Moriah's friends were all massacred (probably right in front of him), I wouldn't call that giving up easily.
Even Luffy thought about doing the same when his brother died. And Moriah did plan on going back. Reader just don't like his new way.
Moriah's friends were all massacred (probably right in front of him), I wouldn't call that giving up easily.
Even Luffy thought about doing the same when his brother died. And Moriah did plan on going back. Reader just don't like his new way.
Eh, i don't know if i thought Brook dealt with it all that well either.
He did spend 50 years stuck completely on his own. I think that has more to do with him being somewhat crazed.
Think I'd start practising standing at angles myself. At the least.
True. But he did spend a few decades as a depressed, jabbering lunatic too.
I mean Moriah, seemingly, bounced back fairly soon after the tragedy. Although he may have been a tad looney too.
Yeah, but that was down to being stranded on a ship with a broken rudder, in thick fog, and being unable to swim without dying, rather than a lack of will to survive or whatever.
Oh Moria definitely went a tad loopy, if his behavior right before he activated Shadows Asgard was any indication.
She helped overthrow Alabasta purely to try and achieve her dream of finding the Rio Poneglyph though, so it does fit in with her not being entirely broken by her traumatic experiences.
As far as her wanting to die at the end of the arc goes, after doing all those terrible things for another dead end, and being stabbed in the chest with a massive hook…I can't really blame her.
To me only only Brook really resisted to his lost. Law was about killing everyone and Robin was desperately clinging to the mission inherited by the scholars without a care for herself.
I'm not sure what this means lol.
I think he meant that they wanted the lean, visible chinned, sixpack Moriah.
And not the lazy buttplugg version.
To me only only Brook really resisted to his lost. Law was about killing everyone and Robin was desperately clinging to the mission inherited by the scholars without a care for herself.
Robin already wanted to be a scholar before the tragedy at Ohara though, so she was still following her dream even if it was in a very dangerous fashion.
I'm not sure what this means lol.
People seems to hate his new lazy attitude and way to do stuff.
People seems to hate his new lazy attitude and way to do stuff.
Right, I get you now.
I wasn't sure if you were referring to King Cannon since he started this thing with Moria giving up easily.
Robin already wanted to be a scholar before the tragedy at Ohara though, so she was still following her dream even if it was in a very dangerous fashion.
From the flashback I really got the impresion she was obsess about the written rocks because they were her last connection to the scholars.
I wonder how law cured himself.
@Doffy.:
Well i got mine from a manga called One Piece where there is a character called Doflamingo where my username originally comes from hence my avatar and signature . I am sure you wouldn't happen to know about One Piece , now would you ?
Dude, it's identical! too much of coincidence if you ask me.
@Monkey:
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As Asia/Enel/Marigold/Luffy/Coby/Usopp scale and COO, from natural born, to the higly trained, to part of the culture, higly talented, born out of necesity, and born in a crisis, Conqueror Haki should have a similiar scale, that there are people who are born with natural qualities as leaders and ambitious, to those who's drive and determination awaken the ability.
As I recall, one can't train CoC, a character either has it or not. Unless you mean a character will have it as a dormant ability until he/she awakens it through certain events.
Boho so you lost everything that ever mattered to you. Suck it up you wimp.
Honestly i don't think Luffy would cope too well with losing all his crewmembers in one swoop.
If anything it's amazing that Moria is still at it, even if it's indirect.
Mixing signals?
Robin and Brook I can agree with to an extent.
Law lost everything he knew and degraded to the point of joining a murderous pirate crew just so he could kill and destroy as much as possible in the time he had left.
That one I'd have to disagree with.
To me only only Brook really resisted to his lost. Law was about killing everyone and Robin was desperately clinging to the mission inherited by the scholars without a care for herself.
That was kid Law. Present Law isn't about killing everyone or destroying the world, as Rocinante had set him straight.
From the flashback I really got the impresion she was obsess about the written rocks because they were her last connection to the scholars.
Also, she wanted to follow on her mom's footsteps.
He did spend 50 years stuck completely on his own. I think that has more to do with him being somewhat crazed.
Think I'd start practising standing at angles myself. At the least.
Brook is amazing. 50 years of complete boredom and loneliness. At least Moria gave him some action near the end of it.
As I recall, one can't train CoC, a character either has it or not. Unless you mean a character will have it as a dormant ability until he/she awakens it through certain events.
Indeed you can't.You can't train but you can still learn to use it.
That was kid Law. Present Law isn't about killing everyone or destroying the world, as Rocinante had set him straight.
Indeed he is. He lost everything and had no real hope but still kept his resolve.
Like you said he's been set straight but he did give up when he lost everything.
Also, she wanted to follow on her mom's footsteps.
Was she? I can't remember that part
Brook is amazing. 50 years of complete boredom and loneliness. At least Moria gave him some action near the end of it.
I hope the flashback is over, or we go into roci is my father (bellamy) flashback. Hopefully better jimbei cover as well.
I'm a member of this forum yet I discuss One Piece the least out of everything. So how do you think Law rejoins Doflamingo's crew?
Indeed you can't.You can't train but you can still learn to use it.
Indeed he is. He lost everything and had no real hope but still kept his resolve.
Like you said he's been set straight but he did give up when he lost everything.Was she? I can't remember that part
After you awaken it , that is .
I do not consider Brook a sane person, the dude seems pretty cucu to me, and every person who has lost everything has always found someone who can fill that empty void in their hearts, so I have to give props to Moria for considering a safe route during his second voyage after finding Perona and the others.
@God:
I'm a member of this forum yet I discuss One Piece the least out of everything. So how do you think Law rejoins Doflamingo's crew?
will he rejoin? after all of what Roci has done to get him to escape from them you think he'll simply get back to them?
That was kid Law. Present Law isn't about killing everyone or destroying the world, as Rocinante had set him straight.
Sorry to say this but Law is killing machine. The first thing he said during his introduction was "How many have you killed" and he got his Shishi title thanks to 100 hearts.
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@superv:
will he rejoin? after all of what Roci has done to get him to escape from them you think he'll simply get back to them?
Doon't mind him, he's just trolling
@God:
I'm a member of this forum yet I discuss One Piece the least out of everything. So how do you think Law rejoins Doflamingo's crew?
He doesn't.
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Sorry to say this but Law is killing machine. The first thing he said during his introduction was "How many have you killed" and he got his Shishi title thanks to 100 hearts.
None of those things prove that he killed anyone.
Sorry to say this but Law is killing machine. The first thing he said during his introduction was "How many have you killed" and he got his Shishi title thanks to 100 hearts.
Could we stop using that sentence which could mean anything. When you have the OP playing with someone's heart doesn't mean the victim is dead.
None of those things prove that he killed anyone.
Oh yeah, because he contracted a few bounty hunters and pay them to do the job for him or you think that Akainu would keep those hearts on a cell, right
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Could we stop using that sentence which could mean anything. When you have the OP playing with someone's heart doesn't mean the victim is dead.
It doesn't mean unless those hearts are sent to a person that will burn anything that has the word pirate on it
He doesn't.
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None of those things prove that he killed anyone.
Going by this logic then it must mean that Doflamingo isn't a psychopath since he also hasn't killed anyone on screen aside from his dad and his brother .
Judging whether one is good or evil based on how many they have killed in One Piece doesn't really make sense .
Oh yeah, because he contracted a few bounty hunters and pay them to do the job for him or you think that Akainu would keep those hearts on a cell, right
He sent those hearts to the WG themselves, not Akainu.
@Doffy.:
Going by this logic then it must mean that Doflamingo isn't a psychopath since he also hasn't killed anyone on screen aside from his dad and his brother .
Judging whether one is good or evil based on how many they have killed in One Piece doesn't really make sense .
No judging. Asking someone else how many they have killed doesn't prove that you have killed yourself.
Same for the heart thing. Law can obtain hearts without killing the person.
Law could have very well killed someone, but Shadowgreed's argument doesn't really prove it.
Didn't Law said that you gotta keep a distance between a heart and heartowner or else he'll die??
Guess all those 100 heart owners are living close to MF to keep themselfs alive :/
Didn't Law said that you gotta keep a distance between a heart and heartowner ot else he'll die??
Guess all those 100 heart owners are living close to MF to keep themselfs alive :/
Uh, no?
It wasn't for Akainu. He sent those hearts to the WG themselves.
And as we all know, they are nice, compasionate people. Not someone that would kill pirates they have complete control over, or use them to kill other pirates. No sir.
That's like arguing that pushing someone on tracks when high speed train is approaching isn't a murder, because you never killed anyone, it was all train's doing. That is not the kind of thinking that can be used when talking about ethics of killing people.
He sent those hearts to the WG themselves, not Akainu.
No judging. Asking someone else how many they have killed doesn't prove that you have killed yourself.
Same for the heart thing. Law can obtain hearts without killing the person.
Law could have very well killed someone, but Shadowgreed's argument doesn't really prove it.
Yes but it still doesn't change that Law is brutal .
Uh, no?
Kind of remember him saying that they have to keep CC close to his heart or he could die, or taking the heart way too long from him puts his life in danger, it was something like that.
And as we all know, they are nice, compasionate people. Not someone that would kill pirates they have complete control over, or use them to kill other pirates. No sir.
That's like arguing that pushing someone on tracks when high speed train is approaching isn't a murder, because you never killed anyone, it was all train's doing. That is not the kind of thinking that can be used when talking about ethics of killing people.
Well, the WG have the ultimate choice of either killing them or not. They're not a mindless object like a train. That would technically make Law "only" a guilty party.
I mean, do we call Marines murderers for capturing pirates and sending them to Impel Down to be executed later? This is closer to what Law does with those hearts than the train analogy.
Not that I'm defending Law for murder or anything. He probably did, but I don't think the 100 hearts count.
And as we all know, they are nice, compasionate people. Not someone that would kill pirates they have complete control over, or use them to kill other pirates. No sir.
That's like arguing that pushing someone on tracks when high speed train is approaching isn't a murder, because you never killed anyone, it was all train's doing. That is not the kind of thinking that can be used when talking about ethics of killing people.
Later on I'd really like to see some of those pirates being forced to do dirty jobs for the WG. You know that's definitely their style.
Well, the WG have the ultimate choice of either killing them or not. They're not a mindless object like a train. That would technically make Law "only" a guilty party.
Not that I'm defending Law for murder or anything. He probably did, but I don't think the 100 hearts count.
I'm not saying he would be liable for murder as far as the law is concerned, but from the ethical standpoint he definetely would hold a responsibility for anything that would happen to those pirates from then on.
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Later on I'd really like to see some of those pirates being forced to do dirty jobs for the WG. You know that's definitely their style.
Well, it's only practical, I say. You use the tools you are given.
He sent those hearts to the WG themselves, not Akainu.
Good to know, that puts my mind at ease.
Kind of remember him saying that they have to keep CC close to his heart or he could die, or taking the heart way too long from him puts his life in danger, it was something like that.
Sounds like you've been mangapanda-ed' hard.
But you know what's truly sad?
We have all those people with vengeances and grudges against Doflamingo, connections to him, build to be in conflict with him.
And the one to beat him will still be Luffy.
Sigh I hate Shonen tropes.
I like to think of Luffy as a force of nature in this situations. You know, everyone is busy plotting and planning, holding grudges and seeking vengeance and then a Storm comes by and just tears down all that shit down.
It fits with how Oda has potrayed Luffy and the SH so far. They come in out of nowhere like a storm and just basically destroy everything(you know what I mean) leaving behind a clean fresh start.
I like it.
I don't know if I was suppose to feel sorry for Doffy in this chapter ,but for some strange reason I did. You can tell he didn't really want to kill his brother he certainly didn't take any joy in it, but Rosinante forced his hand and left him with no other choice.
I don't know if I was suppose to feel sorry for Doffy in this chapter ,but for some strange reason I did. You can tell he didn't really want to kill his brother he certainly didn't take any joy in it, but Rosinante forced his hand and left him with no other choice.
Man you just have mixed feelings
I do not consider Brook a sane person, the dude seems pretty cucu to me, and every person who has lost everything has always found someone who can fill that empty void in their hearts, so I have to give props to Moria for considering a safe route during his second voyage after finding Perona and the others.
oh, I never said Brook was sane, just that considering the known effects of solitary confinement he's coping well. :D
His goals of playing for Laboon, standing at an angle and coming up with the shittiest bone jokes imaginable gave him focus enough but when he first encountered Moriah he was much further gone. Having the five years to process the encounter and add getting his shadow back to his goals are the only things that calmed him down enough to be able to interact with the Straw Hats at all.
If this were a more realistic manga I'd expect nights of PTSD so bad his crewmates have to hold him down while he screams "NONE OF THIS IS REAL!"
I'm guessing Moriah fell apart too, after the rout and it was only dull thoughts of vengeance and becoming the PK that kept him going. One of the OP stories I doubt we'll see is how he recovered enough to begin another crew. Possibly a desperate Hogbark chases down a rumour of a recluse guarded by the dead? His meeting the shattered man and awakens him to the possibilities of an all-star corpse crew. However the story went I'd love to read it.
Well, it's only practical, I say. You use the tools you are given.
Oh absolutely. I just want to see the follow up on it.
Hopefully Akainu hears about Law and Luffys business on Dressrosa gets pissed off goes to the WG requests to melt the crate of 100 hearts. M night twist the hearts were all world noble hearts. I wouldn't miss them.:blink:
Don't mind him, he's just trolling
Wow, you guys really didn't get the question. I'm asking what do you think Law does to get Doflamingo to let him rejoin before he officially betrays them at Punk Hazard?
He doesn't have to do anything Doffy just wants him back so he can convince/ force him to perform the sacrifice operation.
I don't know if I was suppose to feel sorry for Doffy in this chapter ,but for some strange reason I did. You can tell he didn't really want to kill his brother he certainly didn't take any joy in it, but Rosinante forced his hand and left him with no other choice.
He had a choice, people always have a choice, he's just a butt
I don't know if I was suppose to feel sorry for Doffy in this chapter ,but for some strange reason I did. You can tell he didn't really want to kill his brother he certainly didn't take any joy in it, but Rosinante forced his hand and left him with no other choice.
You know, he didn't really have to kill him. Rosinante was all beaten up and surrounded.
Doula also knew Rosi wouldn't pull the trigger, so yeah, he had a choice.
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@God:
Wow, you guys really didn't get the question. I'm asking what do you think Law does to get Doflamingo to let him rejoin before he officially betrays them at Punk Hazard?
He didn't rejoin.
Was she? I can't remember that part
Olvia encouraged Robin to follow in her footsteps and continue the will of the scholars of Ohara:
http://bato.to/read/_/263479/one-piece-digital-colored-comics_v41_ch396_by_binky-land/10
I don't know if I was suppose to feel sorry for Doffy in this chapter ,but for some strange reason I did. You can tell he didn't really want to kill his brother he certainly didn't take any joy in it, but Rosinante forced his hand and left him with no other choice.
are we talking about the guy who shot his lil bro five times none of which was an instant killing shot ? he didn't even show mercy in killing him not to mention sparing his life as he could have
How big the Odaowned would be if Doula dies at the end of this arc?