Naruto and Bleach IV- Sexy time

Purple Hermit

@The:

^ that's my major issue too. Aside from the fact that Soul biology ping-pongs between "just as with humans!" and "people almost don't age (except when they do) and can survive bisections".

Its like Kubo is trying to have his cake and eat it too; On the one hand he's spewing science facts, on the other Rukia goes "…and I can survive at absolute zero because shut up reishi magic".

But since Kubo is Kubo, even the bullshit fantasy explanation viewed by itself makes no sense.

-In order to avoid dying from the blistering cold, I have learned to momentarily kill myself!
-All my molecules are rendered completely immobile. Which is why I can move around at supersonic speeds!
-This technique is so dangerous that my body can only handle it for four seconds. Naturally, this creates a state of mind where I am totally impervious to fear!

Also, fucking lol that "fear" is now physical molecules that can be rendered inert, or frozen with big chunks of ice. Also, does this mean that the instant Rukias body starts heating up after the fight, she'll start spazzing out from fear?

The logic is that "Fear" is something in all living things, living things apparently being anything made up of molecules.

So I guess even these things I have at my desk have a fear associated with them. My lamp must fear me.

Daz

I eagerly await the day where science has advanced so far that I can isolate Indicisiveness and Arrogance molecules from my cell cultures.

Aru

@werewulfking:

But it actually is possible as his whole body is rubber in that case. Sure the actual phSical properties of rubber are stretched to the maximum but it is theretically possible. But kubo is literally blowing away all physical possibility of his ideas.

No, no it is not. Mate, I love OP, but let's not forget that everything has flaws in our hate of Bleach and Naruto. Luffy can't bite his finger into the bone, pomp air inside and make all of it huge. Bones aren't connected that way, air can't travel from the small bone in his finger to the rest of the bones in his body. If it was him biting and putting air inside his veins? Yeah, okay, that's a "maybe", but what he does? Nope.

And let's not talk about this any more, we have enough stuff in Bleach and NAruto to talk about and how shitty it is.

Bigivel

@Purple:

The logic is that "Fear" is something in all living things, living things apparently being anything made up of molecules.

So I guess even these things I have at my desk have a fear associated with them. My lamp must fear me.

Yep, is obvious it was that what Kubo was trying to show, but he doesn't really know nothing of science nor common sense. Fear is an abstract emotion and every emotion comes from the brain. I don't really know where the molecules comes into play. She only needed to say that she froze her brain and with reishi she was controlling her body from other place(given that reishi can control you even when you dead, remotely controlling is a much better solution).

Probably Kubo confused the effects of fear with fear itself? Given that when a person feels fear hormones are spread throughout or bodies and certain Cells(? I know that is something but not if Cells or some more complexes structures) expel certain chemists. Some animals have a enough developed nose to be able to smell them and so they can "know"(have a better understanding of) other animals state of mind. Dogs can do that and so they can literally smell a person fear and probably other emotions.

Purple Hermit

Yo man that's just cold

as ice

Nobodyman

Also, Naruto has now died and will soon be resurrected. Hence the Jesus symbolism has come full circle.

Razh

Wow, wonder what her Bankai can do then.

Too bad we won't see it now, since As Nodt is already defeated… Yeah, give me a break. Every fight follows the same template. Now he'll use his Vollstandig and Rukia will use her Bankai after she realizes he's too much to handle in Shikai.

Byakuya must be one hell of a monster now...

Frankly, that's all I want to see, Kenpachi and Byakuya fight. Ichigo isn't even interesting any more.

As for Naruto, we get a glimpse of how good it could have been, here and there, but that's it. Now we have Madara sporting a new hairstyle and new clothes since absorbing beasts and it's not even his final form...

Bigivel

@Aru:

No, no it is not. Mate, I love OP, but let's not forget that everything has flaws in our hate of Bleach and Naruto. Luffy can't bite his finger into the bone, pomp air inside and make all of it huge. Bones aren't connected that way, air can't travel from the small bone in his finger to the rest of the bones in his body. If it was him biting and putting air inside his veins? Yeah, okay, that's a "maybe", but what he does? Nope.

And let's not talk about this any more, we have enough stuff in Bleach and NAruto to talk about and how shitty it is.

but that makes part of One Piece fiction, or does fear molecules(or whatever) and moving body but immovable molecules, and dead but alive controlling makes part of Bleach fiction? Since when? Was it at least well explained? Or just thrown in this chapter.

Basically what I'm saying is that bringing something from real life laws and exaggerate/make a little(or a lot :P) different it in your work of fiction is OK(of course it depends how is showed.), but having things in your fiction that contradict others things in your fiction is a NO NO. Unless in Bleach fiction being dead and being alive, staying immovable and moving aren't the same as in real life laws and aren't mutually exclusive, than that is not OK.
True be said Kubo could spend sometime and explain how everything works and how all the strange concepts that he throws come and so making that all good and all, but when he just throws things, gives them importance but doesn't explain them further than they have to come from someplace, in this case the real world, more because he used some scientific real life terms to describe what was happening.

If Oda had taken what Luffy did in Gear 3rd and used real life terms and than stopped the explanation half way, than even I would call it bullshit. If he just shows Luffy blowing air in his finger and all of his hand getting bigger than that is acceptable.
Kubo could do like One Piece and give little explanation, she could say that she doesn't feel fear because right now she is frozen and no emotion affects her, I would be OK(even though right now I am probably totally prejudiced with Bleach and would find any excuse to say is bullshit :P, but that is Kubo fault too, for bullshitting me so many times). Or he could do like Toriko and explain what is the phenomenon in real life and than say how it diverged in the fiction(of course he would have to take back the I'm dead but alive, I'm immovable but moving and the fear molecules). Or he could even create the system of fear molecules and of what in reality happened with Rukia and with her immovability.

Rayo

I don't care at all.. But this mysterious barefooted guy is most likely him.

Daz

Oh god I forgot about the amazing Umbilical Anaconda freak show man. yeah thats probably him.
So lets see

We need a few chapters to bring Naruto and Sasuke back to life
Swirly spiral dude needs to be stopped and revealed
Then Zetsubito needs to be taken down
Madara faffs about in über mode, gets his other eye, faffs about some more
INFINITE MOON HYPNOSIS

That should be at least a good few months, if not half a year given the inevitable flashbacks.

Is the JuubiTree even still there? Has the eyeball flower been on pause mode all this time? Do we have to reset the damn 15 minutes?

MetaMario

@Rayo:

I don't care at all.. But this mysterious barefooted guy is most likely him.

Oh god that's right, Kabuto is still scuttling around somewhere. Because this war definitely needs another villain….

andre

@Nobodyman:

Also, Naruto has now died and will soon be resurrected. Hence the Jesus symbolism has come full circle.

So Gaara was Lazarus?

No Maam

@The:

Also, does this mean that the instant Rukias body starts heating up after the fight, she'll start spazzing out from fear?

I would pay to see that. Would make this whole chapter worthwhile.

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@Razh:

Frankly, that's all I want to see, Kenpachi and Byakuya fight. Ichigo isn't even interesting any more.

I agree with the latter, but not with giving more screentime to the two worst written captains of the Gotei 13.

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@The:

Oh god I forgot about the amazing Umbilical Anaconda freak show man. yeah thats probably him.
So lets see

We need a few chapters to bring Naruto and Sasuke back to life

Swirly spiral dude needs to be stopped and revealed

Then Zetsubito needs to be taken down

Madara faffs about in über mode, gets his other eye, faffs about some more

INFINITE MOON HYPNOSIS

That should be at least a good few months, if not half a year given the inevitable flashbacks.

Is the JuubiTree even still there? Has the eyeball flower been on pause mode all this time? Do we have to reset the damn 15 minutes?

I don't read Naruto but even I feel fatigued and apathetic after reading that.

Coby

I liked both chapters. I don't take either series seriously anymore so I have no problem excusing Absolute Zero and Madara's horrible design. They were cool and that's all I needed.

God of Skypeia

The Spiral Zetsu is most likely Yamato. I just really want to see Ichigo's zanpaktou's abilities and Kenpachi's shikai and bankai. Maybe Karin learned to do that after Sasuke stabbed her.

Nobodyman

I thought Kabuto was stuck in an eternal fantasy world Kurama jutsu.

Oh who am I kidding? Like that means anything.

God of Skypeia

@Nobodyman:

I thought Kabuto was stuck in an eternal fantasy world Kurama jutsu.

Oh who am I kidding? Like that means anything.

His chakra fought off the asspull.

Razh

@No:

I agree with the latter, but not with giving more screentime to the two worst written captains of the Gotei 13.

Doesn't have much to do with how well they are written, just want to see how bad they pawn their opponents.

Apart from those two, we really deserve to see Ukitake, Shunsui and Urahara going all out.

Rayo

Kabuto confirmed for new nakama

Razh

If anyone can escape something like that, it's Kabuto. He's probably the most intelligent character in Naruto. I'm disappointed by the way Kishi handled him, because he showed so much potential early on. Could have been quite an opponent even without the snake crap. It was awesome how he learned how to move his body in a couple of seconds, after having his nerve impulses fucked up by Tsunade.

Nidhoeggr

@Razh:

If anyone can escape something like that, it's Kabuto. He's probably the most intelligent character in Naruto. I'm disappointed by the way Kishi handled him, because he showed so much potential early on. Could have been quite an opponent even without the snake crap. It was awesome how he learned how to move his body in a couple of seconds, after having his nerve impulses fucked up by Tsunade.

This is the kind of opponent and intelligence that is needed in action series that try to be praised for their "tactical fights", sadly most mangaka abandon this soon.

Enzeru

@Razh:

If anyone can escape something like that, it's Kabuto. He's probably the most intelligent character in Naruto. I'm disappointed by the way Kishi handled him, because he showed so much potential early on. Could have been quite an opponent even without the snake crap. It was awesome how he learned how to move his body in a couple of seconds, after having his nerve impulses fucked up by Tsunade.

Doesn't he just have to 'be himself' in order to escape the loop? Sounds to me like even a monkey could manage that much.

Razh

@Enzeru:

Doesn't he just have to 'be himself' in order to escape the loop? Sounds to me like even a monkey could manage that much.

I think he needs to reach that conclusion before he can manage it. I could see him figuring out how to break the loop with the use of wits. If only I wasn't sure Kishi doesn't care that much about it any more.

Nobodyman

@Enzeru:

Doesn't he just have to 'be himself' in order to escape the loop? Sounds to me like even a monkey could manage that much.

No, because it's some kind of deep introspection thing where Kabuto looks inside himself, discovering his own self-worth and my god Naruto is the gayest manga ever.

Razh

@Nidhoeggr:

This is the kind of opponent and intelligence that is needed in action series that try to be praised for their "tactical fights", sadly most mangaka abandon this soon.

Yeah, it's a shame Naruto turned into big flashy fights so fast. It was much more interesting when actual "fighting" was prevalent. Yes, there were still tactics involved in part 2, but they were put into second plan, since putting out more destructive jutsu became more important.
Well, important thing is Naruto has wind chakra nature, so he can use all kings of wind jutsu to make his fighting style more versatile and interesting. Wait no, he didn't learn any new jutsu since Jiraiya taught him Rasengan. When I think of how failed Kabuto's development was, I can't not think about Naruto.

Daz

@Razh:

I think he needs to reach that conclusion before he can manage it. I could see him figuring out how to break the loop with the use of wits. If only I wasn't sure Kishi doesn't care that much about it any more.

But if he does that, how will Kabuto get his RAINBOWS AND SUNSHINE change of heart to the heroes side?

Aru

@Rayo:

Kabuto confirmed for new nakama

http://s1.directupload.net/images/140205/928ekfzd.jpg

I contracted "stupid" in my brain just by reading these two speech bubbles alone.

Cyclone_Baroness

@Nobodyman:

No, because it's some kind of deep introspection thing where Kabuto looks inside himself, discovering his own self-worth and my god Naruto is the gayest manga ever.

It's basically the "Sit in a corner and think about what you did justu"

Purple Hermit

@Cyclone_Baroness:

It's basically the "Sit in a corner and think about what you did justu"

More like the "deep introspective thoughts during shower time jutsu"

choperman

I wish someone would use that jutsu on Sauske and make him stop being such a tremendous douche

EDIT: Or just let him die… I'm cool with that

Roland_Deschain

so, um, wasn´t hitsugayas zanpaktou supposed to be the most powerful ice based? thats gonna be one awkward reunion…

also, i love the thread title this time, thats my favorite family guy quote

! >! >! :ninja:

pyromonki

@Roland_Deschain:

so, um, wasn´t hitsugayas zanpaktou supposed to be the most powerful ice based? thats gonna be one awkward reunion…

also, i love the thread title this time, thats my favorite family guy quote

! >! >! :ninja:

I don't care if you're joking, I'll wreck you m8.

And I think Rukia's power is supposed to just be "cold" and hitsugaya's just ice or something.

Either way it's bad business.

saringe015

@Roland_Deschain:

so, um, wasn´t hitsugayas zanpaktou supposed to be the most powerful ice based? thats gonna be one awkward reunion…

also, i love the thread title this time, thats my favorite family guy quote

Yeah….that's a simpson's quote...

Nobodyman

@saringe015:

Yeah….that's a simpson's quote...

He was joking.

Didn't you see the spoilered ninja sign?

saringe015

I did, but I can't stand not to give credit where credit is due…a lot like how you guys give Kishi and Kubo credit for their mangum opus' to the meduim that is parody manga

square

The ninja, it does nothing.

shashank41

Bleach in a nutshell

Darth

Hmm… Now that I think about it, did Kishi just killed B of panel? Cause if he did, then I'm going to be really pissed. I liked the guy.

Sander

Is there another manga battle in existence as drawn out as this final batte of Nardo?

And to think that quite a few Nardo fans used to mock DB for that. They probably still do.

Darth

@Sander:

Is there another manga battle in existence as drawn out as this final batte of Nardo?

And to think that quite a few Nardo fans used to mock DB for that. They probably still do.

You mean by the number of chapters, or time it took to accomplish anything IRL?

Cause if it's the latter, then I believe that Ant's arc from HxH still dwarfs it, by a large margin of years.

kouch_lee

@Darth:

You mean by the number of chapters, or time it took to accomplish anything IRL?

Cause if it's the latter, then I believe that Ant's arc from HxH still dwarfs it, by a large margin of years.

I think he refers to the fact that they battled Obito for like an entire year, Sage of the Six Paths transformation inclusive, and this same chapter fucking Madara turned into the Sage of the Six Path too, thus making the whole situation re-start, just like that.

This fight is basically an eternal stalemate of epic proportions with no sense of progression whatsoever.

Nidhoeggr

@Sander:

Is there another manga battle in existence as drawn out as this final batte of Nardo?

And to think that quite a few Nardo fans used to mock DB for that. They probably still do.

Inuyasha's final fight was pretty lengthy.

Roland_Deschain

@saringe015:

Yeah….that's a simpson's quote...

just couldn´t resist

y2kyle89

@kouch_lee:

I think he refers to the fact that they battled Obito for like an entire year, Sage of the Six Paths transformation inclusive, and this same chapter fucking Madara turned into the Sage of the Six Path too, thus making the whole situation re-start, just like that.

This fight is basically an eternal stalemate of epic proportions with no sense of progression whatsoever.

In the grim dark present of Nardo, there is only grim darkness, dark grimness and STALEMATE

Cyclone_Baroness

@Sander:

Is there another manga battle in existence as drawn out as this final batte of Nardo?

And to think that quite a few Nardo fans used to mock DB for that. They probably still do.

I feel like Air Gear dragged longer than necessary at the end.

Cruithne

So if Karin's got those chain powers (which were actually pretty cool; too bad she's thinking of nothing but SAAAAASUKEEEEEE), izzat something we're gonna see Naruto spewing soon?

Also lol @ Sakura cutting into Naruto, grabbing his heart, and THEN giving him CPR.

@square:

BUT RUKIA YOU'RE ALREADY A GHOST, REMEMBER?

saringe015

First you're dead, then you're shinigami dead, then you're bankai-shinigami dead, then you're hollowfication-bankai-shinigami dead, and finally you're saved by zero-hollowfication-bankai-shinigami dead.

In other words first you have to learn the lyrics to an obscure 80's single before you can acomplish a level of dead that allows you to become powerful enough to fully realize that you are so dead that if you were any deader you would have to technically be Momo's character development

NER

@Bigivel:

Basically what I'm saying is that bringing something from real life laws and exaggerate/make a little(or a lot :P) different it in your work of fiction is OK(of course it depends how is showed.), but having things in your fiction that contradict others things in your fiction is a NO NO.

Thats exactly what I believe in.

Needless to say I enjoy reading this thread more than anything on the forum but I think its unfair to judge the poor sense of science of theauthors.

I mean, sometimes its just bad writing and in other times its used to recton stuff but most of the times I think this is the one thing we should ignore the most when we bash these serieses or any other for that matter.

KzTxL7

@Cyclone_Baroness:

I feel like Air Gear dragged longer than necessary at the end.

I was able to follow Air Gear choreography easier than this nonsense and it was dragging less than this.

God of Skypeia

@saringe015:

First you're dead, then you're shinigami dead, then you're bankai-shinigami dead, then you're hollowfication-bankai-shinigami dead, and finally you're saved by zero-hollowfication-bankai-shinigami dead.

In other words first you have to learn the lyrics to an obscure 80's single before you can acomplish a level of dead that allows you to become powerful enough to fully realize that you are so dead that if you were any deader you would have to technically be Momo's character development

You forgot Aizen-Hogyoku-zero-hollowfication-bankai-shinigami dead.