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This is how it needs to happen.
Spider-Man getting a reboot.
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Oh hey it could be worse, imagine (don't actually try) a Spiderman flick directed by Michael Bay, with Shia LaBeouf as Parker and US military at main role….
Think you were supposed be talking about Ang Lee at least to Bay's credit the Villains wouldn't get killed off gimping any future films.
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I don't know if this is old news yet or not, but it seems Sony already has their director for the reboot
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/01/19/marc-webb-to-direct-new-spider-man-trilogy/
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I hope Peter Parker is not going to be played by Robert "sparkly vampire" Pattinson in the new trilogy. The fanbase will be swamped with Twi-hards, the zombie apocalypse will be upon us!
Then again, it is being released in 2012… :O
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Okay, decided since it's a reboot (dawn of a new era, etc), probably time for a new thread.
Andrew Garfield has just there now officially been announced by Sony to play Peter Parker.
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Aw man, what the hell?
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Okay, decided since it's a reboot (dawn of a new era, etc), probably time for a new thread.
Andrew Garfield has just there now officially been announced by Sony to play Peter Parker.
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Okay. We've gotten a little less fugly with our Peter option. Possibly more boyish, and a lot less insecure.
Good, but I've unforunately lost all interest in Spiderman…..unless we get a 'Maximum Carnage' plot.
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Stan Lee said that Tobey Maguire was his definative Peter Parker, so it'll be interesting to see how Garfield (snigger) ups his game.
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Funny director name is funny.
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The choice in Peter Parker seems alright. Dont think I have high hopes though.
I agree with the Carnage plot though. I would sure as hell love to see that. Carnage in the big screen and all.
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I was talking with my friends about this and I came up with a basic layout for a great trilogy for a rebooted Spider-Man franchise.
The villain of the first movie should be Chameleon. No joke. He was the first supervillain that Spidey fought, and is a great choice for someone who could really push a new superhero. Have him infiltrating different scenes and stealing information, and Peter finally catches him.
The second movie could be about the Chameleon escaping from prison after Spidey beats him in the first one and bringing in Kraven the Hunter. Mix up some stuff, do some good creative twists and have Kraven's initial hunt fail, just as in the comics, but have it immediately eat away with him and have the remaining portion of the film be a fantastic Kraven's Last Hunt adaptation.
Have the third movie do the classic Death of the Stacys, except have Norman Osborn be responsible for both George and Gwen's deaths, for a very emotional climax to wrap up the series.
I would love to see the series done this way.
Specifically on the actor chosen, he looks like a horrible pick.
I was actually of a fan of the rumor that the kid who played Chekov in the Star Trek reboot being Peter Parker this time around.
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Ugh, man that guy is a terrible pick.
Your plot seems kind of interesting though, so I hope they go with something of that route. It'd be a good idea.
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@Syan:
I was actually of a fan of the rumor that the kid who played Chekov in the Star Trek reboot being Peter Parker this time around.
Anton Yelchin? (Weird name.)
I actually agree with you completely. He'd be fantastic.
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Anton Yelchin? (Weird name.)
I actually agree with you completely. He'd be fantastic.
Yes, that's the kid I was referring to. Anton Yelchin. (I'm terrible with names)
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Stan Lee said that Tobey Maguire was his definative Peter Parker, so it'll be interesting to see how Garfield (snigger) ups his game.
I always thought Toby made a perfect Peter Parker. Even when the movies started to suck, he was still able to convince me with how awkward he is.
Honesty, if they were smart, they'd wait until a decade has past since Spidey 3, that way the series is less fresh in everyone's mind. It's been 3 years since 3 came out. That was the amount of time between 2 and 3.
If anything this is going to have the feel of a crappy sequel where the actors have all been replaced instead of a reboot.
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@Syan:
Yes, that's the kid I was referring to. Anton Yelchin. (I'm terrible with names)
I had to look it up. I'm not any better.
Who has production rights to this movie? Fox? Sony?EDIT: Read the first post.
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Ew, a Brit.
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I always thought Toby made a perfect Peter Parker. Even when the movies started to suck, he was still able to convince me with how awkward he is.
Honesty, if they were smart, they'd wait until a decade has past since Spidey 3, that way the series is less fresh in everyone's mind. It's been 3 years since 3 came out. That was the amount of time between 2 and 3.
If anything this is going to have the feel of a crappy sequel where the actors have all been replaced instead of a reboot.
Yeah, I found Maguire a perfect Parker. But tbh, I can see this whole Rebooting thing catching on much much more.
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Meh….he's giving me a Daniel Radcliffe vibe.
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@Cyan:
Funny director name is funny.
Ah, I didn't make the connection at first.
Must've been the low blood sugar.:ninja:I haven't seen this guy act, so I don't know what to say. Maybe I'll just go watch Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus and then see what to think.
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My problem is that I directly think about Maguire when I think about the motion picture Peter Parker.
I think he can pull a good Peter from his looks but I don't know if he is a good actor.So I think we'll have to wait.
And honestly: most of the time - or at least half of the movie - he is Spider-Man so you don't even see his face.
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My problem is that I directly think about Maguire when I think about the motion picture Peter Parker.
I think he can pull a good Peter from his looks but I don't know if he is a good actor.So I think we'll have to wait.
And honestly: most of the time - or at least half of the movie - he is Spider-Man so you don't even see his face.
Thinking about that though, you have me wondering - It's obviously a reboot, so they're
going to want to emphasise the differences. So I wonder what the New Spiderman Costume will look like?Probably just a few minor alterations here and there, but I definately don't think they'll give him Maguire's exact suit.
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That kid is not pretty in an ugly sort of way.
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He cant possibly make a worse Parker than i thought Maguire was.
Atleast with this guy i dont want to punch him in the face when i see him.
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Hey, Maguire was a terrible Peter AND Spiderman. So. Anyone else is probably a step up.
Presumably Snaggletooth is gone too, right?
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The only thing i worry about in this whole remake is whether or not J.K Simmons will be brought back.
If not it will drag down the final score by atleast 2 points.
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Yeah. J.J.J. was the best part of that franchise.
Easily.
For the most part, I wasn't a huge fan of the films. They were decent "catch you up in the moment at the the theatre" fare, but they didn't hold together too well after you finished watching them and thought about them at all. (And I absoluteley HATED Spidey's costume. It looked terrible, and there is just NO WAY a high school kid makes that on no budget.)
Hey Can we get the crew that did the Spectacular Spiderman toon to at least write the movie? And choreograph the fight scenes? That would be good. That would instantly guarantee some awesome.
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I would also give a honorable mention to Bruce Campbell, but yeah.
But yeah getting the spec guys on board would be a good move, not quite as good as giving the entire movie budget to the spec guys and having them ressurect the tv show but still a good move.
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A couple personal thoughts:
1. A Brit as Spider-Man? (yeah he was born in the US but still…) Could work but just have this feeling...
2. No Carnage. Ever. (at least I can accept Venom see that as convoluted as he is, he is just part of the rogues gallery)Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…
For the first 18 volumes.
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@Tokoro:
A couple personal thoughts:
1. A Brit as Spider-Man? (yeah he was born in the US but still…) Could work but just have this feeling...
He holds Dual Nationality. He's American too :)
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He holds Dual Nationality. He's American too :)
Mentioned that in the parethesis.
As for villain: I say do someone a bit more lesser known like how they used Sandman last time. Chameleon is a good choice, Electro or Kraven or Mysterio would be neat too. (I'd say Hobgoblin but if it's a reboot then we wouldn't have the Green Goblin yet…unless they go the 90s animated series route with Hobgoblin existing first)
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Howsa bout the Scorpion? Not to heavy on the back story and a lot of bang for your bucks.
As for Kraven i like the dude and i'd love to see him on the big screen, but how is he ever going to fill the big bad guys shoes. I mean he's a guy who's kinda strong in a jungle garb and shoots darts at people. Once Spidey gets past his poisons he beats him in two seconds flat.
But like i've said before what i'd love to see a a spidey flick that has more of an episodic feel to it, yknow there isnt one main villain there are 2 or 3 of them in the entire movie and they get wrapped up alot faster. Something like the Shocker robs a bank, brief fight and gab, bam there ends the fight and we're moving on with Peters social mishaps, oh what's that Rhino is ripping up shit down town in the middle of the date, cue the nicely coreographed fight scene etc etc you get the point.
Thus making it so that the focus of the story is on Peter Parker and his life, and the spidey fighting villains bit is more of the sideline and not the end all. No 2 hour build up that ends in a boring "dramatic" showdown ending on top of the empire state building but just another day where the teenager fighting a supervillain schtick cuts into his dating life, his family responsibilities and his job and how it all combines to lead in to a bummer ending for plain ol' Parker.
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As for Kraven i like the dude and i'd love to see him on the big screen, but how is he ever going to fill the big bad guys shoes. I mean he's a guy who's kinda strong in a jungle garb and shoots darts at people. Once Spidey gets past his poisons he beats him in two seconds flat.
Wow… I can't believe I just read that. You really need to read Kraven's Last Hunt and the currently-running Grim Hunt.
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Well Kraven's last hunt does seem pretty good, but i dont think any story lines that involve burying people alive or blowing your own brains out is going to float in a PG-13 flick.
If it put it this way then, i dont see how any version of the character that they're willing to do in a spidey in high school setting could ever be a credible threat for the duration of the film.
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What about Mysterio ?
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I find Mysterio about as entertaining as watching paint dry.
But he would bring in the whole CGI is awesome crowd, which i'm sure those producers would like after watching what Avatar made. But does he have it in him to be that large scale villain, always thought of him as a second fiddle to the big bad.
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Well Kraven's last hunt does seem pretty good, but i dont think any story lines that involve burying people alive or blowing your own brains out is going to float in a PG-13 flick.
If it put it this way then, i dont see how any version of the character that they're willing to do in a spidey in high school setting could ever be a credible threat for the duration of the film.
Kraven's actually about equal in strength with Spidey in certain stories. He wasn't just a perfect physical specimen, he also had potions and black magic if you want to get technical. He even has tricks that screw up Spider Sense.
Also, if Batman Dark Knight can have terrorist acts, murder by stabbing someone with a pencil, and torturing a man to death and sending his corpse as a calling card, all while having a PG 13 rating, then I see no issue with a drugged and beaten Spider-Man being buried alive for awhile and Kraven committing suicide… offscreen no less.
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Well Batman was always darker, and that wasnt taking place during Bruce Waynes high school days in a sunlit suburb. But honestly even if they could get away with it i dont ever want to see Spidey go down that "dark" and "edgy" road again, he's just not that kind of character atleast not in my eyes.
As for his strenght maybe they've upgraded him, but as i remember it originaly Kraven was far weaker than him. I think he had strenght for about 3 ton. While Spidey as a youngster had 10 tonish or so. Which pretty much meant lights out as soon as he got one clean punch in, but then again it is kinda evened out by how Kraven cheats at every possible point in a fight, with the oh so hilarious nerve pinch and those bags of jungle dust. God i love him.
But yeah i'm pretty much stuck at the Ditko Kraven, maybe his revamps has added some kind of seriousness to him.
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Ditko Kraven was his early stuff. He was still a pain, but not that bad, I suppose, but honestly, not many of the initial installments were seriously threats. Look at most of the first appearances for most of the villains. Still, Kraven is MORE than capable of headlining a movie. Even just the Spider-Man Animated Series from the '90s version of Kraven was awesome.
And it could be dark without ruining Spidey's character. I could see it working well.
Either way, it's doubtful they'd do a movie on the lesser-known villains. Sadly.
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Kingpin? Electro?
I'd like to finally see Electro in the movies.
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Think the Kingpin was of limits, as he's considered to be a Daredevil villain nowadays and thus is tied to that franchise.
But yeah if it goes the Nolan route i'll be sorely disapointed, i much prefere the normal kid trying to make it in life, worrying about his date on fridays night and paying the bills while casualy fighting supervillains version to the superhero in a bleak shithole with deranged psychos version that was popular during the 90's.
And while i like the 90's Kraven from TAS, i still couldnt see that version as a real threat to anyone.
Heck i even thought he made a pretty decent sidekick to spidey in that incarnation, maybe they could do that instead.
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Kraven is a strange villain. The most famous thing he ever did was kill himself.
I always thought he was an interesting character, a normal man hunting in the steel jungle, against Spiderman who was a much stronger opponent, focused on russian honor and revenge, and that the hunt, was all, and possibly use of wild animals, could be used well.
Then I discovered that in the comics Kraven uses black magic and strength enhancing bullcrap, and it turns increadibly dumb in a hurry. And that the reknowned Kravens last Hunt story was pretty shitty. That one was always better as described. "Kraven captures Spiderman, takes his place, and then as a normal mere man, does the job better than Spidey, proving himself the superior to the spider, but then he dies in the end."
So I always assumed there was an entire villain montage,with Kraven fighting like, oc Ock and Rhino and such, a heroic turn, and a tragic ending.
Then I actually read it and it involved an 8th tier crap villain, and needless bleak 80's uberdarkness of burying Peter alive and the suicide at the end. Much better story in my head.
Basically, Kraven always interested me until I actually read a story with him.
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What this reboot needs is a little jolt from the fan (and my) favorite Shocker.
One scene of him, and this movie will be far greater than the first and the second spidey flick combined.
But realisticly speaking it's probably going to be the Vulture. He's a credible enough threat, and he hasnt been used.
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I always seemed to wonder why people would say Mysterio sucks. Yeah the stupid fishbowl outfit can be silly, but he is literally a master of film tricks, forcing Spidey into worlds and scenarios that would screw with his mind. He could be a neat villain if anyone ever did him right. I mean, he could be a perfect example of maybe a satire about how "overblown" Hollywood has become with these types of movies.
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Mysterio's powers really need to be experienced for there to be any kind of pay of, i mean when you read the comics it's usualy just Spidey running around in kookily drawn worlds saying oh god am i going crazy. So yeah he might work on film.
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Mysterio is just boring in comparison to other villians.
I like Mysterio, though. I love his character design.
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If they use Mysterio then they would at least have a good reason to go "3-D".
I heard that they wanted to use the Lizard, however.
