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    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part II: Do the Dio Walk!

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    • AfroSamurai
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      I don't understand how anyone can not like this part after last chapter's fight ended with dude getting run over by a bus dressed like a person! And epic stag beetle fights! And did you see that parfait?

      This part probably works best as a complete picture but I'm finding the characters engaging enough and I don't feel the plot is as sporadic at this point, things are starting to connect more and more with the stone men and the fruits. This new character is there to tie in Josuke and Kira into that probably. It's not my favorite part but it's fun enough.

      I agree that stag beetle battle and parfait were godly. Same for "your stand is like your asshole".

      But the problem for me is that I just can't seem to follow what's going on. I feel like i should be able to. There's a ton of things going on and enough clues that i should be able to tie things together and understand what's going on, more or less (think toriko's mysteries with Acacia and the Nitro. That's a mystery done well). But somehow, it's all explained in such an odd and convoluted fashion that it just confuses you more. And the battles between each new clue don't help the momentum.

      Don't get me wrong, i love araki and the weirdness factor but… i just can't get behind this part. To each their own i guess. I'll keep following it and hopefully it'll get good.

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        Except Part 2, which is God Enel Tier.

        4>3>7>2>5>6> 1

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          I don't understand how anyone can not like this part after last chapter's fight ended with dude getting run over by a bus dressed like a person! And epic stag beetle fights! And did you see that parfait?

          This part probably works best as a complete picture but I'm finding the characters engaging enough and I don't feel the plot is as sporadic at this point, things are starting to connect more and more with the stone men and the fruits. This new character is there to tie in Josuke and Kira into that probably. It's not my favorite part but it's fun enough.

          Guy run over by a bus is a great example of Jojolion and what I feel of it. He was this paranoid guy whose girlfriend cheated on him while he was petrified under his bed while she was doing it. . .a flashback that came out of nowhere (and told us little about the man, if anything) while he was throwing ¿stones? ¿his shoes? at some birds that just shat on him, right after he had delivered a fruit that let a grandpa screw his wife in a car while losing his eyes. Hey, it's fucking bizarre, what do you know? Probably the most bizarre Araki has ever been. But it's also sooooo fucking ugly and tasteless. I find myself constantly asking Araki's sanity, but I'm no longer sure I'm doing it in a good, "oh you crazy bastard!" way anymore. More like "really, Araki, did we REALLY have to see THIS?".

          And Araki just keeps running this mistery but. . .are we sure he's going in the right direction? He's been adding so many things, so many "keys" to the plot that I'm not even sure he's keeping all this stuff in his notes. Remember we even had a direct link with SBR and the corpse? Yeah, that feels like a millenia ago, what of that? What about the wall eyes? That place where you mix people and things and. . .that? Stone disease? The Higashikatas secrets? The buttler? The mom? There's just SO much stuff to take care of that every time Araki comes up with MORE stuff to keep up with it just dazes me. And, sorry, but I don't think he has the writing chops to make everything fall perfectly into place, and he's built the entire arc so it all NEEDS to fall perfectly into place. First Morioh was about monster of the week, fuck consistency and overall plot, second Morioh is all plot consistency and yet it doesn't feel consistent so far. First Morioh wins so far by a landslide.

          And while the parfait was great, I. . .did not enjoy the beetle fight. I liked the first fight with the snakes and razors and shit, and the one with the motorbike stand was probably the best, but trouble with the curve wasn't even remotely decent, and the fight against Rock Guy 1 was also kinda weak. So even if you say "just let yourself go and enjoy what Araki is really good at", even those elements I'm not finding as good. This last fight with Rock Guy 2 was ok, but beyond its conclusion it wasn't thaaat good.

          And finally, most of the secondary cast ranges from unmemorable to simply fucking disgusting, specially that fucker, forgot his name, the "rival" guy that's also disgustingly and creepily in love with Yasuho. Holy shit, from his design to his personality, this guy is a fucking abortion of a character. That face, that fucking face. His dialogues. His reactions. His behaviour. I loathe him with every fiber of my body.

          I guess I'm being overly negative with Jojolion and it's not even bad, it's decent, but man, it's JoJo and I want to enjoy it more, I want to get into the bizarreness, to embrace it, not get alienated by it.

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          4>3>7>2>5>6> 1

          2> 4>7=3>5=6>1

          I'm extremely tempted to put 3 above 7 considering I enjoyed it more, but I know 7 is just. . .better. The art, the writing, the different situations, the flow. . .I just had a personal problem getting into its world and its setting, I found some of the fights confusing and not loving Valentine as much plays a big part in its enjoyment. Climax was so good, though. 3 receives tons of flack, but it still has the most charismatic group of protagonists and some incredibly iconic and memorable moments. 5 has Italy wankery all over it, that sells it for me. And the fucking train fight. 6 is somewhat unpleasant, fights are 50/50 with some being great, others okish and others simply bad (Jongalli A, hello?) and the cast is ok but not great, but there's this jaded, fucked up feeling that makes it both a downer and refreshingly different at the same time, which is. . .good?

          But 2 is just beastly. I will never be able to top the definition someone gave it, "Indiana Jones on fucking steroids". The writing is less than stellar, who fucking cares? Every set piece is memorable. Every Joseph scene is memorable. Every pose is memorable. It comes in a tight package. And it's just 25 tons of fun. It's simply one of my favorite things in the entire manga world. It's entertaining to the point of exhilaration, and nothing in the rest of this great series comes close to it.

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            I'm enjoying it fine but I can feel you if it's going too weird even for you. I'm liking the fights but nothing has been super wow level so far. Hopefully, once we see the whole picture and get a sweet pay off with Pillar Men with Stands (cross fingers), you'll find the whole package worth it.

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            But 2 is just beastly. I will never be able to top the definition someone gave it, "Indiana Jones on fucking steroids". The writing is less than stellar, who fucking cares? Every set piece is memorable. Every Joseph scene is memorable. Every pose is memorable. It comes in a tight package. And it's just 25 tons of fun. It's simply one of my favorite things in the entire manga world. It's entertaining to the point of exhilaration, and nothing in the rest of this great series comes close to it.

            Part 4 has Kira and Highway Star, hard to compete against that.

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            I'm extremely tempted to put 3 above 7 considering I enjoyed it more, but I know 7 is just. . .better. The art, the writing, the different situations, the flow. . .I just had a personal problem getting into its world and its setting, I found some of the fights confusing and not loving Valentine as much plays a big part in its enjoyment.

            Why do you hate America, kouch?

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              Steel Ball Run will make you believe in America again.

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                Steel Ball Run will make you believe in the Tennis Ball and napkins again.

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                  Finished the first two Jojonium volumes. Thoughts:

                  Volume 1 (Chap. 1-11) - To be honest, I really wasn't that enthralled by this series at the get-go. So Jojo (I will never be able to take that name seriously), a rich British kid is constantly tormented by Dio, a sociopathic kid (both of whom look like they're already adults, so I'm a little unsure about the age here) and no one else picks up on it because they're idiots. Then they grow up, somehow get even more muscular (seriously, what do they feed these kids?) and Dio puts his inherit-the-family-fortune plan into action. Jojo manages to expose his plan, but amidst the chaos, Dio gets the Stone Mask. Just…I dunno. The first several chapters are just really down-to-earth and I'm not sure it suits the story. I mean, even plot-wise, a lot of things that happen in these chapters don't seem to matter in the long-run. I mean, I know Araki had to establish Jojo and Dio's rivalry, but it feels like it could have been shortened. And I wish it had, especially since...

                  Volume 2 (Chap. 12-27) - Ah, no here's where the manga starts to shine. Forget all that conniving family drama stuff, the manga really picks up once Dio dawns the Stone Mask and all the crazy action and supernatural stuff starts happening. Honestly, it almost feels like Volume 1 and Volume 2 are two different series. But anyway, Dio becomes a vampire and all hell breaks loose. Jojo and Dio have their climactic battle, and I'm not even gonna question how the two of them seem to take this in relative stride, because it's honestly really great. Jojo impales Dio as the house burns down and it seems the story's coming to a close and all has been resolved, right? Nope! Turns out Dio's still alive and now Jojo must learn the ways of Hamon from easily one of the best characters so far, Zeppeli (yes, Speedwagon is great too). And really, I just love the way Hamon and the Stone Mask are explained. Both allow the user to enhance their strength from blood and whereas Jojo gets strength from within himself, Dio takes strength from others. It would have been so easy to dismiss it as supernatural mumbo jumbo, but Araki takes the time to really delve into it. Anyway, meanwhile, Dio takes over a town and recruits black-hearted villains to serve him, including Jack the Ripper (who, honestly, considering he's one of real life history's greatest villains, went out kind of disappointingly easily). Jojo and co. make it to the town, prove to be no match for Dio and then must face off against Bluford and Tarkus, two knights who served Mary Stuart (btw, I'm going to say that I don't think that whole backstory of theirs is historically accurate). And, well, let's just say I'm looking forward to how this all concludes in the next volume.

                  So….yeah, I'm diggin' it. The first arc has had its problems to be sure, but the insane action and art style go a long way to make up for it. And if the general consensus is that this is one of the weaker arcs in the series then, well, color me excited for the arcs to come.

                  [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
                  I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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                    Part 1 is a bit clumsy yeah, but it picks up with the whole "Bizarre" part hitting. And no, the history probably isn't completely right

                    Still one of the weaker parts all in all, but one where you get some great stuff like old style Dio, Zepelli, Speedwagon narration, it's just a very nice, contained story

                    And then Part 2 happens

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                      New chapter is out. Looks like we might finally get some new info on Josuke.

                      There is no hope for Fairy Tail

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                        Part 5 went down with Diavolo.

                        Doppio will always be the real part 5 villain in my heart.

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                        So, is the other part Joseph Joestar considering the Secchan thingy ? Does the petname only apply if the name starts with Se ?

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                          Steel Ball Run

                          ! You thought it was Jurassic World, but it was I, Dio!

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                            http://bato.to/read/_/322518/jojos-bizarre-adventure-part-8-jojolion_ch43_by_hi-wa-mata-noboru

                            Translator note just says it has to have 'se' in their name. But i would doubt it's joseph considering how old he would be at this time

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                              Oh man, new thread!

                              I had been posting in the last thread since I came here, as I was already a JoJo convert back then. Time flies like it's Made In Heaven.

                              Also, I feel that Davidpro is legally obligated to play this during an appropriate moment or two in the coming episodes:

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                                Steel Ball Run

                                ! You thought it was Jurassic World, but it was I, Dio!

                                Once you finish, you should probably post your part rankings.

                                Since it's a new thread:
                                4>2>3>Some bits of 5>7=6>1>5's other bits

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                                  Call me crazy, but she reminds me a lot of Giorno.

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                                    So assuming Jo2ke is half Joseph half Kira, can we assume the girl is alternate version Josuke's mother? Or maybe… this part's Lisa Lisa?

                                    Just linking black haired girls Joseph had relationships (friend, Mentor, affair or otherwise) with.

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                                      Just posting my ranking.
                                      I'll make some comments about Kouch's betrayal later

                                      4>7>2>6>5=3>1

                                      Every time I reread 5, i like it more though.
                                      It may eventually surpass 3, but 3 has an amazing cast, while 5 lacks in that.

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                                        Been doing some re-reading of Stone Ocean lately and while it does have a really slow start, when it gets good, it gets -really- good, might bump up my score by the time I'm done with it again.

                                        Anyway since all the cool kids are doing it:

                                        7>4>2>6>3>5>1

                                        Though I don't think there are any bad Parts, even the weakest parts of Phantom Blood are a lot more enjoyable when you have context for the rest of the series

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                                          The new girl in Jojolion is probably this universe's version of Yukako. She is in love with a main character, or so it seems, and her powers involve hair. Let's see how she develops in the following months.

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                                            4>7>3>2>5>1>6.

                                            In all seriousness, I think the main antagonists is the biggest factor that determines the quality of each part.

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                                                would have been so good

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                                                  After all the carnage he wrought, Polnareff just cherrytapping Vanilla Ice into the sunlight was a great way to finish the fight. Good on him for not flinching either when Dio appeared, normally his type of character has a bit more of a "oh crap" moment when confronted by the Big Bad under those circumstances.

                                                  had me laughing hard.

                                                  ~Stargazer~, ~Distance~ original stories.

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                                                    @AfroSamurai:

                                                    So assuming Jo2ke is half Joseph half Kira, can we assume the girl is alternate version Josuke's mother? Or maybe… this part's Lisa Lisa?

                                                    Just linking black haired girls Joseph had relationships (friend, Mentor, affair or otherwise) with.

                                                    I actually thought the light reflecting off the soda can was her stand at first, and that she would be this universes version of Cars.

                                                    There is no hope for Fairy Tail

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                                                      I don't get the joke :sad:

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                                                        I don't get the joke :sad:

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                                                        Is it Gyro's Mozarella joke?

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                                                          I never got that one either.

                                                          Nah.

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                                                            And that is what makes it amazing.

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                                                              Excuse me/let me pass = 失礼 (Shitsurei)
                                                              4 2 0 = Shi two/tsu rei

                                                              That's the joke. It's not that it doesn't make sense, it's just that it is terrible. All his jokes are. And Johnny is always trolling him pretending they are good, but Gyro never gets it.

                                                              And it's parts ranking time again?

                                                              1.Steel Ball Run
                                                              2.Battle Tendency
                                                              3.Stone Ocean
                                                              4.Diamond is not Crash (I WILL ALWAYS CALL IT LIKE THAT)
                                                              5.Stardust Crusaders (it used to be 7th, but it got much better in anime)
                                                              6.Phantom Blood
                                                              7.Vento Aureo

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                                                                  That song should be used anytime when anyone makes an entrance.

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                                                                    Honestly, I never got why Dio was kept in the shadows until the end of Part 3. It's not like his appearance changed or anything, so what's the point?

                                                                    There is no hope for Fairy Tail

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                                                                      Because he burns in the sun 👅

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                                                                        Unlike a certain ultimate being.

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                                                                          4>7>3>2>5>1>6.

                                                                          In all seriousness, I think the main antagonists is the biggest factor that determines the quality of each part.

                                                                          You don't like Pucci?

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                                                                            You don't like Pucci?

                                                                            No one should like Pucci.

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                                                                              Pucci is a fuckton better than Diavolo.

                                                                              He's also completely hilarious when you step back and realize what's actually motivating him.

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                                                                                To bear Dio's child ?

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                                                                                  Pucci is a fuckton better than Diavolo.

                                                                                  He's also completely hilarious when you step back and realize what's actually motivating him.

                                                                                  Knowing the future because his sister killed herself before making love to her brother?

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                                                                                  No one should like Pucci.

                                                                                  Pucci's awesome, and he gets the job done.

                                                                                  ! biggest protagonist killing spree since Diavolo and Vanilla, and by far

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                                                                                    Pucci's only succesful job was press the damn reset button and starts SBR.

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                                                                                      @KageKageKing:

                                                                                      Pucci's only succesful job was press the damn reset button and starts SBR.

                                                                                      ! And he even managed to screw THAT up

                                                                                      Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.

                                                                                      Statler: No you haven't.

                                                                                      Both: DOHOHOHOHOHO!

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                                                                                      • Gliblord
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                                                                                        C'mon, guys. Nobody would be more on board with everyone's spouting strings of numbers than ol' Pucci!

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                                                                                          Is this… BOSS ranking time???

                                                                                          1.Funny Valentine (Although I admit Kira is a better character, I love Valentine)
                                                                                          2.Yoshikage Kira
                                                                                          3.Dio
                                                                                          4.Diavolo (including Doppio)
                                                                                          5.DIO
                                                                                          6.Pucci
                                                                                          7.Kars

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                                                                                          • Sâuza
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                                                                                            @KageKageKing:

                                                                                            Unlike a certain ultimate being.

                                                                                            throws pebbles

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                                                                                            • zachri
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                                                                                              But the thing is, with the end of Part 7… there are endless possibilities.
                                                                                              There could be an Avdol and a Polnareff and an Iggy in this 'reset' world.
                                                                                              tHEY COULD BE HAPPY
                                                                                              HAPPY I TELL YA
                                                                                              [/wheeps endlessly]
                                                                                              I'm still bitter after all these years of knowing.

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                                                                                              • KageKageKing
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                                                                                                There is an Avdol in SBR universe.
                                                                                                The difference is that he is from the 19th century and rides a camel.

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                                                                                                  Why the name Jojolion ?
                                                                                                  Don't answer if it's a big spoiler.

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                                                                                                  • KageKageKing
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                                                                                                    @RamistaR:

                                                                                                    Why the name Jojolion ?
                                                                                                    Don't answer if it's a big spoiler.

                                                                                                    Its a reference to Pink Floyd.

                                                                                                    Finished SBR?

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                                                                                                    • RamistaR
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                                                                                                      @KageKageKing:

                                                                                                      Its a reference to Pink Floyd.

                                                                                                      Finished SBR?

                                                                                                      EEEEEEH?! No-no-no-no-nooooo actual lion in the serie ?! That's why I started reading the whole damn thing.

                                                                                                      !

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                                                                                                      • SpaceCowboy
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                                                                                                        @KageKageKing:

                                                                                                        Its a reference to Pink Floyd.

                                                                                                        Finished SBR?

                                                                                                        ? It is?
                                                                                                        "According to a note by Araki in Vol. 2, the -lion in the title is derived from the Ancient Greek εὐαγγέλιον(evangelion), in reference to the Gospel/s. "By combining this word with "JoJo", I've meant for the title to signify the existence of the protagonist "Josuke" in this world"."

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