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Chapter 603: "Keep it in Your Heart" Discussion
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I think you have a huge misconception of what a plot device is.
I freely admit that initially, Jinbe seemed a bit bland. However, since his appearance in Impel Down, he has shown more of his character. Still, the penultimate decision will be made within Fishman Island.
Btw in case you haven't noticed Caribou is a fucking mass murderer. Great Strawhat material.
Zoro killed a bunch of Bounty Hunters.
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@Cyan:
What the fuck. "A manga whose storyline is based off one guy?"
And the logic behind coating makes a sense in a way (The boat is for all intents and purposes a lead weight being held up by an industrial-sized raft).
yeah, but shouldn't the air in the bubble keep the boat above water? tats how bubbles rise rite?
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Zoro killed a bunch of Bounty Hunters.
But they're portrayed entirely differently. We don't know the circumstances where the two brothers have gotten a reputation for killing marines, but we do know that they have been shown to be basically crazy, homicidal, maniacs.
Even without knowing their history we can make a judgement based on how Oda shows them, since he does know their past.
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yeah, but shouldn't the air in the bubble keep the boat above water? tats how bubbles rise rite?
I assume they calculate the size of the air bubble vs ship's weight and displacement so it can sail normally.
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I… I'm pretty sure that we aren't going to logically get this one explained, guys. Oda tried his best, but real-world physics don't work that way. Let's just assume that the outside of the bubble material specifically used for the top of coating reacts with water to become an ultra-heavy (but still elastic) substance, perfectly balanced with the ship such that the net density becomes equivalent to that of sea water, for ease of sailing both upwards and downwards, and then reacts with air again once the ship hits the surface to become as weightless as a bubble should be.
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Very nice… we are now discussing the science behind something in a comic book, in terms of real world science... not One Piece science.
Read it like a story, not as a revelation of scientific facts about the real world.
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You know how Oda tends to state in his interviews that he already has the last scene of One Piece thought out. This chapter really proves what it will be.
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Very nice… we are now discussing the science behind something in a comic book, in terms of real world science... not One Piece science.
Read it like a story, not as a revelation of scientific facts about the real world.
lol that was my point. i dont expect any science at all when it comes to a storybook~
edit: to contribute something relevant, fishman island. who thinks the non-devil fruit users will be a much larger part of this arc than the df users in SH? so… Usopp franky nami zoro and sanji playing a much larger part
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Yeah don't take it that seriously. The people in the coated ships should die of asphyxiation too, but I don't care that much.
BTW: Where are all the posts all of a sudden?
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Because talking about join dates is off topic.
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Yep, I read that. Didn't feel the need to respond to it, but if you insist - of course there is no proof to back it up, so there is also no need to get so worked up about it.
If you have admit that there is no evidence to back it up, then there is no point in making a theory.
No evidence=fanfiction
Zoro killed a bunch of Bounty Hunters.
Don't give me that crap. You know the circumstances were different. Zoro wasn't going out of his way to kill anyone, it was self-defense.
The brothers however are known mostly for their marine killing. They shot a marine who was completely defenseless. And the bros admitted that they wanted to join the Straw Hats to kill them all from the inside. They are frickin' mass murderers.
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Don't give me that crap. You know the circumstances were different. Zoro wasn't going out of his way to kill anyone, it was self-defense.
The brothers however are known mostly for their marine killing. They shot a marine who was completely defenseless. And the bros admitted that they wanted to join the Straw Hats to kill them all from the inside. They are frickin' mass murderers.
It was self defense in Coribou's case as well. He attacked because he was calling the cops, then later he pulled out his gun when Coribou's back was turned.
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But they're portrayed entirely differently. We don't know the circumstances where the two brothers have gotten a reputation for killing marines, but we do know that they have been shown to be basically crazy, homicidal, maniacs.
Even without knowing their history we can make a judgement based on how Oda shows them, since he does know their past.
Unless he never even bothered to flesh out their past. ;)
To be honest we have nothing to say one way or the other with regards to them actually "joining" in some fashion atm…although the one thing we have definitely found out is that the two brothers are freakin INSANE.
Personally I think the chances of them "joining" in some fashion are extremely low, but it's not impossible (even in the capacity that they WANT to join for...or at least try to join for, lol).
Anyway, I'd say of the characters we KNOW OF atm, I'd have to agree that Jinbei is probably the most likely candidate, but as someone else said...he doesn't exactly have a lot of character fleshed out. That doesn't mean he doesn't have it, though - we might only find out more about him come arrival at FI, or maybe even in the new world. After all, we didn't find out about Robin' until awhile after she joined the crew...and we didn't really find out more about Nami until after Usopp and Sanji joined.
That being said, I'd personally prefer to meet the NN as a NEW character, and not someone we've seen before. I'd also say that if we are going to get a NN soon, something akin to this has a higher probability of happening than Jinbei (or anyone else really, of the people we've known about for awhile) joining the crew, too…with them heading for FI and all.
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i'm just saying dont toss out the idea of them possibly making it into SH crew for a split second, because it can happen.
Nobody's talking about a split second join, but rather about if they are new nakamate material. Which obviously they are not. At all.
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It was self defense in Coribou's case as well. He attacked because he was calling the cops, then later he pulled out his gun when Coribou's back was turned.
I'm not referring to that incident, I'm talking about this bit:
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/56751021/5"Firing on defenseless people, disobeying orders of their captain, and being mass murders who want to murder their crew? Great SH material!"
I can't even believe I'm discussing this. Those two are so obviously villains. Don't be a moron.
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The brothers are nothing more than a means to showcase the strawhats new power.
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I'm not referring to that incident, I'm talking about this bit:
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/56751021/5"Firing on defenseless people, disobeying orders of their captain, and being mass murders who want to murder their crew? Great SH material!"
I can't even believe I'm discussing this. Those two are so obviously villains. Don't be a moron.
He was just following the pirate code of "snitches get stitches." You can't let a snitch an a liar go without something to remind them that their services are looked down upon.
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Nobody's talking about a split second join, but rather about if they are new nakamate material. Which obviously they are not. At all.
I guess this is what a lot of people seem to forget in the discussion. This is most likely where the differences arise, or so I hope.
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Hmm… On the first page Fake-sanji says that they were forced to do it (probably lying) by Black... Could that be Blackbeard or is it the fake-Luffys name?
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Hmm… On the first page Fake-sanji says that they were forced to do it (probably lying) by Black... Could that be Blackbeard or is it the fake-Luffys name?
Or has this already been discussed (If there is anything to discuss)? :-)Fluffy's real name.
It's like "Black Tounge" Dipshit or something like that.
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@Cyan:
Fluffy's real name.
It's like "Black Tounge" Dipshit or something like that.
I see… Sorry then. x) Thought I had made a revolutionary discovery for a sec...
Awesome chapter!
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@Cyan:
Fluffy's real name.
It's like "Black Tounge" Dipshit or something like that.
"Three-Tongued" Demalo Black
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Didn't Ussop say he'd never get scared of anything … why is he giving so many reactions on page 11....
Also; We can sit on top of the hill, if my ford doesn't stop workin or I lose my only 2 dollars.... so tell me good lookin' what cha got cookin' and can I have some ?
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Usopp before the time skip would probably have been screaming his head off and being annoying.
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I would like Usopp and Chopper to remain relatively cowards.
But Usopp's fear was justified. I mean seriously, Luffy and Zoro were going to destroy the bubble. Bubble being destroyed means, ship sinks, Chopper, Luffy, Brook, and Robin all drown. -
Didn't Ussop say he'd never get scared of anything … why is he giving so many reactions on page 11....
Usopp may be tough, but Oda isn't gonna mess with the center of the character.
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Usopp before the time skip would probably have been screaming his head off and being annoying.
Usopp may be tough, but Oda isn't gonna mess with the center of the character.
16 characters of "indeed". ;)
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Yeah guys, I can see it now. Caribou's face and tongue plastered all over the merchandise as a new nakama. What a heartthrob. I can't wait to buy Caribou's body pillow.
I come back after a few days and THIS is what the conversation has degenerated into?
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Yeah guys, I can see it now. Caribou's face and tongue plastered all over the merchandise as a new nakama. What a heartthrob. I can't wait to buy Caribou's body pillow.
Its part of a "scared straight" program. You get locked in a room with Coribou merchandise until you're so traumatized you'd never think of committing another crime.
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Guys.
You can only make Freddy disappear by forgetting about him.
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Caribou is really crazy looking. I don't want him to join.
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It seems to me you people hate pirates an awful lot for people who like one piece. The brothers are fucking awesome.
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It seems to me you people hate pirates an awful lot for people who like one piece. The brothers are fucking awesome.
i LOVE the brothers. psychopaths are always fun to watch and they ar ethe true meaning of pirates. who heard of pirates saving countries
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i LOVE the brothers. psychopaths are always fun to watch and they ar ethe true meaning of pirates. who heard of pirates saving countries
Pirate did all kinds of shit. Took over bases, freed slaves, had codes and looked out for each other (some of them) They're generally a good source for storytellers. Oda picked wisely. Though one thing they all had in common is they all did illegal things. Looking down on a pirate for doing bad things is like being disappointed in a government for being oppressive. WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOUR DEALING WITH!!?
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Pirate did all kinds of shit. Took over bases, freed slaves, had codes and looked out for each other (some of them) They're generally a good source for storytellers. Oda picked wisely. Though one thing they all had in common is they all did illegal things. Looking down on a pirate for doing bad things is like being disappointed in a government for being oppressive. WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOUR DEALING WITH!!?
oh i know all that. thought freeing slaves in their minds weren't an act of good, but rather to spit on the shoes of the upper class.