottom side looks pretty like Don Creek? even at the right bottom picture there is cre~~ak written. http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/525/10-11/
Just want to hear what you are thinking about.
so long
-
No.. just No. O_O
-
lol, he doesnt look like Creek at all… besides, his real name is Don Krieg, that "Creak" (not Creek) was just a sound effect.
-
If anything, the guy on the top right is kind of similar to Mr.1. But it's obvuiously not him.
