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    • joekido the Second
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      Since I can't find a general Zelda topic or any topics about this game I decided to make a thread. This game comes out in November 22 for the 3DS. Beware though it's full of spoilers so I'm going to tell you a story of this game:

      ! basically the story is a near rehash of LTTP; find three pandents and rescue 7 Sages.

      I'm never gonna trust anything that comes out of Aonuma's again because he said the story is gonna be original.

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        Uhhh where did you hear that that was the whole plot? There definitely seems to be at least a bit more than that

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          @Purple:

          Uhhh where did you hear that that was the whole plot? There definitely seems to be at least a bit more than that

          This site is full of spoilers: http://www.zeldainformer.com/ and here too: http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page

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            This site is full of spoilers: http://www.zeldainformer.com/ and here too: http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page

            I know some of that stuff occurs, and I've seen a lot of previews that talk about early game story, but nothings really come up about the end game story stuff. And any huge developments will be guarded by an embargo. We knew the 7 sages and the three pendants would involved for a long time, but you're "full synopsis" ignores that there are a lot of other elements we still know nothing about: Namely pretty much anything involving Lorule and what it is

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              No specific source? Because looking through both of those sites they don't have any indication that the plot is as you say it is. And yeah, all the Lorule stuff still needs to be explored. The pendants were basically a given based on early trailers.

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                @Purple:

                No specific source? Because looking through both of those sites they don't have any indication that the plot is as you say it is.

                I get the feeling that since the site seems to be just compiling info from other sites, it'll be the same stuff I've seen, which is really only early game stuff, and is clearly not important enough for Nintendo to embargo. Remember, Nintendo has rules on what these sites are allowed to actually reveal, and I've heard Nintendo has some of the most in detail embargos in that regard. I really doubt they'd let any of the really big plot points that we haven't already seen in trailers and stuff be revealed

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                  anything to do with majora's mask? i heard there were easter eggs or something and a ''surprise''

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                    @abyssal_snarf:

                    anything to do with majora's mask? i heard there were easter eggs or something and a ''surprise''

                    Nobody knows who isn't specifically banned from telling, since I'm sure that stuff would be included in the embargos. Joekido has clearly not played the game himself, and we're limited entirely by what game news sources with review copies are allowed to say (and Nintendo too, but they'll obviously say even less)

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                        @Aaronrules380:

                        Nobody knows who isn't specifically banned from telling, since I'm sure that stuff would be included in the embargos. Joekido has clearly not played the game himself, and we're limited entirely by what game news sources with review copies are allowed to say (and Nintendo too, but they'll obviously say even less)

                        i have no idea when this game even comes out. i havnt been paying attention lol. LTTP tho was a game of my childhood ❤

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                          I was only to tell story bits. But since you want me to explian more, fine here's my gist on Lorule. Lorule was almost like the Dark World but sightly different. Lorule's Death Mountian is snowed, Lake Hylia is a swamp, A castle is where the power pyrimid should be. However thr song is a remix version of the Dark World. Any more questions?

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                          There is a Majora's mask in Ravio's shop

                          Again, no source, and we all knew about the Majora's Mask in Ravio's Shop. And even if all these things come true, that doesn't mean that the plot won't be different from previous Zelda games, especially with the hint that there may be a connection to MM at the end.

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                            @Purple:

                            Again, no source, and we all knew about the Majora's Mask in Ravio's Shop. And even if all these things come true, that doesn't mean that the plot won't be different from previous Zelda games, especially with the hint that there may be a connection to MM at the end.

                            The source? I just provide it. You have to read all ALBW-related articles on Zeldainformer

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                              Ain't nobody got time to look through a Zelda Aggregator website

                              And even if that is true, that doesn't necessarily mean that Aonuma is lying. As Aaronrules points out, anything actually spoilerific would be hit with an embargo

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                                Not a single article has said anything past the first few hours. Which is because they can't. And I'm pretty sure Aonuma said the Majora's Mask tie-in was more than the mask in link's house (which becomes ravio's shop) and that it was something related to the game's ending. So yeah, we know nothing about that

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                                  Be careful with spoilers, some of the stuff in that conversation was on the verge of spoiling the story.

                                  Spoiler tags are your friends.

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                                    These aren't spoilers, they're nothing.
                                    Practically every Zelda game has had its entire plot stuctured around finding macguffins/rescuing people in a varying number of dungeons.
                                    The first three being a sort of extended tutorial ending with you (usually) receiving the master sword.
                                    Anybody who saw the last trailer would have known you'd be rescuing people.
                                    With so few details about the characters and world this comes of as less "full on spoilers" and more trying to start a hate thread.

                                    NintendoNetworkID:NJMancini, please leave a message saying you're from AP

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                                      @WarshipArc:

                                      These aren't spoilers, they're nothing.
                                      Practically every Zelda game has had its entire plot stuctured around finding macguffins/rescuing people in a varying number of dungeons.
                                      The first three being a sort of extended tutorial ending with you (usually) receiving the master sword.
                                      Anybody who saw the last trailer would have known you'd be rescuing people.
                                      With so few details about the characters and world this comes of as less "full on spoilers" and more trying to start a hate thread.

                                      this.

                                      it's like saying "spoilers the next one piece arc revolves around the strawhats getting split up on an unfamiliar island and they become the champions of this oppressed group of people and end up fighting the bad guys"

                                      It's Manga, Baby. (One Piece Revisited)

                                      Not All Pokemon are Created Equal. Lord of Djinn (now on Steam!)

                                      SugoiTees

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                                        Oceanhorn hits the appstores tonight, and mother of god it looks amazing.

                                        What? I'm in the wrong thread?

                                        AM I? 👅

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                                          It sort of sounds like the original Zelda game set in the LTTP universe…I'm intrigued...

                                          moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon

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                                            I'm up for a game that is like Zelda

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                                            I can't find it...it releases today right?

                                            Steam Friend Code ---> 48796480

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                                              Official website is up http://www.zelda.com/link-between-worlds/

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                                                I don't know if this was talked about earlier, but the feature to rent special items instead of finding them is kinda interesting. From a design perspective, I can imagine it heavily breaking down the linearity. On the one hand, I'm not sure how it will work given Nintendo's recent track record to hold the player's hand as much as possible. Like, I'm imagining a scenario involving auto-reading a flat out obvious sign or dialogue telling you that you should not enter this dungeon without x item. On the other hand, I can imagine it being frustrating for those that don't like backtracking when they happen to enter a dungeon without an item that corresponds to the dungeon's puzzles. I want to guess that using these items are mostly optional or just serve to cut huge gaps or shortcuts, but I don't know. I'm only looking at the feature from what is said on the website (that, and I haven't followed any articles of this game… due to my loss of interests in new Zelda games).

                                                But yeah, I'm kinda surprised they are changing the formula up a bit.

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                                                  @Hiroy:

                                                  I don't know if this was talked about earlier, but the feature to rent special items instead of finding them is kinda interesting. From a design perspective, I can imagine it heavily breaking down the linearity. On the one hand, I'm not sure how it will work given Nintendo's recent track record to hold the player's hand as much as possible. Like, I'm imagining a scenario involving auto-reading a flat out obvious sign or dialogue telling you that you should not enter this dungeon without x item. On the other hand, I can imagine it being frustrating for those that don't like backtracking when they happen to enter a dungeon without an item that corresponds to the dungeon's puzzles. I want to guess that using these items are mostly optional or just serve to cut huge gaps or shortcuts, but I don't know. I'm only looking at the feature from what is said on the website (that, and I haven't followed any articles of this game… due to my loss of interests in new Zelda games).

                                                  But yeah, I'm kinda surprised they are changing the formula up a bit.

                                                  From what I've heard from previews and the like, there's pretty much no handholding in this game. There are SOMETIMES icons outside dungeons indicating the item you'll need in them (and I don't see this being any different from knowing you'll use an item in the dungeon it's found in anyways). The only review out now (Due to the embargo being down for print magazines, but up for internet sources) is game informer, who gave it a perfect score (and before someone says they did that for skyward sword as well, it was a different reviewer apparently and this one has supposedly only done the wind waker HD review in terms of Zelda reviews)

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                                                    Reviews are out and it's pretty much 9s and a ton of 10s everywhere. Except destructoid who gave it a 6.5, but given that they have a record of doing stuff like that, I really don't give a shit

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                                                      Time to see what Nintendolife had to say…

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                                                        @Aaronrules380:

                                                        Reviews are out and it's pretty much 9s and a ton of 10s everywhere. Except destructoid who gave it a 6.5, but given that they have a record of doing stuff like that, I really don't give a shit

                                                        Actually the Destructoid review was really heartfelt and I got some real sincere vibes from it. Considering the state of game journos I'm not likely to ever believe in close to perfect scores that just sort of read like half a press release and half "I'm having so much fun hahaa!!", but a 6.5 that's heavily elaborated upon gives me a hell of a lot more information on what to expect than the other reviews I've read.

                                                        Like in a perfect world nobody should have to justify a 6.5 since that should still be a pretty fine score and Chris's review read as such. It was the only review that really gave me an idea of what to expect more than just fluffy hype, but I only read a few of the major site ones other than CHris's.

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                                                          @Holy:

                                                          Like in a perfect world nobody should have to justify a 6.5 since that should still be a pretty fine score and Chris's review read as such. It was the only review that really gave me an idea of what to expect more than just fluffy hype, but I only read a few of the major site ones other than CHris's.

                                                          Its the ABC mentality of the school system ingrained in everyone's minds. Rather than 50% being average, that's well below failing to most people. So anything less than an 8 is not good, generally.

                                                          WHy I liked Play magazines "no scores" policy near the end of the mags run. It was all about the reviews, and they tried to put people that liked the genres onto it.

                                                          But yes, that 6.5 is way more helpful than almost any other review.

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                                                            I'll agree that reviews today are bad, but after reading the destructoid review and a few others, I can't agree with it. It seems way too much like click bait for one thing, and there are way too many things he complains about that contradict pretty much every other review I've seen of the game. Like, he complains about the sectioning off of the dark world, but most other reviewers I've seen thought it actually worked really well and was puzzle like in its own way. I've just been reading a thread in GAF about how reviewers focus to much on their own experience, and not the why, and I kind of feel like this guy was no better. He says really vague things, but pretty much never gives any solid examples. I'm not saying the guy was lying or anything, but his review didn't really analyze the aspects of the game all that well. He just spurts out things like: All the games dungeons were easy for me, without ever saying why. I get game reviews aren't totally objective, but this guy is looking far too much into how the game worked for him

                                                            Not to mention that destructoid has a history of giving vastly lower scores than anyone else to really popular games, which makes me suspect of it as well

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                                                              Agree with Aaron. The fact that scores are tremendously over inflated in normal gaming reviews and 5 should be an average doesn't mean the destructoid review is in any way better.

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                                                                The Destructoid review is just fine. It's not clickbait.

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                                                                  I mean like, it's cool, he didn't think that some aspects of the game were that great even though other reviewers thought it was great. It's think that in and of itself is fine, else all reviews would have a single consistency to them. You don't have to agree with them, but I wouldn't dismiss it just because they say it's only a decent game.

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                                                                    Got this today and so far it's been great. THat said, I've only gotten past the first dungeon and collected the zora flippers and power glove which I think you need to access the next two.

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                                                                      Got mine yesterday along with the 3DS XL. It's fantastic. Although feels like more of a nostalgia trip. I seemed to speed through the first three dungeons so I'm guessing it's as long as Link to the Past overall.

                                                                      Did an unboxing of it myself.

                                                                      Oh hey, I do videos on figures and manga and stuff: https://www.youtube.com/thatmanhismerch

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                                                                        that's quite a brogue you've got there

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                                                                          Enjoying this so far, but like with so many recent Nintendo titles (hell, most major publisher titles), it seems really short. Already gotten through light world + three dark world dungeons (out of 7 + presumably final jumbo castle). So… I'll have it beaten in two days. The puzzles are really creative, but not difficult in the least.

                                                                          Oh, and Gamestop game me a free OoS download code as a bonus for preordering. That was nice of them.

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                                                                            This game is great, just easy.

                                                                            Praise our king, First fist of the Sea, DonMarimo DoBuggino exploring Bonesbeard.

                                                                            If someone seriously claimed that Whitebeard was running a vibrator business as his second job you'd ignore him as a troll.

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                                                                              This game is great, just easy.

                                                                              After you beat it there is a hero mode I hear where you take 3 times the damage.

                                                                              Not sure if hearts are impossible to find as well like Wind Waker though.

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                                                                                Not sure if hearts are impossible to find as well like Wind Waker though.

                                                                                Hinscher what?

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                                                                                  Hinscher what?

                                                                                  What you mean what?

                                                                                  In hero mode for wind waker you don't find hearts anywhere, you can only refil your health by potions or fairies.

                                                                                  I was just stating I don't know if that is the case for Link Between Worlds Hero mode. I just heard that you take 3x damage, instead of WW 2x damage for hero mode.

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                                                                                    instead of WW 2x damage for hero mode.

                                                                                    The WiiU remake? You lost me at hearts being impossible to find.

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                                                                                      The WiiU remake? You lost me at hearts being impossible to find.

                                                                                      Yea the Wii U remake.

                                                                                      You no longer get hearts from cutting grass, breaking rocks, pots, ect if your in Hero mode on Wind Waker for the Wii U.

                                                                                      I haven't heard if same for Link Between Worlds though. Like I said, all I heard was that you take 3x damage in hero mode. Which would make the game harder. Especilaly considering you start with 3 hearts and bosses sometimes can do 1 heart damage themselves, so it could be 1 hit KO for first boss.

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                                                                                        Oh well that'll be fun. I'm a fan of ridiculous challenges that the 99% will just throw their hands up at, although a straight-up damage increase is about as lacking in creativity as you can get. I mean, they could've at least done increased/varied mobs…
                                                                                        But yeah. Bosses will be the hardest part of that. They do massive damage even on normal mode, and invincibility grace period is practically non-existent.

                                                                                        EDIT: Beat another two dark world dungeons since last posting. Really fun; really short and easy.

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                                                                                          Alright, slaved over a hot 3DS to finish it. As a game, I like the approach they took to make it so that you could attack it from whatever direction you wanted. Bosses definitely were the hardest part, but overall it was still a fairly easy game. Still less handholding, and for the extra stuff it took a bit of creativity to figure out what to do, so that was nice. I think the story wasn't too engaging, though. Idk what I was expecting, but I didn't feel too strongly for the seven sages or anyone really.

                                                                                          Nothing big, but concerning stuff at the end…

                                                                                          ! Also, if we're going by the seven sages of past, shouldn't Zelda be counted amongst them as she was in Alttp and OoT? And watching the ending I felt like I was getting my hopes up for linking this to Majora's Mask, but I didn't see anything.

                                                                                          Still a good game, but I don't think I'd rate it as one of the higher Zeldas

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                                                                                            Managed to scrape through the last boss fight with barely any health left after using two fairies. Liked the ending, though I had guessed at some of the twists. Very fun game, though it's definitely easier than ALTTP based on having played a bit of that easily. Had 7 deaths at the end of the game. I found all the maimais and all but 6 heart pieces (given that I had two at the end with two more hearts to complete the second row). Gonna tackle hero mode in a bit, expecting to get utterly destroyed given that enemies do 4 times the damage

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                                                                                              I was thinking of getting this, but if it's really that short…maybe not until it gets second-hand cheap.

                                                                                              I mean, LttP was quick to play through when you know where things were, so I guess it's true in that respect. Maybe I'm just recalling that I was young when I played LttP and new to that kind of RPG so it took me a month of visits to my grandparents' house to complete it.

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                                                                                                I clocked in at around 16 hours. It's still longer than LTTP as well. And I had a bunch of other mini games and such that I didn't do much. And I've yet to try hero mode, where enemies do four times the damage. And the whole experience is pretty fantastic

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                                                                                                  Best Zelda in years.

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                                                                                                    You know, all things considered (end game spoilers below)

                                                                                                    ! Ravio's identity should have been obvious the moment he appeared from his purple RABBIT costume. Considering what link turned into in LTTP dark world. I mean it's actually genius.

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                                                                                                      @Aaronrules380:

                                                                                                      You know, all things considered (end game spoilers below)

                                                                                                      ! Ravio's identity should have been obvious the moment he appeared from his purple RABBIT costume. Considering what link turned into in LTTP dark world. I mean it's actually genius.

                                                                                                      ! Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. Along with the question of "where is alternate dimension Link?" although I don't recall seeing the counterparts to the sages, so…
                                                                                                      ! Wonder if the bird is supposed to be an alternate universe counterpart to Link's various fairy friends, too.

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                                                                                                        Pick the game a while back and I'm really enjoying the game so far even though the dungeons are short. This might be the first 3ds game I have that I'm actually using the 3d because it look so gorgeous.

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