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      @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

      I think it all comes down to 3 simple options:

      1. There is no coveted "final nakama."At most, just someone who tags along during the final arc, as is often the case. (Something along the lines of a Law/Pedro/Momo/xyz etc...)

      2. There is a final nakama, and we've known about them all along for years! We just never knew they'd be the one to join.

      3. There is a final nakama, and it's a brand new character first introduced in Egghead or beyond.

      I wanted to quote my post from before to ask you all:

      Which of the 3 answers are you most interested in? What percentage chance would you assign to each category? What ideas do you have for each potential category?

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      I don't think the 3rd option is very likely to happen. Although I used to believe in it. But there is still some chance for it, so I would assign that about 10-15%.

      I think options #1 and #2 are both around 40% apiece. I prefer #2, but I find #1 to be a more practical answer.

      I also believe that, whatever ends up happening, it should begin to occur very soon. I don't expect another year to go by without additional confirmation in one direction or another. I believe there's around 200+ chapters left, and Oda needs to get the ball rolling on a final nakama (if there is one).

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        I think he'd be too hax. He's also got his place in the Revolutionary Army. The arc will probably end with Vegapunk and Bonney leaving together to go to the Revolutionaries (assuming they don't come to Egghead of course) to fix him, and the next we see of them will be when the Revolutionaries finally do something.

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          I'm surprised people aren't pushing for Bonney to join the crew. I guess it's largely because she's already an established character. She's free though- hasn't had a crew at all post time skip If I remember correctly. Has she just not clicked with people or are they just jaded?

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            I think people are jaded, especially after Yamato/Carrot.

            I do see a few people going for Bonney's candidacy in Twitter, but it has been pretty tame so far.

            Personally, it's impossible, but it's too early to make any guess right now. The (granted, very few) interactions so far have nothing out of the ordinary, IMO. I also feel that she's a character with finite purpose, as she's in this just to save her dad, and once she accomplishes it, she will seek him with the Revolutionaries.

            Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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              @Deicide Right. And what happens when the business with her dad is over? She joins the revolutionaries? Reunites with her crew? I'm not sure. Her character is in a weird place.

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                I'd guess she'd be with her father.

                But, of course, the story can still introduce a dream or objective beyond that, or maybe the quest to restore her father doesn't end in Egghead. There's still a lot of room for new revelations.

                Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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                  @danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                  I'm surprised people aren't pushing for Bonney to join the crew. I guess it's largely because she's already an established character. She's free though- hasn't had a crew at all post time skip If I remember correctly. Has she just not clicked with people or are they just jaded?

                  Well, I mentioned it, but I think the best way to sum it up is to say that it most likely depends on how much Bonney and Luffy need each other in each other's life.

                  Zoro and Luffy need each other.

                  Robin and Luffy need each other.

                  Jinbe and Luffy need each other.

                  etc., etc.,

                  If Bonney and Luffy really need each other more, then the story will have them together more, and then I'd expect them to be crewmates then.

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                    Where is Bonney's crew anyway? In Impel Down or did Akainu slaughter them?

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                      @Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                      I think it all comes down to 3 simple options:

                      1. There is no coveted "final nakama."At most, just someone who tags along during the final arc, as is often the case. (Something along the lines of a Law/Pedro/Momo/xyz etc...)

                      2. There is a final nakama, and we've known about them all along for years! We just never knew they'd be the one to join.

                      3. There is a final nakama, and it's a brand new character first introduced in Egghead or beyond.

                      I also believe that, whatever ends up happening, it should begin to occur very soon. I don't expect another year to go by without additional confirmation in one direction or another. I believe there's around 200+ chapters left, and Oda needs to get the ball rolling on a final nakama (if there is one).

                      I'd have to figure there will be one more crewmate joining after Jinbe, after what Oda said about "Luffy's crew of ten."

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                        Bonney is interacting with SHs outside of Luffy. Not enough, but it's what I was looking forward to with the guy from last arc.

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                          Wow, Luffy only called her Boggy twice... and now he's already at Bonney... if the next time he calls her by her name, I'm all in.

                          She's fun, she fits in well, she has a silly and a serious side. She will have a deeper connection with the Strawhats once they find out that Kuma is her father.
                          They will help her to restore him.
                          We will learn about her sad childhood, I can see Kuma becoming a revolutionary because of something the WG did to her... she did escape the WG after all...

                          She is a princess though... and they never join officially...

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                            I hope we get a deeper dive into Kuma, but I don't see him joining the crew though. For starters, he would need a much smaller body. Jinbei, Franky, and Brook are the height limit on that ship. lol He's been a part of the Revolutionaries forever and I don't see that changing.

                            I'm liking Bonney's interactions with Luffy. As far as her becoming a SH, I don't see it happening. Right now the only thing she has going for her is her design standouts amongst the crew. Everything else is too early to tell. Will she get a flashback? Probably. Does she have a dream beyond helping her father? Maybe. Role on the ship? Who knows. Her devil fruit is questionable to me as it is either really busted (can she turn the BB pirates into children?) or useless (it has no effect on the BB pirates). There might be more to her devil fruit than we currently know and she might be amazing at H2H combat. It's too early to tell. Two big strikes for me is her being a princess and a supernova, who were all last minute creations according to Oda. Maybe he was bending the truth about that, but I assume all members of the SHs were at least conceptualized at the very beginning. There is also the Luffy's Dream part as it makes zero sense for Luffy to tell the crew his dream right before someone joins on Egghead. That's just dumb writing. Bonney will join the Revolutionaries to be with her father and fight against the WG.

                            As far as who the 11th might be, I'm leaning more towards a known character than new. I mean, it's hard to say without knowing how much story is left or what islands we will visit, but the idea of Oda speed running a new character into being a SH at this point doesn't sound appealing to me. At least with a known character, the reader has already spent time with him/her. They just need those remaining boxes to be checked. Who knows, maybe we have a decade left then the idea of a new character joining doesn't sound so bad.

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                              @Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                              I hope we get a deeper dive into Kuma, but I don't see him joining the crew though. For starters, he would need a much smaller body. Jinbei, Franky, and Brook are the height limit on that ship.

                              That shouldn't be an issue anymore. An old theory of mine was that Kuma's mind wasn't wiped out completely but transfered into different body. And with what we've just learned in chapter 1,062 Vegapunk is not only able to do this theoretically but actually did this do himself. I have no doubts that Kuma's mind is somewhere at Egghead. The question is where?

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                                That could very well happen but right now it's only speculation that Kuma will get a new body. Vegapunk could transfer his mind into the Seraph Kuma for all we know, which would give him a new body and maintain his look.

                                The Seraph Kuma does look smaller so we'll see. I do think there are more issues than that when it comes to Kuma being a SH.

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                                  Oda loves his "parallels", so I expect Kuma's daughter will join Dragon's son for a bit after Egghead. Hopefully just for her to reunite with Kuma and Luffy to finally meet Dragon!

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                                    @danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                    Oda loves his "parallels", so I expect Kuma's daughter will join Dragon's son for a bit after Egghead. Hopefully just for her to reunite with Kuma and Luffy to finally meet Dragon!

                                    That's what I'm hoping for: Bonney is Luffy's gateway to meeting Dragon.

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                                      I think that's the whole reason why she thought about Sabo, but didn't want to bring it up now. When she does bring it up, the conclusion will be meeting with the Revolutionaries.

                                      I wonder if she maybe already has met Sabo when they were children...

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                                        @Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                        As far as who the 11th might be, I'm leaning more towards a known character than new. I mean, it's hard to say without knowing how much story is left or what islands we will visit, but the idea of Oda speed running a new character into being a SH at this point doesn't sound appealing to me. At least with a known character, the reader has already spent time with him/her. They just need those remaining boxes to be checked. Who knows, maybe we have a decade left then the idea of a new character joining doesn't sound so bad.

                                        Yeah, I think it really depends how much of the story people think is left, which kinda makes it hard to discuss the idea of new crew mates at this point. It’s fine if people think things like the series ending in like 50 chapters now. I think there’s no way Oda would even short change himself consider how much is left to tackle, but fine if people think that. That said, if they disagree with me or others about there being no time left or no one joining ever again, then I guess we have nothing left to discuss at that point.

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                                          @Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                          I hope we get a deeper dive into Kuma, but I don't see him joining the crew though. For starters, he would need a much smaller body. Jinbei, Franky, and Brook are the height limit on that ship. lol He's been a part of the Revolutionaries forever and I don't see that changing.

                                          I'm liking Bonney's interactions with Luffy. As far as her becoming a SH, I don't see it happening. Right now the only thing she has going for her is her design standouts amongst the crew. Everything else is too early to tell. Will she get a flashback? Probably. Does she have a dream beyond helping her father? Maybe. Role on the ship? Who knows. Her devil fruit is questionable to me as it is either really busted (can she turn the BB pirates into children?) or useless (it has no effect on the BB pirates). There might be more to her devil fruit than we currently know and she might be amazing at H2H combat. It's too early to tell. Two big strikes for me is her being a princess and a supernova, who were all last minute creations according to Oda. Maybe he was bending the truth about that, but I assume all members of the SHs were at least conceptualized at the very beginning. There is also the Luffy's Dream part as it makes zero sense for Luffy to tell the crew his dream right before someone joins on Egghead. That's just dumb writing. Bonney will join the Revolutionaries to be with her father and fight against the WG.

                                          Yeah, and of course there's the aspect of Bonney not getting to know Luffy's overall dream either. Getting her to know would help put her on the same page a little more in sync with Luffy and the others I'm sure.

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                                            @Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

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                                            That could very well happen but right now it's only speculation that Kuma will get a new body. Vegapunk could transfer his mind into the Seraph Kuma for all we know, which would give him a new body and maintain his look.

                                            Of course it's speculation. Everything in this thread is.

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                                              @Ivotas said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                              @Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

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                                              That could very well happen but right now it's only speculation that Kuma will get a new body. Vegapunk could transfer his mind into the Seraph Kuma for all we know, which would give him a new body and maintain his look.

                                              Of course it's speculation. Everything in this thread is.

                                              Then Kuma's height is still an issue until the story says otherwise.

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                                                @Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                @Ivotas said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                @Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

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                                                That could very well happen but right now it's only speculation that Kuma will get a new body. Vegapunk could transfer his mind into the Seraph Kuma for all we know, which would give him a new body and maintain his look.

                                                Of course it's speculation. Everything in this thread is.

                                                Then Kuma's height is still an issue until the story says otherwise.

                                                I wasn't proposing Kuma to join to begin with. Just that the high issue already having a possible workaround with what the story established. Kuma's mind is clearly is not in his own body anymore. But it's most likely around somewhere else.

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                                                  I agree with you about the possibility of him getting a smaller body. We just have to wait and see where the story goes.

                                                  I'm just pointing out an obvious issue with the info we currently have. There is definitely a doorway where that can change.

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                                                    The doorway issue was always a weird argument in the first place. One Piece has pulled so many ridiculous stunts in the decades it's been running and yet here we are acting as if the door is an actual issue.

                                                    That is not that I'm saying Kuma will join. I see no way how that is happening. I just think that we should be past the pointwhere we discuss the door.

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                                                      Well we can’t get past the door if the character can’t walk through it. lol

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                                                        So would Luffy also tell Kuma his overall dream by the end of Egghead so Kuma could also be in the know?

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                                                          We probably won’t see Luffy talk about his dream again until it’s time for the reader to know. Either he will dwell on it at the pre-war feast (Sphinx? Lodestar?) or yell it while he’s facing off with one of the remaining antagonist.

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                                                            @Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                            We probably won’t see Luffy talk about his dream again until it’s time for the reader to know. Either he will dwell on it at the pre-war feast (Sphinx? Lodestar?) or yell it while he’s facing off with one of the remaining antagonist.

                                                            I suppose Luffy would say it with clarity once he’s with all 10 recruits together at Laugh Tale, since I’m sure that’s when he would start really thinking about it after managing to get there.

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                                                              @Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                              Well we can’t get past the door if the character can’t walk through it. lol

                                                              The point I was making is that One Piece has already plenty of fantastic ways established on how the door doesn't have to be an issue at all. There already are ways how to work around it and Oda could always create more if he had to.

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                                                                @Ivotas said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                @Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                Well we can’t get past the door if the character can’t walk through it. lol

                                                                The point I was making is that One Piece has already plenty of fantastic ways established on how the door doesn't have to be an issue at all. There already are ways how to work around it and Oda could always create more if he had to.

                                                                I understand your point and I never said that it was an issue that can't be addressed.

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                                                                  Well I suppose Luffy and Bonney will become closer after Bonney broke down in tears over her lack of family.

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                                                                    All right, Luffy is at Bonney already. I'm in! 😶

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                                                                      @Zhenja said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                      All right, Luffy is at Bonney already. I'm in! 😶

                                                                      Luffy did actually drop “Bogey” in less than half a day.

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                                                                        Would it be bad for Dragon to show up in Egghead with Kuma in tow? I'm kinda hoping that happens... Luffy would finally meet Dragon and Kuma would be restored and reunited with Bonney!

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                                                                          @danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                          Would it be bad for Dragon to show up in Egghead with Kuma in tow? I'm kinda hoping that happens... Luffy would finally meet Dragon and Kuma would be restored and reunited with Bonney!

                                                                          I just don’t get the feeling Kuma’s mind can come back since Vegapunk would have mind to keep mind stable if he was really capable of that, but I’ll have to see.

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                                                                            @electricmastro I just find it hard to see Oda not giving Bonney a happy reunion with her dad... Maybe he won't be totally restored but at least he would recognize Bonney and have a will of his own!

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                                                                              @danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                              @electricmastro I just find it hard to see Oda not giving Bonney a happy reunion with her dad... Maybe he won't be totally restored but at least he would recognize Bonney and have a will of his own!

                                                                              Sure, though she shouldn’t just try to find happiness with her dad. I’m sure Luffy and the others would help make her happy even if they’re not Kuma.

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                                                                                @electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

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                                                                                @electricmastro I just find it hard to see Oda not giving Bonney a happy reunion with her dad... Maybe he won't be totally restored but at least he would recognize Bonney and have a will of his own!

                                                                                Sure, though she shouldn’t just try to find happiness with her dad. I’m sure Luffy and the others would help make her happy even if they’re not Kuma.

                                                                                Obviously. But her narrative right now is focused on her dad and won't move onto something else until it concludes! I think it's more likely that she joins the revolutionaries than the straw hat crew.

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                                                                                  I'd really like to show my support to Bonney or Kuma, as Next Straw Hat, but I just went all in on Yamato and lost, this time I'll just wait and see

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                                                                                    @Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                                    I'd really like to show my support to Bonney or Kuma, as Next Straw Hat, but I just went all in on Yamato and lost, this time I'll just wait and see

                                                                                    Mentioned this before, but I think Yamato really just needs to be impressed enough by Momo’s skills and more time to be ready before she stops feeling like she’d be abandoning Wano if she left it, seeing as how high she holds up Oden’s name.

                                                                                    Actually, in light of Blackbeard confronting Law for his poneglyph info, maybe this will show more soon too since Law could possibly end up running away with it. If Oda hadn’t of shown this, then I wouldn’t have said all this now either.

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                                                                                      Just go in with cautious optimism and you will be fine.

                                                                                      We just need to be prepared to be wrong. Winning or losing, we need to look good at doing it.

                                                                                      Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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                                                                                        All 3 princesses should join

                                                                                        Oni princess
                                                                                        Alabasta princess
                                                                                        Sorbet princess

                                                                                        That might as well be the straw hat 13.

                                                                                        Unless Gin shows up.

                                                                                        Crazy longshot theories not taken seriously.

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                                                                                          Didn't see Carrot this chapter. Didn't see Caribou either. I don't know about Caribou, but I think Carrot might join the SH crew.

                                                                                          Don't see anything to start on Bonney as of now.

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                                                                                            @Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                                            All 3 princesses should join

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                                                                                            That might as well be the straw hat 13.

                                                                                            Unless Gin shows up.

                                                                                            Crazy longshot theories not taken seriously.

                                                                                            Shirahoshi being "Mermaid Princess" and what Shinobu said actually makes me wonder how Yamato would fit in the bigger picture in light of her being "Oni Princess."

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                                                                                                "Sigh" I still want Yamato...he or she is cooler and I be like "tectectectec.... I wanna see her body!!!!"

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                                                                                                  @joekido-the-Second said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                                                  "Sigh" I still want Yamato...he or she is cooler and I be like "tectectectec.... I wanna see her body!!!!"

                                                                                                  Like I mentioned before, although I’m not the biggest fan of how Oda presented Yamato’s story, I think it makes the most sense when considering the idea that Momo is meant to be the one to inspire Yamato to go to sea, similar to cases like with Franky. She already seems closer to him than she did with Oden, Ushimaru, or Ace, so I don’t think I’m out of line to suggest this.

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                                                                                                    Let’s see, Kuma needs saving, probably has a sad past, has an interesting DF (2.9 also!) and is a rare race, and has saved the straw hats before

                                                                                                    I could see him joining, I mean he probably won’t but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did

                                                                                                    Although taking away pain and fatigue and sending people to other islands might be to OP

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                                                                                                      @Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

                                                                                                      Let’s see, Kuma needs saving, probably has a sad past, has an interesting DF (2.9 also!) and is a rare race, and has saved the straw hats before

                                                                                                      I could see him joining, I mean he probably won’t but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did

                                                                                                      Although taking away pain and fatigue and sending people to other islands might be to OP

                                                                                                      What do we want exactly when we mention "sad past" anyway? I've realized a lot of us often repeat that without ever really thinking what we want out of it beyond wanting to fit a pattern. I doubt it's just for fitting in with patterns, so what exactly do we mean by that anyway?

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                                                                                                        @electricmastro Just the usual, find a mentor, declare a dream and something ridiculously sad happens in there past

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