hm…I'm still not 100% sold on Brook being another swordsman. I like the ice aspect of his powers, but I feel like if he was purely hypnotic music + ice instead of using the sword he would be a much more interesting character. Since right now he just feels like an inferior Zoro imo
Wasted opportunities of One Piece
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Still, I thought Law actually dirtied his hands with Luffy and Jinbe, and wasn't even sure about Luffy's survival? That gave me the impression that he was a great doctor, but not a freaking cure-it-all God. Feels weird to suddenly see him easily cure dozens of fataly poisoned children at the same time without any effort and all done through DF abilities.
Well, yeah, we did see him cleaning his hands after the surgery, so he did perform traditionally there.
However, the kids probably needed special treatment. And even then, he didn't fully heal them either, so he wasn't exactly 100% successful.
hm…I'm still not 100% sold on Brook being another swordsman. I like the ice aspect of his powers, but I feel like if he was purely hypnotic music + ice instead of using the sword he would be a much more interesting character. Since right now he just feels like an inferior Zoro imo
Brook's style is completely different from Zoro's.
Hell, you even admit that Brook's ice and hypnotic music are unique and interesting enough, yet just because he has a blade, he's just an "inferior Zoro".
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Brook is actually superior not the other way around mainly because he knows how to have some fun and can be compationate when needed also he's the Soul King ,I don't see Zoro being the king of anything except maybe smugism or something of the like.
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Brook is actually superior not the other way around mainly because he knows how to have some fun and can be compationate when needed also he's the Soul King ,I don't see Zoro being the king of anything except maybe smugism or something of the like.
Why do you think Zoro is not having fun with his Techniques?
BTW, King of swordmen???? Maybe?????
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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There's nothing wrong with having more than one swordsman there. The fighting style is generic enough to have more than one practicioner. In the end, Luffy, Sanji, Chopper and eventually Jinbe are all martial artists. Franky having artillery doesn't degrade Usopp's sniper skills either.
I'm actually glad that we have another swordsman in the crew who actually makes swordsmanship interesting. Zoro's Santoryu has grown stale to me and his techniques are the least memorable of the Straw Hats.
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Actually, just a reminder that the kids are not cured yet. Vegapunk is (supposedly) in charge of doing that. Possibly out of danger for now, but they still have to go through rehab.
And they're also stuck with being half-giants, I guess.
And it was Chopper who discovered the kind of drugs they had been ingesting for years, so the research part was all his. At least give him that little merit.
Well, then there really is no reason Chopper couldn't have contributed to the treatment, is there? Chopper gets to prove himself, but isn't a "too good for this point in the series" 100% miracle medic, since the kids are still giant, and still addicts. Win Win.
I assume Law's extracting works the same way he switched personalities, or Kuma removed all pain. Big balls of goop pulled out by a DF suited for it.
Well, you can't. But that's not Chopper's fault, it's Law's fault for being too unnecessarily godly. But once he's so unnecessarily godly and can solve this matter easily. . .yeah, it'd be foolish not to leave it to him.
Law is only as godly as Oda writes him though. Oda could have showed restraint, and stopped short of repeating Kumas pain remove. Have Law say "My ability is suited for surgery, not chemical substance removal, Chopper-ya assist me". If Chopper had contributed to the treatment, would people have complained how unecessary it was, since "law could've cut used his surgery skills to cut out the drug molecules, I'm sure he can do that, even though we've never seen that before"? Or, since its even further beyond Laws already established über-ness, would people have assumed that his ability might've had a limit?
@dailyfiber:I think part of why he was able to cure them so well was because he was on Punk Hazard for a while and knew the extent of Ceaser's experiments on the kids?
The first aspect of medicine is identification, and Law's definitely improved his DF ability after the timeskip, so I can see how he'd be able to cure them so easily.
The people petrified by Smiley were cured not by Laws familiarity with Caesars experiments, but by torturing Caesar post-capture. If push came to shove to make it "more believable" for Chopper to assist, they could've have Caesar spill the beans on the giantification experiments as well.
Caesar: Shurororo, but I used so much obscure shit people don't know how to deal with! Those kids are as good as dead!
Law: Mildly frowny face
Chopper: Oh, I think I read about this on obscure medical library island. I have an idea that might work.Theres so many ways it could've been written differently, and I'm not really sure what would've been lost by giving Chopper a nice big Doctor Milestone moment, except yet another wall-to-wall Law problem solving scene.
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I should clarify. I'm not arguing at all that Oda shouldn't have put Chopper triumping in there. The stuff your suggesting is great and I agree it would totally work and maybe even SHOULD have been there.
But I also feel that Oda wasn't trying to emphasize that and was going for something else, so it doesn't feel like a totally missed opportunity. He felt like a gag with Law being fake grim was better for the audience than a dramatic scene with a proclamation, so… I dunno. That it was brought up at all that CHopper is a doctor and he wanted to help was something, at least, and its about the same level as his showdown with Hogback which also probably could have been more. He DID have Choipper doing SOMETHING, he DID acknowledge his mission and needs and goals, he just didn't have him doing as much as we the audience maybe would have preferred.
Mostly its times like these where the series taking 25 years stretches out developments we want and feel should be seeing by now,
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Brook's style is completely different from Zoro's.
Hell, you even admit that Brook's ice and hypnotic music are unique and interesting enough, yet just because he has a blade, he's just an "inferior Zoro".
The ice and music part of his fighting style makes him unique, it would be better if he doesn't need a sword and just relied on other things
Like even this would of been a better weapon that would of suited Brook's character more
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A cane sword is way overplayed too in manga, even fujitora uses one
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Oda will undoubtably miss an opportunity for Law to give Big Mom an abortion.
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The ice and music part of his fighting style makes him unique, it would be better if he doesn't need a sword and just relied on other things
Like even this would of been a better weapon that would of suited Brook's character more
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A cane sword is way overplayed too in manga, even fujitora uses one
The cane is part of Brook's character. His gentlemanly behavior is one of his many charms and the cane only adds to that. Having it conveniently be a sword as well works for me. The whole picture of Brook being a classy fella who relies on elegant and efficient attacks to defeat his opponents wouldn't be the same with a huge scythe (regardless of how cool it looks). You'd need to change his personality, make him darker and whatnot in order to fit.
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Haven't read the whole thread, but: bounty Hunters. It's an extremely lucrative business, and an alternative means of funding a journey besides piracy. It makes sense for us to see more strong bounty hunters.
In fact, right about where we are now would be the ideal place for them. Everyone has to go through Saboady to get to the New World, so naturally the place is loaded with Bounty Hunters. So say you're fairly well accomplished but don't want to deal with all the competition? Camp out on one of the islands relatively close to the start of the New World.
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The cane is part of Brook's character. His gentlemanly behavior is one of his many charms and the cane only adds to that. Having it conveniently be a sword as well works for me. The whole picture of Brook being a classy fella who relies on elegant and efficient attacks to defeat his opponents wouldn't be the same with a huge scythe (regardless of how cool it looks). You'd need to change his personality, make him darker and whatnot in order to fit.
I like the cane, but the cane sword makes it seems more assassin like. His fencing style is pretty gentlemanly, but I almost wish he would use a rapier then. Still though, just the fencing style, compared to Zoro it dosen't add anything unique to the crew. I think it would of been better to solely focus on music for attacks rather than just as a stun so he can get a free hit with his sword.
Like this
using sound waves as attacks would of been great. Just imagine: Brook is playing a creepy tune on his violin, and suddenly everything around him starts to get cut up. He manipulates the sound waves into slicing attacks, would be much interesting than a sword imo.
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Well Brook was the convoy leader for the battle fleet of a certain kingdom, so I can see how Brook would have been versed in the art of combat, but maybe not necessarily assassination.
Also, if you wanted him to be able to manipulate sound waves to attack, he should have been given Scratchmen Apoo's devil fruit…since that's essentially what that does. I'm really happy Brook doesn't use some sort of cornball method to manipulate sound waves to attack, instead I love how Brook can use music to influence people's moods, which is basically an intrinsic quality of music already. He can manipulate people's emotions with it because he's such a talented musician, just like Sanji can bring out the flavor of any food because he's so good as a chef.
I think a cane sword is perfect, as opposed to a Scythe. As was mentioned, his personality doesn't fit the scythe (plus it would be so cliche). Fencing is completely different from Zoro's style, so they're already pretty differentiated. As far as adding something unique to the crew goes, we've already seen shades of that at Fishman Island with him harnessing his devil fruit powers to attack in unique ways. I'm sure as the series progresses we'll see even more examples of that.
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From my point of view I'll have to go with Zoro's opponents, Zoro is one of my top favorite characters in OP, but somehow only seeing him fight swordsmen all the time is kind of disappointing.
Before people jump at me and say it's his dream to be the number one swordsman, I know that already … but now when you watch an arc and find a swordsman in it you know it is going to be zoro to fight him/her, or let's say that the opponent (Pica, Monet, Kaku ..etc) are fighting him with their strength/skills/power aaaaaand all of a sudden they pick up a sword for the fight.
It would be amazing to actually see Zoro fight a non-swordsman type of an opponent ... A Logia (excluding Monet) or a brute fighter (example Diamon Jozu)
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@Yamato:
From my point of view I'll have to go with Zoro's opponents, Zoro is one of my top favorite characters in OP, but somehow only seeing him fight swordsmen all the time is kind of disappointing.
Before people jump at me and say it's his dream to be the number one swordsman, I know that already … but now when you watch an arc and find a swordsman in it you know it is going to be zoro to fight him/her, or let's say that the opponent (Pica, Monet, Kaku ..etc) are fighting him with their strength/skills/power aaaaaand all of a sudden they pick up a sword for the fight.
It would be amazing to actually see Zoro fight a non-swordsman type of an opponent ... A Logia (excluding Monet) or a brute fighter (example Diamon Jozu)
To be fair, how many times has Zoro fought an actual bog standard swordsman?
Daz Bones, Braham, Ohm and Kaku were all pretty far removed from a regular swordsman like Zoro.
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To be fair, how many times has Zoro fought an actual bog standard swordsman?
Daz Bones, Braham, Ohm and Kaku were all pretty far removed from a regular swordsman like Zoro.
Actually, Braham was anything BUT a swordsman. He used kicks + guns.
And I'll always refuse to call Daz Bones a swordsman. He was more like a martial artist. . .with blades everywhere. But martial artist nontheless.
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Actually, Braham was anything BUT a swordsman. He used kicks + guns.
And I'll always refuse to call Daz Bones a swordsman. He was more like a martial artist. . .with blades everywhere. But martial artist nontheless.
Exactly, they were far removed from a swordsman like Zoro.
Oh, I forgot Cabaji and The Nyaban Brothers too.
Basically we've had Zoro against Mihawk (slaughter), against Hachi (joke), against Ryumma, against Hyuzou (Squash) and now Pica.
So essentially 2 actual fights against "swordsmen" and he hasn't even had one of those yet….also the guy can control and assimilate stone, so I doubt it'll just be swordplay and that's it.
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Thank you Darth for opening this thread. It was a need IMHO.
The more "we" grow up watching One Piece, the more "I and few others" think that the manga/anime doesn't live-up to the hype/match the viewers current ages.
Every time I re-watch/re-read OP to introduce a friend or a relative of mine to the series, I figure out what so childish One Piece is.
IT'S NOT A SHOUNEN MANGA ANY LONGER… at least, comparing to the other shounen current ones.A part of the blame goes to the Anime company for sure, this can be felt if you watched HxH 2011 anime, and to Oda since he is the writer of the story.
The majority percentage of viewers in Japan goes for adults and he's still showing them/us unreasonable things and they/we should not complain about since IT IS ONE PIECE, a genius master piece.
I'll name few:
- leaving Pell, Pagaya and so alive when they were supposed to die. Let's say he did mistakes before.. now I don't wanna' see him doing this again with Monet's death, which I doubt he would make her die.
- The Shegan shots into the heart.
- Usoop's broken skull and nose!!
- Falling from over 1 km from the sky and not getting even tiny scratches from it!!
- and not to forget, whenever a character wants to do something, he has to say it out loud. Even when talking to himself. That's so ridicules.
He's always wasting opportunities when he has the chance to not repeat the same mistakes again.
Don't get me wrong. I still love OP, but I wanna see a progress with these things.
Syria is bleeding and the world is still watching
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Thank you Darth for opening this thread. It was a need IMHO.
The more "we" grow up watching One Piece, the more "I and few others" think that the manga/anime doesn't live-up to the hype/match the viewers current ages.
Every time I re-watch/re-read OP to introduce a friend or a relative of mine to the series, I figure out what so childish One Piece is.
IT'S NOT A SHOUNEN MANGA ANY LONGER… at least, comparing to the other shounen current ones.A part of the blame goes to the Anime company for sure, this can be felt if you watched HxH 2011 anime, and to Oda since he is the writer of the story.
The majority percentage of viewers in Japan goes for adults and he's still showing them/us unreasonable things and they/we should not complain since IT IS ONE PIECE, a genius master piece.
I'll name few:
- leaving Pell, Pagaya and so alive when they were supposed to die. Let's say he did mistakes before.. now I don't wanna' see him doing this again with Monet's death, which I doubt he would make her die.
- The Shegan shots into the heart.
- Usoop's broken skull and nose!!
- Falling from over 1 km from the sky and not getting even tiny scratches from it!!
- and not to forget, whenever a character wants to do something, he has to say it out loud. Even when talking to himself. That's so ridicules.
He's always wasting opportunities by making up and not repeating the same mistakes.
Don't get me wrong. I still love OP, but I wanna see a progress with these things.
I don't get the big problem people have with death in One Piece tbh.
When it's absolutely necessary for the story to progress, we get deaths.
Ace died so that it would harden Luffy's resolve to get stronger and ultimately become Pirate King.
Whitebeard died to end the era at the time.
Characters like Pell, Pagaya etc. really don't need to die tbh.
All the stuff about shigans and falling and whatever…we really can't expect realistic damage and injuries from a series who's protagonist is made of rubber, and contains some of the weirdest abilities in manga as a whole.
If realistic damage was applied in One Piece, Borsalino would be king in a land of corpses by now.
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How have people not gotten over Pell by now.
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@Cyan:
How have people not gotten over Pell by now.
Tossing and turning through the night, wishing death upon Pell.
That's the way forward.
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^Pell not dying is just that bad.
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You know what? If Kaidou literally breaks Doffy into pieces, I will forget about Pell and all the other walking dead. If Oda manages to bring back a sense of danger when it comes to his villains, I will forgive him his past decisions.
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The only person from here on out that Oda's going to kill will be Shanks (and probably Yasopp and maybe Mihawk.)
Everyone needs to grasp that Oda has massive hangups over killing characters unless the story literally cannot move forward without it.
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Thank you Darth for opening this thread. It was a need IMHO.
The more "we" grow up watching One Piece, the more "I and few others" think that the manga/anime doesn't live-up to the hype/match the viewers current ages.
Every time I re-watch/re-read OP to introduce a friend or a relative of mine to the series, I figure out what so childish One Piece is.
IT'S NOT A SHOUNEN MANGA ANY LONGER… at least, comparing to the other shounen current ones.A part of the blame goes to the Anime company for sure, this can be felt if you watched HxH 2011 anime, and to Oda since he is the writer of the story.
The majority percentage of viewers in Japan goes for adults and he's still showing them/us unreasonable things and they/we should not complain about since IT IS ONE PIECE, a genius master piece.
I'll name few:
- leaving Pell, Pagaya and so alive when they were supposed to die. Let's say he did mistakes before.. now I don't wanna' see him doing this again with Monet's death, which I doubt he would make her die.
- The Shegan shots into the heart.
- Usoop's broken skull and nose!!
- Falling from over 1 km from the sky and not getting even tiny scratches from it!!
- and not to forget, whenever a character wants to do something, he has to say it out loud. Even when talking to himself. That's so ridicules.
He's always wasting opportunities when he has the chance to not repeat the same mistakes again.
Don't get me wrong. I still love OP, but I wanna see a progress with these things.
Never knew a fictional story can cause so much ruckus. You guys need to go back to work and go make a living.
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The ice and music part of his fighting style makes him unique, it would be better if he doesn't need a sword and just relied on other things
Like even this would of been a better weapon that would of suited Brook's character more
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A cane sword is way overplayed too in manga, even fujitora uses one
A skeleton with a scythe is not exactly uncharted territory, either.
Besides, how would he play his violin with a big scythe?
Also, Fujitora doesn't use a cane sword. It's just a normal katana with a wooden sheath and handle and without the hilt. He doesn't even use it as a cane, but to tap the ground in front of him.
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@Cyan:
Everyone needs to grasp that Oda has massive hangups over killing characters unless the story literally cannot move forward without it.
How many bullets did Kohza take and survive? I thought the man would die for sure.
And let's not forget Iceburg. Wtf?
And he still helped building Sunny, and had more stamina than his workers. Even with a couple of bullet/finger holes.I mean, why cover them with wounds if you're not planning to kill them?
Like Jet and Abdullah (almost wrote Droy), whose necks were supposedly broken. But then again, I thought the same about Pell when Robin did him in.
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@Cyan:
The only person from here on out that Oda's going to kill will be Shanks (and probably Yasopp and maybe Mihawk.)
Everyone needs to grasp that Oda has massive hangups over killing characters unless the story literally cannot move forward without it.
Woah, woah, woah.
Have you not heard the news that Jinbei is a walking deadfishman?
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Pell's survival was actually realistic since he could have threw the bomb into the air and not taken the full blast.
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@Cyan:
The only person from here on out that Oda's going to kill will be Shanks (and probably Yasopp and maybe Mihawk.)
Everyone needs to grasp that Oda has massive hangups over killing characters unless the story literally cannot move forward without it.
I could see him killing Dragon.
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Woah, woah, woah.
Have you not heard the news that Jinbei is a walking deadfishman?
Jimbei's death is more improbable than rayleigh's, garp's, akainu's…
Actually every yonko is going to die I don't see any other alternative.You know what? If Kaidou literally breaks Doffy into pieces, I will forget about Pell and all the other walking dead. If Oda manages to bring back a sense of danger when it comes to his villains, I will forgive him his past decisions.
That would be so bad… So Dofla was the whole time just a character to hype up a yonko? How is this going to give a sense of danger to Oda's villains?
Sorry my English is not perfect.
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Oh, Pagaya's death is realistic too. People can survive being struck by lightning IRL. And volts don't kill you, amps do.
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Wasted Opportunities? Hmmm
Pell and death aside, I think if Oda decides to put Jinbei on the crew, that he wasted the chance to do it in Fishman Island.
I do think Skypeia has yet to prove it's relevance to the series. I know it will sometime, but for now it does feel like. "What? Why did we go up here?"
I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.
You won this week Fairy Tail.
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How many bullets did Kohza take and survive? I thought the man would die for sure.
And let's not forget Iceburg. Wtf?
And he still helped building Sunny, and had more stamina than his workers. Even with a couple of bullet/finger holes.I mean, why cover them with wounds if you're not planning to kill them?
Like Jet and Abdullah (almost wrote Droy), whose necks were supposedly broken. But then again, I thought the same about Pell when Robin did him in.
This is like asking how is possible for Queen Elsa to make ice from her hands and how come Anna didn't die when she was completely frozen. Oh gawd, my sides hurts.
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IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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Wasted Opportunities? Hmmm
Pell and death aside, I think if Oda decides to put Jinbei on the crew, that he wasted the chance to do it in Fishman Island.
I do think Skypeia has yet to prove it's relevance to the series. I know it will sometime, but for now it does feel like. "What? Why did we go up here?"
It wouldn't have made any sense to do it then, though.
For a variety of reasons.
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Wasted Opportunities? Hmmm
Pell and death aside, I think if Oda decides to put Jinbei on the crew, that he wasted the chance to do it in Fishman Island.
I do think Skypeia has yet to prove it's relevance to the series. I know it will sometime, but for now it does feel like. "What? Why did we go up here?"
Or maybe that tiny little bit for reading pleasure where it will be nice if the captain has higher bounty than his subordinates.
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This is like asking how is possible for Queen Elsa to make ice from her hands and how come Anna didn't die when she was completely frozen. Oh gawd, my sides hurts.
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No it's not. When I see characters in One Piece doing things normally even after getting shot/stabbed/slashed/killed a couple of times it detracts from my enjoyment a little. Don't really give a shit about Frozen (if that's what you're talking about).
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The last example would be Law. He took 3 straight shots from Doflamingo and it's like it didn't happen. I don't think he got treated either yet he is all fine. Then you have Luffy almost dying from blood loss on Fishman island and a weaker Luffy from Alabasta who just need to eat some meat to get better after receiving that hook from Crocodile. That just show you how Oda cares about that kind of stuff.
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The last example would be Law. He took 3 straight shots from Doflamingo and it's like it didn't happen. I don't think he got treated either yet he is all fine. Then you have Luffy almost dying from blood loss on Fishman island and a weaker Luffy from Alabasta who just need to eat some meat to get better after receiving that hook from Crocodile. That just show you how Oda cares about that kind of stuff.
Not saying it troubles me that much, but I often wondered what the point was. And it happens a lot.
Thanks to that, among other things, you have a situation in which a character (Monet) gets pierced through the heart, and the majority of readers probably think she's still alive.
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Not saying it troubles me that much, but I often wondered what the point was. And it happens a lot.
Surprise the readers. Even tho he doesn't kill most of his characters outside of flashback he wants to have deadly/shocking scenes. That scene with Dofla shooting Law was good but everyone knew Law was going to be fine. However, in doing this, Oda also take the risk to deceive a part of his readers who don't feel any tension anymore while reading One Piece.
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But it's gotten old around Alabasta. Seems like a cheap way to create suspense. Something more suited to Kubo than to Oda.
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Yep, and then we all freaked the fuck out when Ace actually died.
Oda's style works lol
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The thing is, when Oda kill off a character such as Ace or Whitebeard, it become everyone's favourite moment. It's so surprising and shocking because it usually never happen so you don't expect it to happen. That's why both Merry/Ace/Whitebeard deaths are memorable and loved moments. At the end Oda is doing a very good job with it.
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I think the last 3 arcs have been the worst in the series. With Punk Hazard taking the gold. One reason I don't like them is if Oda had made these arcs 5 years ago, the. They would be 60% of the length that they currently are. Honestly PH should've only taken 25 chapters. And Dressarosa is taking way too long.
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The thing is, when Oda kill off a character such as Ace or Whitebeard, it become everyone's favourite moment. It's so surprising and shocking because it usually never happen so you don't expect it to happen. That's why both Merry/Ace/Whitebeard deaths are memorable and loved moments. At the end Oda is doing a very good job with it.
…are we actually agreeing on something?
My God.
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I don't get the big problem people have with death in One Piece tbh.
When it's absolutely necessary for the story to progress, we get deaths.
Ace died so that it would harden Luffy's resolve to get stronger and ultimately become Pirate King.
Whitebeard died to end the era at the time.
Characters like Pell, Pagaya etc. really don't need to die tbh.
All the stuff about shigans and falling and whatever…we really can't expect realistic damage and injuries from a series who's protagonist is made of rubber, and contains some of the weirdest abilities in manga as a whole.
If realistic damage was applied in One Piece, Borsalino would be king in a land of corpses by now.Well Rob, usually I agree with most of what you write but I have to exclude this one.
The fans respected Oda's decision when he killed Ace and WB, even when we saw the massive changes until recently when the mera mera no mi appeared and the WB's FI survived without him.. We all agree.
But, where are the challenges that will face Luffy? For me, I lost the sense of Luffy losing a nakama to a villain.. even for BB.. the same goes for most of the fans.
That's a loss for OP manga huge name.We don't want realistic damage for Luffy's falling?! Man, I'm talking about others falling from high places such as Zoro… let's say and it happened.
I need something to bring us back to the feel of enjoyment of fights and real results like the fight between Luffy and Lucci!!@Cyan:
How have people not gotten over Pell by now.
Of course we won't!!
Until we see Oda fixing this by not making the same impression again.Never knew a fictional story can cause so much ruckus. You guys need to go back to work and go make a living.
Trolling.
You are in a website built for the fandom, but that doesn't mean that we have to act as this is normal. It's not.
OP is the only manga that I keep reading and I'll do.Syria is bleeding and the world is still watching
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I think the last 3 arcs have been the worst in the series. With Punk Hazard taking the gold. One reason I don't like them is if Oda had made these arcs 5 years ago, the. They would be 60% of the length that they currently are. Honestly PH should've only taken 25 chapters. And Dressarosa is taking way too long.
People are never done complaining about how Oda is rushing through arcs now, like off screening fights (primarily Usopp Vs. Trebol) and seemingly squishing in plot points for the end of volumes.
These arcs likely would have been longer 5 years ago, not shorter.
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People are never done complaining about how Oda is rushing through arcs now, like off screening fights (primarily Usopp Vs. Trebol) and seemingly squishing in plot points for the end of volumes.
These arcs likely would have been longer 5 years ago, not shorter.
While I agree that there are a lot of stuff that could be expanded on, I don't think they should be. I'm not saying that Oda needs to rush through his material, what I am saying is that Oda doesn't need so much going on in each arc. I only care about 40% of what has been going on this arc. And the previous 2 arcs even less than that.
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The arcs certainly would've been longer five years ago. Even I, someone who started reading the manga around ID, feel like a lot of stuff is rushed (which is also the reason why I couldn't care less about any of Dressrosa's "main" characters). PH though had the problem of focusing on useless shit for too long (cue 'running' chapters) which is a shame given the cool start the arc had. I better stop now since I'm drifting off into "things that I didn't like" territory.
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Oda rushing through arcs doesn't prevent these arc to be way too long. Punk Hazard should have been like Little Garden/Drum in term of length. But Oda is creating way too many characters and plot lines. Dressrosa has been freaking long, the main flashback hasn't even started yet, it's been 100 chapters that we have been dealing with Kinemon and Law.
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Well Rob, usually I agree with most of what you write but I have to exclude this one.
The fans respected Oda's decision when he killed Ace and WB, even when we saw the massive changes until recently when the mera mera no mi appeared and the WB's FI survived without him.. We all agree.
But, where are the challenges that will face Luffy? For me, I lost the sense of Luffy losing a nakama to a villain.. even for BB.. the same goes for most of the fans.
That's a loss for OP manga huge name.We don't want realistic damage for Luffy's falling?! Man, I'm talking about others falling from high places such as Zoro… let's say and it happened.
I need something to bring us back to the feel of enjoyment of fights and real results like the fight between Luffy and Lucci!!Ok, so how would you remedy that exactly?
Luffy already lost Ace and Merry, two things as close to him as could be without actually being part of his crew.
He's never going to kill off one of the SH's, that's how it's always been. It's not a loss.
Zoro also uses flying blade attacks and shit. If i can live with that, I can live with disproportionate falling damage.
Luffy is about to fight Doflamingo….I think that'll satisfy your need for "real results".
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Oda rushing through arcs doesn't prevent these arc to be way too long. Punk Hazard should have been like Little Garden/Drum in term of length. But Oda is creating way too many characters and plot lines. Dressrosa has been freaking long, the main flashback hasn't even started yet, it's been 100 chapters that we have been dealing with Kinemon and Law.
Oda's not only dealing with the current arc though, he's also having to intertwine it with the New World plot points that have been foreshadowed for years.
After we've been in the New World a bit longer, things will settle down and more focus can be given to individual island plot points rather than constantly also adding on over arcing ones like the Yonko and their business.
