I never had any doubts that he was Division Commander. But the last? I only count 12 DC's on the last spread. With Marco, Ace and Thatch who aren't there for obvious reasons we have 15. Where's #16?
I guess you didnt count this giant
Or this guy who is also there.
It looks like the last unidentified Division Commander being the Super Mario like chained ball guy is much more likely now,
seeing him standing with the other division commanders at the front line in the last page.We always figured he's most likely the last one, but this is further indication.
Happy he was finally confirmed, the little doubt in my mind was because he never showed up after is initial appearance. We also finally find out that Atmos is alive and kicking. One of the division commanders doesn't appear in the spread though (at least I can't find him.)
I never had any doubts that he was Division Commander. But the last? I only count 12 DC's on the last spread. With Marco, Ace and Thatch who aren't there for obvious reasons we have 15. Where's #16?
He's the last one we didn't know yet.
There's 13 in the last pic, if you include the ball-with-chains guy.
You might be missing the spearman between Curiel and the fiery blades geezer?
And since Kizaru can move from a to b that fast he is unable to move his arm at that speed holding a lightsaber due to his abilities?
When ever we see kizaru do a light kick you see some light trails on his feet . When he was fighting ray we did not see nothing like that showing he was moving his arms so fast . As for luffy being able to move faster there always room to grow but he should never be faster than kizaru from going to point a to b never .
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Wow!!! Franky is with the WB pirates!!:
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piecel/566-5/11
I never did get that, unless of course light isn't the fastest thing in the OP universe.
Doesnt really make sense.
In all honesty how is it possible kizaru even gets hit? how is it possible he gets blocked?
He is travelling with the speed of light.
I guess Jimbei and Iva aint on the plaza. They will have to fight the pacifistas.
What an awesome chapter! ^^
I never expected Crocodile to save Ace from being killed. I think that was pretty cool. Also, liked how Whitebeard had another ship hidden. That was pretty smart of Whitebeard to do. Poor Oars though. At least he managed to get everyone onto dry land. Also, can't wait to see Sengoku and Garp fight Whitebeard.
If you have a shield such as ambition completely surrounding you, you could block anything no matter the speed and counter.
~Kyoujin Pirates Treasurer~
When ever we see kizaru do a light kick you see some light trails on his feet . When he was fighting ray we did not see nothing like that showing he was moving his arms so fast .
But you do understand that it doesn't make sense for him to slow down against a stronger opponent than all the rookies together?
Or is your argument that kizaru needs some time to move at lightspeed from a to b? In that case let me ask you what happened here:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/562/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/562/09/
To me it doesn't look like kizaru used his travelling speed to kick luffy. It looks much more like he was standing in front of luffy and just gave him a superkick in the face.
Why wouldn't he do that against rayleigh? Because rayleigh would block it? Which means rayleigh is able to block kizaru kicking someone with greater speed than gear second?
My entire argument is that kizaru shows luffy that he still is too slow even with gear second. Which is nice to see cause one day luffy will be much faster and might probably be as fast as rayleigh.
Never get what , for kizaru to move as fast as light he needs to use his power . Plus being to so close to rayleigh won't make any sense any way since he can get hit in light form. He try to get light speed kick at ray his foot would have gotten chop off.
I understand that much, but I'm wondering if characters in OP don't have lightspeed as the ceiling of how fast any character can move. Now some chapters back we saw Marco speeding towards Kizaru and making contact with a kick when arguably Kizaru being capable of moving at lightspeed should be able to dodge him, difference is that Kizaru's speed is granted by his fruit and one would think he's the fastest in OP for that reason.
That or Kizaru has limits to what he can do in lightspeed, so he might not be able to fight effectively with a sword while swinging it that fast. The issue is just that if Kizaru could use his sword at that speed, then why didn't he against Rayleigh? Then on the otherhand, if he did, are we to believe that rayleigh was moving at lightspeed?
Meh then again in real life arguments like, "light is the fastest thing known in existence" are sort of a waste in a comic.
Does anyone think that WB looks a bit sad in this one?
Well with the marines having 3 Admirals (4 with Garp, at least strength-wise) and Sengoku, which is probably the strongest marine, dont you think that someone will show up and assist Whitebeard to even the balance ? I dunno who can stant (or at least hold !) all those top 5 marines in whitebeard crew. And still no word on Shanks vs kaidou, thats disapointing…
Oda clearly hasn't taken physics. Case in point heavy point makes Chopper fall faster. Also this is a manga where eating fruit gives you super powers. Conventional logic and physics need not apply.
"So it goes." - Kurt Vonnegut
Does anyone think that WB looks a bit sad in this one?
He might be sad about Oars or the dead fodder or he may think that he isnt able tomake it till the end.
Does anyone think that WB looks a bit sad in this one?
This one of the panels I mentioned a few posts back. :(
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Oda clearly hasn't taken physics. Case in point heavy point makes Chopper fall faster. Also this is a manga where eating fruit gives you super powers. Conventional logic and physics need not apply.
Which is why I wasn't sure if I should have even bothered to bring it up. It's just that of course Kizaru would call Luffy too slow, he moves at lightspeed.
When ever we see kizaru do a light kick you see some light trails on his feet . When he was fighting ray we did not see nothing like that showing he was moving his arms so fast .
That first strike was Kizaru's "light" speed. The rest of the attacks are just illustrated with sparkles, but they don't indicate any reduction in speed. Just a bunch of attacks in a single instant.
That first strike was Kizaru's "light" speed. The rest of the attacks are just illustrated with sparkles, but they don't indicate any reduction in speed. Just a bunch of attacks in a single instant.
Ok case closed :)
Looks like we're back to 19 pages of goodness. :)
Fuck yes.
And hey, there's that ball-and-chain pirate (Jack Sparrow lookalike) again. Is he a Division commander?
Oda clearly hasn't taken physics. Case in point heavy point makes Chopper fall faster. Also this is a manga where eating fruit gives you super powers. Conventional logic and physics need not apply.
With Oda admitting that math is his weakest skill, it's no wonder.
Seems like it…
But you do understand that it doesn't make sense for him to slow down against a stronger opponent than all the rookies together?
Or is your argument that kizaru needs some time to move at lightspeed from a to b? In that case let me ask you what happened here:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/562/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/562/09/To me it doesn't look like kizaru used his travelling speed to kick luffy. It looks much more like he was standing in front of luffy and just gave him a superkick in the face.
Why wouldn't he do that against rayleigh? Because rayleigh would block it? Which means rayleigh is able to block kizaru kicking someone with greater speed than gear second?
My entire argument is that kizaru shows luffy that he still is too slow even with gear second. Which is nice to see cause one day luffy will be much faster and might probably be as fast as rayleigh.
No my point is no matter how fast luffy get . He should never get to some place before kizaru can gear 2 or not . Comparing to kizaru when it comes to speed from point A to B no one should be as fast as him maybe enel but no one else.
I understand that much, but I'm wondering if characters in OP don't have lightspeed as the ceiling of how fast any character can move. Now some chapters back we saw Marco speeding towards Kizaru and making contact with a kick when arguably Kizaru being capable of moving at lightspeed should be able to dodge him, difference is that Kizaru's speed is granted by his fruit and one would think he's the fastest in OP for that reason.
That or Kizaru has limits to what he can do in lightspeed, so he might not be able to fight effectively with a sword while swinging it that fast. The issue is just that if Kizaru could use his sword at that speed, then why didn't he against Rayleigh? Then on the otherhand, if he did, are we to believe that rayleigh was moving at lightspeed?
Meh then again in real life arguments like, "light is the fastest thing known in existence" are sort of a waste in a comic.
Well maybe kizaru needs time before he could get up to full speed while he could move as fast as the speed of light . So maybe when he is in full light form he can move as fast as light but when in body form he can't go as fast .
That first strike was Kizaru's "light" speed. The rest of the attacks are just illustrated with sparkles, but they don't indicate any reduction in speed. Just a bunch of attacks in a single instant.
That from the swords hiting each other you have to look at kizaru arms there moving at normal speed. when kizaru sword hits ray one you see sparks just like countless other sword fights.
It should also be noted i don't think kizaru attacks are as fast as speed of light all the time.
But as HaxeyeMihawk said makes no sense going to deep about this in a manga where allot of things don't make sense.
Well with the marines having 3 Admirals (4 with Garp, at least strength-wise) and Sengoku, which is probably the strongest marine, dont you think that someone will show up and assist Whitebeard to even the balance ? I dunno who can stant (or at least hold !) all those top 5 marines in whitebeard crew. And still no word on Shanks vs kaidou, thats disapointing…
Shiki fought off both for a while. Whitebeard can too. If everyone is occupied Luffy can sneak through. Whitebeard doesn't have to win he just needs to free Ace and get the hell out of there.
Marco, Jozu, Vista (and the rest of the division commanders) can handle Aokiji, Akainu, Kizaru.
Also, Hancock seemed pretty eager to jump in and save Luffy from Aokiji. I suspect she'll get her moment in the sun if only to prove that she is way too strong for the crew at present. (Oda is giving her a lot of panel time.)
well i have no proof but i think doflamingo cut crocs head off with a Rankyaku since his hands were in his pockets…. i've had a theory (nows the time to run and hide) that doflamingo is like sanji when he's facing people he usually uses his legs to protect his hands which are precious to a puppeteer, we know he has amazing leg strength anyways because of his jump over oars head, idk why i think this probably because i've always thought he would face off against sanji
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Just had to say after reading the chapter that it was one of my favorites of the war so far. So much awesomeness, Croc, Oars, Whitebeard all showing heart and busting out and with Sengoku and Garp about to join the mix I think i'll have a heart attack next chapter.
Well we just got our true WB + Division Commanders spread (save for Marco being absent) to go along with the VA spread, and Luffy + Co. spread, so maybe we have a BB pirates spread coming soon?
I think it's becoming more and more obvious Doflamingo has the wire/string fruit.
http://www.mangastream.com/read/one_piece/566-5/8
Notice the short trail going from Crocs severed head pointing towards Doflamingo? Like something was pulled…
Well we just got our true WB + Division Commanders spread (save for Marco being absent) to go along with the VA spread, and Luffy + Co. spread, so maybe we have a BB pirates spread coming soon?
Here you go: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/542/04-05/
There is chapter next week??
Him using strings doesn't mean he needs a devil fruit to do so.
Whenever Ace looks in the mirror from now on he should think that Croc is the reason why he is alive and he should thank him for the rest of his life.
Glad to see the ball and chain guy is pretty much confirmed as a Commander, he is too awesome to be just fodder.
But what really surprised me is that it looks like some of the New World pirates (captains) also seems to be in that last spread.
We saw one of the pirates mentioning they had to get out of the rear, with all the PX´s rampaging there, so It´s possible some of the went to the Ice/ water and are now at the Plaza alongside Whitebeard.
Pay close atention at the Panda guy: the gloves, headgear, and sword and Shirt looks exactly the same
What do you guy think? Will we see some of the NW Captains doing something in the Plaza?
Marco has developed an interesting habit of kicking Admirals around… Seriously cool!
Great chapter overall!
10x for trans and scans.
BTW the look on WB face in the last page makes me worry.
Yup, and with a color spread. Three times in a row!
Wow!!! Thank you!!!! I'll give you a reward: Franky is this chapter!!!!
Look: http://mangastream.com/read/one_piecel/566-5/11
Next Time WB pirates colourspread deifinitely !!!!!!
Wow!!! Thank you!!!! I'll give you a reward: Franky is this chapter!!!!
Look: http://mangastream.com/read/one_piecel/566-5/11
There is someone on the bottom right panel closer to the left side of the picture that looks like Franky but I don't think it's him. ^^; It's Franky with a sword an a Hawaiian shirt. :D
~Kyoujin Pirates Treasurer~
Great Chapter. Should've figured Shirohige's trump was a 5th ship. And Croc stepping up to the plate was awesome. Marco even cockblocked the Admirals. And the spread at the end is awesome, too… but why are Joz and Vista in it? If I recall, Vista was already on the land, having just disengaged with Mihawk, and Joz was with Croc and Doflamingo.
Also, Garp and Sengoku stepping up to the plate... no wonder Oda did Chapter 0 just before this.... The two ORIGINAL Admirals are gonna kick some ass.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
All hell's gonna break loose next chapter! The highest rank Marine and the strongest Vice-Admiral are gonna whoop some ass 
! I loved that panel where Croc took out the executioners, and then when he got his head cut off. I want Oda to reveal Doflamingo's fruit already. Luffy gets his ass beat again as usual 
. Though I didn't really expect him to do anything. Whitebeard's attack took out a crap-load of people.
@Fire Fist:
I've heard of Soap-on-a-rope, but Ship-on-a-rope?
lol
@Vermouth:
Wow!!! Franky is with the WB pirates!!:
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piecel/566-5/11
I just noticed that. It's a possibility that he's Franky's father, who is a pirate.
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@Fire Fist:
Great Chapter. Should've figured Shirohige's trump was a 5th ship. And Croc stepping up to the plate was awesome. Marco even cockblocked the Admirals. And the spread at the end is awesome, too… but why are Joz and Vista in it? If I recall, Vista was already on the land, having just disengaged with Mihawk, and Joz was with Croc and Doflamingo.
Also, Garp and Sengoku stepping up to the plate... no wonder Oda did Chapter 0 just before this.... The two ORIGINAL Admirals are gonna kick some ass.
Jozu wasn't with Croc and DoFla since Croc using his storm attack. And you could see Jozu with WB last chapter. And Vista and Mihawk end their battle
Meh, with so many unique looking characters you're bound to repeat some models you've already used.
@Kairouseki:
All hell's gonna break loose next chapter! The highest rank Marine and the strongest Vice-Admiral are gonna whoop some ass
You forget that Garp is admiral level but he declined it way back ant not just once
well i have no proof but i think doflamingo cut crocs head off with a Rankyaku since his hands were in his pockets…. i've had a theory (nows the time to run and hide) that doflamingo is like sanji when he's facing people he usually uses his legs to protect his hands which are precious to a puppeteer, we know he has amazing leg strength anyways because of his jump over oars head, idk why i think this probably because i've always thought he would face off against sanji
He cut off his head the same way he sliced Oars' leg clean off. He is a puppet master…he uses invisible wires to control people and clearly he can use em to slice body parts off...which infact makes his fruit that much more evil...
@Kairouseki:
Luffy gets his ass beat again as usual
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I get it. Luffy's pretty intelligent to come up with that plan.
He kicks the shattered pillar, the three admirals activate their logia powers to have the shattered pieces of the pillar "phase" through them. Luffy then activates Gear 2 to run past them (since the three admirals are in "phase" mode, Luffy can just breeze right through them).
He almost ends up succeeding but Kizaru, with his speed-of-light power catches up and kicks Luffy away again.
That's what I make out of the pictures. (Pages 4-5)
Doesn't change that fact that he got beat :sideways: .
But he clearly had a good idea. He is just not strong enough.
