Bizarre idea, with really less than zero to back it up. Just got this thought that the last crewmate is a marine who's undercover for some reason, and ends up joining to further whatever mission he/she is on, but ends up thinking of themselves as part of the crew.
Last Two Nakamates (vol. 5)
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Oh I don't care about the attractiveness of the crew members. I just don't know if Oda shares that opinion
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I don't think Oda would have made Franky join, or made Kokoro a mermaid and take her shirt off, if he was someone all about male demographic eye candy.
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I don't think Oda would have made Franky join, or made Kokoro a mermaid and take her shirt off, if he was someone all about male demographic eye candy.
The moment that he created the Okama-Tempo and the Kamabaka Kingdom, Oda is defenitely NOT like other mangakas when it comes to pleasing the male fans with ridiculously hot women in every corner (who also happen to love a main characters who ALSO happens to be so damn ugly…make me think the japanese are kind of traumatized in some way...).
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also, the mermaid princess herself was said to be extremely beautiful, so that doesn't matter anyways for her at least
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One thing to note as a problem with the idea of "we can't have an older woman than Robin because she'd be ugly" besides being flawed by sexism: everyone ages differently. Shakky is older than Robin, but she's still attractive. Aside from Kureha's face, her body hides the age of 139 well. Basically we can have any aged character, male or female, join, regardless of whether or not Oda has a fanservice/attractiveness quota to maintain. So the age argument for mermaids may as well be dropped as it's mostly irrelevant. Other than the mermaid princess probably not being old enough to walk on land…
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I think whoever joins she'll be a fine adition to the crew… See what I just did? I said "She" because Oh God in heavens!! Please let it be a woman the next nakama...
I don't fancy the idea of a fishman/mermaid joining the crew...
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Does anyone else think that in addition to the last two members, the crew will take on a couple of apprentice pirates (like a young Shanks and Buggy)?
In the epilogue or an OP movie after the comic is done.
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I don't think Oda would have made Franky join, or made Kokoro a mermaid and take her shirt off, if he was someone all about male demographic eye candy.
Wrong, he only did that to use it as a pun later.
One Piece is totally fan servicey. And yes men prefer women who are young and beaufitul whether these men are 15 or 40, big news… -
I think whoever joins she'll be a fine adition to the crew… See what I just did? I said "She" because Oh God in heavens!! Please let it be a woman the next nakama...
I don't fancy the idea of a fishman/mermaid joining the crew...
Honestly I would love for another female to join. Maybe a female more on manly side.
Off topic: Could I bother to ask you where did you get your picture sig?
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Wrong, he only did that to use it as a pun later.
One Piece is totally fan servicey. And yes men prefer women who are young and beaufitul whether these men are 15 or 40, big news…Regardless of why he did it, he did it, even if they aren't something guys wanted to see.
I don't think Oda is out to prove a feminist point, I'm just saying that he isn't afraid of drawing ugly, nongeneric or/and older female characters. And he isn't afraid of drawing trannies and/or things that would make normal guys go "argh my eyes!!" so I don't think he'd have anything against having a… non-ideal woman join the crew.
Also I don't think One Piece as a manga is really fanservice-y. The anime definitely is, though. If you want a manga that gets fan servicey go check out Fairy Tail. -
Robin is 30 now, I'll admit that. Brook and Franky I see as irrelevant, since they're male which does make a bit of a different. Still, I just don't feel the mermaid princess would be as old as or older than Robin. But that's just me
be funny if caime was the mermaid princess (theres a mermain queen thats in charge)
makes sense since they said they would take the sh to her
anyways last two are Jimbei and sabo
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Does anyone else think that in addition to the last two members, the crew will take on a couple of apprentice pirates (like a young Shanks and Buggy)?
if you are going to take them on might as well take vivi to she would be just as useful as them
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Chapter is out. Still no Perona
BTW does someone still say Jimbei is too strong to join?
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Honestly I would love for another female to join. Maybe a female more on manly side.
Off topic: Could I bother to ask you where did you get your picture sig?
go get a girlfriend, a wife or go watch porn
we don't need 50% of the crew female there are manga out there if you want lots of females with little on -
go get a girlfriend, a wife or go watch porn
we don't need 50% of the crew female there are manga out there if you want lots of females with little onobviously math is not your forte 3/10 or 11 if you prefer is hardly 50%
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Chapter is out. Still no Perona
BTW does someone still say Jimbei is too strong to join?
Kishishishishi, indeed, indeed, I really think the trio are possibly at his level right now, so yeah a monster quartet could be in store.
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Chapter is out. Still no Perona
BTW does someone still say Jimbei is too strong to join?
I never said Jinbei was too strong to join
I am Mansopp the most manliest man to ever man.
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I never said Jinbei was too strong to join
Did he talk to you lol? at the time(before timeskip) he was strong and people though he wouldnt join because he would be stronger then Luffy,etc.
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So why hasn't Perona had OUT added to her name?
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Because the fanbase is still believing she is somewhere at SA or at the Sunny and no one saw her so far
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"Perona traveled back to Saboady with Zoro to get her things from their ship, and then left shortly afterward. She forgot something very important to her, however, and will show up to retrieve it right as the crew is leaving. She will get on the ship right as Luffy shows up and end up stuck when they submerge to head towards Fishman Island. Coincidentally the important artifact will lead in to her sad past, as well as her dream. Just a thought, but I think she was a former slave, so her sad past will be central to Fishman Island."
^^ This is why she hasn't been outed yet. Also, not that anyone cares, but my stance on Jinbei has remained virtually unchanged since 2008.
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"Perona traveled back to Saboady with Zoro to get her things from their ship, and then left shortly afterward. She forgot something very important to her, however, and will show up to retrieve it right as the crew is leaving. She will get on the ship right as Luffy shows up and end up stuck when they submerge to head towards Fishman Island. Coincidentally the important artifact will lead in to her sad past, as well as her dream. Just a thought, but I think she was a former slave, so her sad past will be central to Fishman Island."
^^ This is why she hasn't been outed yet. Also, not that anyone cares, but my stance on Jinbei has remained virtually unchanged since 2008.
Have I forgotten the part where Perona ever had things on the Sunny?
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Have I forgotten the part where Perona ever had things on the Sunny?
Yeah, she was trying to use their ship to escape before Kuma puni'd her to Mihawk's crib. This is essentially the basis for all Perona theories.
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go get a girlfriend, a wife or go watch porn
we don't need 50% of the crew female there are manga out there if you want lots of females with little onY'know, it is possible to wish for another female member for something other than fapping purposes. I myself would be more interested in the character interaction and personality than anything else.
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Yeah, what I 'want' has no bearing whatsoever on who will actually join, but if I had a choice it would be a (strong) female fighter. Like, Monster Trio strong.
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Yeah, she was trying to use their ship to escape before Kuma puni'd her to Mihawk's crib. This is essentially the basis for all Perona theories.
wasnt that just the gold thou pritty sure she was in a hurry to leave and strawhats would gave half to big moms ugly girl pirate captain
also perona might have the monkey/ape things on mihawk island as her slaves now thanks to zoro which was her dream to have slaves and be on a island like mihawks
also if she went with zoro wouldent she have gone back to moria being that hes alive still
also she is weaker than usopp and oda said anyone joining has to be stronger than usopp
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Y'know, it is possible to wish for another female member for something other than fapping purposes. I myself would be more interested in the character interaction and personality than anything else.
the thing is people want WEAK females to join just so they can have more females
if females are going to join they need to useful and being able to stand against new world enermys
now when vivi joined she was only a temp as well we knew her dream was to save her kingdom she did with there help we knew she wasnt going to stay so it did not matter in that case that she was weak its different people want a new female character to stay so they need to be useful and being able to defend also need a dream which perona does not have anymore she did it
iva might have turned sabo into a female?
just get iva to turn jimbei/jinbei into a female and maybe sanji to lol there more females for ya and heres the thing they would all be useful and be good attackers
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wasnt [..] perona [..] also [..] also.
Just to be clear, I think that the suggestion that Perona might join is ridiculous and unfounded. I also cannot stand her, but that's somewhat irrelevant.
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What made you think Jinbei will join, Brennen? What gives him a better chance than a new fishman? What's it that you consider a hint from Oda?
Sorry for not reading your previous posts regarding this.
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Perona may be traveling with zoro in order to find her Master Moria-Sama, and i hope Not.
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What made you think Jinbei will join, Brennen? What gives him a better chance than a new fishman? What's it that you consider a hint from Oda? Sorry for not reading your previous post regarding this.
Post, more like. Initially, back in 2008 before he was introduced, I mentioned him half-heartedly because of his foreshadowed introduction and Fisher Tiger's yet-to-be explained past. My logic was that Oda had Jinbei planned out since way back in 1998/9, so he must have had big plans for him, yet even though he was the last to be physically introduced, Oda had set up a completely humble introduction. (As opposed to the others' grandiose entrances). So I figured, given his humble introduction and the confidence I had that Luffy would release him from prison, he will likely be at the very least an ally of Luffy's all the way to Fishman Island. There's more behind that, but I wont get into it right now. From there, my main reasons for thinking he would join specifically, were the fact that he would have to quit being a Warlord, that he had a bounty, that Oda had him planned out since the start of the series (character wise), and most importantly that we were pretty much guaranteed a flashback that involved him because of his time on Fisher Tiger's crew. Not much has changed since then, but the bit about Arlong helped with the foreshadow for a flashback, and his interactions with Luffy helped setup a close relationship for Fishman Island. All in all it went almost exactly how I thought it would, and I'm fairly confident it will continue to go that way through Fishman Island. Whether or not he actually joins in the end is impossible to say, but obviously he has my vote.
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Well, Whitebeard is dead. The fishman Island is no loner under the protection of his name. It needs someone strong enough to protect it from Pirates and Marines.
Plus, I doubt the new member will be stronger than any of the monster trio. I expect Jinbei to get a lot stronger in 2 years as well, since he kinda felt frustrated of himself because of his inability to protect people.
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Duval should be the newest crew member.
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@Sea:
Plus, I doubt the new member will be stronger than any of the monster trio. I expect Jinbei to get a lot stronger in 2 years as well, since he kinda felt frustrated of himself because of his inability to protect people.
I agree, I just can't see a monster quartet. I think that any new members would probably on Brook-Franky-Robin level, as much as I want a female character to join and be on the monster trio level.
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But brennen do you and the mods have a plan, to what time you will delete Perona from the poll?
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Post, more like. Initially, back in 2008 before he was introduced, I mentioned him half-heartedly because of his foreshadowed introduction and Fisher Tiger's yet-to-be explained past. My logic was that Oda had Jinbei planned out since way back in 1998/9, so he must have had big plans for him, yet even though he was the last to be physically introduced, Oda had set up a completely humble introduction. (As opposed to the others' grandiose entrances). So I figured, given his humble introduction and the confidence I had that Luffy would release him from prison, he will likely be at the very least an ally of Luffy's all the way to Fishman Island. There's more behind that, but I wont get into it right now. From there, my main reasons for thinking he would join specifically, were the fact that he would have to quit being a Warlord, that he had a bounty, that Oda had him planned out since the start of the series (character wise), and most importantly that we were pretty much guaranteed a flashback that involved him because of his time on Fisher Tiger's crew. Not much has changed since then, but the bit about Arlong helped with the foreshadow for a flashback, and his interactions with Luffy helped setup a close relationship for Fishman Island. All in all it went almost exactly how I thought it would, and I'm fairly confident it will continue to go that way through Fishman Island. Whether or not he actually joins in the end is impossible to say, but obviously he has my vote.
This is all very good reasoning. I think your argument makes even more sense after the whole promising Ace to take care of Luffy thing.
Personally I can see him joining easily, but not very hyped up about it because I always found him to be a boring character.As for other characters, I want to point out that I really really hope Sabo doesn't join. I love Sabo as a character, and I feel like his character deserves to have his own path, a strength greater to Luffy's, and for him to be a potential ally but not crewmember.
And I am also a supporter of a female nakama because the girls desperately need more interesting interactions. As of now it's pretty much all Nami because Robin barely stands out beyond an occasional giggle or smile.
Lastly I want to point out that I never meant to argue that the mermaid princess was a likely nakama. I think I'd like for the FI arc to be related to her somehow, but her joining sounds stupid considering there's been a princess before who couldn't join due to the fact she was a princess. -
But brennen do you and the mods have a plan, to what time you will delete Perona from the poll?
They will just make a new poll, when we reach Fishman Island and get to know new characters, why would they delete it? just drop it Kishido… It doesnt bother me, I dont even look at the poll, I come here to read some good/bad speculation/theories I only notice the poll when you guy are whining, I didnt even voted on it I believe.
Edit: Yeah I didnt, I voted in the older one.
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All Sh member somehow found another way to live, a change of view, a new philosophy, thanks to Luffy. Luffy guides them. Jinbei, on the other hand, is far more mature and stable and knowing his purpose in life and how he should live, thus he was the one to beat sense into Luffy when he lost his confidence and had his spirit broken. He guided Luffy. Completely different from other members, he has that superiority/seniority to Luffy. Jinbei joing is more unlikely due to that.
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@Sea:
Well, Whitebeard is dead. The fishman Island is no loner under the protection of his name. It needs someone strong enough to protect it from Pirates and Marines (1). Plus, I doubt the new member will be stronger than any of the monster trio (2). I expect Jinbei to get a lot stronger in 2 years as well, since he kinda felt frustrated of himself because of his inability to protect people (3).
I've argued this all before and my view on the matter remains the same. You are welcome to search my posts for more, but I'll at least touch on those three issues:
[hide]1.) Jinbei was captured before, and was in 'despair' prior to Whitebeard, so we know he isn't strong enough. Plus, him being (permanently) there publicly would only attract bounty hunters and Marines, which would be counter-productive.
2.) Even if we pretend Jinbei was stronger than Luffy before the timeskip, it would have been by very little and we can pretty much guarantee he won't be now. Zoro has always been neck-and-neck with Luffy, so there's little to no reason for him to be weaker than Jinbei as well. Sanji and Jinbei being on par with eachother makes more sense, given the way Ivankov and Jinbei tag-teamed during the war, Sanji should basically be on par with Ivankov now, if not stronger.
3.) Even if Jinbei had the same burning desire to gain more power, he would be too busy with Fishman Island to train the same way the crew did, because unlike them he doesn't have the luxury of being in a perfectly isolated training ground suited just for him. Well, that last bit is somewhat baseless, as he is a Fishman himself who uses Fishman Karate… but simple logic tells us any increase in power would come from natural progression, having fought multiple enemies more than likely during the two years.[/hide]
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Sanji and Jinbei being on par with eachother makes more sense
Even if this is true, this "monster quartet" thing seem unlikely to me.
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@Sea:
All Sh member somehow found another way to live, a change of view, a new philosophy, thanks to Luffy. Jinbei [..] beat sense into Luffy when he lost his confidence and had his spirit broken. He guided Luffy. Completely different from other members, he has that superiority/seniority to Luffy. Jinbei joing is more unlikely due to that.
Jinbei acted almost exactly like Zoro would have in that situation. Zoro has done similar before. Jinbei is in Luffy's debt, and has already been setup for loads of conflict. His situation would be like Nami, Sanji, or Franky's in the sense that they are bound by some sort of duty or responsibility that Luffy frees them from, one way or anther.
@Sea:
Even if this is true, this "monster quartet" thing seem unlikely to me.
Even with the rest of the crew growing leaps and bounds during the timeskip, suggesting no other strong members will join the crew is a little silly. "Monster Trio" is mainly a fanbase thing, as there is little to suggest it will always remain that way. The New World being what it is, the crew could use an extra powerhouse or two.
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@Sea:
All Sh member somehow found another way to live, a change of view, a new philosophy, thanks to Luffy. Jinbei, on the other hand, is far more mature and stable and knowing his purpose in life and how he should live, thus he was the one to beat sense into Luffy. Completely different from other members, he has that superiority/seniority to Luffy. Jinbei joing is more unlikely due to that.
Sea and you dont suppose there might be and there are for sure stronger Fishman/Merman there to defend the Island? Jimbei isnt the strongest for sure, that doesnt stop him from wanting to defend it yeah but I think thats not an obstacle at all for him to join since like I said Im sure there are enough people to defend it there, also yeah he might be stronger now, Im sure he is, but I doubt Luffy is not near or stronger then him because he wouldnt need Luffy possible "help" in the next arc if there is a conflict over there, if he was that strong and had all those Fishman/Merman there helping that Im sure are strong also.
I still think he can "spread the word" and be on the SHs ship as someone who dreams about peace between races and the history of slavery, the possible Fisher Tiger Flashback support that even more.
This can also be applied to any other new Fishman who has that same dream ofc but Jimbei already having the connection with Luffy, swearing to protect him to Ace, still wanting to apologise because of what Arlong did and the nice bonding moments they had in AL, also support Jimbei theories.
Like brennen said If I had to choose I would love to have Jimbei onboard but I dont really bother if another character joins, I really want a fishman with a dream like that and Fishman karate fightning style, the dream is also subjective but I wouldnt mind if his dream was peace between the races.
Edit: Wanted to quote the previows post you did not this one but wtv, should be understandable for you.
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Well I'm with brennen all the way… So many things are hinting a joining and some people just don't want to see it, cuz they found him boring and don't give him time to show his charracter... He is serious OK and we had a freaking war and all. Even Luffy and Garo hasn't showed their typical stupidness in it. So why should Jinbei show all of his quirks.
Now in FI we have a lot of time to see him more. And he has a lot of story with the whole Arlong, Ace, slavery and Fisher Tiger stuff.
Since Oda showed him being chained on in ID I had the feeling... It is similar to Zoro's situation in the past.
The last argument about him being too strong seems to be crushed now. And I have no problem with him being on par with Sanji as well. maybe not on land but in water. The rivaly with Sanji/Zoro would still stand cuz Jinbei wouldn't care about it. And all of them would be pretty close to each other
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I'm obviously still rooting for Jimbei at the moment, seeing as he's realistically the only current option available. But I have to concede he has to gain a lot more momentum now that he's been out of the picture for a while. Once we get close to FI, there's no telling how many other worthy candidates will pop up, whether mermaid or fishman, so I'll reserve judgement until we actually see ol' Jim again.
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I'm obviously still rooting for Jimbei at the moment, seeing as he's realistically the only current option available. But I have to concede he has to gain a lot more momentum now that he's been out of the picture for a while. Once we get close to FI, there's no telling how many other worthy candidates will pop up, whether mermaid or fishman, so I'll reserve judgement until we actually see ol' Jim again.
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I like Jinbei a lot, but him joining seems unlikely to me.
@brennen.exe:Jinbei acted almost exactly like Zoro would have in that situation. Zoro has done similar before.
Basically, yes. But Zoro behaved as an equal at best, while Jinbei acted senior.
Jinbei seems to have absolute no problem dying, or regret, unlike those with an unaccomplished dream. Or at least, he has that vibe.
He didn't give me the vibe of someone who will be under Luffy's command at all.
Oda has planned Hancock from long ago too, as seen in a color spread.
Jinbei's humbe introduction was a due, because of the plot at that moment.
These things didn't occur to me as Oda's hint.Plus, him being (permanently) there publicly would only attract bounty hunters and Marines, which would be counter-productive.
What do you think he has been doing over the last 2 years then?
Jinbei didn't even fight underwater for once in the war. His full strength is expected to be far more stronger than what he has shown.
Even with the rest of the crew growing leaps and bounds during the timeskip, suggesting no other strong members will join the crew is a little silly. "Monster Trio" is mainly a fanbase thing, as there is little to suggest it will always remain that way. The New World being what it is, the crew could use an extra powerhouse or two.
Well, "the monster trio" was a canon team coined by "the weakling trio". While I agree that's possible to have fighter of Luffy/Zoro's level in the crew, it doesn't seem very likely to me. I feel that some how breaks the balance. More of a personal perception problem, so I am not going to argue.
