@Darth:
Do you want to get comparison between the number of panels given to Aokiji and Fujitora?
Fujitora remains antagonist with second number of panels dedicated to them in the entire arc. If his role was, as you say, to solely introduce him this arc, then the focus on him is way too long.
And on that matter, Aokiji practicaly ended Luffy. Far more impressive achievement then what Fujitora did this arc. Relatively, but still.
I'm pretty sure other members of the Donquixote family have had more panels than Fuji has, he's disappeared for long stretches.
Yeah, he ended Luffy before he had his gears or any understanding of how to fight a Logia.
Fuji at least put down Zoro with ease, who I think we can easily say is stronger post-timeskip than Luffy was pre-timeskip.
@Darth:
Now, that just makes him incomptent.
When amount power he is using is very clearly not enough, he ought to use more of it.
But I guess I will give you this one.
Lol yeah I suppose he really should use more power.
Considering my whole "saved for later relevance" thing though, it does fit.
@Darth:
Included with little "I did everything I could in my power to NOT capture him"? Or are you saying that Fujitora will barge in on Doflamingo still standing?
Nah, Doffy will be down, I'll give you that.
He can omit the whole "decided not to capture" thing with engaging Sabo though if he needs to.
I imagine it'll still look a lot better than Kizaru's reports.
@Darth:
Yeah, but you see…
Blackbeard took down Ace.
Ace had elemental advantage over Kuzan.
Ace had years to master his devil fruit.
Sabo had minutes.
Fighting evenly with Sabo is not an achievement on part of Fujitora.
He still had an extended fight with BB and wasn't exactly outclassed, it came down to one massive clash.
Sakazuki had super elemental advantage over Kuzan and still took 10 days to put him down, competing with the guy at all is pretty awesome.
Sabo's strength comes from his incredible Haki though. While Ace was mastering his DF, Sabo was sharpening his Dragon Claws to an insane degree.
He'd already ascended to revolutionary pseudo admiral before he was anywhere near the Mera Mera.
Now he has the MM on top of that.
Also, the fighting comparison with Ace seems to be on a purely physical level, since it was alluded to before either of them had these relevant abilities.
Just admit that Sabo is a big deal, C'mon.
I can't stand him as a character either but even I can see that and admit it.
@Darth:
… You are aware he did not put a single bit of visible damage on anyone yet, right?
I've already outlined how he's shown the edges of his power and seemed impressive while doing just that.
I suppose some visible damage wouldn't hurt to drive that home.
@Darth:
Don't worry about it. Just… use arguments, not it. The fact that I'm self proclaimed marine fanboy does not make incapable of understanding storytelling or sequenstial art.
Hmm…the jury is still out on that one.:ninja:
@Darth:
Okay, let's say that you are Gorosei, and Fujitora goes to you with that plan.
Why would you buy that marines can actually deal with Shichibukai? Mind you, they can't commit their entire force to it: They still have Revolutionaries, Yonkou, Supernovas, and random pirates on their mind.
And if they cannot deal with them, then the plan is actually worse then the reality, because you get new powerful enemy, that can no openly do what they have been doing in secret for years.
Would you trust Fujitora to deal with Mihawk, for example, considering his Dressrosa perfomance thus far?
It's not like all the Shichibukai would be allied though, hell they have trouble enough working together as it is.
Apart from Blackbeard (who is now a Yonko and as such falls outside this jurisdiction anyway) no Shichibukai has made an active move against the World Government up till this point.
Hell, they'll even get to keep Kuma regardless.
Of the existing Shichibukai, literally the only one that there's a question mark over in terms of whether the marine forces could handle them is Mihawk (discounting the 7th who all we have on is conjecture), and even at that I couldn't see him not being troubled by Sakazuki or Borsalino.
Fuji, as I've said, we haven't seen anywhere near the limits of his power, so I can't really make a call on that based on an arc where he's so actively not used his full power.
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@Panda:
So, I've just been skimming the past few posts, but I would love if somebody could tell me if I'm correct in my analysis of things.
First, talk related to Marineford kept cropping up in chapter discussion threads, where it wasn't really relevant, so Rob created this thread to talk about it.
Now, by this point, this thread seems to be filled with… talk about Fujitora's performance on Dressrosa, which would go wonderfully at least in the Dressrosa thread, if not necessarily the specific chapter threads?
I'm clearly confused.
Well it's kind of comparing to admiral performances in MF as bench mark and stuff too.
Although, I'll admit we have gone a bit off topic.
Seems like this particular line of discussion is fizzling now though anyway.
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