nah, I wanna see Sanji's reaction to the question assuming that this question will remind him how he actually learnt it lol
Yeah that would be cool. Not sure, maybe it was anime only but i remember scene when he said "I run away and run and run and finally i flew"
Has there been an example where an actual non-haki user has remarked on the blackening effect?
I've been trying to remember, but I don't think so, about 90% sure. Would have to reread stuff.
Guys I'm telling you know, the next stage of COC haki(Kings haki) is being able to release shockwave.
Y'all should make fun of hardening, I love fights that's pure hardening example the new One piece special Luffy vs World the way the black hardening keeps popping up, appearing and disappearing was just too damn good, made the fight more intense and you can really feel the hardness of their black hardening.
Another example: Hody vs Luffy.
Still when Hody was spamming his water shots at Luffy, there's no way Hody knew where each drop will go, and still Luffy used his CoO to predict where each drop will be.
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8c5myIf2v1qftanso5_500.gif
Hmm… maybe Hody knew where he was shooting it. Or maybe you can CoO things like those bullets. Can't you sense danger if it's not done by living thing? (like i dunno vulcano or anything like that). If so, then it doesn't have to be a thought of enemy that you read...
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@Myu:
Subconscious thing is at hand actually given how Luffy sensed Caribou and told Zoro and Sanji in Fishman Island. But I think a duel would need focusing all that distracted attention and observation to the opponent in front of you. And at the same time you have an armour to wield. By the use of verb restriction I was trying to describe this phenomenon in which using both of two at the same time at the full power might not be possible.
Given how Mihawk commented on Luffy's CoO usage with his unusual calmness. It's like CoO might need some state of calm. Plus all the real damage happened in the big-gun fights when they lost their cool and went all in. After Ace died, WB rushed in and traded deadly blows for example. Then we have Akainu vs Aokiji fight going on for 10 days. Since both can be explained with sheer emotions and circumstances I can't insist those two examples have any value as proof. But atleast they are paralel. Our subject being the mechanics, not knowing how they happened with full detail, leaves me nothing to base my assumptions with.
Then again we have Luffy hearing the Sea Kings while going maniac on Noah. Given the possibility it's a form of CoO, all thing falls of.
Yeah probably focusing on CoO and CoA at same time is quite hard and most of normal haki users might focus more on one or the other. But I'm guessing that Haki masters can use both at max power at the same time :)
I could easily see her weather prediction ability being retconned as a form of CoO.
By the end of the series I can see her not predicting the weather, but actually having fully control of the weather in a massive area or Space. If she could end up changing air pressure through weather manipulation as in increase the ammount of wind in an specific point her ability would be pretty much deadly. Her character seems to be developing as a mage-wizard-sorcery-witch who always seem to have low defense and stamina but high power attack, in her case elemental attacks, plus those illusions-mirages she creates and the fact that she is depicted as a thief. so stealth, sorcery and navigation. Those are her contributions to the crew, not to mention that it is highly unlikely that the ship will capsize due to any weather phenomena with her around as the navigator.
Honestly I can´t see any particular use of haki for her as of now but I might be wrong. Conversely I would much preffer for her weather knowledge and powers to keep on expanding, there are many more weather elements out there that she hasn´t mastered yet.
God damme it, I feel like my whole week is hanging on a leg or something, I went from having a perfect manga schedule to just having just a schedule.:sad:
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Silly Bastille, why didn't you Harden your sword?
Also, why do you suck in general?
Ahhh Diamente is even dumber lol
we have seen a lot of instances post-TS that a user utilized CoA and didn't turn his body part black like when luffy punched ceasar with momo on his back. i think it's just the concentration of CoA in one part that turns it black thus makig it more dense .
Seriously though it's like my biologic rhythm went bad.
@Myu:
Don't know your part in the release but thanks for mentioning anyway.
I clean the bubbles, maps, and such.
Thanks for pointing out the Ishuhui thing… not sure how that happened, but we'll fix it.
Simply doing his job as VA.
Haha, nice.
It sucks that 3000 marines are reduced to one person that counts. Fujitora could have just come to Dressrosa alone and practically nothing would have changed.
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Ahhh Diamente is even dumber lol
Maybe it's harder to harden an object that is moving and changing shape, or something.
Or he just sucks in general.
Haha, nice.
It sucks that 3000 marines are reduced to one person that counts. Fujitora could have just come to Dressrosa alone and practically nothing would have changed.
Yeah. It's always been the case though. The only not admiral level marine to matter was Smoker, and timeskip changed that dramaticaly.
Put's the hype they got in new perspective…
But I will shut up before I get annoyed again...
Haha, nice.
It sucks that 3000 marines are reduced to one person that counts. Fujitora could have just come to Dressrosa alone and practically nothing would have changed.
I've come to consider VA as Tashigi dream job (Hype material while being recognize as strong). So now I can laugh when they hope to accomplish something battle-wise.
I've come to consider VA as Tashigi dream job (Hype material while being recognize as strong). So now I can laugh when they hope to accomplish something battle-wise.
We should have known something was up when Oda made them as generic as it gets fighting-style wise…
I blame it on Oda underdelivering on hype he himself build-up. As he slowly makes habit of doing that... Annoyingly so.
We should have known something was up when Oda made them as generic as it gets fighting-style wise…
I blame it on Oda underdelivering on hype he himself build-up. As he slowly makes habit of doing that... Annoyingly so.
The moment Smoker decided to face Law I knew the pattern would fucked him. And I sure enjoyed it.
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They do have some difference. There's a fuy with 8 swords and Garp.
The moment Smoker decided to face Law I knew the pattern would fucked him. And I sure enjoyed it.
Well, I did not. I consider Law and his powers to be poorly written and allowing for too much of a freedom. And I also consider completly killing Smoker as a character not worth it.
It would be okay if that was problem for marines only. But at this point, I'd say it is for all characters.
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They do have some difference. There's a fuy with 8 swords and Garp.
Garp is an VA in name only, and Onigumo is the same bland swordsman archetype given more blades.
Smoker is bloody most original VA they have on the staff right now, powers wise.
Well, I did not. I consider Law and his powers to be poorly written and allowing for too much of a freedom. And I also consider completly killing Smoker as a character not worth it.
It would be okay if that was problem for marines only. But at this point, I'd say it is for all characters.
Nothing say to I'm strong to the reader than beating Wolverine(or vegita). So when old baddass with a rank of VA face the new rival/ally and in need for hype Shichibukai ( Worst possible match-up for VA) I know old baddass gets a beating. A draw with Lucky.
Garp is an VA in name only, and Onigumo is the same bland swordsman archetype given more blades.
Smoker is bloody most original VA they have on the staff right now, powers wise.
Vergo and Maynard?
They sure like their sword. I suppose it gives more option for the one in need of hyping.
the only thing that's left is coby and helmeppo xD
Smoker will have his time to shine, I bet he will be admiral before oda officialy ends one piece so don't worry. :)
Maybe it's harder to harden an object that is moving and changing shape, or something.
Or he just sucks in general.
I think he just sucks
Ugh this new schedule has got me all mixed up.
Anyway, CoO has had a couple of abilities that we've seen. It can be used to predict attacks against the user and to sense the presence and vague intentions (aura, basically) of others. For some people, auras take the form of hearing other people's voices, like their souls maybe. I believe CoO can only detect attacks directly towards the user because of the intent behind them. This explains why Enel had trouble against Luffy, because Luffy was attacking the wall and hoping his ricocheting attacks might randomly hit. It explains why Luffy could dodge Hody's water bullets, because Hody aimed them all at Luffy even though he might not be cognizant of their specific trajectories. I believe it also helps explain why Doflamingo's clones are so easily hit by Kyros and later Abdullah and Jeet. In the likely event that Doflamingo has CoO, he probably wasn't able to anticipate the attacks because they weren't aimed at his specific person. Alternatively, he needs to focus Haki on controlling his clones and doesn't have any to spare searching for intruders. In other words, CoO cannot detect objects with no will in them or attacks directed at other people. In general, CoO seems to function as awareness. You can focus on something specific and observe it carefully or be generally aware of your surroundings but lack detail. It's likely that when two CoO users fight they focus on each other and the Haki cancels out, with the better user having a slight edge.
For Armament Haki, we've also seen two basic functions: hardening and countering devil fruits. I like the idea of blackening used as a visual cue but being generally invisible to non-Haki users. Pre-timeskip, CoA hardening was used by the Kujas and probably at Marineford. However, it was invisible because Luffy, and through him the audience, did not use or understand Haki. Post-timeskip Luffy has mastered the basics and now hardening is shown visibly. Oda probably knew he needed a way to indicate hardening but decided to keep us in the dark and wait for a good transition point to introduce it. I think it's been pretty firmly established that CoA doesn't turn things black if it's not hardening them (see Luffy and Caesar).
The main thing I'd like to learn about Haki is how Whitebeard and Shanks cleaved the freaking sky when the clashed back on the Moby Dick. Was that Conqueror's Haki? And if so why did Luffy's and Chinjao's CoC clash look different?
Like most antagonists post-timeskip…
In all honesty, One Piece would benefit from having antagonist-centric arcs without Straw Hats solely as a pay-off for all the bloody hype. Blackbeard Pirates and Marines are two groups that would benefit most from it. And Supernovas, especially Kid.
Smoker is bloody most original VA they have on the staff right now, powers wise.
It's not like coming up with new powers is easy. If the dude is not a DF user, then he's stuck with Rokushiki/Swordsmanship/Haki or all of them.
@LordEnel:
Smoker will have his time to shine, I bet he will be admiral before oda officialy ends one piece so don't worry. :)
How long until he gets CoC? :ninja:
It's not like coming up with new powers is easy. If the dude is not a DF user, then he's stuck with Rokushiki/Swordsmanship/Haki or all of them.
Random Marine Captains have more to their fighting styles then VA's.
I think that argument might be invalid.
Not to mention that yes, it does speak volumes about their importance to the plot that Oda took no effort in creating their fighting styles.
What you've said is general consensus,but yes. Shanks vs WB thing wasn't that much of a Haki related IMPOV. Two strong people clashed with each other without any bad intention, it was kind of a goodbye.
@LordEnel:
Smoker will have his time to shine, I bet he will be admiral before oda officialy ends one piece so don't worry. :)
I will believe it when I see it, and not a moment before.
And who knows, maybe Oda will start writing his female characters differently as well. Hell, he even hinted at it with SBS regarding Tashigi.
Shame it doesn't pay-off…
so tomorrow spoilers?
vergo was a waste, good ability and design…
But Smoker wasn't anything special to begin with? I never would gave him a chance against Luffy if Luffy had the means to touch him.
Random Marine Captains have more to their fighting styles then VA's.
I think that argument might be invalid.
Not to mention that yes, it does speak volumes about their importance to the plot that Oda took no effort in creating their fighting styles.
But he does takes effort into their designs.
It's even more complicated with DF users, where he has to come up with a power first and then design the character around the power. There's a reason Very Good is so round.
Imagine trying to come up with a DF power to each VA.
He takes effort into their designs.
It's even more complicated with DF users, where he has to come up with a power first and then design the character around the power. There's a reason Very Good is so round.
Or… just a theory, mind you...
He took effort in designing them so that people would think they are important and powerful, therefore allowing them to serve as better hype-pieces.
Just a theory.
Next chapter Law flashback starts and Vergo soon will be revealed as Metal Paramecia.
Goodnight 
Goodnight vagabond :D
Tomorrow spoilers?
Usopp has had Coo since Skypiea when he saw the Going Merry's aura/soul. :ninja:
Wouldn't be surprised if he or Franky both have Conqueror's Haki .
They were both leaders of small groups b4 joining the crew and both have magnetic personalities. Not saying these are signs of Conqueror's Haki but for me personally it would make it more believable if one of those guys got it down the road.
Usopp has had Coo since Skypiea when he saw the Going Merry's aura/soul. :ninja:
False, he's had it since he was a child. Every story he told came true. His Observation predicts future.
you joking right? why monday? there is break this week?
There's no break this week.
No one really knows when the next chapter will be out because the schedule has just changed. I think it was Thursday spoilers, Friday chapter last week, so it might be similar to that this week.
vergo was a waste, good ability and design…
He served his purpose plus we are heading to the late half of the series we can't have characters lingerinnnggg
Too bad Vergo is probably alive. Monet too.
Please no Oda, i beg you, i can't stand his eating stickyness
Hope we gonna keep the track of the story going forward like last 2 chapters.
Well Wednesdays aren't special anymore… unless you read comics from the US I guess.. lol.
About the whole "Hardening is just a non-visible effect", wasn't Zephyr known as "Black Arm" ? He's a movie character, but he was designed by Oda, and I believe he also created his back story, so take it as you will.
On Diamante. He probably has one of the most interesting DF powers introduced in the series. I like powers that, at first glance, seem useless but with creative usage become very dangerous. However, Diamante was doomed from the beginning to not be able to fight any of the main characters. His ability is completely dependent on mundane objects like swords and folded steel. While his steel cape is very cool in concept, it won't stop an attack from any of the monster trio, law, or even Franky. His morphing steel sword, while has some neat tricks, is still a steel sword that can be snapped in half by any decently powerful character, as Sabo demonstrated. Kyros was pretty much the only character who could engage Diamante in an interesting fight, and that indeed what happened at the end. I saw that coming the moment it was revealed that Diamante was the one who killed Rebecca's mom, and a few chapters that ended up happening, which left me a little bit disappointed.
I know this is One Piece, but if Monet is still alive after being stabbed in the heart, then what was the point? Vergo coming back is at least more reasonable since he wasn't stabbed in the heart lol.
Stuff
lol you are showing off your infraction like it's a trophy, are really that proud for being a douchebag?
I know this is One Piece, but if Monet is still alive after being stabbed in the heart, then what was the point? Vergo coming back is at least more reasonable since he wasn't stabbed in the heart lol.
well she is….. so prepare
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