Perhaps since Gear 3 makes Luffy small it's a compacting of his rubber to make him able to break through things easier.
Chapter 409 "Bad News Emergency Broadcasting" Discussion
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NO KAMEHAME-HA'S! Please.
I'm also one that thinks Gear works by specialization. But not to energy beams extent.And Luffy vs Lucci in MQ is soooo cool. Really like oda's work in those last few pages…
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ty for the Mid-Quality scan BattleFranky <3
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NO KAMEHAME-HA'S! Please.
I'm also one that thinks Gear works by specialization. But not to energy beams extent.And Luffy vs Lucci in MQ is soooo cool. Really like oda's work in those last few pages…
I'm wondering when Lucci will go all leopard on Luffy's ass…
this is probably the final battle--hopefully Lucci gets horribly pwned like Crocodile did last time. -
SPANDA! I WISH FOR YOUR DEATH!! How dare he slap Robin and then kick her down the stairs….I prey he gets kicked, grabbed, swung, bashed, and power drived at the end of this.
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NO KAMEHAME-HA'S! Please.
I'm also one that thinks Gear works by specialization. But not to energy beams extent.And Luffy vs Lucci in MQ is soooo cool. Really like oda's work in those last few pages…
Let me rephase that. A super version of the gomu gomu no jet bazooka. Something like that.
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SPANDA! I WISH FOR YOUR DEATH!! How dare he slap Robin and then kick her down the stairs….I prey he gets kicked, grabbed, swung, bashed, and power drived at the end of this.
Fans' hatred for Spandam knows no bounds!
The best would be:
He gets the royal crap smacked outta him by Sanji, Franky, and Robin. Then, Nami hits him in the nuts.
THEN, he gets beat up by his own men.
THEN Oimo sits on him.
And then he gets raped by Funkfried. :happy: -
@IT'S:
Fans' hatred for Spandam knows no bounds!
The best would be:
He gets the royal crap smacked outta him by Sanji, Franky, and Robin. Then, Nami hits him in the nuts.
THEN, he gets beat up by his own men.
THEN Oimo sits on him.
And then he gets raped by Funkfried. :happy:Oh, I happen to like Spandam :ninja:
(Spoiler: I'm not serious)My prediction:
Spandam get's his ass pwned because of the Lucci-Luffy fight. Their attacks will miss their goal sometimes. Gomu gomu no Jet Bazooka could easily break through walls Ò_ó -
And that way, Usopp still has a mighty opponent to fight (although I have no idea how he'll defeat someone as strong as Jyabura).
I think a lot of people are greatly underestimating Usopp's abilities. Remember, he did hold his own pretty well against Luffy.
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i wish there was a scan of this i know what happens but id still like an english version…
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Man, screw you guys, I love Spandam. I find him to be a very entertaining and good villain. I kind of like how he slaps Robin around, because no villain has really done that before. Arlong never smacked Nami around, and damn it, I would've loved to see Crocodile pimp-slap Vivi. He's a snivelling, goofy twerp, but so was Kefka.
I like how the Buster Call came about, it's entertaining and unexpected. I really hope we get to see some of the Vice Admirals fight, especially John Giant and Garp, but with the heavy wounds the Strawhats are sure to receive, I dunno if they'd be up for it.
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I think if One piece were to be related to Dragon Ball then wouldn't the gears be more like Kaioken attack, that was Gokus first major power up, and it didn't really make him too powerful because the strain on his body and the time limit. But anyway I was hoping for more than an overview of what was going on, here is hoping for a slow and painful death for spandam, and a quick end for this arc because I want to see the strawhats joking around again.
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This chapter was awesome =) really speeds things up. "Any loss is a loss of time" (said by Zoro), at this point that statement has been pumped up even more. This adds a lot to the suspence and anticipation.
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I think each gear has its own unique powerup, and then also has its own unique drawback that keeps them from seeming overpowered.
For example, gear 2 provides a massive speed increase (somehow, im sure it will be explained) but then causes Luffy's metabolism to eat up so much energy that he has to stop and eat soon afterwards or be weakened
Gear 3 is a massive strength increase, but then Luffy's body becomes compressed in size, thus weakening him to some extent temporarily until he body decompressed.
I think were in store for several more gears, and the Lucci fight will display most if not all of them. Each will give Luffy an advantage in some manner, but for every gear that Luffy pulls out, he will have to deal with the disadvantages as well, which will make for an interesting fight against such a physically powerful opponent.
Im really REALLY looking forward to this fight now in particular, it can add soooo much depth to Luffy's fighting style, it could provide dozens and dozens of variations on the same moves hes used in the past, as well as allowing for new ones.
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@Cap'n:
Man, screw you guys, I love Spandam. I find him to be a very entertaining and good villain. I kind of like how he slaps Robin around, because no villain has really done that before. Arlong never smacked Nami around, and damn it, I would've loved to see Crocodile pimp-slap Vivi. He's a snivelling, goofy twerp, but so was Kefka.
You have the right to love Spandam all you want, for whatever reasons. But you ain't quite right in saying that "no villain has really done that before". Arlong does smack Nami b4, when she was a kid (http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/onepiecechapter93.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1828)
Although Croc did not pimp-slap Vivi (Did you mean slap?), he did worse things. Just check out what happen at rainbase casino.
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And again!!
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May I ask? The next chapte comes out on the usual Friday, right?
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@Cap'n:
Man, screw you guys, I love Spandam. I find him to be a very entertaining and good villain. I kind of like how he slaps Robin around, because no villain has really done that before. Arlong never smacked Nami around, and damn it, I would've loved to see Crocodile pimp-slap Vivi. He's a snivelling, goofy twerp, but so was Kefka.
Seconded. Thank god, I thought I was the only one.
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I want to see the strawhats joking around again.
So agree I think it's getting too chaotic at the moment and the pace needs to relax soon for me especially with luffy all he's been doing latley is powering up (which is good) but it's sorta verging on the too much power zoan..anyway here's to them finishing the arc without too many casualties (of good guys anyway).
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I think each gear has its own unique powerup, and then also has its own unique drawback that keeps them from seeming overpowered.
For example, gear 2 provides a massive speed increase (somehow, im sure it will be explained) but then causes Luffy's metabolism to eat up so much energy that he has to stop and eat soon afterwards or be weakened
Gear 3 is a massive strength increase, but then Luffy's body becomes compressed in size, thus weakening him to some extent temporarily until he body decompressed.
Well, going by the name, I kinda hope they're like…..gears. Like, hitting 4th in an SRT won't make the car more shiny or harder. Luffy already has insane strength, the only problem is beating someone like Lucci to the punch. And speed adds to power dramatically anyway.
And though I'm clueless on how his body works, compressed muscles would actually allow for better hits.
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In the last panel when Lucchi's and Luffy's punches connected…did their wrists get compressed?
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I think Luffy's did, and I think Lucci just has a really big wrist. The allignment on Luffy's is a little off.
Why wasn't the last thing Lucci said to Luffy translated?
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I think if One piece were to be related to Dragon Ball then wouldn't the gears be more like Kaioken attack, that was Gokus first major power up, and it didn't really make him too powerful because the strain on his body and the time limit.
Yeah…I agree, Gear 2nd looks like Kaioken..but we don't know about gear 3rd,right? Is it gonna be the same effect with gear 2nd?Well if it's the same then Luffy would need a lot of meets..or maybe after the fight like ussual.
btw Luffy and Goku really has a big stomach..(Luffy is a Saiya jin?)
I want to see the strawhats joking around again.
Ha..ha..I doubt that Sanji, Franky, and Zorro can get along. :laugh:
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Jojo Version of 409 is out, if anyone cares :D
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WEEEELLL….
Spandam must die. He slapped Robin down the stairs, while she was bound with Seastone handcuffs and couldn't use her power to protect herself. He's brought another Buster Call on Robin, and the last one killed her mother, Saul, Clover, and everyone on her island. Robin must be pissed.
And he was enough of an idiot to initiate the Buster Call by accident. Dumbass.
So now the Mugiwaras have 30 minutes to finish the fights with CP9, free Robin, free the Franky Family and the giants, find a way off Enies Lobby, avoid getting lost in the panic of everyone else trying to escape, and avoid a Buster Call. Again, this will be a great ending to a great arc.
And the Luffy/Lucci fight looks awesome. Lucci will definently give Luffy some leopard-ownage, and Luffy…..Gear 4? I wonder if we'll ever get to a Gear 5. Gear 2 is should be just under Lucci's human strength, add Luffy's physical strength and you have an even match. Lucci goes leopard, Luffy goes Gear 3-4, another even match. Something's gonna have to break the tie.
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WEEEELLL….
Spandam must die. He slapped Robin down the stairs, while she was bound with Seastone handcuffs and couldn't use her power to protect herself. He's brought another Buster Call on Robin, and the last one killed her mother, Saul, Clover, and everyone on her island. Robin must be pissed.
And he was enough of an idiot to initiate the Buster Call by accident. Dumbass.
All I can say is this proves how amazing Oda is at writing. I am not saying you're wrong - not by any stretch of the imagination. But for Oda to bring such murderous rage into the minds of all of his fans about fictional characters, to make them hate someone so much that does not even exist, truly proves how amazing a writer he is. I feel just this way about Bellamy, but I love Bellamy all the same becuase he managed to be so evil and hateful that it would take an artist of words to make me hate him that much.
For the record, however, I'm with Captain Carter and I think Spandam is the man just because a) he's an evil bastard and b) he's hilarious.
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I can imagine what it'll be like when Robin's out of those cuffs….
It'll be like Mortal Kombat. The whole room goes black and Robin breaks all the bones in Spandam's body, with the following word above Robin's head:
FATALITY!!!!
FLAWLESS VICTORY!!!!
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What I think would be a sort of ultimate irony, or perhaps ultimate poetic justice I dunno, is if, at the end of the arc, the crew IS forced to face down Buster Call, and Robin uses her powers to take down some of the battleships before they can get too close. In other words, she actually performs the crime that was used to hide the real reason such a high bounty was put on her.
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Oda would SO do that, sgamer82.
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It might be closure for her over the fact she has a bounty just for being alive.
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very well! let me see this chapter.
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I just see the Buster Call as the LAST wall Robin needs to break down before she can truely be free.
Think about it, it's something that happened in her past [as a kid] that has been haunting her. Now, over the years, she's always had it in her mind. Maybe replays it, maybe nightmares over it? Everytime she does this, it is blown out of proportions. This is because it happened at a young age, and the fear caused by it slowly works on her. I'm sure you can find real life examples in your own lifes that validate what I'm saying. This Buster Call to her gets bigger, taller, and more destructive each time she replays it. At her current age, it's a huge towering force that pales in comparison to anything in the OdaUniverse(she thinks). She cannot truely be free until she sees the Buster Call defeated. That's all that there is to it. There will be no running awawy from this for the SHs. They WILL face the BC, defeat it, and liberate their namaka from her past once and for all.
Then, and only then will Robin finally be able to enjoy herself in the ship. Not just be in the background, with her same ol emotionless face inside a book. She'll laugh more, call the SHs by their proper names, and take part more in group activities as a family member of the crew.
Robin needs this and I'm glad Oda, in all his wisdom, realized it.
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Just like the SHs faced and defeated Arlong (a menace from Nami's past).
There are some similarities between Nami's backstory and Robin's.
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Many thx for the HQ RAW. Maybe BF could link it on the first page.
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@IT'S:
Just like the SHs faced and defeated Arlong (a menace from Nami's past).
There are some similarities between Nami's backstory and Robin's.
But Robin's is sadder!Yes, I think it very much resembles Luffy destroying the mapping room at Arlong Park, although on a totally different scale.
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Yeah. But in that:
CP9 killed Robin's mom/Arlong killed Belle-Mere
Their childhoods were ruined
They have hated someone/something for it all their life
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This entire arc has just floored me. It's that good.
Even though the World Government is fictional, I hate them as if it were real. Robin's backstory in particular is the last straw (in my opinion) against the World Government.
Oda's a great storyteller to make me feel that way.
I sincerely hope the Straw Hats brutally beat up Spandam, all of CP9, the Marines at Enies Lobby, and the Buster Call fleet.
Robin, especially, has to get some revenge for Ohara.
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This is the furthest-reaching arc yet, with the heaviest implications and a wealth of possibilities. Buster Call? Can't stop the Straw Hats.
What would be cool is if the SHs and Koby & Helmeppo fight without realizing who each others are. Then Luffy shows up and it's all like "Hey Koby, guess I'll have to fight you!" and Koby'll be all like, "Bring it!" -
Anyone else starting to think Robin may actually destroy 6 Buster call ships before the arc's end?
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The thought did occur to me…because the rumor that always went around was that Robin had destroyed a bunch of ships, and it turned out to not be true. Maybe now it WILL become true. But I don't know if she'll do it alone. I think I'd rather see them all do it together.
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The thought did occur to me…because the rumor that always went around was that Robin had destroyed a bunch of ships, and it turned out to not be true. Maybe now it WILL become true. But I don't know if she'll do it alone. I think I'd rather see them all do it together.
That's true, with her fear of the Buster Call she's hesitate to fight it. However, there are 10 ships right? Maybe after seeing the SHs fight a few she'll build her courage.
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BOUNTY PREDICTIONS (based on the chapters thus far):
"Straw Hat" Luffy B500,000,000
"Three-Sword" Zoro B130,000,000
Sanji "the Punishing Chef" B40,000,000 (only if he fights Funkfried or somebody, poor guy)
Nami "the Weather Woman" B50,000,000
"Sogeking" B36,000,000
"Rumble Ball" Chopper B80,000,000
Nico Robin B700,000,000 (hey, they need her!)
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BOUNTY PREDICTIONS (based on the chapters thus far):
"Straw Hat" Luffy B500,000,000
"Three-Sword" Zoro B130,000,000
Sanji "the Punishing Chef" B40,000,000 (only if he fights Funkfried or somebody, poor guy)
Nami "the Weather Woman" B50,000,000
"Sogeking" B36,000,000
"Rumble Ball" Chopper B80,000,000
Nico Robin B700,000,000 (hey, they need her!)
Franky B28,000,000While I agree that Robin will get a super high bounty, I doubt that Luffy or the rest will beat out the Shichibukai bounties.
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@IT'S:
BOUNTY PREDICTIONS (based on the chapters thus far):
"Straw Hat" Luffy B500,000,000
"Three-Sword" Zoro B130,000,000
Sanji "the Punishing Chef" B40,000,000 (only if he fights Funkfried or somebody, poor guy)
Nami "the Weather Woman" B50,000,000
"Sogeking" B36,000,000
"Rumble Ball" Chopper B80,000,000
Nico Robin B700,000,000 (hey, they need her!)
Franky B28,000,000While I agree that Robin will get a super high bounty, I doubt that Luffy or the rest will beat out the current Shichibukai bounties.
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500.000.000 and 700.000.000? Oh please, you gotta be kidding!
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700.000.000?
My god, robin needs to be killed ASAP, j/k With a bounty like that people who CAN catch her will most likely want to know why she has a high bounty.
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The thought did occur to me…because the rumor that always went around was that Robin had destroyed a bunch of ships, and it turned out to not be true. Maybe now it WILL become true. But I don't know if she'll do it alone. I think I'd rather see them all do it together.
I'd rather that they didn't fight the Buster Call task force just yet. If they do, then the Straw Hats have not only destroyed a major symbol of Justice, but one of the strongest tools that the World Government has in its arsenal.
If the villains continually suffer catastrophic losses, then it's hard to portray them as competent foes for the main characters. Oda would need to even the score in some way to keep them credible as a threat.
But if the Straw Hats manage to escape the Buster Call, then it can pursue them for a while before they have a showdown between the two groups. That or it can simply annihilate Enies Lobby because Spandam is too big a bastard to let the Navy know that he made a mistake. We can get an idea of how strong the Vice Admirals are and that will make the Buster Call more of a threat for a future battle.
Otherwise, the World Government would almost have to order the Momotaro Trio and/or the Shichibukai to deal with the Straw Hats personally. It still seems a bit early for this unless Oda is planning to wrap things up at a much quicker pace than he has traditionally shown. The other option is that the World Government turns it attention to East Blue: if they can't beat the Straw Hats, then they'll make them suffer a different way.
Right now, the Main Event of this story arc is the fight between Luffy and Lucci. The fight with the Buster Call would be an afterthought in comparsion because we only really know four of the Vice Admirals and we don't really know that much about them outside of the fact that Crane is smart, Comil likes coffee with milk, John Giant makes speeches, and Garp is a pretty nice guy.
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Well, I didn't say that it had to happen at this juncture. ;) I think they will defeat Buster Call at some point, but you're right that it would be both sudden and overkill right now. But who knows…. :/ I'm still wondering how they're going to get off the island. I'm thinking Iceburg may have a hand in it somehow.
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I think the Buster Call will get there and as everyone is getting Robin back, Sanji will board one of the ships and fight the vice captain of that boat and beat everyone there. This would give Sanji a really cool moment, and Provide a way for everyone to escape. This would be a cool moment for Sanji and would provide them away to escape Enes Lobby.