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    • Long John Silvers Rayleigh
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      @Kaptayn:

      There are so many characters in play and that's awesome, but I'm afraid they won't be used at full potential.

      They don't all need to be given a ton of screen time, just balanced well. I love paulie but him being MIA in the last 40 or so chapters of EL doesn't bring the arc down at all for me even though he was one of my favorite characters introduced in that saga, as long as the people in the forefront do their jobs we should be good.

      Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:

      So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?

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        @Blissed:

        Forget him, where is my dude Moriah lol

        Doing a Sushi diet. :ninja:

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          @S.C.:

          Doing a Sushi diet. :ninja:

          That actually would be really amusing if he returned looking more… impressive.

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            @Kaptayn:

            There are so many characters in play and that's awesome, but I'm afraid they won't be used at full potential.

            Maybe we should do a resume of all the people who may appear in the first post. I’m pretty sure the amount is astronomical 🙂

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              @Kdom:

              Maybe we should do a resume of all the people who may appear in the first post. I’m pretty sure the amount is astronomical 🙂

              Hope you like 🙂
              I will try to update it every week.

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                Hope you like 🙂
                I will try to update it every week.
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                woh, it's really great. Thanks.
                Do you think there is a place for a ' maybe we will see them' category for people like Mum or Moria

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                  and Weevil, and Strawhat fleet, and Gin(just in case)

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                    Marco, Weevil, and the rest of the WB Pirates will definitely become involved. I don't see any reason to think Gin is coming back though.

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                      And perhaps the Marines or BB.

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                        And perhaps the Marines or BB.

                        That’s quite unlikely after what was said during the reverie. Blackbeard too, we have no reason to see him so far

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                          As much as I'd like to see Moria and the strawhat fleet, I am gonna wait till there is any legit indication that they are in the country or intend to get there.

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                            As much as I'd like to see Moria and the strawhat fleet, I am gonna wait till there is any legit indication that they are in the country or intend to get there.

                            ((knocks door))

                            Hey sir, do you have a minute for our lord and savior Don Sai?

                            well, I'd say the battle/conflict will last several days, is obvious that the Mink are gonna do the Sulong thing, unless the fight starts at night or someone creates a false moon(sort of DBZ), the fight will keep going several days and nights, such as Jack vs The Minks at Zou.
                            The second thing, is the abrupt change from Lev Ely to a sudden entry in Wano, as others have mentioned it, we may be having both things happening simultaniously and at some point someone(if not Absalomon) will report that a considerable amount of Worst Gens and a growing up rebelious movement of Wano Kunias will clash sooner than later with all of Kaido's might.
                            such news reaching Sai and Leo with time, would allow them to rush their butts and aid Luffy.
                            plus I wouldn't find any other moment to consolidate The Strawhat fleet and give people(within the series) the impression that Luffy is a new 'Yonko' in the big game of piracy.

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                              @Monquito:

                              ((knocks door))

                              Hey sir, do you have a minute for our lord and savior Don Sai?

                              well, I'd say the battle/conflict will last several days, is obvious that the Mink are gonna do the Sulong thing, unless the fight starts at night or someone creates a false moon(sort of DBZ), the fight will keep going several days and nights, such as Jack vs The Minks at Zou.
                              The second thing, is the abrupt change from Lev Ely to a sudden entry in Wano, as others have mentioned it, we may be having both things happening simultaniously and at some point someone(if not Absalomon) will report that a considerable amount of Worst Gens and a growing up rebelious movement of Wano Kunias will clash sooner than later with all of Kaido's might.
                              such news reaching Sai and Leo with time, would allow them to rush their butts and aid Luffy.
                              plus I wouldn't find any other moment to consolidate The Strawhat fleet and give people(within the series) the impression that Luffy is a new 'Yonko' in the big game of piracy.

                              I love Sai and Baby 5 too.
                              But I am not sure if I want them to play a secondary role in the fight against Kaido or a primary role at the Lev Ely.

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                                I wonder if Wano doesn't kill the hype for the other incoming arcs. I mean that it's probably the last adventure arc we'll get with Elbaff. It seems like nothing can beat these two kingdoms in the NewWorld.
                                I don't think the emperors have very interesting territories compared to WCI, Elbaf and Wano. I mean that Shanks and Teach have only been seen on standard tropical islands so far, it looks like Bigmom is the only yonkou who has her own genuine country

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                                  ride to the moon hypes me a lot.

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                                    I'm still hoping for the Emerald City Bellamy mentioned.

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                                      I'm still hoping for the Emerald City Bellamy mentioned.

                                      Same. I'm hoping it'll at least be seen. A thing that kills this though is it's the exact name of a place from Alice in Wonderland as well, so unfortunately Bellamy may be referring to that as folklore. So maybe he was slightly breaking the fourth wall by mentioning it. I hope not though because I actually want to go there for a nice 20-50 chapters. 😛

                                      Croc or Enel would never.

                                      Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.

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                                        There is something weird from the theft of Ryuma. It happened 23 years ago, before Moria was broken by Kaido, or he had recruited Hogback to make zombies.

                                        We don't even know if he had the shadow fruit back then.

                                        I'm the first person that wants to see Moriah back again in the story, but right now, without confirmation of him being the thief of Ryuma's body, the link back to the main plot becomes shaky, as he would not know how to get into Wano, and has no reason besides an unknown number of years of vengance that he didn't consumate in that time, and is right now in a worse state than when he started.

                                        Maybe he was already collecting corpses before his fruit? Maybe he already had the fruit, and was starting to experiment on making zombies, and decided to wait with the good bodies until he got someone like Hogback? Maybe there is another reason?

                                        We are going to go through Ryuma's story, through Zoro and Brook (Zombies were made of a body and a shadow, that created a new personality that was almost always the shadow's, only exceptions were Cindry, who was shaken to the core by Chopper for a second, and Ryuma who acted more Ryuma-ish than Brook-ish during the battle, Lola keept some memories from Warthog Lola, some cross contamination Ryuma->Brook's Shadow->Brook could have happened)

                                        Thinking about it, Brook, did he know about the warlords? I am under the impression that the warlord system is a product of the great age of pirates, but if Brook knew about them.. I'll have to reread thriller bark.

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                                          Does anyone else want Kidd vs Apoo ?

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                                            Does anyone else want Kidd vs Apoo ?

                                            Any supernova against any other supernova would make me happy. Kidd vs Apoo has chances of happening since the two almost got in a fight on Sabaody. Would make for great foreshadowing.

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                                              Moriah will definitely show up. After all, Kaidou was first mentioned in context of Moriah's history during Moriah's own arc. I just hope Oda doesn't hand him the Bellamy card.

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                                                I am hoping to see quite a few great swords and supreme swords. I expect Zorro will acquire one supreme sword in this arc to finally complete his set of three, preferably Shodai Kitetsu.

                                                “When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it–always.”

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                                                  Im just hoping all the other supernova dont fall under luffy's lead willingly or admit he is much better than them. Many have stated the supernovas points arent rivals and are luffy's cheerleaders but I still want them to have rheir own ambition

                                                  Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:

                                                  So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?

                                                  H x H Chimera Ant Arc / OP Manga Spoiler

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                                                    Moriah probably took Oz Juinor's body after the Marineford war

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                                                    Im just hoping all the other supernova dont fall under luffy's lead willingly or admit he is much better than them. Many have stated the supernovas points arent rivals and are luffy's cheerleaders but I still want them to have rheir own ambition

                                                    After Kaido's downfall, Law will be a rival and possible enemy again imo
                                                    And so will the other supernovas

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                                                      woah, Oz Jr is dead!!

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                                                        @Nilitch:

                                                        Moriah probably took Oz Juinor's body after the Marineford war

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                                                        After Kaido's downfall, Law will be a rival and possible enemy again imo
                                                        And so will the other supernovas

                                                        They will all come to support Luffy eventually in the end, that's the most likely scenario i believe in.

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                                                          Do you think that Scotch is a headliner ?

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                                                            If someone like Sheepshad can be a headliner, then anyone can

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                                                              @RamistaR:

                                                              As much as I'd like to see Moria and the strawhat fleet, I am gonna wait till there is any legit indication that they are in the country or intend to get there.

                                                              Well having bm and kaido phone talk spoiled on newspaper should at least remove lack of information

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                                                                There will come a point in the story when there won't be any legit rivalry between Luffy and the other Supernovas, and I think Wano will go a long way to making that happen. Unless Oda has other Supernovas bring down Big Mom (which I heavily doubt), the other Supernovas will eventually recognize that the race to become Pirate King is narrowing down to just Luffy and Blackbeard.

                                                                I'm calling that Law will die in this arc. Have been for four years now. I just can't really imagine him going off on his own after Wano and operating independently of Luffy, especially since he's a D.

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                                                                  There will come a point in the story when there won't be any legit rivalry between Luffy and the other Supernovas, and I think Wano will go a long way to making that happen. Unless Oda has other Supernovas bring down Big Mom (which I heavily doubt), the other Supernovas will eventually recognize that the race to become Pirate King is narrowing down to just Luffy and Blackbeard.

                                                                  I'm calling that Law will die in this arc. Have been for four years now. I just can't really imagine him going off on his own after Wano and operating independently of Luffy, especially since he's a D.

                                                                  But how does law's original flashback fit into that? After what wg did to his country, he should help take them down. And Im may be the actual guy that former Ope ope user did the imm operation on so law will have to undo it.

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                                                                    @Kaido:

                                                                    There will come a point in the story when there won't be any legit rivalry between Luffy and the other Supernovas

                                                                    It as always been the case. And Right now Luffy is already worth 3 times more than the closest one. I think the difference is already clear.

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                                                                    I'm calling that Law will die in this arc. Have been for four years now. I just can't really imagine him going off on his own after Wano and operating independently of Luffy, especially since he's a D.

                                                                    Whitebeard had D under him. Luffy can do the same. And Doffly already said Luffy was superior thanks to having the haki of kings.

                                                                    Law will just happily sail away with his crew. HE already accomplish his most important goal.

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                                                                      It hasn't always been the case.

                                                                      Oda insisted on Luffy Law and Kidd standing together at the auction house. They are also the only ones that destroyed a Pacifista.
                                                                      Kidd picked fight with Big Mom during the time skip and was about to target Shanks.
                                                                      Only after Dressrosa Luffy had a bigger bounty than Kidd….and Kidd came across Kaido.

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                                                                        It as always been the case. And Right now Luffy is already worth 3 times more than the closest one. I think the difference is already clear.

                                                                        I wouldn't say that. Bege and his crew did a lot of the heavy lifting when it came to the Big Mom stuff, even if he may not have gotten as much credit for it, and the newspapers oversell what Luffy did. Not to undersell what actually happened, but imo Luffy will have to put some work into living up to this image before he can actually settle into a role where the other Supernovas won't compete with him.

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                                                                          I wouldn't say that. Bege and his crew did a lot of the heavy lifting when it came to the Big Mom stuff, even if he may not have gotten as much credit for it, and the newspapers oversell what Luffy did. Not to undersell what actually happened, but imo Luffy will have to put some work into living up to this image before he can actually settle into a role where the other Supernovas won't compete with him.

                                                                          It's not about strength It's about what they do.

                                                                          2 years ago Luffy did actions that challenged the world order we knew when the others had no such things just the big bounties.

                                                                          Now Luffy in 1 month will have done more than what the supernovas collectively done in 2 years in terms of upsetting the balance.

                                                                          They failed to prove anything could happen without Luffy. While Luffy has accomplished plenty regardless of the situation.

                                                                          There was a chance that could have been changed by having Kidd alliance take Big Mom and Luffy's alliance take Kaido but it didn't happen.

                                                                          Aa it stands I'm unsure why the readers would consider them rivals since they never did anything to prove they were but I'm happy Oda dropped the pretense and made clear the only real challenge comes from those already at the top(probably why Blackbeard is thrown in there also to give some water to the rival pretense).

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                                                                            Yet, besides Luffy, Urouge is the only other pirate known for defeating one of the highest weights on moma's crew.
                                                                            there's the payback war too, but well Marco no longer served a yonko and Teach is a worst gen anyway(not that we know how it all went but still)

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                                                                              Yet, besides Luffy, Urouge is the only other pirate known for defeating one of the highest weights on moma's crew.
                                                                              there's the payback war too, but well Marco no longer served a yonko and Teach is a worst gen anyway(not that we know how it all went but still)

                                                                              It's not as big but it's something. More of them should follow Urouge example and get away with it.

                                                                              Teach is the only doing something of Luffy's level and interestingly he is the only one that isn't of the supernovas.

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                                                                                It's not as big but it's something. More of them should follow Urouge example and get away with it.

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                                                                                Kid is likely going to, with two Calamities out there needing sum wipe-ass, the rest I'm unsure.

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                                                                                  Kid is likely going to, with two Calamities out there needing sum wipe-ass, the rest I'm unsure.

                                                                                  I don't care about his powerlevel. To prove he is a rival he would need to actually be able to do something by himself.

                                                                                  Urouge invaded Big Mom did a small but impactful dent and got to continue his adventures after and he didn't need Luffy for it.

                                                                                  Kidd? HE likes to talk big but just like the rest to do something he will need Luffy's assistance.

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                                                                                    I don't care about his powerlevel. To prove he is a rival he would need to actually be able to do something by himself.

                                                                                    Urouge invaded Big Mom did a small but impactful dent and got to continue his adventures after and he didn't need Luffy for it.

                                                                                    Kidd? HE likes to talk big but just like the rest to do something he will need Luffy's assistance.

                                                                                    getting screwed by Kaido wasn't his original plan, his plan was messing around with Shanks without* Luffy.

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                                                                                      getting screwed by Kaido wasn't his original plan, his plan was messing around with Shanks without* Luffy.

                                                                                      Which he failed to do. Or do you think he is actually going to get to take down Shanks when all this is over?

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                                                                                        Which he failed to do. Or do you think he is actually going to get to take down Shanks when all this is over?

                                                                                        not, but he's not either to just fight Sheepshead.
                                                                                        he's much into Calamities and prolly helping Luffy a bit with Kaido.
                                                                                        much similar to Law defeating Vergo and Trebol, and giving Luffy a hand with Doula Mongo.

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                                                                                          Kid is going to not fall around to luffy's side after Wano. I bet he's the guy who would say I'll kill you the next time I see you and be 100% serious about meaning it.

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                                                                                              not, but he's not either to just fight Sheepshead.
                                                                                              he's much into Calamities and prolly helping Luffy a bit with Kaido.
                                                                                              much similar to Law defeating Vergo and Trebol, and giving Luffy a hand with Doula Mongo.

                                                                                              And my point was if they are to be Luffy's rival they should be able to accomplish things without his help. Whoever Kidd beats it will be while cooperating with Luffy rather than accomplishing it by himself(by that I mean without Luffy involved in the incident).

                                                                                              I mentionned Urouge because he did it without having Luffy involved not because he beat a commander. Again It's not about power level.

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                                                                                              Kid is going to not fall around to luffy's side after Wano. I bet he's the guy who would say I'll kill you the next time I see you and be 100% serious about meaning it.

                                                                                              He always had a big mouth and a bit desperate for attention.

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                                                                                                Which he failed to do. Or do you think he is actually going to get to take down Shanks when all this is over?

                                                                                                Oh man, I know this is never going to happen, but imagine if Kidd had come up with some sort of sneaky, surefire way to defeat Shanks before Kaido dropped in on his alliance, and at the end of Wano, Blackbeard comes in and captures or offers a position of power to Kidd…

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                                                                                                  Oh man, I know this is never going to happen, but imagine if Kidd had come up with some sort of sneaky, surefire way to defeat Shanks before Kaido dropped in on his alliance, and at the end of Wano, Blackbeard comes in and captures or offers a position of power to Kidd…

                                                                                                  I think Urouge would fit the Blackbeards great.

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                                                                                                    I think Urouge would fit the Blackbeards great.

                                                                                                    I dunno…he doesn't look too quick on his feet. Hard to sneak up on people and/or run away when all your muscle is concentrated in your upper body.

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                                                                                                      I dunno…he doesn't look too quick on his feet. Hard to sneak up on people and/or run away when all your muscle is concentrated in your upper body.

                                                                                                      Have you seen Champion? e's 90% upper body.

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                                                                                                        I think Urouge would fit the Blackbeards great.

                                                                                                        I agree. But as a cabin Boy or the Job Coby had on Alvida's ship back then. 😉
                                                                                                        Urouge definetly will Play a role once Enel has returned from the moon (or the plot moves to the space, whatever happens first).

                                                                                                        There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                                                                                                        But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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