The episode was pretty decent to me but hell's memory was so badly done but everything else was ok. I think it's the soundtrack that made it feel meh. As much as I think this episode made the scenes less epic than in the manga, I thought to myself. Hey, it could be worse
566: ''At Last the Finish! Hody's Final Battle''
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Yeah, if the next arc eps are as bad as these one's I think I'll simply stop watching the anime as well..
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"Its fucking make sense luffy weaker in the water X2 because that hordy doge his attacks and kicked his ass in air? am I right?"
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This >
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Just dont you dare ruin whats comming up next Toei.
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I'll just imagine in my head how the episode should have gone.
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am i the only one who's missing the whitebeard flashback here?
could someone explain to me why toei dumps cool canon stuff just to fill the resulting void with their absurd fillers? they're doing that for some time now.
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Ok, here are my opinions about the finishers of the SH crew:
Brook's Blizzard cut: It was actually pretty nice, though i think it lacked "impact", or "power" just a bit.
Chopper's Carving hoof: It seemed a bit slow, but otherwise i can't complain.
Usopp's Impact wolf: I really didn't like this one. It was slow and moved awkvardly, and Daruma just collided with it and fell. It didn't live up to it's name.
Franky's Radical beam: I actually think that they handeled this quite well. I got no complaints about this one.
Jinbei's Vagabond drill: Eh, i'm pretty neutral about this one. There wasn't anything bad about it, but i didn't get that "strongest attack" feeling about it. otherwise it was pretty good.
Sanji's hell memories: Oh god, what are you doing Toei!? Sanji combusted nicely, but after that everything just went wrong. Instead of Wadatsumi also combusting and burning and everything, some small and awkvard flames just appeared. Since Sanji is my favourite character in all of One Piece, that really grinded my gears.
Zoro's Rengoku onigiri: A still frame?! Man, he got screwed over even worse than Sanji. But one thing that bothered me, even in the manga: He didn't even turn around when he attacked, so how the could Hyozou even get hurt?
Luffy's Elephant gun and Elephant gattling: WOW, just WOW. Those attacks made my day. Nice animation. 10/10.
Aaaand thats the end of my rant. I do actually really look forward to the PH arc.
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lol the filler was stupid and didnt make any sense, a Red Hawk in the water and Hordy was almost dead, then a Red Hawk in the air that did nothing?? WTF was that?? Fishman are supposed to be a lot stronger in the water (especially vs a devil fruit user) but here it looks like the battle was closer in the air.
They missed the whole point of the battle, Hordy was only a fly for Luffy, nothing else. Those stupid fillers hurt the anime so much… otherwise its ok. -
I did not know that Hody learned Soru^^
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Toei is the new Capcom apparently.
Fuck you producers.
Should I quit the Anime?
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Should I quit the Anime?
i'm giving them til teh first episode of PH (ch. 655)
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Watched the episode.
No wonder OP has such small fanbase in my country. The manga is awesome, but Poland is all about watching anime. So with animation like this in a episode that ends an arc (don't lie to yourselves, we all know that the finishing attacks are every arcs eye-candy) it's REALLY weak.So TL;DR the episode wasn't even close to what I was expecting.
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Rewatched it. Still bothered by the fact that Luffy called Shirahoshi by her name in the filler. I also re-read the manga parts of that and Luffy indeed keeps calling her weakhoshi. For some reason I feel like this little tidbit might be part of foreshadowing for future events and Shirahoshi's character development. She's a pretty important character as we learn later this arc. The finishers in general really were lackluster. They had a lot more weight in the manga. Especially Impact Wolf. What the hell was that? Geez. On the flipside everything with Luffy was really well animated. Still a good episode, I think.
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I wanted to yell OVERKILL when i saw elephant gatling on hody.
Does anyone else thing that was the most overkill attack in the series?
I also loved Chopper bitch slapping as a finisher.No one else sees that?He just slapped the guy across his entire body :)
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so i really am the only one who's annoyed by toei not giving a single fuck about whitebeard this episode.
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No, but not even Whitebeard could have saved this piece of shit. Awful. Just awful.
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was the episode so bad?
! I think Oda will say a word or two if they scrued with the narrator part when jinbei is giviving blood to luffy
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am i the only one who's missing the whitebeard flashback here?
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could someone explain to me why toei dumps cool canon stuff just to fill the resulting void with their absurd fillers? they're doing that for some time now.
I've always wanted to see that animated I dont understand why they skipped that…....
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http://i50.tinypic.com/2e6e9p5.jpgFantastic compilation. Can I hang it on my wall?
But yeah, that says everything that needs to be said.
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Fantastic compilation. Can I hang it on my wall?
But yeah, that says everything that needs to be said.
…disgusting...
Anime can look so very (ironically) paper-thin compared to manga at times.Of course you can.
The manga looks more dynamic, true.
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http://i50.tinypic.com/2e6e9p5.jpgpity only franky and brook look good everyone else is trash, ffs how do you shit on impact wolf like that
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….....completely underwhelmed, i was thinking that they couldn't screw up the SH's new finishers and i was completely wrong, I've been hearing allot of people saying that their disappointed with OP lately for various reasons but i kept my comments to myself, i stayed faithful thinking that it will get better but im just not seeing any improvement what so ever. (the fact they didn't even bother showing Whitebeards flashback angers me greatly)
I hate this, i miss thriller bark and CP9, im thinking of droping OP for a while maybe rewatch some sagas again and come up to date with a marathon.
EDIT: also W.T.F is up with luffys fight with Hordy...its just wrong they completely ignored the whole point of this arc (which was to show how powerful everyone has become and how none of them needed to brake a sweat over their enemys in a fight)
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….....completely underwhelmed, i was thinking that they couldn't screw up the SH's new finishers and i was completely wrong, I've been hearing allot of people saying that their disappointed with OP lately for various reasons but i kept my comments to myself, i stayed faithful thinking that it will get better but im just not seeing any improvement what so ever. (the fact they didn't even bother showing Whitebeards flashback angers me greatly)
I hate this, i miss thriller bark and CP9, im thinking of droping OP for a while maybe rewatch some sagas again and come up to date with a marathon.
EDIT: also W.T.F is up with luffys fight with Hordy...its just wrong they completely ignored the whole point of this arc (which was to show how powerful everyone has become and how none of them needed to brake a sweat over their enemys in a fight)
agreed it's only worse when fans defend it to the death lol like every time there's a couple bad episodes all you'll hear is " the good animators are working on a movie" or " it'll be better in the next arc" when it never is
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yea it just dosnt make sense the story lines getting better but the animations and the fact that they randomly change scenes is just killing it, they must see what there doing wrong so why not fix it? :/
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yea it just dosnt make sense the story lines getting better but the animations and the fact that they randomly change scenes is just killing it, they must see what there doing wrong so why not fix it? :/
It's been said many times, but they just do not care at all. They don't care that they're turning this fucking fable into some B-movie (well it's still better than that even when it's crappy in the anime). They know outright that they can animate this however they want and the kiddies will still watch.
If I was a Japanese citizen I would be furious, I'm actually surprised that there's not petitions against this (only people like Aohige would know about that).
But on the bright side… Fishman Island is almost done!
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how to prove your superiority over a main character, do a handstand on his arms
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Honestly, I really don't think the average elementary-schooler or preteen watching One Piece in Japan really cares much about the animation quality. You didn't dissect or carry out post-mortems on _your_​ Saturday morning cartoons back in the day, did you?
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Honestly, I really don't think the average elementary-schooler or preteen watching One Piece in Japan really cares much about the animation quality. You didn't dissect or carry out post-mortems on _your_​ Saturday morning cartoons back in the day, did you?
am i the only one who's missing the whitebeard flashback here?
http://i34.mangareader.net/one-piece/645/one-piece-2774571.jpg
could someone explain to me why toei dumps cool canon stuff just to fill the resulting void with their absurd fillers? they're doing that for some time now.
it's just getting really annoying.
i think it's time to not give a fuck anymore while hoping for a miracle… or for a one piece kai in distant future.
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Honestly, I really don't think the average elementary-schooler or preteen watching One Piece in Japan really cares much about the animation quality. You didn't dissect or carry out post-mortems on _your_​ Saturday morning cartoons back in the day, did you?
I was mainly talking about the adults (although I certainly didn't specify, so my bad).
Though, I have to wonder, is it generally considered "otaku" behavior in Japan to watch cartoons/anime?
I know reading manga there is much more acceptable, and it's frequently the heavy anime consumers that I see being portrayed as sedentary in Japanese media.
If it IS otaku behavior, then I can see why the adults may not watch the cartoon nearly as much as they read the manga (which had mainly adults reading it as opposed to kids and teenagers, surprisingly enough, and satisfyingly enough!)I also didn't read the source material on my Saturday cartoons; didn't even know of its existence.
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I'm not an expert on what is considered to be ''otaku'' anime in Japan, but I think that's a label usually reserved for certain late night anime. The label is a bit of a pejorative over there, though. Claiming to be an otaku in public isn't something one would do.
I do know for sure, though, that the average audiences for adaptations like One Piece and other shonen anime that air during prime time and in the morning tend to skew younger than the manga readership, though I'm sure since One Piece airs on a Sunday there are plenty of parents watching it with their kids. Whether they're actually invested in it, I can't say.
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The label is a bit of a pejorative over there, though. Claiming to be an otaku in public isn't something one would do.
lol what nerds, I bet they don't even wear cat ears like I do. Neko neko =^_^=m
On a serious note, it's to the point that they have certain anime and manga that "cure" them of their otaku-ness like it's some accursed thing.
It's definitely a label a lot of people there don't want to be caught dead with.I do know for sure, though, that the average audiences for adaptations like One Piece and other shonen anime that air during prime time and in the morning tend to skew younger than the manga readership, though I'm sure since One Piece airs on a Sunday there are plenty of parents watching it with their kids. Whether they're actually invested in it, I can't say.
That makes sense. It's interesting that even during prime time the viewership is still mainly younger. And yeah, 'course there're parents watching. Still… picturing me watching this show with my 8 year old little kid, or maybe even 13... I just can't do it, haha. I know they surely do, but it's just so weird for me to picture a parent, sitting their child down on their cozy couch, handing their kid some wholesome breakfast and then tuning into their cartoon about racism and steroids, touching the milk to their young'in's lips as blood spews out of Hody. I imagine looking at Hody's bloody face would make my milk taste sour.
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Hody's small time. Even though I'd probably be a lenient parent concerning what cartoons by children watch, I wouldn't want my 10 year old seeing something like the giant gaping bloody hole in Ace.
Otaku has been a bit of a social stigma (think how we use ''basement dweller'') ever since some guy in I think the late 80s stabbed several people to death.
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Is it just me, or does Hody seem alot stronger than he was in the manga?
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Hody's small time. Even though I'd probably be a lenient parent concerning what cartoons by children watch, I wouldn't want my 10 year old seeing something like the giant gaping bloody hole in Ace.
I'd probably be OK with that (anime version, I would not be OK with showing them the manga version as it is much more gruesome, in my opinion) as long as they understood the moral: sometimes things just don't work out the way you planned them to, no matter how hard you try. Certainly do try, but don't expect rosy results every single time.
I don't think I've said my full thoughts on the episode, but that's mainly because they were covered so beautifully by Thousand Lion-Chan. So… I suppose I'll just say what I DID like. I liked Radical Beam, thought they matched the manga pretty well with Franky's semi-hyper-detailed face, and then the beam shooting off. I thought Sanji's Hell Memories was pretty good, too. Chopper's was just mangled beyond all recognition, unlike his enemy.
This is a complaint with the source material, but personally I'd have liked Luffy to save Red Hawk for later on (we wouldn't have had the fire in water problem--only Sanji would remain in that department) to completely obliterate an enemy, and for Elephant Gatling Gun to be all he needed. I felt that, even though he was gorging on steroids like hotcakes, Hody still got up too much from time-skip Luffy, almost frustratingly so.
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Why couldn't they just have Daruma look like he got hit by an impact dial?
why couldn't the rings of impact resemble the rokuogan impact rings more?
I was looking at the wolf and thought it looks like a fricking christmas tree.
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Why couldn't they just have Daruma look like he got hit by an impact dial?
why couldn't the rings of impact resemble the rokuogan impact rings more?
I was looking at the wolf and thought it looks like a fricking christmas tree.
Oh, and lets not forget the tree wolf hopping in mid air. That really didn't help the scene. Did Usopp teach his plants rokushiki or something?
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As far as I'm concerned, the less said about Impact Wolf (in general, not just how it appeared here), the better.
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Thought was good ep lol. Loved brook/ frankys parts
People get to serious anime never going to live up to manga.
On other note film z better be amazing
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I just wished they used more dynamic angles for the super attacks like in the manga.
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They killed the episode/10
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Episode was all right. I'm not expecting much from it and parts of it were good enough to somewhat make up for the bad. We need One Piece Kai badly.
Just dont you dare ruin whats comming up next Toei.
This forever.
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Blah. Only some parts seemed to be animated well. It's kinda weird but I like this arc much less after watching the anime. I didn't hate FI arc, but now I find it terribly boring.
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I actually enjoyed the filler fight as I thought something was missing in the manga. Without it, in my opinion Luffy would have had no opponent. In the manga Hordy did jack squat against him and I was really disappointed. I know Hordy was suppose to be more of a nuisance than an actual opponent for Luffy, and that's what dragged down the arc for me. There were definite problems with it though such as Hordy being faster than Luffy on land. As for the reason why the Red Hawk was weaker, Hordy took a nice bite on his left shoulder. Other than that, I liked it.
Brooke's finisher was well done, as was Franky's and Zoro's. Chopper, Usopp, and Sanji's definitely needed more kick. Choppers seemed like he just brushed aside him, Usopp's attack didn't look strong at all, and Sanji's was too abrupt.
Not sure about this one, but was Luffy's Gear Third arms smaller than usual? I keep coming back to the impression of when he first used it against Rob Lucci, and his arm was massive. In this episode they seemed a lot smaller as they were only a bit larger than Hordy.
Favorite part was definitely elated monster Chopper. That voice .
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Is there any way to Boycott or petition Toei to stop writting shitty episodes, stop producing movies so often that have nothing to do with canon, and have Oda keep a better eye on them? I'm enraged at these Gainax-tier imbeciles!!
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So toei loves these scenes so much they show them twice? Thats awesome!
Red hawk? Show it twice! Snake shot? Show it twice! "hody was defeated!"? Show it twice! "ill protect everything" yes!!!
Hats off to you toei.