Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead)
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@Ivotas said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Zhenja
Thank god. Was worried there for a second. Which still begs the question who Kyka is. The name doesn't ring a bell but since it's tied to the paw paw fruit it's obviously One Piece. Can anybody fill me in?Just a typo, was supposed to be Kuma I guess.
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@Zhenja said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Ivotas said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Zhenja
Thank god. Was worried there for a second. Which still begs the question who Kyka is. The name doesn't ring a bell but since it's tied to the paw paw fruit it's obviously One Piece. Can anybody fill me in?Just a typo, was supposed to be Kuma I guess.
Lol, silly me. Should seen that one coming. But with all going on in the story right now, the timing of spoilers and the fact that we've seen previous users of existing Devil Fruits in Wano my head went directly the new character route.
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@Ivotas said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Zik
Please don't tell me this was a spoiler.Given what was posted? No.
You might be able to understand the question later though.
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The only thing stopping me from assuming Bonney will join are her powers. Having someone on the crew who can age and de-age everyone sounds like chaos. If those powers could be removed somehow, I would have to put Bonney at the top of my list for new crewmate.
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@Shin10-Bukuro maybe they can take away her powers and give her Kumaās paw paw fruit
I donāt know man Iām just winging it
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@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
The only thing stopping me from assuming Bonney will join are her powers. Having someone on the crew who can age and de-age everyone sounds like chaos. If those powers could be removed somehow, I would have to put Bonney at the top of my list for new crewmate.
I suppose she could take on a dedicated guard role, in the vain of what Zoro was talking about guarding the ship with Brook.
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@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
The only thing stopping me from assuming Bonney will join are her powers. Having someone on the crew who can age and de-age everyone sounds like chaos. If those powers could be removed somehow, I would have to put Bonney at the top of my list for new crewmate.
I suppose she could take on a dedicated guard role, in the vain of what Zoro was talking about guarding the ship with Brook.
You know who would be good at the guard role, the guy who guarded there ship for two years
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
The only thing stopping me from assuming Bonney will join are her powers. Having someone on the crew who can age and de-age everyone sounds like chaos. If those powers could be removed somehow, I would have to put Bonney at the top of my list for new crewmate.
I suppose she could take on a dedicated guard role, in the vain of what Zoro was talking about guarding the ship with Brook.
You know who would be good at the guard role, the guy who guarded there ship for two years
Ah right, assuming his humanity is gotten back anyway. Of course people like Zoro and Franky have stayed behind on the ship before, but I suspect Oda had Zoro say what he said in light of the Sunny being on Franky's wanted poster, so now the whole world knows what Emperor Luffy's ship looks like.
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@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
The only thing stopping me from assuming Bonney will join are her powers. Having someone on the crew who can age and de-age everyone sounds like chaos. If those powers could be removed somehow, I would have to put Bonney at the top of my list for new crewmate.
I suppose she could take on a dedicated guard role, in the vain of what Zoro was talking about guarding the ship with Brook.
You know who would be good at the guard role, the guy who guarded there ship for two years
Ah right, assuming his humanity is gotten back anyway. Of course people like Zoro and Franky have stayed behind on the ship before, but I suspect Oda had Zoro say what he said in light of the Sunny being on Franky's wanted poster, so now the whole world knows what Emperor Luffy's ship looks like.
I mean both Zoro and Brook also made it known that someone needs to watch over the ship this chapter, so that could be Oda giving us a heads up like he usually does when we need a new crew member
Itās not much but itās the best weāve had in a long while
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
The only thing stopping me from assuming Bonney will join are her powers. Having someone on the crew who can age and de-age everyone sounds like chaos. If those powers could be removed somehow, I would have to put Bonney at the top of my list for new crewmate.
I suppose she could take on a dedicated guard role, in the vain of what Zoro was talking about guarding the ship with Brook.
You know who would be good at the guard role, the guy who guarded there ship for two years
Ah right, assuming his humanity is gotten back anyway. Of course people like Zoro and Franky have stayed behind on the ship before, but I suspect Oda had Zoro say what he said in light of the Sunny being on Franky's wanted poster, so now the whole world knows what Emperor Luffy's ship looks like.
I mean both Zoro and Brook also made it known that someone needs to watch over the ship this chapter, so that could be Oda giving us a heads up like he usually does when we need a new crew member
Itās not much but itās the best weāve had in a long while
I've heard the idea of a ship guard role dismissed because of how it takes crewmates out of the story, but seeing as how Zoro has done it and has played roles in arcs fine regardless, then I don't think it would be detrimental to have a crewmate take on a dedicated ship guard role after all. Zoro and Brook can always spring into action whenever they need to anytime, so I don't get the feeling they'll feel sidelined in this arc despite what they're doing.
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Brook and Zoro stayed on the ship in case something happens to the others, so that they could help them if neededā¦ has nothing to do with guarding the shipā¦
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shin10-Bukuro maybe they can take away her powers and give her Kumaās paw paw fruit
I donāt know man Iām just winging it
Sheād be even more powerful lol.
Unless Oda nerfs it and/or has haki be the reason why she canāt do a bunch of stuff like send enemies flying for 3 days or repel the pain away from all of her allies and give it to her enemies.
And thatās just what we know the ability can do. Theoretically it could do a lot more
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If anyone should guard the ship, it should be the ship itself. Have Vegapunk feed Sunny a Devil Fruit.
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@Zhenja said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Brook and Zoro stayed on the ship in case something happens to the others, so that they could help them if neededā¦ has nothing to do with guarding the shipā¦
Well, if this action canāt be called guarding, then Iām not sure what one could call it. Whatever the case, Iām sure it could fall into a full-fledged role like helmsman.
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@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Zhenja said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Brook and Zoro stayed on the ship in case something happens to the others, so that they could help them if neededā¦ has nothing to do with guarding the shipā¦
Well, if this action canāt be called guarding, then Iām not sure what one could call it. Whatever the case, Iām sure it could fall into a full-fledged role like helmsman.
Thatās not the official translation though, so it doesnāt matter.
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@Zhenja said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Zhenja said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Brook and Zoro stayed on the ship in case something happens to the others, so that they could help them if neededā¦ has nothing to do with guarding the shipā¦
Well, if this action canāt be called guarding, then Iām not sure what one could call it. Whatever the case, Iām sure it could fall into a full-fledged role like helmsman.
Thatās not the official translation though, so it doesnāt matter.
Hmm
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@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Hmm
lol, I totally ignored that small panel... but still that's just an exuse.
Their reason was in fact :
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@Zhenja said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Hmm
lol, I totally ignored that small panel... but still that's just an exuse.
Their reason was in fact :
So I suppose any crew role would fall into a āback-upā role. If not, then what could it be called, in light of what Zoro did and said along with Brook?
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My thoughts on the next crew mate.SW-3170-8630-8341
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@The-Light-of-Shandora said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
My thoughts on the next crew mate.Could you tell me this then: Did you say they same thing about Vivi and Jinbe when they refused Luffy back then?
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@The-Light-of-Shandora The picture is broken.
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A stag beetle isnāt joining the crew lol
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Vegapunk for next crewmate.
Although with Kuma presumably heading for Egghead, Dragon might tag along and Vegapunk would join him. Dragon is probably still poor in comparison, but the government now wants Vegapunk dead so too bad!
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@danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Vegapunk for next crewmate.
Although with Kuma presumably heading for Egghead, Dragon might tag along and Vegapunk would join him. Dragon is probably still poor in comparison, but the government now wants Vegapunk dead so too bad!
What happens to the other six Vegapunkās if he joins
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Are they also going to be bringing along Punk Records, too?
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@Johnny-B-Decent maybe Bonney, Kuma and Sentomaru can ride along as well
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Rather interesting to me about Luffy referring to Momo as strong and as a guardian deity of Wano. Kaido called Yamato that, but not Luffy, even though Luffy knows about how Momo fared against that Admiral. I wouldnāt even be mentioning all this if Luffy hadnāt of said that, because it really makes me wonder how soon Momo would be able to prove himself.
I suppose everything that's going for Momo already along with Vegapunk basically confirming that Momo can use hybrid forms and awaken his fruit like Kaido is Oda's way of getting us to look forward to Momo rising up despite that Admiral failure. Not only would Momo be rewarded for his strength by finally being able to hold down Wano, but also reward us for our patience with a new crewmate who'd presumably have enough purpose to finally leave Wano by then after Momo proves this to her, with a purpose that would also benefit Momo in the process.
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Now with Momo being the guardian of Wano. Yamato will join soon. Most likely at the same time as Carrot, if the latter finally will pop up from one of the barrels at the Sunny.
If not. Shirahoshi will pull Pluton with Yamato on top and Zunesha to the final war. Maybe Vivi will be there as well.
Fuck Momo and Kinemon
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If a character is joining, you can bet Oda would be:
- Introducing them sooner rather than later.
- Wasting no time getting them into panels with the rest of the crew.
- Tying them directly into a central plot thread.
I don't think Yamato or Carrot are candidates any longer for these reasons. Oda is at least intending to speed through the remainder of the manga, so if we're expecting another Nakama it should be someone central to an important plot thread.
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@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
If a character is joining, you can bet Oda would be:
- Introducing them sooner rather than later.
- Wasting no time getting them into panels with the rest of the crew.
- Tying them directly into a central plot thread.
I don't think Yamato or Carrot are candidates any longer for these reasons. Oda is at least intending to speed through the remainder of the manga, so if we're expecting another Nakama it should be someone central to an important plot thread.
So, would you say that the suggestion of Momo being set-up to eventually confront Yamato and prove to her that he can hold down Wano while she goes off looking for answers relating to the borders, Joy Boy, Pluton, etc. can't lead into anything important then?
I mean, if there's this wide agreement that the manga is being sped through so much that this series might end in 100 chapters or less, then we'd be sure to see more on Yamato sooner in light of Pluton and the borders being as important as they are to begin with, within the next two years I'd imagine. Makes sense, doesn't it?
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Iād really like to see Jewelry Bonney join the crew, I think sheās fun and interesting and has hit it off pretty damn well with the crew members sheās already met (and I canāt wait to see her reactions to Sanjiās cooking, and his reaction to her reaction)
She needs to have some other form of fighting though, age changing wouldnāt really make a whole lot of sense, but Oda could work around that
Really Iām just hesitant to go full on board for anyone after Yamato, I know some people still think heāll join but it still hurts
If we get a sad flashback and a dream Iāll be more on board
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@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
If a character is joining, you can bet Oda would be:
- Introducing them sooner rather than later.
- Wasting no time getting them into panels with the rest of the crew.
- Tying them directly into a central plot thread.
I don't think Yamato or Carrot are candidates any longer for these reasons. Oda is at least intending to speed through the remainder of the manga, so if we're expecting another Nakama it should be someone central to an important plot thread.
Totally made up guidelines that do not apply to other strawhats.
Jimbe and Robin come to mind immediately.
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Iād really like to see Jewelry Bonney join the crew, I think sheās fun and interesting and has hit it off pretty damn well with the crew members sheās already met (and I canāt wait to see her reactions to Sanjiās cooking, and his reaction to her reaction)
She needs to have some other form of fighting though, age changing wouldnāt really make a whole lot of sense, but Oda could work around that
Really Iām just hesitant to go full on board for anyone after Yamato, I know some people still think heāll join but it still hurts
If we get a sad flashback and a dream Iāll be more on board
Well to repeat once again, in addition to Jinbe repeatedly delaying joining up with Luffy, Vivi also refused Luffy back then and even now her fans are happy that sheās playing a role even now, so I donāt feel that bad in thinking Yamato join up with Luffy too, to help fulfill the dream of opening Wano for Joy Boy, despite what happened. Unless weāre meant to think Yamato is a tragic character who will be trapped on Wano because of Momo being a weakling of course.
As for Bonney, sheās def entertaining me in the meantime, with all the emotional richness Oda has been giving her. Canāt wait to see more.
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I think Yamato will tag along the crew aboard the Sunny for the Final War. She will represent Wano while Momo and the others protect the country. Not an official member, but someone very close to them
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@Chams-0 said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I think Yamato will tag along the crew aboard the Sunny for the Final War. She will represent Wano while Momo and the others protect the country. Not an official member, but someone very close to them
Why not as an āofficial memberā, exactly?
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I still think it would be cool if we got our last member through a Davy Back Fight
I donāt think it will happen but it would be cool
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Well......Hachinosu is where said Davy Back Fight was invented.
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@Johnny-B-Decent oh shit really! And arenāt the Straw Hats right near there? And Law and Coby might need saving
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I still think it would be cool if we got our last member through a Davy Back Fight
I donāt think it will happen but it would be cool
Maybe, though seeing as how the manga might end in less than 100 chapters, maybe it is too late for something like that after all, since Oda prob couldn't manage something good in a deadline like that anyway.
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@electricmastro I think we have waaaaay more than 100 chapters left
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro I think we have waaaaay more than 100 chapters left
Well, we are in the final saga endgame of course, and Oda is already rushing through things as is, if Wano's ending serves as evidence. I imagine we'd see Vivi in about the next 10 chapters at least since she's also a crucial character to the Straw Hats and by extension us.
Not sure if she'd physically fight alongside Luffy and the others in the final war, against Blackbeard and his captains, but the idea of Oda saying he had this idea of ending One Piece in three years couldn't have been said for nothing after all, so I'm interested in seeing where this goes.
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@electricmastro thereās to many plot threads, characters to meet, places to go and mysteries to unfold that could ever fit into 100 chapters
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro thereās to many plot threads, characters to meet, places to go and mysteries to unfold that could ever fit into 100 chapters
Seeing as Oda already let down and soured many people with how characters like Zoro, Carrot, Yamato, Hiyori, and the Scabbards were handled by the end of Wano, then I'm not sure why anyone should be willing to believe Oda will take his time at this point. We might be seeing Koby, Law, Blackbeard, and many others within the next 30 chapters and have their stories finished by next Summer for all I know, maybe even having Luffy's 10th person finally be with us by then. Not really keen on that, but I'll be seeing something interesting nonetheless I'm sure.
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Agree to disagree then
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Agree to disagree then
Agreement that Luffy's 10th person will be with us by next Summer? Well, we have that to look forward to then.
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@electricmastro I meant I disagree that the series only has 100 chapters left
I honestly have no idea when weāll get our final member but I hope itās soon, I would love for you to be right about Yamato joining
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro I meant I disagree that the series only has 100 chapters left
I honestly have no idea when weāll get our final member but I hope itās soon, I would love for you to be right about Yamato joining
Well, two likely reasons weād check back on Wano after Egghead would be either for Vegapunk to come on the Sunny and answer to Zoroās possible demand of curing the Wano Smiles, or Blackbeard confronting Yamato in order to get something, like Kaido and Big Momās devil fruits, so thus I wait to see how much Iāll be proven wrong after Egghead ends.
If Oda chooses not to go that route, then Iād figure that his biggest priorities to focus on right after Egghead would be to get Robin to see Saul and the Ohara books at Elbaf, and answer as to whatās going on with Vivi. Bonney was a witness at the Reverie and met up with Sabo, so sheād definitely factor in on Luffyās next course of action depending on way she knows and what could be done about helping Vivi out after her dad got killed.
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@Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Totally made up guidelines that do not apply to other strawhats.
Jimbe and Robin come to mind immediately.
Yes, exactly. You're basically helping to make my point for me.
A character joining so late in the series means they will have noticeably different circumstances than characters who have managed to get panel time for decades.
(Approx.) 200 or less chapters until the end is not a lot of time, and there's just so many massive plot threads waiting to be resolved...I think it's entirely fair to suggest that a new Crewmate is a tight fit in the first place, and the best way to implement it would be sooner (as that would give us more panel time with this main character), and tied into one of the major plot threads (efficiency).
What are your thoughts on the final Nakama?
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
So, would you say that the suggestion of Momo being set-up to eventually confront Yamato and prove to her that he can hold down Wano while she goes off looking for answers relating to the borders, Joy Boy, Pluton, etc. can't lead into anything important then?
I mean, if there's this wide agreement that the manga is being sped through so much that this series might end in 100 chapters or less, then we'd be sure to see more on Yamato sooner in light of Pluton and the borders being as important as they are to begin with, within the next two years I'd imagine. Makes sense, doesn't it?
It's possible. But I think Oda clearly meant to write Yamato not joining as a twist, and I don't think there's any deeper meaning to it. :\
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@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
A character joining so late in the series means they will have noticeably different circumstances than characters who have managed to get panel time for decades.
I agree.
I don't see a new character being introduced as a crewmate. If anyone is yet to join, it's a character we already know, one that won't need introductions, and whose motivations are deeply tied to the World Government because that's the big enemy ahead. It also must be a powerful character (thought how powerful is up to debate), so it also reinforces that it should be a known character and not someone no one ever heard before.
Bonney right now is the leading candidate, but, at least in my opinion, it doesn't feel like the story is going into that direction. I also have doubts about how entertaining her powers and fighting style can be beyond a gimmicky one-off "let's become children as a strategy" (I really think we will see the chibified crew at some point).
Beyond that, I'd guess one of those characters that could turn on the WG or already are against it and would seek Luffy. The odd ones, like Smoker or you-know-who-I've-been-campaigning-for-12-years, which we know will appear and have at least some significance at some point ahead.
