I wonder if the return chapter will just be a 19 page normal chapter or if we might get some extended pages as a treat because of the break.
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Just noticed this, not too bothered really. I guess I'll just read Fist of the North Star and then Halo Reach comes out so I'll have stuff to do.
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i think it's good after 13 years ya gotta take some time out and relax to keep it fresh or you'll just make the whole thing stiff, repetitive and boring. he will certainly have some sort of note book he will use where he writes down new ideas and stuff.
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Let's just hope Oda doesn't die one month before he finishes OP !
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i think it's good after 13 years ya gotta take some time out and relax to keep it fresh or you'll just make the whole thing stiff, repetitive and boring. he will certainly have some sort of note book he will use where he writes down new ideas and stuff.
Let's just hope no one steals it like what happened with Kazuki Takahashi… :ninja:
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If you're looking for good mangas to read during the month-long hiatus, I would recommend "Gamaran" and "The Breaker".
Although the latter being a Korean manhwa, it's still real good.
On topic: One Piece rocks !
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Now that the chapter is out and we have to wait until Sept 29 for the 598 chapters I have a question of an discussion that might keep the board busy for a while.
How do you guys feel the direction the story is going? Now that we have a timeskip.
About the timeskip, I do remember way back to December 2004/Janurary 2005, if you ask someone if you think there should be a timeskip in One Piece, everyone will say "NO!". Many people would say that timeskips don't fit One Piece, and that the story should take place in the same year. I do remember people claiming that if timeskips happens they will stop reading One Piece. Plus I do remember one guy saying that if there was any timeskips he'll go to Japan, knock on Oda's door and blow his head off. People believed that Oda should break all shonen cliches that they think Oda is unique enough not to follow any shonen cliches. Now I wonder wonder where are these people now?
People expected the story to take place in the same year. But we have been getting timeskips throughout the series. The first timeskip was in the first chapter. After that we've been getting a day or week timeskips. Many fans believe that timeskips means year-passing but it can also mean month or weeks or days.
Timeskip has been hinted way back to the end of Thriller Bark after Brook joined. He asked Laboon who is still at Reverse Mountain to wait for him for a few more years.
Also we get a training session. Like with Naruto where he left to train with someone and came back 2 years later. In One Piece we get Luffy going out with Reyleigh to train in an island that changes seasons every week and he was to reunite with his crew in 2 years. I wonder what you guys think about that? Naruto sucked because of that so what's the differant between the two? I know it's dumb question, I'm just starting a general discussion about the recent timeskip and training.
For me I still think 4 years is better for the Straw Hat.
Many people felt One Piece lost it's way since the Marineford war.
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Honestly, people need to learn that cliches in and of themselves aren't bad. They tend to be used so much because they work. The thing about using cliches is the execution, because ultimately nothing is really completely original
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Naruto sucked before the timeskip.
The giant horrible arc right before it sucked the life out of the series completely.And I say this as someone who followed Naruto weekly eight volumes before the timeskip.
The Naruto timeskip is an easy line to differentiate "good naruto" from "bad naruto" but it's largely arbitrary.
TRUE, everyone and their mother seemed far too strong after the skip.
But that was just one bottle of pee in the barrel of problems with Naruto's fall off.You could remove the timeskip and even the power boosts and Naruto would still suck tremendously.
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Many people felt One Piece lost it's way since the Marineford war.
Honestly, I think I'm one of them. Very few chapters after the war ended made me feel satisfied by them. But I'm not fully forming an opinion yet–once I see how things go I'll determine if One Piece really has lost its way; I still see plenty of potential in it.
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Things have gotten more serious lately obviously, what with the deaths of Ace and Whitebeard and the crew wide beat-down followed by separation, but at the core the story is still about adventure though its had no chance to really showcase it lately. It's a grand adventure, and no grand adventure is complete without some hardship and growth on the part of the adventurers.
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Why is Naruto being treated as the key example of timeskips.
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Right now it is different. We've been thrown into a state where we haven't seen the crew together for 80+ chapters? Then the war was almost a whole different story it seems. Heck, for most of it Luffy seemed like an after thought. When the focus is back on all the Strawhats, the story should go back to a similar feel, but I feel like there might be a few prevalent changes.
The fact that the last chapter had feature a similar happy Luffy, I know most everything should be alright. -
The direction is right there where I thought it would be, so I'm not complaining.
Why is Naruto being treated as the key example of timeskips.
Cause people inhere seem to only have read Naruto, besides One Piece.
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Why is Naruto being treated as the key example of timeskips.
The Naruto example is being used by posters who feel that the timeskip will be detrimental to One Piece, given the general consensus is that it was handled poorly in that scenario. You don't see many people using positive examples of timeskips since they don't feel the need to vindicate its use.
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The Naruto example is being used by posters who feel that the timeskip will be detrimental to One Piece, given the general consensus is that it was handled poorly in that scenario. You don't see many people using positive examples of timeskips since they don't feel the need to vindicate its use.
Do you even read Naruto?
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HAY GUYZ! NARUTO IS DA ONLY STORY EVAR MADE TO HAVE A TIME SKIP!
Good lord, you people need to watch movies. Terminator 2 was an 11 year time skip after the first movie. Sheesh.
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@JERK:
Do you even read Naruto?
I did. I stopped following it shortly after the timeskip because I thought it dragged the series down to a point where it wasn't worth reading anymore. Similar to you, I wasn't happy with the way the series was going before the timeskip, and the timeskip simply served as the "last straw" if you will.
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The timeskip ruined the Bible, Dragonball, and Akira.
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Meh… but see this, we never knew where any of those manga were headed after the timeskip, one piece going to basically be the same after. Dragon ball could have ended right there if it wanted, but the editors didnt, after freiza at least.
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Meh… but see this, we never knew where any of those manga were headed after the timeskip, one piece going to basically be the same after. Dragon ball could have ended right there if it wanted, but the editors didnt, after freiza at least.
Strange thing about Dragon Ball is that Toriyama had planned to end it at multiple spots.
Originally it was going to end after Emperor Pilaf (yeah it was going to be that short) but the series was doing well so he kept going.
Then he wanted to end it after Piccolo Jr and Goku declining Kami's offer to become "God". But he was forced to keep going.
THEN he was going to end it after Freeza with Goku as the most powerful being in the universe. But the series was still popular so he was forced to keep going.
THEEEEN he wanted to end it after Cell with Gohan carrying the torch. But… yeah.
So he finally ended it after Buu, not counting GT. -
Had a big long rant about the bullshit that is this 'One Piece lost its way since Marineford' bullshit. (Yay, redundancy!) When I posted it, the thread was moved so my hard-core rant was kept away from the masses. Perhaps it is for the best…
But yes. Brilliant argument, guys. next you're gonna tell me One Piece lost its way after Enies Lobby when you just finished reading the Bounty Increase chapter.
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The time skip = Naruto = bad concept needs to be dropped. Naruto was already headed south, with or without the skip, as Zephos explained. After nearly 600 chapters of enjoying Oda's writing, I really see no reason to not be optimistic. Those who doubt Oda, suck cock by choice.
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I'm actually rereading Naruto right now, just finished the Chunnin Exam, great great stuff.
It's amazing how even knowing how to shit and unfulfilling it all becomes…that I still get excited by the potential of the early arcs and characters to grow into future greatness.
It feels like a glorious kingdom frozen in time, like Hyrule Castle in Wind Waker.I'm now headed off to the hinterlands between the end of the Exam and the timeskip, it's been a long long long time since I've been here.
I will find exactly when and where the virus first struck.
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Sasuke-In-A-Box. Maybe even the Sand Nation Invasion at the end of the examination.
Still, that Gaara v. Rock Lee fight is incredibly good.
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No, as far as I'm concerned the whole Chunnin Exam is gold.
My memory is that it's decent until early into the Sasuke Chase arc, bled dry by it's middle, delivering us at the feet of the horrors that are the end.
And the timeskip arrives at our shivering nude forms, like Charon, waiting to row us across to Part 2.
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Okay so Naruto already sucked before the timeskip and would still stuck withoiut it. Oda on the other hand, knows what he's doing
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I would like to state that after this 4 week break, Ap Forums will most likely implode unto itself with such ferosity that a wormhole will tear through the fabric of time and space, which conveniently will lead us to 4 weeks prior, thus making an infinite loop of disapointment and whiney pre-teens.
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The last really fantastic part of Naruto was the previous failed vessel that Ooruchimaru had kept in the medical bay and fought Rock Lee/Gaara. He was fantastic.
(I also remember a pretty hefty backlash against Chouji living after he took the Red Pill, but that was a long time ago.)
Personally, I was disheartened by the Monster Battle between Naruto and Gaara at the end of the Chunnin Exam. It was a much weaker ending to that arc than I imagined.
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He who doubts Oda will regret it. Also, STFU about Naruto. It's stunk for hundreds of chapters now.
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The Rescue Sasuke Arc was the cut off point for Naruto.
From the Sand Trio running by, to Neji and Choji being fake killed, to the fight between Naruto and Sasuke.
Quite a trainwreck.
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I lived through every chapter of it..
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You know, I've seen people use Dragon Ball and Death Note in their examples as to why time-skips suck, as well…
And while there are some people who dislike the arc right before the Naruto time-skip, MOST PEOPLE agree that it's after the time-skip where Naruto starts getting bad.
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Yesterday checking the Forum I saw the news about the Break…
and today I have a fever (39.6 C)
And reading the translation just now...
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666Satan had the absolute worst time skip of all time. By far. The series died on its ass after that.
Anyway, timeskip will work wonders for One Piece. We'll get to remeet and relearn the capabilities of all the crew members again.
…and its already had a time skip in chapter 1. 10 years was a fair bit longer
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I would say that some of them do u guys are just biass because it's not from the manga. If the filler arc was in the manga then I bet u guys would love it.
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to my mind naruto lost its meaning after kishimoto stopped developing all the chars and just focused on naruto and sasuke
there were brilliantly developed chars like neji,lee and kakashi
and itachi's true past was just too lame
as far as one piece is concerned the time skip is on a right spot before the NW
there are many characters whose future we anticipate and how the SH will meetin naruto the only ones who had been trained were sasuke and naruto the only 2 characters of that manga
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I'm gonna sticky this temporarily, so that people who wander onto the forums looking for manga know about it.
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You know, I've seen people use Dragon Ball and Death Note in their examples as to why time-skips suck, as well…
And while there are some people who dislike the arc right before the Naruto time-skip, MOST PEOPLE agree that it's after the time-skip where Naruto starts getting bad.
Nobody cares about anything you have to say.
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Anyone else feel that Oda reached a personal milestone?
Like he's been waiting for this for more than a decade?
Cause if he was, he must've been itching to get to this part forever.
I say congrats.
P.S. I was so certain the whole 'Kuma attacking the Strawhat's ship' thing would've been resolved by now.
Now we have the see the aftermath of that event 2 years later.
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i want to know what happen at sa and with buggy , waiting atleast a month for it…
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You know I can get the people that dislike the time-skip, I know their personal opinions and blah blah.
But you got to be either real stupid or just really stubborn as hell to not see all the great fucking possibilities Oda has to play around with. You couldn't have forgotten the last couple of chapters with the post-time skip panels showing what the world was doing. This isn't going to be a half-ass time-skip like you guys keep picturing. Is it so hard to believe Oda will do a great one? After all these years of us enjoying One Piece for what it is, you really think Oda is just going fuck it up that easily. Common sense people!
Also even if you don't like a time-skip if there was EVER a time for Oda to do one this IS the time. Solves so many problems and it's a quick way to reunite them as well, instead of dragging out individual arcs of each traveling. Which in my opinion I don't give a shit about and I think it's waste of time. Leave that shit for Anime fillers.
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@JERK:
Nobody cares about anything you have to say.
Hey, hey! Shut the fuck up, Zephos.
Anyways, it's more than just Naruto's time-skip that made certain series go downwards in quality, so even if Oda is good… He's not God. And it could also happen to him.
Hence why people are worried. Yeah, maybe they're thinking too much, but it's to be expected...
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Dragon Ball's timeskip does not count and DN shouldn't have ever continued in the first place. The timeskip has nothing to do with it becoming crap.
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And why, pray tell, does their time-skips not count? I'm just reporting how I usually see things with anime fans around here…
"Dragonball was the shit! Dragonball Z is boring!" (and yes, I know it's all Dragonball, but that's the particular time-skip that shifted the series)
"Naruto was actually good! Part 2 is sucky!"
"Death Note with L was good! Afterwards with Near and Mello was meh."
And these are usually what anime/manga fans think from the different forums I go to. It's only here where I'm seeing some people say that the suckiness from those series started BEFORE their time-skips.
So, seeing how they general populace seems to dislike those series after a time-skip, I don't find it surprising how some people are worried about One Piece. Yes, Oda is good. But so were the other authors before they introduced their so-called time-skip.
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There seem to be a lot of people with the opinion that time-skip equals things turning to shit. Frankly going ahead two years seems a lot less drastic than splitting up the entire cast for two whole years and that turned out more than OK.
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I guess it's all really just a coincidence.
But, that won't stop people from worrying.
Hopefully Oda does it right, so that the "TIMESKIPS ARE BAD" belief dies.
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Dragon Ball had ten billion time skips and the one that incidentally had the anime breaking point wasn't anything special at all.
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Well, during the Greed Island arc in HxH, wasn't there a half year timeskip or something? Right before Killua left to do his hunter test?
Sure, it's not as long as 2 years, but it was done rather well, I thought. And I liked Death Note with Near and Mello. Not as much as with L, but it was still good, in my opinion.
Whatever, at least I still have Bleach and Naruto to make fun of. Not as fun as actually enjoying something, but it'll do.
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I'm looking forward to the older Luffy!
And I don't care that in other series time-skips generally degraded the show. This is Oda we are talking about.
I wonder though how the Marines will change in two years, and what the new world will be like.
