Chapter 748: My Repayment

[Donquixote]

I wonder why certain fighters are missing from Luffy's army…

• Hack and Barto are protecting Robin and Usopp, Bellamy must be nearby(?)
• The Funk Brothers witnessed the God Usopp moment, so where are they I wonder?
• Jean Ango is a given considering he's probably hunting Luffy right now...
• Tank Lepanto and the Dressrosan Soldiers are (my guess) hunting for Riku or Kyros
• Mummy, Damask, Agyo, Rolling Logan and Acilia are all missing from the highlighted fighters crowd.
• For some reason I feel Meadows works for Kaido...not sure why

Gah so much left to see in this arc!

[Sereques]

Tank will never hunt for King Riku. Jean is probably still in the wall Chinjao smash him in.

[Katzztar]

@Sereques:

Tank will never hunt for King Riku. Jean is probably still in the wall Chinjao smash him in.

I think he meant Tank is hunting down King Riku's location so he can join him and not the type of hunt as 'hunt him down for the bounty'

[Pk Da Legend]

@Sereques:

Tank will never hunt for King Riku. Jean is probably still in the wall Chinjao smash him in.

That was my line! ;p

[SHpirates]

So i was thinking, who do you think is the strongest in Mingo's family besides him?, It should be either Diamante, Trebol or Pica, and i'd say it's hard to tell, but Pica has so much raw power, that i don't think the others could beat him. Diamante is quite strong and has a nice DF, but I think he's around Barto's lvl, the same with Trebol, he's just clumsy but extremely fast. What do you think ?? :)

[Monquito]

@SHpirates:

So i was thinking, who do you think is the strongest in Mingo's family besides him?, It should be either Diamante, Trebol or Pica, and i'd say it's hard to tell, but Pica has so much raw power, that i don't think the others could beat him. Diamante is quite strong and has a nice DF, but I think he's around Barto's lvl, the same with Trebol, he's just clumsy but extremely fast. What do you think ?? :)

Vergo, Some people still don't want to admit it but the Ases look like pussies to me compared to the BH master.

[Sparxx1]

@Monquito:

Vergo, Some people still don't want to admit it but the Ases look like pussies to me compared to the BH master.

Wait what?
You really think that vergo was stronger than trebol/diamante/pica?
Law fodderized/oneshotted him when he got his heart back even though he was
almost beaten to death. I dont think Law can do this to any of the 3 executives even
when he is full strenght.

[Pk Da Legend]

What is Barto level?

[vagabond87]

@Sparxx1:

Wait what?
You really think that vergo was stronger than trebol/diamante/pica?
Law fodderized/oneshotted him when he got his heart back even though he was
almost beaten to death. I dont think Law can do this to any of the 3 executives even
when he is full strenght.

Its what you think against what was hinted at manga.

Vergo was said by Mingo to be his companion for longest time. Same as Zoro is longest companion for Luffy and Rayleigh was to Roger.
Law even said that Mingo will loose his most valued subordinate - just before he cut him in half http://www.batoto.net/read/_/143850/one-piece_ch690_by_mangarule/14

Also Vergo thought same as Doflamingo himself that Vergos CoA will completely block even Laws cutting ability. They were sure that Law cant put a scratch on Vergo, not to mention cutting in half.
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/143850/one-piece_ch690_by_mangarule/15

Knowing that Law can cut Vergo in half non of 3 seats would let him land a cutting hit or they would avoid it as much as possible.
I would say that on paper Vergo is Doflamingos first mate, strongest underling. Then there are 3 seats and I would say that as you dont have to be stronger than enemy to win in One Piece(Monet words), Law is around as strong as any of 3 seats.

And Vergo will be revealed as metal paramecia(sorry people.. I cant help myself ) user in Laws flashback.

@Pk:

What is Barto level?

I would say its 1 Cavendish :ninja:
They were shown as rivals in a way- one against Luffy and one fanboy of Luffy/ one is ugly and good hearted and other is pretty and rotten inside/ they seem to be pirates of kind of same overall strength and kind of ying and yang kind of thing.
Each of them won each block they were part of, Barto wasnt afraid of Cavendish even in slightest when he "wanted to fight" him. They were portrayed as pretty big guns imo but we didnt seen as much from Barts fighting/ hype as we gotten for Cabbage.

[Schabrak]

@Sparxx1:

Wait what?
You really think that vergo was stronger than trebol/diamante/pica?
Law fodderized/oneshotted him when he got his heart back even though he was
almost beaten to death. I dont think Law can do this to any of the 3 executives even
when he is full strenght.

You did not understand the Vergo scene at all.

[Mirage]

@Sparxx1:

Wait what?
You really think that vergo was stronger than trebol/diamante/pica?
Law fodderized/oneshotted him when he got his heart back even though he was
almost beaten to death. I dont think Law can do this to any of the 3 executives even
when he is full strenght.

since his introduction, Vergo always underestimated Law, "you've grown", "call me vergo-san", even Dofla said Ithought of him as a little brother , dofla/vergo still remember the little weak law…, And that is why vergo got one shoted, only because he underestimated Law "remember what vergo did to you back in the day?" Vergo thought he was immune against law's power by using his haki, that's why he got one shotted. Even after his defeat vergo even dofla still think of him as a kid.

Anyone from the seats can be one shotted if they underestimate law like vergo did, hell any admiral/yonko can be one shotted by law if they underestimate him, simply because law's DF is that hax.

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As of right now, still pica didn't impress me as he should have, his power still lack something.
True that from a strength only point of view he was the most impressive, even though what did trebol was very impressive. But strength is not everything in a fight, speed/stamina/intelligence.
I will say Diamant's DF is the most powerful of the three, if Oda use it well I'm waiting some crazy shit from him, and I think he will fight against kyros.
Now that I think of it trebol's df can be useful against fujitora, like fuji throwing rocks/ships/meteor but trebol can deviate it in mid-air.

of the three seats I like trebol's more, but in the whole Donquixotte family I liked vergo the most, i hope he is not dead, pretty sure him and monet are still alive (we still don't know a lot of things about them).

And Yeah I agree barto = cavendish, if each one of them fought against one of the three executive, I think he will loose, but if they team up, I think they can win.

[Sparxx1]

@Schabrak:

You did not understand the Vergo scene at all.

Enlighten me please, dont just throw one-liners playing the cool one. You make yourself
look like you are not suited for a forum, hence making you useless.
If you cant contribute to this discussion with anything else than
that, dont interfere. Go play some games or something else till the new chapter is out.

@vagabond87:

Its what you think against what was hinted at manga.

Vergo was said by Mingo to be his companion for longest time. Same as Zoro is longest companion for Luffy and Rayleigh was to Roger.
Law even said that Mingo will loose his most valued subordinate - just before he cut him in half http://www.batoto.net/read/_/143850/one-piece_ch690_by_mangarule/14

Also Vergo thought same as Doflamingo himself that Vergos CoA will completely block even Laws cutting ability. They were sure that Law cant put a scratch on Vergo, not to mention cutting in half.
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/143850/one-piece_ch690_by_mangarule/15

Knowing that Law can cut Vergo in half non of 3 seats would let him land a cutting hit or they would avoid it as much as possible.
I would say that on paper Vergo is Doflamingos first mate, strongest underling. Then there are 3 seats and I would say that as you dont have to be stronger than enemy to win in One Piece(Monet words), Law is around as strong as any of 3 seats.

And Vergo will be revealed as metal paramecia(sorry people.. I cant help myself ) user in Laws flashback.

I would say its 1 Cavendish :ninja:
They were shown as rivals in a way- one against Luffy and one fanboy of Luffy/ one is ugly and good hearted and other is pretty and rotten inside/ they seem to be pirates of kind of same overall strength and kind of ying and yang kind of thing.
Each of them won each block they were part of, Barto wasnt afraid of Cavendish even in slightest when he "wanted to fight" him. They were portrayed as pretty big guns imo but we didnt seen as much from Barts fighting/ hype as we gotten for Cabbage.

I took the "most valuable subordinate" as not strenghtwise, but litteraly value.
He was a VA inside the marines. Thats pretty usefull to me if you think about it. That
does not mean that he is stronger than the seats.

But from what we have seen:
Trebol- pretty damn fast.
Diamante- actually we havent seen anything from him
Pica- can destroy the whole island in mere seconds and his real
body is hard to hit/find.

I may be wrong and he really was the strongest of them all
but i dont think that Oda would "kill" (not confirmed) the 2nd strongest
DD family member before the showdown between DD and SH even started.

[RamistaR]

@Sparxx1:

Enlighten me please, dont just throw one-liners playing the cool one. You make yourself
look like you are not suited for a forum, hence making you useless.
If you cant contribute to this discussion with anything else than
that, dont interfere. Go play some games or something else till the new chapter is out.

You did not understand the Schabrak post at all.

Schabrak jooooooke! Yohohoho!

But seriously, I think he was just referring to your clumsy use of the word "fodderized" to describe Vergo vs Law.

[Schabrak]

@RamistaR:

But seriously, I think he was just referring to your clumsy use of the word "fodderized" to describe Vergo vs Law.

16 chars of bingo!
@Sparxx1:

I may be wrong and he really was the strongest of them all
but i dont think that Oda would "kill" (not confirmed) the 2nd strongest
DD family member before the showdown between DD and SH even started.

Of course he could do that, if he still has three equal or nearly equal characters at his disposal.

Vergo was no seat, so he was out of the picture to begin with. We have enough Marines and support characters already, to complicate the situation even more with the traitor/double agent would take a bad affect on the plot. Conculted is okay, but not that convulted.

I won't comment on your post attacking me personaly. Child please.

[RamistaR]

@Sparxx1:

Wait what?
You really think that vergo was stronger than trebol/diamante/pica?
Law fodderized/oneshotted him when he got his heart back even though he was
almost beaten to death. I dont think Law can do this to any of the 3 executives even
when he is full strenght.

To compare Bamboo Bulbasaur with a school of Squirtel, you don't need to take Charmander Law into consideration.

[vagabond87]

@Sparxx1:

I took the "most valuable subordinate" as not strenghtwise, but litteraly value.
He was a VA inside the marines. Thats pretty usefull to me if you think about it. That
does not mean that he is stronger than the seats.

But from what we have seen:
Trebol- pretty damn fast.
Diamante- actually we havent seen anything from him
Pica- can destroy the whole island in mere seconds and his real
body is hard to hit/find.

I may be wrong and he really was the strongest of them all
but i dont think that Oda would "kill" (not confirmed) the 2nd strongest
DD family member before the showdown between DD and SH even started.

Oda could do it-finish off second in command. I dont see any reason for him not to as Yonko commanders are waiting for getting defeated by Monster Trio in near future.
Sanji was fighting Vergo and he was doing pretty good considering he was in heavily damaged body and his only and crucial mistake was to try and tank a kick.

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Whoever whatever wants to say it was not underestimating Vergo- it was. Sanji gotten cocky. Instead of further attacking with DJ based moves when Vergo was in wall for long moment, he just stood. When Vergo gotten out of a wall he was still standing with both of his arms in pockets. It would end up for him in loosing in the end same as when Luffy tried to capture Cesar for first time and ended up loosing.

Impression that I gotten was that Sanjis fighting-kicking abilities were better than Vergos(kick to face, pretty fast flight into metal wall shortly after first kick, even with cracked thinner leg bone and while attacking with one leg Sanji didnt gotten any visible damage as fight continued further for few moments) but in a bit different circumstances(healthy Sanji, no gas around, both of them aware of enemys overal strength) when Vergo would take out his bambo Sanji might have had lost with it/ there might have been very very very close fight between them.

I found cool that Oda decided to do what he did with that crack. Otherwise we would not be respecting Trebol, Pica and Diamante that much of a threat if Sanji would be shown long time ago as hands down/clearly equal to somebody who is stronger than them.

[RamistaR]

Diamante is fighting with melee weapons (except for assassination:getlost:). And Trebol is almost always in Logia form. With his crazy haki, it's hard to say if Vergo is stronger or weaker than them. That's why I consider him as dangerous as them for the time being.
As for Pica, we still don't know how to fight him, so he might indeed be far stronger than Vergo. But I doubt that.

[vagabond87]

@RamistaR:

Diamante is fighting with melee weapons (except for assassination:getlost:). And Trebol is almost always in Logia form. With his crazy haki, it's hard to say if Vergo is stronger or weaker than them. That's why I consider him as dangerous as them for the time being.
As for Pica, we still don't know how to fight him, so he might indeed be far stronger than Vergo. But I doubt that.

Vergo is strong everywhere, danger that Pica is depends on how much rocks is around him(if he is not a logia as we seen that logia like Cesar assimilated his own element and grown even bigger- shinokuni and Cesars final form).

[RamistaR]

@vagabond87:

Vergo is strong everywhere, danger that Pica is depends on how much rocks is around him(if he is not a logia as we seen that logia like Cesar assimilated his own element and grown even bigger- shinokuni and Cesars final form).

Yeah but I take for granted that Pica is always fighting wearing his lithospheric mantle.

[Devil G.]

@Monquito:

Bellamy isn't important neither.

Yeah, he hasn't been all that important so far, so? I was just pointing out that Blue Gilly wasn't as important as neither Barto nor Bellamy, and that I couldn't see him fighting an officer alone, in response to this:

@Sephi:

IMO it'd be a waste if Blue Gilley didn't. He's waaaay stronger than Abdullah, Jeet or any of those other more minor ones you mentioned. He was up there with Bellamy and Bart in terms of strength. A lack of backstory development so far does not lessen his importance. Again, it would be a complete waste to have someone so strong blend in with the weaker colloseum members.

[Sereques]

@Pk:

That was my line! ;p

I stole it from you. My bad.

[Sparxx1]

@Schabrak:

16 chars of bingo!
Of course he could do that, if he still has three equal or nearly equal characters at his disposal.

Vergo was no seat, so he was out of the picture to begin with. We have enough Marines and support characters already, to complicate the situation even more with the traitor/double agent would take a bad affect on the plot. Conculted is okay, but not that convulted.

I won't comment on your post attacking me personaly. Child please.

By saying that you were useless to this conversation i atacked you?
Your comment was indeed useless. Thats not an insult, thats fact. IF you are too bored to
give a full awnser, then keep your comments to yourself.

If i wanted to atack you, you would have noticed it and i would have
a warning from the admins. YOU are the one insulting me without knowing who i am
and completely ignoring my good will for a nice discussion.
Im merely trying to have a FRIENDLY chat here to pass some time.

Why didnt Ramistar, vagabond or any1 else comment like you did? Because
they can be talked to. You on the other hand showed that you cant take
critisicm and start throwing insults around.

I wont continue to argue with you and let you drag me down to your level.
Have a nice day.

Now lets continue
@ vagabond87

Yeah sanji got pretty cocky. Like zoro said, they shouldnt underestimate
their enemys from now on, and i think that was a message Oda sent us on PH.

@RamistaR
Yeah, fodderized may have been the wrong expression, but you get my point.
Vergo was to much focused on showing off. The clearly inferior Smoker
managed to steal Laws heart, but he still did not get serious. He went head to head
with Law thinking that he was easy prey and got one-shotted.

Raw Power alone is not what makes you win a fight, neither is Haki.
Mingo was dead serious when he fought Law, this does not mean that Vergo > Mingo
just that Vergo made a huge mistake that (propably) cost him his life.
That fact alone, IMO, makes him weaker than the 3 seats. Losing your life
because you underestimated someone means you indeed are weak. No matter how strong he
was, 2times stronger, 10 times stronger, 100 times stronger, in the end he lost and brought
this whole crisis uppon Dofla.

That does not mean that i dont like Vergo or find him weak. Nor do i want him to be dead, even though
he should be (logic-wise). He just failed without even putting out an all-out fight, to prove that he IS
one of Doflas top-dogs, which is the true meaning of weak to me.

[Razh]

This post reminds me of Mangahelpers.

[Mugiwara Maximus]

lol sparxx… Please calm down child!

[Sparxx1]

@Razh:

This post reminds me of Mangahelpers.

Is this a good or bad?

[Razh]

@Sparxx1:

Is this a good or bad?

Well, the atmosphere is different. There, the mods are pretty sensitive and uptight. Here, the mods are totally relaxed and won't ban you or warn you for going off topic and "not contributing to discussion". Just enjoy the fact that there are no 30 year old virgins curing their furstrations on forum members.

[RamistaR]

@Razh:

Well, the atmosphere is different. There, the mods are pretty sensitive and uptight. Here, the mods are totally relaxed and won't ban you or warn you for going off topic and "not contributing to discussion". Just enjoy the fact that there are no 30 year old virgins curing their furstrations on forum members.

OmG !!! I don't know why, but it's a manly post.

[Sparxx1]

@Razh:

Well, the atmosphere is different. There, the mods are pretty sensitive and uptight. Here, the mods are totally relaxed and won't ban you or warn you for going off topic and "not contributing to discussion". Just enjoy the fact that there are no 30 year old virgins curing their furstrations on forum members.

Ah ok,thanx. Didnt know, never been on that forum. Actually i dont care that they insulted me and im cool
with the mods here. Nor will i ever report a post. They make themselfes look stupid by insulting
and not giving a normal-civilised awnser. Why should we delete that evidence? It just proves that im
right.

[RamistaR]

@Sparxx1:

Ah ok,thanx. Didnt know, never been on that forum. Actually i dont care that they insulted me and im cool
with the mods here. Nor will i ever report a post. They make themselfes look stupid by insulting
and not giving a normal-civilised awnser. Why should we delete that evidence? It just proves that im
right.

OmG !!! This one isn't manly at all. Nice try with the avatar though.

[Sparxx1]

@RamistaR:

OmG !!! This one isn't manly at all. Nice try with the avatar though.

Bon-chan is the epitome of MANLY.

[juiceduphody3315]

Hahah I called the don chinjao using his returned head against pica. Was perfect. I hate how horribly drawn zoro was in the first couple panels especially when luffy and zoro were running laughing at pica…oda your better than that. I wish we could have seen Suleiman fodder some foes but I guess oda couldnt show him chopping heads :(

[Celestial D. Dragon]

@Sparxx1:

By saying that you were useless to this conversation i atacked you?
Your comment was indeed useless. Thats not an insult, thats fact. IF you are too bored to
give a full awnser, then keep your comments to yourself.

If i wanted to atack you, you would have noticed it and i would have
a warning from the admins. YOU are the one insulting me without knowing who i am
and completely ignoring my good will for a nice discussion.
Im merely trying to have a FRIENDLY chat here to pass some time.

Why didnt Ramistar, vagabond or any1 else comment like you did? Because
they can be talked to. You on the other hand showed that you cant take
critisicm and start throwing insults around.

I wont continue to argue with you and let you drag me down to your level.
Have a nice day.

Now lets continue
@ vagabond87

Yeah sanji got pretty cocky. Like zoro said, they shouldnt underestimate
their enemys from now on, and i think that was a message Oda sent us on PH.

@RamistaR
Yeah, fodderized may have been the wrong expression, but you get my point.
Vergo was to much focused on showing off. The clearly inferior Smoker
managed to steal Laws heart, but he still did not get serious. He went head to head
with Law thinking that he was easy prey and got one-shotted.

Raw Power alone is not what makes you win a fight, neither is Haki.
Mingo was dead serious when he fought Law, this does not mean that Vergo > Mingo
just that Vergo made a huge mistake that (propably) cost him his life.
That fact alone, IMO, makes him weaker than the 3 seats. Losing your life
because you underestimated someone means you indeed are weak. No matter how strong he
was, 2times stronger, 10 times stronger, 100 times stronger, in the end he lost and brought
this whole crisis uppon Dofla.

That does not mean that i dont like Vergo or find him weak. Nor do i want him to be dead, even though
he should be (logic-wise). He just failed without even putting out an all-out fight, to prove that he IS
one of Doflas top-dogs, which is the true meaning of weak to me.

Trebol let his guard down in thinking Usopp was down for the count, and ended up costing Doflamingo 10 years worth of toys.

Diamante was taking everyone in the finals lightly, and focusing mainly on insulting Rebecca, and it ended up costing Doflamingo the Mera Mera no Mi

Pica is currently letting his emotions get the best of him over Luffy laughing at his voice, and I'm willing to bet your left pinky toe, it's going to have drastic consequences.

So while your calling Vergo weak for letting his guard down, you have to equally place Trebol and Diamante in that category. (Possibly Pica in the next few up coming chapters)

[Sparxx1]

@GraphicNature:

Trebol let his guard down in thinking Usopp was down for the count, and ended up costing Doflamingo 10 years worth of toys.

Diamante was taking everyone in the finals lightly, and focusing mainly on insulting Rebecca, and it ended up costing Doflamingo the Mera Mera no Mi

Pica is currently letting his emotions get the best of him over Luffy laughing at his voice, and I'm willing to bet your left pinky toe, it's going to have drastic consequences.

So while your calling Vergo weak for letting his guard down, you have to equally place Trebol and Diamante in that category. (Possibly Pica in the next few up coming chapters)

I agree on the Diamante part. Pica may also fail but i think that now
with the real fights starting he wont have any oportunity to fail. Lose
in a fight, yes, miserably fail like Vergo and diamante? I dont know.

Also im not sure if the mera mera was as important to dofla as CC is.

Where i dont agee is Trebol.
But give that poor guy some credit. He beated any1 who came
into his sight without any effort. Sugars idiocy was not his fault.
This fail is on sugar herself.
Not even god would have seen this comming.

[Celestial D. Dragon]

@Sparxx1:

I agree on the Diamante part. Pica may also fail but i think that now
with the real fights starting he wont have any oportunity to fail. Lose
in a fight, yes, miserably fail like Vergo and diamante? I dont know.

Also im not sure if the mera mera was as important to dofla as CC is.

Where i dont agee is Trebol.
But give that poor guy some credit. He beated any1 who came
into his sight without any effort. Sugars idiocy was not his fault.
This fail is on sugar herself.
Not even god would have seen this comming.

Well the Trebol situation can be taken two different ways, after all, Sugar was his responsibility. For instance if Trebol would have just flat out killed Usopp like he should have, it would have never put SUgar in that position in the first place. Or his first priority should have been to take Sugar somewhere else, and get her out of harms way, and then come back to deal with the intruders. Instead he opted to deal with the intruders first, which placed Sugar in the position she was in, that inevitably caused her to become unconscious.

[Lawlord]

Vergo is the strongest in Dolfla's crew imo. His haki game is damn good if he didn't dive law thinking he would tank the attack he would have easily beaten law too. His speed, durability, power and techniques (sky walk, full body armament), I could see him beating any of the executives 1v1. I hope he comes back theres no way an explosion could hurt him while he is haki'd up and we know that kinemon was using haki while being segmented by law.

[Sparxx1]

@GraphicNature:

Well the Trebol situation can be taken two different ways, after all, Sugar was his responsibility. For instance if Trebol would have just flat out killed Usopp like he should have, it would have never put SUgar in that position in the first place. Or his first priority should have been to take Sugar somewhere else, and get her out of harms way, and then come back to deal with the intruders. Instead he opted to deal with the intruders first, which placed Sugar in the position she was in, that inevitably caused her to become unconscious.

Lets look at it from a different angle. You are trebol , a high ranked member of
propably one of the strongest pirate-crews. You are sure that nobody knows
the truth about sugar. Someday you encountered some tontatas (did i write it correct?)
and Ussop, beated the crap out of them and immobilized them with your DF power.
Would you have ever expected sugar to get knocked out?

Also if my memory is correct, Trebol and sugar where guarding the factory. This
means that trebol was not expecting that the real target was sugar.

Yes trebol failled in the end too, but was it really his fault? He never underestimated any1 whereas Vergo and Diamante where cocky as hell.

Some1 said that trebol had the task to take care of sugar and the factory and this means that mingo is putting alot of faith in our sticky friend.
Maybe he is more serious and reliable than the rest of the executives.

[SHpirates]

@Monquito:

Vergo, Some people still don't want to admit it but the Ases look like pussies to me compared to the BH master.

ohh yeah forgot about him, he diffenently had strong haki!

[Razh]

It's not like Trebol has proven himself as a great bodyguard. Unless making his glue explode right next to her can be considered as great protection. Not to mention crashing a ship on her head through the ceiling.

Only by sheer luck did she survive long enough to be knocked out by Usopp's scary face and scream. Cringes

[King Cannon]

Pica would've been a much better bodyguard. :/

@Lawlord:

Vergo is the strongest in Dolfla's crew imo. His haki game is damn good if he didn't dive law thinking he would tank the attack he would have easily beaten law too. His speed, durability, power and techniques (sky walk, full body armament), I could see him beating any of the executives 1v1. I hope he comes back theres no way an explosion could hurt him while he is haki'd up and we know that kinemon was using haki while being segmented by law.

I hope you're not thinking Haki is everything in a fight. Luffy showed the Boa Sisters that's not the case.

[Lawlord]

@King:

Pica would've been a much better bodyguard. :/

I hope you're not thinking Haki is everything in a fight. Luffy showed the Boa Sisters that's not the case.

Of course it's not "everything" but at the same time a strong haki user can be very powerful. I recall somebody by the name of Shanks who seems to be quite good with haki.

Vergo had speed, high durability and high strength with his haki and we haven't seen anybody in the story other than him do a full body armament. While armament haki differs in strength level (Vergo easily beat Smokers level) all I'm saying is that it's one of Vergo's strong points and is why I think he is the First mate of the Dolfa crew.

Trebol is a logia with what seems like high observational haki skills. Vergo has shown to be able to deal with logia users and has strong observational and armament haki. Diamante didn't seem very impressive versus Sabo the only attack he used was his sword which was broken by Sabo. Diamante didn't show any speed either. If Vergo was in that Colosseum I imagine him at least forcing an exchange with Sabo. In terms of Pika I think Vergo's durability could easily tank hits and his haki could injure Pica and perhaps his observation could find the appropriate target.

Perhaps we will see more from the 3 seats than we did Vergo but at the moment I feel that Vergo is stronger.

[Sparxx1]

@Razh:

It's not like Trebol has proven himself as a great bodyguard. Unless making his glue explode right next to her can be considered as great protection. Not to mention crashing a ship on her head through the ceiling.

Only by sheer luck did she survive long enough to be knocked out by Usopp's scary face and scream. Cringes

Now that you mentioned this. Was it anywhere mentioned how the whole sugar thing works? Knocking her out is the same
as screaming into her face and scaring the shit out of her? Then what about sleep? What if she is bathing, slips and hits her head? If she eats a grape and suffocates from it?
Are these trebols resposibilities too?

[Monquito]

A flag, a rock and a Cola Loca can't do shit against Law, or probably the Cola Loca can, but the flag and the rock nope, he's a modification man, it has more control over shit than Diamante and Pica does.

[joesephes]

Well, judging from this thread, it seems that i'm not the only one who doesn't find Pica impressive.

Good to know. :)

[Devil G.]

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[peeko]

@SHpirates:

So i was thinking, who do you think is the strongest in Mingo's family besides him?, It should be either Diamante, Trebol or Pica, and i'd say it's hard to tell, but Pica has so much raw power, that i don't think the others could beat him. Diamante is quite strong and has a nice DF, but I think he's around Barto's lvl, the same with Trebol, he's just clumsy but extremely fast. What do you think ?? :)

Dude trebol swinged a freaking ship like it was nothing and sniped the **** out of a fly, destroying the wall on the side… I mean he seems pretty damn strong to me lol

[SHpirates]

yeah well in a one vs one i'd still put him at barto's lvl …

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@SHpirates:

yeah well in a one vs one i'd still put him at barto's lvl …

his haki does not seem so great, and his DF i quite good, but narh he got tricked by Ussop…

[Lark]

This was a really great chapter. I laughed through most of it and, well it was just so fun to read!

[Razh]

@SHpirates:

his haki does not seem so great, and his DF i quite good, but narh he got tricked by Ussop…

His Haki wasn't exposed enough to deem it good or bad.

Judging by his precision, his Observation might be pretty good.

[Beowulf89]

I just realized a few things about the tournament.

Almost everyone whose "gimmick" we understand, is now allied to the Strawhats. With a few exceptions, those people were mostly in blocks B and C, which got the most attention so far. The reason we didn't get to see much of block D, is that a large number of the contestants therein will end up as opponents for the bock B and C allies of the Strawhats. The ones from block C that aren't established as allies to the Strawhats? Jean Ango is a sniper who throws weapons, in a non-arena style fight, he'd be much more dangerous. Kelly Funk is able to take over anyone's body with his power and specifically calls out wild beasts as acceptable targets, when he appears as an enemy, he'll have taken over one of the animals in Doflamingo's kingdom. Bobby probably won't end up fighting due to his timid nature. From block D we have four other people who we never really saw fight or don't even have an idea of their style.

Rolling Logan, Meadows, Damask, Mummy, Jean Ango and Kelly Funk (probably using the fighting lion as a host body), will be opposed to Luffy and his tenuous alliance, letting the Colosseum fighters show off a bit more than before, and maybe give us explanations on some of their gimmicks.

[Z0R0]

Sorry to be that guy, but isn't this supposed to be a week with no chapter? I haven't heard anything regarding an absence this week