General Marines Thread

psolaras

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! coby's dream is to be an admiral so one spot must be opened,now whose place would that be??
! if someone of the three admirals would just leave his place cuz of his own reasons it would have already happened
! so what could cause that?
! as i say in my sig i think kizaru's contact with luffy will make him join the crew
! one of the other too seem impossible to leave the marines
! well it is a speculation so what do you think?? what will happen and a place will be offered for a new admiral?

You know them. The men and women in white who patrol the seas dispensing justice on the evil and protecting the weak.

From the Fleet Admiral Sengoku to the disgraced Captain Morgan, let's discuss the various things of relevance to these people.

First off, Sakazuki is a badass and the best Admiral clearly.

Solid

No I think you got it wrong, the admiral rank Coby wants is Sengokus rank.

psolaras

@Solid:

No I think you got it wrong, the admiral rank Coby wants is Sengokus rank.

well even if that is true,wouldn't he have to be an admiral to be promoted to a supreme admiral???

Cr4zy

I thought hejust wanted to be a commisions officer.

psolaras

i pasted the page where coby sais that

Admiral Wolfpox

So your question is: "What will happen to open up a slot for Coby to become admiral?"

Well, normally there's no chance in hell Coby will be allowed to replace an admiral or the sengoku, even if he is as strong as Garp, but here's how I think it's possible:

1. A really major disturbance in the world order occurs, either by Luffy, Dragon, or Blackbeard.
a. Another shichibukai is defeated
b. An admiral is defeated
c. Sengoku is defeated or blackmailed
d. One of the Four Emperors is defeated
2. Coby saves the day somehow and restores order
3. He is rewarded with the title for his efforts

psolaras

@Admiral:

So your question is: "What will happen to open up a slot for Coby to become admiral?"

Well, normally there's no chance in hell Coby will be allowed to replace an admiral or the sengoku, even if he is as strong as Garp, but here's how I think it's possible:

i think you pressed the enter button a little too quickly

GearSecond

I'd guess Aokiji might leave, realizing that even though the WGs veiw of Justice and his are totally different, they have crossed moral lines too much, and likely become a revolutionary.

kljs

Aokiji might not leave or he is trying to make changes from the inside…...

psolaras

if he has doubt about the marines,he would have already

@GearSecond:

I'd guess Aokiji might leave, realizing that even though the WGs veiw of Justice and his are totally different, they have crossed moral lines too much, and likely become a revolutionary.

Maybe he will leave the Marians, he likes to do things on his own, He didn’t arrest the straw hats and he spoke to Robin Couple of times without arresting her, I feel that he is not satisfied about the Marians .

FireFistAce 0

@psolaras:

if he has doubt about the marines,he would have already

I really think he has, he's just using his power as an Admiral to get whatever he needs to accomplished. Once that's complete, he'll definitely say sayanora to the Marines and become rogue.

The only thing that bothers me about the 3 admirals is that there's no Momotaro. Coby is a fairly common name when you think about it; is Coby our "Momotaro"?

Gizmo

@Fire Fist:

The only thing that bothers me about the 3 admirals is that there's no Momotaro. Coby is a fairly common name when you think about it; is Coby our "Momotaro"?

What you talkin bout, FFAce?

Personally i think the "Red Dog" will get his ass kicked even though he's so badass.

KuwabaraTheMan

I think most likely at least one Admiral will be defeated and lose their position.

Additionaly, Coby could become Admiral only after the current Government Regime is overthrown, and the Marine's will probably be shaken up quite a bit, opening up the opprotunity for Coby to become an Admiral.

FireFistAce 0

@ultimateclima:

What you talkin bout, FFAce?

Personally i think the "Red Dog" will get his ass kicked even though he's so badass.

Momotaro is an Old Japanese fairy tale.

Momotaro was a boy born from a peach. His parents found them while tending their Peach orchard and decided to adopt him.

One day, Momotaro decided he would be the one to slay the ogres that were plauging the land. His parents gave him four meat dumplings and he sat out on his journey.

Along the way, he met a Blue Pheasant, a Red Dog, and a Yellow Monkey. Each of these animals agreed to help him in exchange for a meat dumpling.

When they reached Ogre island, they found a giant locked gate. the Blue Pheasant flew up over the gate and unlocked it from the inside.

With the power of the meat dumplings, Momotaro and his friends beat the ogres. The Ogre King came, and Momotaro struck him down with his sword.

When Momotaro and the animals returned to their homeland, they were heroes.

Gizmo

@Fire Fist:

Momotaro is an Old Japanese fairy tale.

Momotaro was a boy born from a peach. His parents found them while tending their Peach orchard and decided to adopt him.

One day, Momotaro decided he would be the one to slay the ogres that were plauging the land. His parents gave him four meat dumplings and he sat out on his journey.

Along the way, he met a Blue Pheasant, a Red Dog, and a Yellow Monkey. Each of these animals agreed to help him in exchange for a meat dumpling.

When they reached Ogre island, they found a giant locked gate. the Blue Pheasant flew up over the gate and unlocked it from the inside.

With the power of the meat dumplings, Momotaro and his friends beat the ogres. The Ogre King came, and Momotaro struck him down with his sword.

When Momotaro and the animals returned to their homeland, they were heroes.

Wouldn't Fleet Admiral Sengoku be the Momotaro? He is after all the leader of the three.

kljs

problem is….. is Akainu a good marine like Aokiji?

Aldrich

@KuwabaraTheMan:

I think most likely at least one Admiral will be defeated and lose their position.

The problem with that is, even if an Admiral is defeated by Luffy, he shouldn't lose his position. Crocodile was stripped of his Shichibukai title and privileges not because of his defeat at the hands of Luffy but because he tried to become the ruler of the Alabasta Kingdom and was a threat to the WG. I can't see the same scenario happening with an Admiral.

As for Coby, I think he'll become Admiral maybe along with Smoker and Aokiji will take Sengoku's Fleet Admiral spot. That'd make the Marine more human I guess.

Sogeking_sama

Ummm… isn't Coby only fifteen right now won't he be in his late twentys before he's an admiral he might have to battle a current admiral for the job

psolaras

@Aldrich:

The problem with that is, even if an Admiral is defeated by Luffy, he shouldn't lose his position. Crocodile was stripped of his Shichibukai title and privileges not because of his defeat at the hands of Luffy but because he tried to become the ruler of the Alabasta Kingdom and was a threat to the WG. I can't see the same scenario happening with an Admiral.

As for Coby, I think he'll become Admiral maybe along with Smoker and Aokiji will take Sengoku's Fleet Admiral spot. That'd make the Marine more human I guess.

well i agree on the first part but sengoku is the most likely person to leave the marines,he is what the gorosei need,he was even mentioned by WB

i would like too Aokiji becoming the supreme admiral but he is too good character for it,the gorosei killed that old archeologist in ohara with no hesitation and Aokiji would never order anything like that

i think if aokiji is ordered to kill robin he would do it and if the supreme admiral position was emptied akainu would be more possibly promoted

of course if kizaru is a lunatic that laughs all the time and enjoy killing i will take my theory back and aokiji would be 100% the person that would leave

btw is aoikiji the strongest marine officer,can someone post a link to that manga page where it sais that

freedom

@psolaras:

well i agree on the first part but sengoku is the most likely person to leave the marines,he is what the gorosei need,he was even mentioned by WB

i would like too Aokiji becoming the supreme admiral but he is too good character for it,the gorosei killed that old archeologist in ohara with no hesitation and Aokiji would never order anything like that

i think if aokiji is ordered to kill robin he would do it and if the supreme admiral position was emptied akainu would be more possibly promoted

of course if kizaru is a lunatic that laughs all the time and enjoy killing i will take my theory back and aokiji would be 100% the person that would leave

btw is aoikiji the strongest marine officer,can someone post a link to that manga page where it sais that

here you go.

@stephen's:

Gorousei: …him again?
Well, it's probably only reconnaissance.
Honestly, what does he consider his own position to be...?
He can't just act on the spot like that.
The Marine Headquarters' Strongest,
"Admiral" Aokiji...

I've been told that the japanese could be interpreted as the Admirals are the strongest and this doesn't single out Aokiji as the strongest, but i think this is what you're asking about.

As for Coby being an admiral… why not have 4 admirals? is there a rule indicating there can only be 3 admirals at a given time???

psolaras

@freedom:

here you go.

I've been told that the japanese could be interpreted as the Admirals are the strongest and this doesn't single out Aokiji as the strongest, but i think this is what you're asking about.

As for Coby being an admiral… why not have 4 admirals? is there a rule indicating there can only be 3 admirals at a given time???

so aokiji isn't stated to be stronger than sengoku

and i haven't thought of the admiral's number exceding the 3

FireFistAce 0

@freedom:

here you go.

I've been told that the japanese could be interpreted as the Admirals are the strongest and this doesn't single out Aokiji as the strongest, but i think this is what you're asking about.

As for Coby being an admiral… why not have 4 admirals? is there a rule indicating there can only be 3 admirals at a given time???

No, but it would destroy the naming scheme, unless Coby is named Momotaro.

KuwabaraTheMan

@Aldrich:

The problem with that is, even if an Admiral is defeated by Luffy, he shouldn't lose his position. Crocodile was stripped of his Shichibukai title and privileges not because of his defeat at the hands of Luffy but because he tried to become the ruler of the Alabasta Kingdom and was a threat to the WG. I can't see the same scenario happening with an Admiral.

The Admirals exist in order to be a force to oppose the Pirates and other lawbreakers. If an Admiral has been defeated publically by a Pirate, than they aren't very much of a threat any more. It's not that they'd be any weaker, but Pirates would no longer fear them.

freedom

@KuwabaraTheMan:

The Admirals exist in order to be a force to oppose the Pirates and other lawbreakers. If an Admiral has been defeated publically by a Pirate, than they aren't very much of a threat any more. It's not that they'd be any weaker, but Pirates would no longer fear them.

Marines are defeated by pirates all the time, the SHs just defeated the almighty BC. I don't see why an admiral would lose his threat factor if this admiral was defeated by a pirate. What if WB or Shanks defeated an Admiral…

KuwabaraTheMan

@freedom:

Marines are defeated by pirates all the time, the SHs just defeated the almighty BC. I don't see why an admiral would lose his threat factor if this admiral was defeated by a pirate. What if WB or Shanks defeated an Admiral…

I immagine they'd feel disgraced.

I'm not saying its a cut and dry case, but say you have someone whose really close to the Admiral's level, and brought down a notorious pirate. And then one of the Admirals loses to a Pirate. I'd think in that case the other guy might wind up taking his place amongst the Admirals.

Md-Martin

Aokiji likes having lots of Seamen ride on his bicycle

I like the Marines. I wish we might've seen a bit more on the first half of the grandline because me, and some other people are assuming, is that they had more control over the first half, and little-to-no control in the New World and it being the true Pirate graveyard.

Retsudo

Now that Newgate's dead, the WG and it's forces should be more willing to make inroads into the New World.

And you know, Sakazuki.

They will certainly make a decent impact in the NW.

Superbear 22

Concerning Sengoku, what is he exactly? Could he be a member of a new Devil fruit class or what?

Gia Sado

@Superbear:

Concerning Sengoku, what is he exactly? Could he be a member of a new Devil fruit class or what?

Yea i just realized that he cant be a paramecia. His power isn't active all the time.

DoctorPhil

they suck, they cost as much as two zerglings but two zerglings own a marine

Zik

@Gia:

Yea i just realized that he cant be a paramecia. His power isn't active all the time.

What are you talking about? All paramecias abilities are not active all the time; Foxxy, Perona, Absalom, etc.

No reason to assume Sengoku's DF is a new class at all.

He just has a hax paramecia DF.

Johnny B. Decent

@Zik:

He just has a hax paramecia DF.

I wouldn't call it "Hax" yet, as we haven't really seen that much of it besides some Energy/Haki/Whatever Else waves.

Renegadesoul

Is their a subgroup for paramecias? I mean, Marco's Df is considered as mythological zoan type right? there is also the Drake's ancient Df.

Is sengoku's df god class?

andre

I still want to see more of Garp. A full fledged fight between him and one of the 11 supernovas maybe. Not asking for too much.

parklane21

I think that Sengoku is a zoan. Never seen any paramecia that has a full-body appearance transformation. Others only transforms partially (like Bellamy, Inazuma,…)

andre

Maybe he's a mythical Zoan like Marco. I mean, a giant bhudda statue is a mythical creature right?

mr.jack

it's all about garp.. he's stronger than any of the 3 admirals..

Superbear 22

@parklane21:

I think that Sengoku is a zoan. Never seen any paramecia that has a full-body appearance transformation. Others only transforms partially (like Bellamy, Inazuma,…)

I see what you're saying but don't forget Hawkins had a full body transformation.

parklane21

@Superbear:

I see what you're saying but don't forget Hawkins had a full body transformation.

I totally forgot about him. I guess I'm wrong. Sengoku can still be a paramecia.

JERK DISEASE

Since when have paramecias had definitions? They're a catch all for stuff that isn't Zoan or Logia.

SGRaaize

@S.C.:

I wouldn't call it "Hax" yet, as we haven't really seen that much of it besides some Energy/Haki/Whatever Else waves.

It seemed pretty hax, a bigass wave
Sengoku would have done so much more if he wasn't fighting on a place he considers sacred

mr.french

I wouldn't really consider his powers "hax". If anything, Blackbeard isn't at the right caliber to fight someone like Sengoku yet, or possibly any Admiral for that matter, even with his newly acquired power. If we look back at the the 3 Admirals placing their hands out, which seemed to be protecting the stand where Ace was held, then we can guess that it largely had to do with their expertise in using haki. (Although that's my assumption). So what I'm saying is, Sengoku probably displayed his amazing power due to his expertise in using haki with his attacks. At least that's my theory.

Also, Sentoumaru used his palm attacks in a similar manner, but Sengoku's attack was just on a much greater scale. If I remember right, Sentoumaru was able to push Luffy back quite far, as if it was almost like a shockwave attack.

baby-boo

Since Coby said that he will become an admiral one day, I think we'll see that somehow. Even though he is still young, his power has increased quickly.

Ryuunaga

@baby-boo:

Since Coby said that he will become an admiral one day, I think we'll see that somehow. Even though he is still young, his power has increased quickly.

He was trained by Garp correct? if he was, then there isn't any surprise that his power increased quickly.

LightningAce

@andre:

I still want to see more of Garp. A full fledged fight between him and one of the 11 supernovas maybe. Not asking for too much.

None of the "supernovas" are in the same league as Garp. It wouldn't be much of a fight, since it'd be over in probably 1 attack.

baby-boo

@Ryuunaga:

He was trained by Garp correct? if he was, then there isn't any surprise that his power increased quickly.

Yeah, but it's also his potential. I wonder how far Helmeppo or whatever will get.

Don Quichotte De Flamingo

iam interested in the sword guy who is with Garp.
seems to be a possible villain for zoro, seeinbg this guy able to cut steel.
but so far close to zero infos about him^^

Ryuunaga

@baby-boo:

Yeah, but it's also his potential. I wonder how far Helmeppo or whatever will get.

He seems to be the same as Koby to me.

@Don:

iam interested in the sword guy who is with Garp.
seems to be a possible villain for zoro, seeinbg this guy able to cut steel.
but so far close to zero infos about him^^

Are you referring tot he one that was in the Koby/Helmeppo training filler episode who was always next to garp? If so I agree with you he is a interesting character.

Jannekeman

@Ryuunaga:

He seems to be the same as Koby to me.

Coby has Mantra/Haki though. Which is also a sign of great potential.