Which is why I also said that the only other possible for a final villain is someone controlled by the Five Elder Stars.
The Final Villain
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Indeed. Also edited my post. I think it's quite possible we haven't seen Luffy's final opponent yet, or it's the Gorousei. I'm just not sure. I have theories, but they're really nothing more than speculation at this point.
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Fair enough. I agree with what you're saying.
But in that case, I don't believe we've seen anyone we can definitively label as the final villain yet. But I do still think that Akainu will come after Blackbeard. So in that regard, he's more "final" than Blackbeard. >_>
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It's Sabo.
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It sure as hell ain't gonna be Blackbeard, that much is a given. The story will not end will Luffy finding One Piece and becoming the king. There will be a whole lot more after that - like the huge war that Whitebeard spoke of that will change everything…
My money will be on Akainu.
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World Government for sure and there'll be a huge revolutionary war led by the SH alliance and Dragon's Revolutionary Army
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Nah the last battle will be Gol D Roger vs Luffy, because they will find a time travel machine!
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Final villain or final crew? Because if it will be an all out crew vs crew, it'll be obiously Blackbeard, in the other hand, individual enemies are kinda rare in One Piece, so I'm curious what'll happen to Doflamingo and Akainu. Also don't forget about Kaidou either.
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Final villain, the memory of Sabo.
Literally. Luffy has to fight a manifestation of Sabo's memory (or a very strong cyborg Sabo).
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@Vongola_Boss_XI:
There's more to this whole thing. "Shouldering centuries of history"
Honestly I don't think Akainu's motives go beyond killing piracy at all costs. Yes, he's brutal and totalitarian, representing the dark side of the marines through absolute justice.
But Absolute Justice within the marines is a symptom of what's wrong with the WG in general, not the cause. It's like the pain caused by an infection. Akainu is a product of the environment (not giving him a pass, just saying that the environment created by the WG allows him to thrive). The final villain must cut to the core of the issue here and that is, there is something very sinister and wrong about the way the World Government operates. Akainu is the head of the Marines….but he's already got at least 6 people above him in rank that we're aware of (Kong and the Gorousei).
Personally I think there's more to the true history than we can really understand at this point. I think there's more to One Piece itself than just the True History....there's something big coming, I just don't think we can begin to predict what exactly that is yet.
Yes, this is exactly what I was trying to say. Thank you.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
Indeed. Also edited my post. I think it's quite possible we haven't seen Luffy's final opponent yet, or it's the Gorousei. I'm just not sure. I have theories, but they're really nothing more than speculation at this point.
Maybe not, but remember that Oda loves continuity.
@The:
Final villain, the memory of Sabo.
Literally. Luffy has to fight a manifestation of Sabo's memory (or a very strong cyborg Sabo).
Wow, now that I think about it, this reminds me a lot of:
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It's me.
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Yes, this is exactly what I was trying to say. Thank you.
Maybe not, but remember that Oda loves continuity.
Wow, now that I think about it, this reminds me a lot of:
! http://blog.ocad.ca/wordpress/visc3b92-fw2009-01/files/2010/02/Picture-5.png
Exactly. A game, that, made me teary-eyed when I played it.
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Blackbeard, this has been obvious since he captured Ace.
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@The:
Exactly. A game, that, made me teary-eyed when I played it.
Not to mention, the similarities between their "deaths", and the presence of Pacifistas modeled after a Revolutionary…
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Sabo the Pirate-Killer.
A top secret human weapon created by the World Government to destroy every pirate in the world, and any who sympathize with them: be it a man, woman or child (or animal)
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@Cyan:
Blackbeard, this has been obvious since he captured Ace.
And Akainu fisting Ace to death means nothing?
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eh, what vongola said.
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I went with akainu mostly because I think after beating blackbeard for one piece it will turn to a government vs luffy plus allies over the secrets revealed with one piece
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No, me.
We all know it's me.
I mean.
It's easy.
The only way to defeat me is to 404 me.
Like with that Wapol picture.
my ex-ultimate weapon…
but I have new weapons now...
Ahurr-hurr-huuuurrrrrrrr~--- Update From New Post Merge ---
And Akainu fisting Ace to death means nothing?
Idon'tevenIcan'tevenwhateven
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Coby will surely be head of the marines by then. I think Luffy and Coby/Smoker will have the same relationship with Luffy just like Garp and Roger.
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Will Luffy kill BlackBeard or Akainu? :ninja:
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Intentionally? I doubt it. If the two end up dying for whatever reason once beaten, I'd imagine Akainu would off himself and Blackbeard would get knocked into the sea and drown.
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@Uncle:
I'm completely with King Cannon here.
That Blackbeard is harvesting devil fruits makes him, power-wise, worthy of the final battle aside, it doesn't make sense from a story perspective at all. Blackbeard's goal has always been One Piece, it has always been the pursuit of dreams and his plan has always been to begin his era through its acquisition. If he fights Luffy after Luffy has already acquired One Piece and become the Pirate King, it will severely cheapen and undermine his competency as a villain. The absolute best time for them to fight should be before Raftel or during it.
That's the optimal time to capture the height of all the emotions and have their two ideals clash. Plus, Raftel needs an arc boss anyway and who better? I mean, who else would even be on Raftel? And let's not, for a second, assume that Raftel is the final end all. This story will not end with the acquisition of One Piece. There's too much exposition and information at this point for us to assume it'll just end there. One Piece is obviously the key to the final war that will make Marineford look like nothing.
As King Cannon said, Akainu is the personification of Absolute Justice and symbolically represents all the wrongs of the World Government which is the consistent and defining force that governs all the evil in the One Piece world today. Even on a personal level, Blackbeard captured Ace, but Akainu killed him. And not only killed him but left a permanent scar on Luffy, both physically and emotionally. Theoretically, everything points to a confrontation with the World Government being the end all to One Piece.
And defeating Akainu at any other time other than at this all-encompassing war wouldn't make sense. He's the Fleet Admiral, the leader of the marines. The only other possible for a final villain would be something spawned off from the Five Elder Stars. Otherwise, Akainu is it.
Great post, Kenny. Said everything I wanted to say. Can't believe y'all are voting for Blackbeard. Final opponent for the One Piece sure. But this series ain't gonna end with One Piece. Akainu all the way. Or maybe an unknown Marine/World Government character but definitely a figure that represents the oppression of freedom.
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See? This is why that Wapol pic is bad for you. Now you can't get yout mind out of the gutter anymore.
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The final battle is meant to make the marineford arc look like a scuffle - so I think the end boss will be the Gorosai - against the original 5 members of the SH team. Something that will happen right after the supposed end battle.
Like they are in the room where One Piece is or just before it and they have to finish them to gain access. All the while outside Luffy's allies fight against the Blackbeard pirates and Marines with each of the other members all liaising with the allies to help them in their battles.
Only issue with that is Robin getting into the One Piece room - but meh that's probably enough speculation on my part. -
Pandaman.
It was hinted since the beginning of the series.
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And Akainu fisting Ace to death means nothing?
I Think you´ve been watching a different version of One piece :ninja:
The final "boss" is gonna be the undergound secret society that´s been hiding the blank century possibly one that has the Gorousei as a front. Blackbeard would be like their designated fighter o top muscle or they´re going to off him (after he´s beaten by luffy). Heck, maybe Blackbeard plan is bringing them to light after all and will be killed by them in an unexpected turn.
Nah, it´s gonna be Gaimon. Oda has already hinted it.
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I think Akainu will be the main villain in Void History arc/story, not the final villain. After all he was introduced in Robin's flashback. Absolute justice along with the World Government should fall in Void History arc. Akainu wants to kill Luffy because he is Dragon's son. Dragon want World Government to collapse. Hence, Akainu might not be our final villain.
Whereas Blackbeard, even if a villain, has a huge ambition to become the next Pirate King. He has many traits Luffy has. Thats why i think Blackbeard is going to be the final villain.
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I think Akainu will be the main villain in Void History arc/story, not the final villain. After all he was introduced in Robin's flashback. Absolute justice along with the World Government should fall in Void History arc. Akainu wants to kill Luffy because he is Dragon's son. Dragon want World Government to collapse. Hence, Akainu might not be our final villain.
Whereas Blackbeard, even if a villain, has a huge ambition to become the next Pirate King. He has many traits Luffy has. Thats why i think Blackbeard is going to be the final villain.
But the final Poneglyph, the one that has the most info about the Void Century, is located in Raftel, where the battle between Luffy and Blackbeard will happen. A Void History arc can only happen after Raftel.
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I can imagine Akainu getting killed by Blackbeard.
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Pleeeeease, all of you guys are way off.
It's pretty obvious that BB, Akainu and Gorousei will merge to form a super-deformed, devastating entity of pure evil and utter corruption.
How can you not realize this?
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But the final Poneglyph, the one that has the most info about the Void Century, is located in Raftel, where the battle between Luffy and Blackbeard will happen. A Void History arc can only happen after Raftel.
I think Oda will concentrate on Luffy's dream in the end.
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One Piece is the key to the world engulfing war though. So finding One Piece can't possibly be the final event of the story.
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I think his last enemy will be Coby, but it's kind of hard to call him a villain.
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Pleeeeease, all of you guys are way off.
It's pretty obvious that BB, Akainu and Gorousei will merge to form a super-deformed, devastating entity of pure evil and utter corruption.
How can you not realize this?
Gah. You're forgetting the part where Garp, Aokiji, Smoker and Sengoku gattai with each other, and become a being of utter JUSTICE.
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@Lazy:
I can imagine Akainu getting killed by Blackbeard.
Actually… Let's think about this.
Akainu has constantly referred to Luffy as "Dragon's son". When the curtain on the Void Century is lifted, the ones who will use that information against the WG are the Revolutionaries. The only Straw Hat who is really interested in that information is Robin, and she is already a Revolutionary herself, or at the very least, an ally. So, the Void Century arc will likely pit the Revolutionaries directly against the WG, and we know that Akainu already has it out for Dragon. I could easily imagine a fight between them.
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I think Oda will concentrate on Luffy's dream in the end.
Finding the treasure won't grant Luffy ultimate freedom (which is what he truly desires). He'll have to defeat those that follow Absolute Justice for that to happen.
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It's seem to me the final villian is within the government, so possibly Akainu. Just seems more likely that Blackbeard will be defeated before things are settled with the government.
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You guys just made me super excited, too bad its gonna be like 10 years until we see this stuff happen.
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Blackbeard isn't the final villian. Yeah, he is the opposite of Luffy and yes his crew has the same sort of members like Luffy's. But no, he will not be the last villian. I am thinking something WG like. After Luffy defeats Blackbeard he will be Pirate King. He will have the freedom on the sea he wants… well he thinks! Cause like he stated, the one with the most freedom on the ocean is the Pirate King. But what if One Pieces showes that the WG holds something that doesnt make him free, something even Luffy wants to fight for. Well, the last villian will be the World Government. And maybe the 5 Eldery Stars? We have no idea what kind of power they have, are they just political or are they... more. Then we have Aikainu and Kong for example.
tl;dr
No Blackbeard isnt it, who is it? No idea. Only someone from the WG in my feeling.
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I agree that Blackbeard will be the final villain like many of us here. As the main antagonist, he's bound to add at least one other extremely noteworthy member to his crew(like shiliew/shiryu) just as luffy is not done with his crew.
I have a conspiracy theory that the Blackbeard Pirates will grow powerful enough to be too much for the Marines to handle. Eventually Akainu has to do Teach's bidding(due to blackmail).
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Tough to say, I like the idea that there will be a huge war between all the various factions. I think the Elder Stars will step into the fight at some point, probably against the revolutionaries.
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Blackbeard will clearly be Luffys untimate challenger for the One Piece but that wont make him the final villain. So who will be? Why, the Gorosei of course.
Just kidding, it will clearly be Moria…with a zombie army that includes Dr Hiriluk, Bellemiere, Ace, Tom, Whitebeard and Roger.
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See? This is why that Wapol pic is bad for you. Now you can't get yout mind out of the gutter anymore.
I've seen worse.
Similar.
Worse.
I don't even know to be honest.
But the stuff I've seen.
Is on the same scale.
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Why isn't the Gorosei one of the options?
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I guess the gorosei would fit in "other". That's why I voted for that
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Luffy vs Blackbeard(Battle of the Pirate Kings)
Luffy vs Akainu(Revege)
Pirates vs the GoroseiI also hopefully predict
Dragon vs Akainu(Freedom vs Absolute Justice)
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@Dahaka.:
Blackbeard obviously. He is the only big villian, that we see growing "from zero to hero". He grows just like Luffy, he's not an asspull overpowered character that comes from nowhere with his amazing power. We actually see how he gains it. That is what makes him greatest final villian of all time.
This is a good post.
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Oda is well known for his foreshadowing and his early introduction of important characters.
I dont even know how some could not see BB as the main villain (okay last battle might be for Coby, but seriously those two would never fight to the bitter end against each other) Beside all the good points brought up for BB, what the heck should he else be used for..teaser for an even stronger character out of nowhere..lol, then som of you don
t know shit about OP.
Only other possibility would be Akainu, but to be honest, we all want to see a real pirsate battle for the title..so only in a war against the WG Akainu might be the major final threat.