Congrats on the name change Sea~ ;)
Sorry I don't understand what name change you are referring to. I am a total newbie.:ninja:
Thank.
Congrats on the name change Sea~ ;)
Sorry I don't understand what name change you are referring to. I am a total newbie.:ninja:
Thank.
:ninja: Really now? A total newbie? You are not The Sea? Then you certainly don't need this cake I made for him:
I'll just…eat it all by myself now~
Cakes again?
Is this alright?
Yup- brings out his cake stand- take that Jostars! Enjoy!
I should start keeping count of how many times I've heard this line.
up to a 100+ by now. I tell them they should stop.
Damn disgusting chapter… so painful to read, this was SO lame. Naruto used his jesus talk no jutsu with hug no jutsu against his darker self...well not that I expected much from Dark Naruto to begin with...
I dont think I have strenght to follow this damn series to end, this is just painful to read.
Killerbee seems to become Naruto's bitch #52, not a big loss at this point anymore, I found Killerbee to be waaaay too over-rated to the scale that it become a running joke on Naruto discussions...
God damn it I just wish that Kishi would make Naruto grand Hokage of entire Naruto verse and make everyone his bitches and this would be over...well I dont really have to read something I dont want to, even if it would only take 20 seconds / week...
Who is forcing you to read this??
Who is forcing you to read this??
Kishi with his good first half of the series that makes us just want to see how it all ends.
@robbybedfart:
Kishi with his good first half of the series that makes us just want to see how it all ends.
Also the awesome side characters.
@Cyan:
Also the awesome side characters.
Who? There is Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi,Suckura, tree dude, Madara and Killer Bee at Part 2 main cast, though Shikamaru played little part.
I dont think there is other charecters left.
The force of mockery is guiding me to read every new chapter.
Bee, Raikage, Tsunade, Madara (he's a dick but I like him), Kisame, Yamato, Kakashi, Kabuto.
Naruto gets way too much hate here
If some of the things that were mocked about Naruto were in One Piece, it would be seen as a godly piece of art
Also, some of these posts remind me of:
Everyone hates the emo in Naruto. This is NOT an exception in One Piece.
I love Naruto, I'm just pointing out factors which prevent it from being a great rather than a good series.
Series like HxH, OP, Dragonball and FMA go far beyond this and thus are great rather than just good.
@Uncle:
Everyone hates the emo in Naruto. This is NOT an exception in One Piece.
yupp.
That is partly why OP is great. It sticks to the tried and tested shonen archetype of struggle and victory, bypassing emoness. If there is tragedy it is done in a well written way.
I don't really see dark Naruto, or whatever as emo. It's simply the manifestations of all the negative thoughts within Naruto's conscious brought forth within his mind by Bee's stupid waterfall. Kishi could have simply pulled this off better. Maybe given him a better design… something more sinister and hateful...? No, they didn't need a long fight or anything like that, but the hug was just stupid... almost summing this little plot up as a waste of time. He literally killed it with kindness.
I would have been just fine with him like walking past it. Saying something cool and sucker punching it in the stomach.
This really puts us in jeopardy of seeing Naruto attempt to hug sasuke later on.
This forum really hates Ace though, some even regards him as Sasuke of OP, even though he is excact opposite of Sasuke. Ace was hated and despised as child and he was angsty and spiteful because of it but he grew up as cheery and adventorous guy with great loaylty to his captain.
Sasuke grewed up as loved and respected child to raging emo hatred-junkie who hates everyone and everything…
Tomorrow will be Ace vs Iceburg and while Ace will win that I think sheer amount of Ace haters in this forum will make poll quite close with under 100 diffrence on final amount.
Everyone hates the emo in Naruto. This is NOT an exception in One Piece.
Well Mihawk have huge fanbase among OP readers even though he is not most cheery person. But I guess there is a small diffrence between angsty emo and completely emotioneless guy who is trying to be ice cool.
Naruto gets way too much hate here
If some of the things that were mocked about Naruto were in One Piece, it would be seen as a godly piece of art
Wow. Going for the juju defense. Nope. We don't hate on Naruto just because its Naruto, or give OP a free pass, because its OP. We're just as harsh, probably harsher on OP, when it fails, because we have higher expectations for it.
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Screw that I love Ace, but then again I don't follow popular opinion, it just so happens with several of my fave series loads of other people love them too. Shandian- Mihawk is just badass cool. You can see how Sasuke tries to do this but fails epically with his whining- he would be cool ish if he just sut the fuck up and acted instead of moaning.
If you want actual cool aloof you should try Mihawk, or someone like Dio Brando etc.
One Piece has transcended Naruto time and time again, this is why I rate it higher and am less harsh.
Naruto gets way too much hate here
If some of the things that were mocked about Naruto were in One Piece, it would be seen as a godly piece of artAlso, some of these posts remind me of:
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1:45 - End
The things do happen in OP through. Luffy forgives people all the damn time. If Sasuke was in OP and then turned good. Luffy would say. "hey join my crew"
I also don't get how accepting your bad side is a bad thing.
Portgas D. Ace > Uchiha Sasuke
The End.
Don't forget the one thing Luffy hates above all, nakama killing. If Luffy knew that Sasuke attempted to murder Karin, he would slaughter him.
Why do people hate on Ace?? Ace is badass and just because he didn't want his friends to die means he is emo. WTF are you guys on?? Ace steeped in front of Luffy, just like Sasuke did for Naruto.
Trust me… as bad as Bleach can get... it easily makes Naruto look terrible by comparison sometimes.
Mostly due to the fact that Bleach is just meant to LOOK COOL.
As opposed to a show about two friends that really wub each other but are mortal enemies yadda yadda yadda.
i have to disagree, i think bleach is a piece of shit and naruto actually has substance, bleach doesn't even have a story line anymore it's just fighting non stop, and there are very few good fights now, bleach was amazing and so was naruto, now bleach sucks ass and naruto is somewhat enjoyable, that's the way I view it at least
Why do people hate on Ace?? Ace is badass and just because he didn't want his friends to die means he is emo. WTF are you guys on?? Ace steeped in front of Luffy, just like Sasuke did for Naruto.
I agree with this too, oh he said he'd rather die so he must be emo, yeah great, it's a dumb concept ace was a great character
-Ace came onto the scene full of "hey, you should like me because I'm cool!" as if he were Poochie
-complained about his pirate father, like a bitch
-wasted Luffy's SUCCESSFUL rescue by throwing his life away, because he couldn't keep his ego in check.
We were supposed to like him and see him as "cool" sheerly because he… was supposed to be cool by design. Which usually isn't.
Mostly it was bitching about his father being a pirate though that got him disliked.
@Friend:
Don't forget the one thing Luffy hates above all, nakama killing. If Luffy knew that Sasuke attempted to murder Karin, he would slaughter him.
BS Luffy would of went on a mission to hunt down itachi with Sasuke from the start. Robin tried to kill them before and so did most of his friends. Luffy don't give a damn, has long has he beleives you change.
Ace's mother was cooler than him by the time Akainu stole the damn show.
BS Luffy would of went on a mission to hunt down itachi with Sasuke from the start. Robin tried to kill them before and so did most of his friends. Luffy don't give a damn, has long has he beleives you change.
Luffy didn't take any of Usopp's shit and that was over a freaking boat. Sasuke would have gotten his shit pushed in and that issue would have been resolved years ago.
Ace is the only One Piece character I don't like at all. I have to thank Hinscher on that one. All that arguing once about whether or not the Rescue attempt was a success or a failure.
@robbybedfart:
-Ace came onto the scene full of "hey, you should like me because I'm cool!" as if he were Poochie
Don't a lot of characters? (to an extent)
-complained about his pirate father, like a bitch
Yeah, I'll agree with that.
-wasted Luffy's SUCCESSFUL rescue by throwing his life away, because he couldn't keep his ego in check.
I may have to reread the chapter, but wasn't he saving Luffy's life?
Ace is the only One Piece character I don't like at all. I have to thank Hinscher on that one. All that arguing once about whether or not the Rescue attempt was a success or a failure.
Fan ruining a character? Same thing happened to me with Blackbeard + crew and Perona (OH GOD THE TEXT).
juju's ruining Rock Lee for me with that avatar right now, however.
@Nobodyman:
I may have to reread the chapter, but wasn't he saving Luffy's life?
No, he just fell for Akainu's trolling like a moron.
Juju Wars VIII?
@Uncle:
Luffy didn't take any of Usopp's shit and that was over a freaking boat. Sasuke would have gotten his shit pushed in and that issue would have been resolved years ago.
This isn't about a boat through. If someone hurt Ussopp Luffy would say "lets kick their ass". DO you think Luffy would do the same if Ace was in Sasuke position?
This isn't about a boat through. If someone hurt Ussopp Luffy would say "lets kick their ass". DO you think Luffy would do the same if Ace was in Sasuke position?
You mean the position of abandoning comrades for trivial shit in addition to going insane? You bet Ace would get his ass kicked for that.
@Cyan:
You mean the position of abandoning comrades for trivial shit in addition to going insane? You bet Ace would get his ass kicked for that.
Luffy thought Nami betrayed them, but wouldn't believe it. Naruto tried to kick his ass and got beat. Similar to how Luffy would of gotten his ass beat by Ace. The question is would Luffy be able to kill Ace???
Luffy thought Nami betrayed them, but wouldn't believe it.
Somewhere out there, my old Foundations In Logical Reasoning professor just had a heart attack.
This isn't about a boat through. If someone hurt Ussopp Luffy would say "lets kick their ass". DO you think Luffy would do the same if Ace was in Sasuke position?
Sasuke's angst at this point in the story is just him being a whiny little bitch. The whole point of Itachi's sacrafice flew right over his head and now he's taking his anger out on people not directly involved with the slaughter of the Uchiha clan. For sure Luffy is all about getting revenge on others for his nakama but he's not going to involve innocent outsiders ESPECIALLY if those outsiders are his FRIENDS. If Ace was in Sasuke's position, i.e. wanting to killing Luffy's nakama just because his anger is misplaced then Luffy would beat his ass.
If you don't believe that Luffy would get pissed off from involving innocent people either then check out Zoro back on Whiskey Peak. He was ready to hand him an ass kicking from a misunderstanding. He beat down Usopp when Usopp started talking shit. He punched Garp when he got in the way of rescuing Ace. He punched Coby when he got in the way. I think you're underestimating Luffy's resolve to lay his fists down on a friend's face.
I may have to reread the chapter, but wasn't he saving Luffy's life?
He and Luffy were getting away just fine. And then Akainu said "Whitebeard is a loser!" at which point Ace stopped, turned around, and tried to fight him. Then after getting his ass kicked for a bit, started trying to run again, and that's what put Luffy in danger in the first place.
Luffy thought Nami betrayed them, but wouldn't believe it.
Thus, he didn't think Nami betrayed them. You just said it yourself.
Sasuke has specifically told Naruto to his face, "I am going to kill you all", and was in the middle of deadly attacks on Sakura and Kakashi before Naruto intervened. Everyone, Sasuke himself included, have accepted the fact that he's betrayed Naruto. Naruto is the only one that hasn't.
And the second the possibility came up… he foamed at the mouth and had a seizure.
@robbybedfart:
-Ace came onto the scene full of "hey, you should like me because I'm cool!" as if he were Poochie
….... that was a stupid comment I don't even feel needs to be addressed
@robbybedfart:
-complained about his pirate father, like a bitch
You guys over exagrated this SOOOOO MUCHHHHH!!!!!! with all those stupid pics I mkean really he said this because he wanted WB to be known as his dad, and of course he doesn't like Roger, If anyone ever found that out they'd kill him he was hated because of this, he honored WB as his dad and disregard Roger, i thought this was rather cool showing he really believes WB to be his father
@robbybedfart:
-wasted Luffy's SUCCESSFUL rescue by throwing his life away, because he couldn't keep his ego in check.
His father is about to die to save him and someone makes fun of him, well if you wouldn't smack a bitch for that then i really doubt your character you don't just let that kind of shit slide, at least a real man doesn't if my dads going to protect me and someone talks shit about him i'd definitely go kick the crap out of a guy like that, apparently we have different views on this
plus the thing you conveniently left out here is the fact he didn't know akainu could hurt him he's a logia of course he wasn't expecting to get hurt it just worked out that way he was expecting to throw a punch in and get out of there, and he died saving luffy
it's not ego when your defending someone you love
@robbybedfart:
We were supposed to like him and see him as "cool" sheerly because he… was supposed to be cool by design. Which usually isn't.
Mostly it was bitching about his father being a pirate though that got him disliked.
Do you remember him before he was a cool character how can you say it was just design, and you guys blow everything out of proportion, he hardly complained, and when he did he was basically saying he wanted WB to be considered his father
and it's not like Gold Roger did shit to make his life good, if he ever revealed that they'd kill him, he was alone and it was because of his father
When it comes to Ace, I'm of two minds about him.
a) I could never understand his ridiculous popularity with the fandom, esp. prior to his fight with Blackbeard. He was just Luffy's older brother, to me. That didn't really justify him ranking so high in popularity polls despite the fact he was never around.
b) I can't really get behind what a pariah this community has turned him into either, though. While I do agree his motivations and backstory were handled poorly by Oda, I definitely don't think he's the Sasuke of One Piece. If it had been Luffy who had been rescued by Ace, and it was Akainu who was insulting a dying Shanks, you can be 100% sure that Luffy would be dead right now.
at least a real man doesn't if my dads going to protect me and someone talks shit about him i'd definitely go kick the crap out of a guy like that, apparently we have different views on this
So does Ace.
plus the thing you conveniently left out here is the fact he didn't know akainu could hurt him he's a logia of course he wasn't expecting to get hurt it just worked out that way he was expecting to throw a punch in and get out of there, and he died saving luffy
Ace is ignorant.
Do you remember him before he was a cool character how can you say it was just design, and you guys blow everything out of proportion, he hardly complained, and when he did he was basically saying he wanted WB to be considered his father
Be honest, I thought he was cool as hell after this:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/159/18-19/
Too bad it went away during Impel Down.
Do you remember him before he was a cool character
The easy joke answer here would be a one word "no" and leave it at that. But I don't even understand what you're asking.
He was cool the instant he showed up. With the tatoos and crazy accessories and the attitude and the "luffy's brother!" status just given to him immediatley. And for the ONE chapter he was in with Luffy, he was pretty awesome in that one scene where he smashed that boat.
Or are you asking, "What did I think of the character before he was popular? And thus, I only hate him BECAUSE he's popular?" That's a pretty stupid attitude to have, and my opinions aren't swayed so easily.
But the first time I heard someone use the nickname "Poochie", I knew exactly who they meant. If you don't get the Poochie reference, then thats the only reason you don't see it as both apt, and funny.
The funniest part is you're getting all bent out of shape about opinions that aren't even mine. I was just stating the reasons for the general dislike of the character that are most commonly given.
When it comes to Ace, I'm of two minds about him.
a) I could never understand his ridiculous popularity with the fandom, esp. prior to his fight with Blackbeard. He was just Luffy's older brother, to me. That didn't really justify him ranking so high in popularity polls despite the fact he was never around.
b) I can't really get behind what a pariah this community has turned him into either, though. While I do agree his motivations and backstory were handled poorly by Oda, I definitely don't think he's the Sasuke of One Piece. If it had been Luffy who had been rescued by Ace, and it was Akainu who was insulting a dying Shanks, you can be 100% sure that Luffy would be dead right now.
That wasn't the first lesson that Luffy learned from Shanks? That there are risk that shouldn't be taken?
lol he defeated him by hugging him. This shit is so gay. Killer Bee must've used a tentacle fist to beat his version.
Tentacles datebayo…... lol :ninja:
I think it's easier to just say Killer Bee got a default win since there's no reason he'd have a dark side.
Killer Bee defeated his dark side by listening to Grandmaster Flash, De La Soul, Run-DMC, and Sugarhill Gang.
Hugging to beat your angst is for pussies.
@Uncle:
I think it's easier to just say Killer Bee got a default win since there's no reason he'd have a dark side.
naa… all black people are born with a dark side.
@Uncle:
I think it's easier to just say Killer Bee got a default win since there's no reason he'd have a dark side.
Because he's dark already?