Can someone explain me the panel where Brulee said "no just Pound"
is there a deeper reason for it
She doesn't think of him as her step father anymore, since he's now on BM's hit list. Nothing more.
Can someone explain me the panel where Brulee said "no just Pound"
is there a deeper reason for it
She doesn't think of him as her step father anymore, since he's now on BM's hit list. Nothing more.
Really nice chapter.
Dat Urouge hype
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Can someone explain me the panel where Brulee said "no just Pound"is there a deeper reason for it
Due to Big Mom disinterest with anyone not in her family, she denounce her husbands which her children has learned to do.
Luffy didn't exactly get the chance to fight Rayleigh because his haki is so advanced that he simply predicts all of Luffy's attacks or uses his haki force fields to push him away, most of Luffy's training was just fighting those monstrous animals and once he was able to do so with relative ease Rayleigh up and left him to train on his own. It's true when he says Cracker has the toughest CoA thus far, who else has he actually fought that would have such strong armament?
Anyway, as much as I want to say Cracker is down and out for the count it's pretty clear that he didn't expect Luffy's punch to do THAT to him. Hopefully he's not just a tank and strike back type of fighter and shows some mobility in the way of evading otherwise, yeah, he's royally screwed because he's already gasping for air and Luffy won't make the same mistake he did with Doffy where he didn't outright finish within the time limit. I expect Brulee to warp Cracker into her mirror world and flee when this fight carries on into next chapter.
Seriously though, don't ever talk shit about Luffy's crew because he will finish you!!! This chapter was so hype!
is this translation right ?!! or as sandman mention in spoiler thread luffy just surprised !!?
Can someone explain me the panel where Brulee said "no just Pound"
is there a deeper reason for it
Well I guess that's because Brulee starts by calling him step-father and then realizes that big mom wanted him dead so she doesnt consider him as a step father anymore.
Really nice chapter.
Dat Urouge hype
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Can someone explain me the panel where Brulee said "no just Pound"is there a deeper reason for it
naja, sie sieht ihn nicht mehr als Stiefvater, deswegen korrigiert sie sich und nennt ihn nur beim namen.
@John:
wtf Urouge. who did train you these 2years ? but does that mean he killed one of BigMom's commanders ? doubt she would kill a subordinate she because he lost…
so gear4 is the new gear2. but have absolutely no idea if he just one-shot Cracker or not. he dropped his strongest attack we know so far and just broke Cracker's haki.
well,his devil fruit translates damage into power,that means that he gets the more powerful the more his opponent is storng,as long as he does not straight KO him before he can translate the damage
on that regard..did brulee said that the "body" of the ex fourth commander might still be in the seducing woods?does this mean luffy has a new potential ally?if not it seems like a strange thing to make brulee say,if it's not gonna have an impact in the story
or was she talking about urouge?but we know he is not there,he was with kaidou a couple of days ago…
naja, sie sieht ihn nicht mehr als Stiefvater, deswegen korrigiert sie sich und nennt ihn nur beim namen.
Does Kishido speak German or something? I'm surprised I can understand what you wrote, "she no longer sees him as a stepfather…that's why she quickly corrects herself" something like that lol
OK thanks guys… And Zhenja. Please not in german on an thread
He's with Hydra :ninja:
well,his devil fruit translates damage into power,that means that he gets the more powerful the more his opponent is storng,as long as he does not straight KO him before he can translate the damage
on that regard..did brulee said that the "body" of the ex fourth commander might still be in the seducing woods?does this mean luffy has a new potential ally?if not it seems like a strange thing to make brulee say,if it's not gonna have an impact in the story
or was she talking about urouge?but we know he is not there,he was with kaidou a couple of days ago…
Rather the latter. Brulee doesn't know he survived
Luffy's Haki has improved greatly.
Liked the action in this chapter. Don't think Cracker is down for the count, and Luffy activating Gear Fourth is definitely gonna screw him over in the long run regardless of whether or not he wins.
Also, Urouge is a beast.
well,his devil fruit translates damage into power,that means that he gets the more powerful the more his opponent is storng,as long as he does not straight KO him before he can translate the damage
yeah but it doesn't enhances his haki, or maybe it does… like Luffy's gear4, maybe he has something too. who knows.
Awesome chapter.
I found nothing about Brulee's speech forced, and despite the dialogue there being lengthy (which is welcome to me), her seemingly torturous nature fits her perfectly to make a long-winded speech about how they have no hope. While doing so we get an unexpected Supernova being more powerful than some of us expected.
It was indeed unexpected how quick Luffy went to Gear 4. Not sure if it's supposed to be implied that he took a bit to transform off-panel, or if he went directly into it like we saw. Like we no longer see him do the "rev-up" for Gear 2 (the stance) except when we have time for it like Don Chinjao. It's possible that Oda wants to only draw those types of panels when he can add a twist to them now, for example Luffy had the mustache & helmet & cape on for that Don Chinjao G2.
As it stands Luffy is hopelessly out classed by Kaido. He's gonna have to push it up a few levels if he's to stand a chance against him/…....
We know Luffy gets more powerful with fights, at this point, his Haki will get stronger. At fishman Island which is like a month ago, Hody bit through him, now he's taking blades from a Yonkou commander. By the time he gets to Kaidou, his haki will have improved immensely. That said, the fight will still almost take his life.
Now I'm even more convinced Urouge is with BB. Owning off panel and stuff. :ninja:
Glad Luffy had to exert himself to send this guy flying. His multiple limbs give him versatility and good range and coverage, but I doubt he could measure with Dofla.
Great chapter a lot of new info AND THE RED HAIR PIRATES. Oda isn't showing them just for nothing, they'll probably be invovled somehow soon. Luffy has to go all out on a Cracker seems like a great fight in the sense that yonko's shouldn't be underestimated. I'll reserve final criticism in terms of ranking of power and the pacing of the new world arcs in villain strength progression till end of arc.
My theory still stands, the fact that luffy is struggling with Cracker just means that they won't fight Big Mom. He'll defeat cracker and they do something to either sneak Sanji away or Big Mom allows Jimbei and Sanji to leave (lola's card might play if latter happens).
@Clay:
Awesome chapter.
I found nothing about Brulee's speech forced, and despite the dialogue there being lengthy (which is welcome to me), her seemingly torturous nature fits her perfectly to make a long-winded speech about how they have no hope. While doing so we get an unexpected Supernova being more powerful than some of us expected.
It was indeed unexpected how quick Luffy went to Gear 4. Not sure if it's supposed to be implied that he took a bit to transform off-panel, or if he went directly into it like we saw. Like we no longer see him do the "rev-up" for Gear 2 (the stance) except when we have time for it like Don Chinjao.
There was a panel with steam or dust. You know Luffy always look silly to his opponents when he's doing those transformations. Cracker is obviously standing there be like wtf?
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Now I'm even more convinced Urouge is with BB. Owning off panel and stuff. :ninja:
Glad Luffy had to exert himself to send this guy flying. His multiple limbs give him versatility and good range and coverage, but I doubt he could measure with Dofla.
Nah, never. Not close to Mingo one bit.
Great chapter a lot of new info AND THE RED HAIR PIRATES. Oda isn't showing them just for nothing, they'll probably be invovled somehow soon. Luffy has to go all out on a Cracker seems like a great fight in the sense that yonko's shouldn't be underestimated. I'll reserve final criticism in terms of ranking of power and the pacing of the new world arcs in villain strength progression till end of arc.
My theory still stands, the fact that luffy is struggling with Cracker just means that they won't fight Big Mom. He'll defeat cracker and they do something to either sneak Sanji away or Big Mom allows Jimbei and Sanji to leave (lola's card might play if latter happens).
They better take pound with them or he's screwed :(
We know Luffy gets more powerful with fights, at this point, his Haki will get stronger. At fishman Island which is like a month ago, Hody bit through him, now he's taking blades from a Yonkou commander. By the time he gets to Kaidou, his haki will have improved immensely. That said, the fight will still almost take his life.
or we can also call it bad writing. this chapter just proved that Luffy could have ended Doflamingo in a single double-page, but hell no, he didn't because Bellamy bullshit and other shit and shit and shit.
@John:
or we can also call it bad writing. this chapter just proved that Luffy could have ended Doflamingo in a single double-page, but hell no, he didn't because Bellamy bullshit and other shit and shit and shit.
i call it both bad writing and he got stronger. Bad writing since we know now he had gear fourth. I'm sure cracker's sword swing is stronger than hody's bite. Sanji's probably got stronger too since he could deflect the spear point of his father's attack.
@John:
or we can also call it bad writing. this chapter just proved that Luffy could have ended Doflamingo in a single double-page, but hell no, he didn't because Bellamy bullshit and other shit and shit and shit.
This chapter did not prove that. He used Kong Gun here, which is what he used to knock Doflamingo into the inner city of Dressrosa. Doflamingo got up quickly from that after guarding.
There was a panel with steam or dust. You know Luffy always look silly to his opponents when he's doing those transformations. Cracker is obviously standing there be like wtf
Ah yeah, I see that now. So it's implied on-panel from that small panel with the steam, didn't even notice it at first. And then yeah we see Cracker's taken aback expression. Cool. That's at least something. So that means he didn't instantly go into it.
@John:
or we can also call it bad writing. this chapter just proved that Luffy could have ended Doflamingo in a single double-page, but hell no, he didn't because Bellamy bullshit and other shit and shit and shit.
I don't understand what you're saying but Mingo took 4 attacks from G4 and the 4th one was with both hands, then a 5th attack of King Kong Gun which was extra powerful. How do you expect all that to be a double page?
I don't understand what you're saying but Mingo took 4 attacks from G4 and the 4th one was with both hands, then a 5th attack of King Kong Gun which was extra powerful. How do you expect all that to be a double page?
To be honest, if Luffy attacked Doflamingo with an overhead King Kong Gun right off the bat, it would have been over at that point. But it's the introductory chapters for Gear 4 and devil fruit awakening, so we need to have a long fight for the narrative… and some drama.
Luffy's Haki has improved greatly.
If we compare those two scenes
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/790/8
with this scene
http://mangastream.com/r/one_piece/837/3627/8
with keeping in mind that Cracker CoA was hinted to be stronger than Doflamingos then yeah you seem to be right, Luffys haki improved a bit as he is not coughing blood now and there is no piercing sound effect present on panel
with keeping in mind that Cracker CoA was hinted to be stronger than Doflamingos then yeah you seem to be right, Luffys haki improved a bit as he is not coughing blood now and there is no piercing sound effect present on panel
I don't think it's hinted, I think it's outright said that this is the strongest CoA he's faced.
cracker reminds me of sundowner from MGR
with the triple shield pounding and stuff..am i the only one?
To be honest, if Luffy attacked Doflamingo with an overhead King Kong Gun right off the bat, it would have been over at that point. But it's the introductory chapters for Gear 4 and devil fruit awakening, so we need to have a long fight for the narrative… and some drama.
There's nothing to say that hitting Doflamingo with King Kong Gun right then and there would have taken him out. Plus Luffy is not going to pull out his most powerful move, the one that can tear apart an entire island, immediately, that's just bad writing.
…and are people really thinking that Cracker is defeated? He was sent flying a few yards while Doflamingo was sent across an entire island.
I don't think it's hinted, I think it's outright said that this is the strongest CoA he's faced.
He trained 1,5year with Rayleigh so I guess that includes also him.
Any bets on what happaned to 4th sweet commander ? Best theory here yet was that he was samurai who after loosing commited suicide!
There seems to be a lot of confusion between Kong Gun and King Kong Gun…
Great chapter, loved the fight with Cracker.
Gear Fourth definitely feels like the new Gear Second. Luffy definitely has something else up his sleeve beyond everything we've seen him from thus far.
Crackers going to get up having taken nasty damage, and is probably going to go all out. Luffy should take it in the end.
Oh man, this chapter was awesome! Cracker sure is one tough mofo, even tough enough to push Luffy into using Gear 4 at the end! Also, notice that when he blocked Luffy's Elephant gun with Busoshoku Haki, he used the Koka (Hardening) variant. Then, when he used Busoshoku Haki to block Luffy's Hawk gatling, he used the basic invisible version despite Luffy's attack using the Hardening version. I just thought it would be something interesting to point out.
Anyway, now I'm truly looking forward to the rest of the fight! :D
To be honest, if Luffy attacked Doflamingo with an overhead King Kong Gun right off the bat, it would have been over at that point. But it's the introductory chapters for Gear 4 and devil fruit awakening, so we need to have a long fight for the narrative… and some drama.
Have you ever played League of Legends? Garen's R deals a lot of damage but if you use it on a full health champion it is essentially useless, at the point it is generally regarded as a noob move, since he just tanks it and runs away. However, it is GREAT when the enemy champ has less than 25-30% health. Now, if using "Luffy's R" (King Kong Gun) requires a lot of energy and exhaustes him, I'm sure you can see why he had to wait to use it.
See my point?
Stepfather? So maybe Pound at one point was considered the father of some of Big Mom's children but a stepfather to the rest due to him saying that she is his ex-wife but something happened with how many kids he gave her so he was banished. We'll probably hear about what happened somewhere in this arc but anyways, this was another good chapter and it was interesting to see Luffy use Fourth Gear again.
Great chapter a lot of new info AND THE RED HAIR PIRATES. Oda isn't showing them just for nothing, they'll probably be invovled somehow soon.
My money is on them searching the ruins of Bartigo. Shanks had been keeping tabs on Blackbeard even before the Summit War, so it wouldn't be much of a surprise if we was still at it. I'm hoping we will hear from them again when Oda decides to reveal what went down between the BB pirates and revs.
On Luffy vs Cracker, overall I'm enjoying their fight which shows some nice choregraphy and an exchange of blows that carry some good weight. However, Luffy's Nakama-triggered-seriousness is a bit of a letdown this far into the New World. I'm not buying the puff-of-smoke-insta-G4 turnaround either. There could have been a dozen more plausible ways for Luffy to escape that shield weighing down on him.
Stepfathet? So maybe Pound at one point was considered the father of some of Big Mom's children but a stepfather to the rest due to him saying that she is his ex-wife but something happened with how many kids he gave her so he was banished. We'll probably hear about what happened somewhere in this arc but anyways, this was another good chapter and if was interesting to see Luffy use Fourth Gear again.
He only fathered Chiffon and Lola, meaning the other children had different fathers, making him their stepfather.
If we compare those two scenes
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/790/8
with this scene
http://mangastream.com/r/one_piece/837/3627/8with keeping in mind that Cracker CoA was hinted to be stronger than Doflamingos then yeah you seem to be right, Luffys haki improved a bit as he is not coughing blood now and there is no piercing sound effect present on panel
There's also this "haki supply" to consider. Maybe at that time of the fight against Doflamingo, Luffy had less haki left than he has now.
I don't think it's hinted, I think it's outright said that this is the strongest CoA he's faced.
It´s a mistranslation
Considering how much he fought that day, I wouldn't be surprised that his haki was already low in the Doffy fight.
@Kaido:
Liked the action in this chapter. Don't think Cracker is down for the count, and Luffy activating Gear Fourth is definitely gonna screw him over in the long run regardless of whether or not he wins.
Also, Urouge is a beast.
Why ? Now that it has been revealed, gear 4 will be used everytime he encounter a strong opponent. The same way he had to use gear 2 then gear 3.
Proud of my boy Urouge! However, what's interesting to me is that Kaido didn't do anything to him when he saw him in the sky. It's funny, because with everyone mentioning how hard it is to see a Yonkou up close, Urouge was just chilling and so happened to see him.
@Kaido:
There's nothing to say that hitting Doflamingo with King Kong Gun right then and there would have taken him out. Plus Luffy is not going to pull out his most powerful move, the one that can tear apart an entire island, immediately, that's just bad writing.
…and are people really thinking that Cracker is defeated? He was sent flying a few yards while Doflamingo was sent across an entire island.
And how many times have we seen a weapon user continue fight after their weapon is broken?
Well if he is not defeated now, he will be soon. There is little interest in him not being defeated.
There's also this "haki supply" to consider. Maybe at that time of the fight against Doflamingo, Luffy had less haki left than he has now.
I also thought about it. Perhaps being drained out of stamina and wounded can also limit using haki. We see that Whitebeard was unable to use CoC during Marineford to save Ace. There were some panels.
Haki seems to put physical and mental health onto person using it so maybe it is affected by physical and mental state of person or gets harder to use.
And how many times have we seen a weapon user continue fight after their weapon is broken?
well, just the shield is broken, the sword seems ok….
The red hair pirates are so damn smexy…
No homo.
Ps. Hope cracker is down.dnt u dare oda give luffy a hard time with a commander.he needs to take kaidou head on the next arc..
Not that anyone cares, but all the work of trying to determine an exact comparison between Cracker and Doffy and Luffy based how they handled G4 is completely misplaced. Watch a handful of real life fights (boxing or UFC) and you realize how each fight stands alone. Holm > Rousey > Tate > Holm, what does that mean? Or even look at a rematch - the two MacGregor/Diaz fights were completely different.
Ok, now we can go on with the discussion anyway. Cracker's Haki is 128% as strong as Raleigh, but he is only 82% as strong as Doffy overall. Anyone who disagrees with these facts is merely stating an opinion.