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    Complaints Against the New One Piece OP Song Surge to Toei Animation

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    • Airflow
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      @Kouji:

      Frankly, the series hasn't had an opening song that truly fit it since the first one. Everything since then has been nothing but flavor of the week, just like the most recent entry. Some worked, some didn't, people moved on. The only reason people's panties are in a bunch is because the current arc is 'dark and gritty' for 'serious, mature people'.

      No I'm sorry, Believe, Brand New World and Kokoro no chizu fit it far better than We Are did. We Are boils down One Piece to "dreams!!!" which is fine if a bit simplistic.

      It's One Piece, not Claymore or Death Note. I doubt the show's ever going to have a 'hard edged' opening theme. You're free to dislike the song, but acting as if it's the worst thing that could happen to the show and damn near attacking those that disagree with you? Now that's pathetic.

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        pot kettle black

        There's a difference between calling someone out on their poor behavior and basically telling someone "Your opinion doesn't matter because of where you live. Go away."

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          He basically meant that you don't know jackshit.

          And you don't.

          Originally Posted by Silence

          And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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            I never said that I did. I was giving my own opinion, which is that I don't feel that the song is as ill fitting as others do. Sorry that I'm not blindly agreeing with the hivemind, but I hardly feel it warrants such hostility.

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              Actually, this would be a pretty fucking badass anime opening theme.

              ILEsEK-JkJI

              And its even called "The New World." Nice.

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                @dirt:

                He basically meant that you don't know jackshit.

                And you don't.

                I'm sorry, I didn't realise we were in the presence of a anime music sage.
                Please enlighten us lesser beings, whose lowly opinions cannot possibly stand in the face of your greatness.

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                  Hrm.

                  Guy who lives in Japan and speaks the language and is surrounded by Japanese culture and television, gets countless exclusives, translates inteviews, attends and reports on Jump Festa,and can actually identify the Japanese equivilent of the Sesame Street song when he hears it , and has been a member of these boards since before this iteration of the board was in place…

                  Or a guy in america whose joined a couple months ago and has shown nothing to indicate he even speaks the language or grasps the context of the subject involved, (let alone why people are bothered by it) and has made a grand total of 28 posts.

                  I can't imagine why one opinion would carry more weight than the other.

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                    I honestly can't tell the difference between this opening and any other typical One Piece opening but those are just my ears. A shame that most people don't like it because the animated sequences are like the best ever.

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                      Guy who lives in Japan and speaks the language and is surrounded by Japanese culture and television, gets countless exclusives, translates inteviews, attends and reports on Jump Festa,and can actually identify the Japanese equivilent of the Sesame Street song when he hears it.

                      I don't care if he lives in Timbucktoo, or if he has a PHD from the Centre of anime opening music studies.
                      If he feels the need to disparage other people in order to promote his 'opinion', I'll tell you how much it is worth to me.

                      Jack-shit.

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                        @dan2026:

                        I don't care if he lives in Timbucktoo, or if he has a PHD from the Centre of anime opening music studies.

                        So… someone having a far more educated insight, background and history is moot in an argument?

                        If he feels the need to disparage other people in order to promote his 'opinion', I'll tell you how much it is worth to me.

                        Jack-shit.

                        Who was disparaging? He noted the guy was talking without apparently having much idea what he was talking about, and pointed to his stateside location as a quick and immediate LIKELY indicator that his opinion is less likely to be informed.

                        The guy may have a solid grasp of Japanese and have seen tons of Japanese television, but its not the immediate impression given.

                        If you like the song, hey, thats fine.

                        But if you don't understand it or what it represents or why people are upset, if all you hear is the sheer music without any of the other context behind it, or even… what the lyrics mean?

                        But hey. Like I said. I can't imagine why one opinion would carry more weight than the other.

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                          @robbybedfart:

                          So… someone having a far more educated insight, background and history is moot in an argument?

                          Who was disparaging? He noted the guy was talking without apparently having much idea what he was talking about, and pointed to his stateside location as a quick and immediate LIKELY indicator that his opinion is less likely to be informed.

                          The guy may have a solid grasp of Japanese and have seen tons of Japanese television, but its not the immediate impression given.

                          If you like the song, hey, thats fine.

                          But if you don't understand it or what it represents or why people are upset, if all you hear is the sheer music without any of the other context behind it, or even... what the lyrics mean?

                          But hey. Like I said. I can't imagine why one opinion would carry more weight than the other.

                          I never meant to come off as a know-it-all, and I apologize to anyone I might have offended/ticked off/whatever if that's the impression I gave off. I was merely giving my honest opinion. I'm also sorry for overreacting. I've always had a short temper, but lately I've been trying to cool it down. I guess that didn't last long.

                          However, I'm still not seeing how this song is all that offensive. It is only slightly more childish than previous opening songs, and that's only in superficial terms. The lyrics themselves aren't any worse than what came before, unless there's some subtext I'm missing.

                          Anyway, I'm just going to drop it. I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. I think the song fits the show in general just fine. The anime always did skew just a little lower than the manga in terms of demographics.

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                            I'm sorry what does that have to do with anything, this guy's opinion is as valid as anyone else's.

                            How can you say with absolute certain what piece of music fits in a 'Shounen' anime and what don't. Does, Dvorak's Symphony No 9, fit in a 'Shounen' anime?
                            No, why would classical music fit in a children's tv show, that's ridiculous.

                            Fair enough if you don't like the new opening, but you are also not the final authority on anime music.
                            And when you start saying someones opinion isn't valid because they live in Washington and have not seen every anime on the planet, my bullshit detector starts going haywire.

                            This post is so funny I burst out laughing and my coworkers asked what was wrong and I explained that I read a post by dan2026 and they all cracked up because that's what all Japanese people do when they hear that dan2026 wrote a post because all Japanese people have all read so many of dan2026's posts and they know him so well and have grown up knowing him, being surrounded by him and absorbing his culture from their vantage point in the middle of the mountains in Japan so they are the ultimate authority on all things dan2026.

                            When they say dan2026 made a dumb post, that is the final verdict despite what others might say.

                            Similar to an individual from a foreign country that has seen a sliver of televised animation from Japan stating that because they've seen a few shonen anime with poppy childish openings, that means this is perfectly normal.

                            I suggest you reconfigure your bullshit detector and recalibrate your reading comprehension receptors.

                            Liking or not liking the opening has nothing to do with my snipe. I am the champion of Opinion's Suffrage. However, when people from foreign countries start saying that this opening is fine because 'so many others' have poppy openings of this nature, I'm hard-pressed to come up with more than a few.

                            The very fact that adults are listening to the song and enjoying shows you don't understand what genre this fits into.

                            THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

                            You're from a different culture. You interpret it as pleasing.

                            That's cool.

                            Some people eat dogs.

                            I'm not down with it, but that's their culture.

                            Just because this song is childish pop-junk in one country, doesn't mean you will or even have to interpret it that way.

                            However, to start making assumptions like it's 'normal' because other animated programs have had similar openings, I have to wonder exactly WHAT genre those openings were and what genre the animation was because I haven't seen something this mismatched since RK and that's not just me.

                            To put it bluntly, even if you've seen 200 or 1000 different animated works, if you don't understand the nuances in the melody, the lyrics, how the song was constructed/sold and the names attached to it, all you're really hearing is a pleasing melody. You don't have experience and thus, ignorance becomes bliss.

                            Nothing wrong with that. It's nice that people would enjoy the song just for a melody, and if you do, that's awesome. In some ways I imagine that some of those of us that do understand it are envious.

                            No matter where you go, there you are.

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                              @Thousand:

                              I honestly can't tell the difference between this opening and any other typical One Piece opening but those are just my ears. A shame that most people don't like it because the animated sequences are like the best ever.

                              The animated sequences are awesome, no doubt there. But sometimes the music just doesn't fit. The new song is one of those that does not fit.

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                                @Kouji:

                                Anyway, I'm just going to drop it. I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. I think the song fits the show in general just fine. The anime always did skew just a little lower than the manga in terms of demographics.

                                If you like the song, hey, thats fine. That's great even. Ignorance is bliss, enjoy it for what you get out of it. We all have our own tastes and enjoy what we enjoy. I like the music of Reel Big Fish, and others may scoff at that. Personal taste is just that, and if you like something, great! Enjoy it for all it's worth and don't let anyone tell you that you're wrong for liking something you like.

                                But if you don't know the history, context or other details behind it like what it is comprable to, don't then proceed to be surprised when you don't understand why others that do, have a problem with it.

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                                  Heso! 🆒

                                  I think that the song as a song is good. Now as the theme for what is happening right now on One Piece it does not fit. It is like if you put say Britney Spears type of cute pop song to the worst parts of say Hellraiser or Dead Man Walking.

                                  I personally find it really in poor taste when they have Hannyabal raise his hand up and go yeah. It makes it look like this is a fun place to be when it is not.

                                  Then I just can't get over the lyrics when Luffy at the end is trying to get to Ace and the lyric say that someone's love is in front of them. Luffy and Ace are supposed to be brothers not well lovers.

                                  I mean this song is so wrong for this part of One Piece that it makes Happy People of Bleach look and sound perfect for what was going on during that arc of Bleach.

                                  I guess that unless they change their minds we are sadly stuck with it. :sad:

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                                    Until, ya know…they change it like they have with every past opening. Personally, I think it's a fine opening (I even downloaded the full version) but I'm willing to bet I'd hate it just as much as Greg if I was Japanese or lived in Japan, because of those translated lyrics…It's easier to like it if you don't know what's being said.

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                                      Are people still complaining about the opening song?

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                                        Heso! 🆒

                                        I am sorry that I came into the topic a bit late. I rather like the song but not as the theme song. Also if you watch the Funimation sub the lyrics are translated so there is no way to miss them. 😁

                                        Anyway I hope maybe they will think to change this one sooner rather than later. But it just maybe around a whole year before there is a new song.

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                                          Actually, this would be a pretty fucking badass anime opening theme.

                                          ILEsEK-JkJI

                                          And its even called "The New World." Nice.

                                          You're absolutely right. It would be epic.

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                                            Hey guys, you need to look at this issue from another perspective. First off, the implementation of this song was more business politics than anything. Second off, Toei knows that the majority of the fans really hate the song given the shut down forum fiasco. With the combination of the two, I think it's highly likely that the next One Piece opening will have the best song ever out of all twelve openings as a compensation by Toei.

                                            You could say "But why would Toei care that they screwed the fans over once?". Well I think Toei does have some care for its fans (they provide it with money after all) not to mention I think they have some sort of pride for their company image. At any rate, I think Opening twelve will nudge them into providing the best opening song ever for Opening 13 and maybe the best opening ever assuming that the animation sequence quality doesn't lower due to the awesome song. But it's been proven with this opening that people care more about the song than the animation sequences so…

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                                              I don't know how this song could be translated into anything that doesn't sound fucking awful.imagined translation mix to follow

                                              Through the hard times and the bad times you
                                              Still love me!!!!
                                              I love you too!
                                              enter One Piece Logo

                                              And so on and so on

                                              And for the "whoo, whoo, whoo, yay!", they can replace it with "3, 2, 1, yay!".

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                                                @robbybedfart:

                                                Actually, this would be a pretty fucking badass anime opening theme.

                                                ILEsEK-JkJI

                                                And its even called "The New World." Nice.

                                                Thats the song Luffy beat Croc to right? Man thats cool!

                                                Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯

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                                                  @Greg:

                                                  This post is so funny I burst out laughing and my coworkers asked what was wrong and I explained that I read a post by dan2026 and they all cracked up because that's what all Japanese people do when they hear that dan2026 wrote a post because all Japanese people have all read so many of dan2026's posts and they know him so well and have grown up knowing him, being surrounded by him and absorbing his culture from their vantage point in the middle of the mountains in Japan so they are the ultimate authority on all things dan2026.

                                                  I honestly don't know what to make of your post, so I'll let it drop.

                                                  I really don't think this opening song is that bad though, I don't even think its the worst opening One Piece has had thus far. That falls to 'Crazy Rainbow' in my book, I can't stand that song.
                                                  You guys should just forget about it, before you know it there will be an new opening song anyway.

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                                                    @Gerchak:

                                                    I don't know how this song could be translated into anything that doesn't sound fucking awful.imagined translation mix to follow

                                                    Through the hard times and the bad times you
                                                    Still love me!!!!
                                                    I love you too!
                                                    enter One Piece Logo

                                                    And so on and so on

                                                    And for the "whoo, whoo, whoo, yay!", they can replace it with "3, 2, 1, yay!".

                                                    As long as I still get my hilarious "yay Nazis" moment, I'll still love it (for all the wrong reasons, I'm aware).

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                                                      I honestly don't know what to make of your post, so I'll let it drop.

                                                      If you read the sentences that followed I'm sure you would.

                                                      No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                                        Overall… the song sucks. Too damn happy for a serious and dark situation.
                                                        It really sucks when it's played showing a dude that's about to get executed.
                                                        I'm sure someone wouldn't be saying, "Fuu! Fuu! Fuu! Yay!" looking at the blue sky for the last time.

                                                        You know what? When I know I'm about to die... I'm going to fucking say, "Fuu! Fuu! Fuu! Yay!".

                                                        That will totally make me a true One Piece fan..

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                                                          I knew this song was bad when I heard it. However, when I heard how much outrage it was receiving from Japan, I knew it was beyond my understanding of just how bad it really was. Since then, I've purposely avoided learning anything more about the song or the band that makes it than I already knew. As Greg said, ignorance is bliss and I'm happy to know when to immerse myself in it.

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                                                            I actually enjoy this song. Of course, this is just me.

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                                                              Overall… the song sucks. Too damn happy for a serious and dark situation.
                                                              It really sucks when it's played showing a dude that's about to get executed.
                                                              I'm sure someone wouldn't be saying, "Fuu! Fuu! Fuu! Yay!" looking at the blue sky for the last time.

                                                              You know what? When I know I'm about to die... I'm going to fucking say, "Fuu! Fuu! Fuu! Yay!".

                                                              That will totally make me a true One Piece fan..

                                                              The CP9 arc was dark too, however, the opening was going "CRAZY CRAZY RAINBOW STAR TWINKLE TWINKLE RAINBOW STAR."

                                                              Honestly I don't see much of a difference here.

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                                                                "CRAZY CRAZY RAINBOW STAR TWINKLE TWINKLE RAINBOW STAR."

                                                                You know…it hadn't really dawned on me until now...

                                                                I've seen a lot of hatred for that opening and, while it's poppy and from a duo that are super commercial (not necessarily bad per se but indeed commercial) it's a decent opening. I actually wasn't aware that there was any hatred for it UNTIL we started this discussion.

                                                                For the life of me I couldn't figure out why and then I just realized....

                                                                YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING O_O

                                                                I've become so accustomed to Engrish in pop music I'm goddamn near immune to it but since majority of anime viewers abroad have a Japanese vocabulary that consists of a couple school objects, family members, curse words and 'aishiteru' and 'kawaii', words from a song mainly in another language that are in your own PROBABLY STAND OUT LIKE THIS.

                                                                I can tell you no one here gives a fuck about crazy or rainbows or twinkles. They just hear Tackey and Tsubasa singing and fun adventuresome lyrics.

                                                                That is precisely what this song is like for those that understand it.

                                                                It's like hearing that same shit non-stop throughout the song.

                                                                So now maybe some of you have a gauge for the level of this monstrosity.

                                                                No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                                                  @Greg:

                                                                  You know…it hadn't really dawned on me until now...

                                                                  I've seen a lot of hatred for that opening and, while it's poppy and from a duo that are super commercial (not necessarily bad per se but indeed commercial) it's a decent opening. I actually wasn't aware that there was any hatred for it UNTIL we started this discussion.

                                                                  For the life of me I couldn't figure out why and then I just realized....

                                                                  YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING O_O

                                                                  Well you definitely have a point, but I know what they say in Kaze wo Sagashite too thanks to FUNi's subs, and while the lyrics aren't very One Piecey and pretty… different, I'd say it's just as unfitting as Crazy Rainbow. I'm not saying I hate both songs; I like both of them. But hey, at least Kaze wo Sagashite is catchier, and has better scenes in the opening rather than the Straw Hats just doing random shit for a whole two minutes and thirty seconds.

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                                                                    @Greg:

                                                                    You know…it hadn't really dawned on me until now...

                                                                    I've seen a lot of hatred for that opening and, while it's poppy and from a duo that are super commercial (not necessarily bad per se but indeed commercial) it's a decent opening. I actually wasn't aware that there was any hatred for it UNTIL we started this discussion.

                                                                    For the life of me I couldn't figure out why and then I just realized....

                                                                    YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING O_O

                                                                    I've become so accustomed to Engrish in pop music I'm goddamn near immune to it but since majority of anime viewers abroad have a Japanese vocabulary that consists of a couple school objects, family members, curse words and 'aishiteru' and 'kawaii', words from a song mainly in another language that are in your own PROBABLY STAND OUT LIKE THIS.

                                                                    I can tell you no one here gives a fuck about crazy or rainbows or twinkles. They just hear Tackey and Tsubasa singing and fun adventuresome lyrics.

                                                                    That is precisely what this song is like for those that understand it.

                                                                    It's like hearing that same shit non-stop throughout the song.

                                                                    So now maybe some of you have a guage for the level of this monstrosity.

                                                                    …But you know, seeing how most people here have seen the translation for all the songs and thus technically know what those mean too, I'm not sure if that's really a valid argument.

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                                                                      The CP9 arc was dark too, however, the opening was going "CRAZY CRAZY RAINBOW STAR TWINKLE TWINKLE RAINBOW STAR."

                                                                      Honestly I don't see much of a difference here.

                                                                      Meh… Water 7 was more dark than Enies Lobby.

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                                                                        Honestly, the thing that annoyed me most about Crazy Rainbow Star wasn't the song as much as it was that I found the animation to be boring. If it had been given animation like the songs before and after it got, I'd probably like it a lot more. The new song might suck but its opening has great animation so I'll likely be able to watch it forever as long as I continue knowing as little about the band as possible.

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                                                                          …But you know, seeing how most people here have seen the translation for all the songs and thus technically know what those mean too, I'm not sure if that's really a valid argument.

                                                                          Oh but it is.

                                                                          See the words written out in your own language and spoken in your own language is quite different from seeing them written out.

                                                                          Because you're simply reading them and you don't understand exactly what's being said and more importantly, how it's being sung, you're free to interpret or read them in your mind's eye.

                                                                          "Oh 'that special someone', they mean Ace! How appropriate! Because Ace is so special to Luffy! Awww!"

                                                                          You miss how that sounds coming out of Yaguchi's mouth and how phrases like that are generally interpreted and/or spread throughout idol-style songs here.

                                                                          And yet, you actually hear Tackey and Tsubasa singing in your language. There's really no room for interpretation there.

                                                                          Interestingly enough they're probably the ones who don't understand the nuances of what they're saying. 😆

                                                                          No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                                                            Crazy Rainbow Star was by far the worst opening and I'm not talking about the lyrics. I never pay attention to those, English or not. It was boring, slow, dull, had lame animation sequences and was all around a crappy song. At least Kaze has a nice, cheery rhythm going with a beat that can get stuck in your head. Crazy Rainbow? YAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNN.

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                                                                              Crazy Rainbow Star was by far the worst opening and I'm not talking about the lyrics. I never pay attention to those, English or not. It was boring, slow, dull, had lame animation sequences and was all around a crappy song. At least Kaze has a nice, cheery rhythm going with a beat that can get stuck in your head. Crazy Rainbow? YAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNN.

                                                                              In terms of animation, Kaze was one of the best, in my opinion. The colourspreads were well placed in the song, and not to forget all the spoilers that were included.

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                                                                                I've always wanted them to use this song ;_; not that annoying cheerful song bleh…

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                                                                                  In terms of animation, Kaze was one of the best, in my opinion. The colourspreads were well placed in the song, and not to forget all the spoilers that were included.

                                                                                  Kaze clearly has one of if not the best animation sequences of all the openings. Which is why it's a shame that not a lot of people like the song.

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                                                                                    I've always wanted them to use this song ;_; not that annoying cheerful song bleh…

                                                                                    Nah, we all know they should've used this..

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                                                                                    His character is dull now anyway, he's a smug little ace, I miss the part 1 Shikamaru, the dunce who was actually smart. That whole thematic world is dead and gone and I don't think Kishi even remembers it.

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                                                                                      ^
                                                                                      Gotta love totally unfitting opening sequences.
                                                                                      Here's my contribution:

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                                                                                        I like the new opening (the animation i mean…) the song is a litle to irrelevant withe the serious events and spoilers.
                                                                                        Hhehe don't know if it is already posted in this thread but here is another try to make op opening beter:

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                                                                                          pYLmMcKZZ_c
                                                                                          "So put your grasses on
                                                                                          Noheeng will be whong
                                                                                          There's no brame, there's no fame
                                                                                          IT'S UP TUU YUUUUU
                                                                                          The first words should be finded
                                                                                          Whatever hose you baaack
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                                                                                          COWN
                                                                                          I COWN GET
                                                                                          A DOG"

                                                                                          (Yes, "finded" is an actual lyric.)
                                                                                          Engrish makes songs akward to native English speakers. Fact.

                                                                                          To this day the only lyrics I know from the Nadia theme are "DON'T FORGET TO TRY IN MIND, something something JE~WEL!"

                                                                                          knowing what the lyrics mean, and actually hearing and processing them in a language you actually understand, are completely different. Especially when the words are nonsensical and make no sense one in their actual language. You've read the lyrics, so you know what they mean at some level, but can you sing along to them like you can to a Beatles tune?

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                                                                                            At the end of the day they still haven't managed to better the fifth opening, Kokoro no Chizu, in my eyes.
                                                                                            Even while only understanding maybe only 50% of the lyrics, both the music, the upbeat tone, the fast pace, everything about that song was perfect. The animation wasn't half bad either.

                                                                                            Also, that Berserk opening is god-awful, I can't imagine a more inappropriate opening for something like Berserk.
                                                                                            Black Lagoon is another one with an completely English opening song, but it is sung in such a way that emphasis on all the words is wrong.
                                                                                            It sounds bizarre to say the least, perhaps it is intentional.

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                                                                                              The Berserk opening is GREAT. It has an incredibly catchy beat and awesome bass-tone and guitar riffs. It dooesn't sound like most other Japanese pop songs, so it sets it apart into the grittier world that is Berserk. It has good, albeit low budget, visuals that give an idea of the badassery to unfold. And you can't even tell until you've heard it for the fifth or sixth time that they're speaking in English, and I imagine it just gives it flavor to the Japanese audiences, who then have to read subtitles to understand what is being said.

                                                                                              And since you can't understand or comprehend the lyrics, even if you're a native English speaker, all you get out of it is the pure music to the visuals, which is great. One of my favorites.

                                                                                              The Berserk opening is awesome.

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                                                                                                The Berserk opening is GREAT. It has an incredibly catchy beat and awesome bass-tone and guitar riffs. It dooesn't sound like most other Japanese pop songs, so it sets it apart into the grittier world that is Berserk. It has good, albeit low budget, visuals that give an idea of the badassery to unfold. And you can't even tell until you've heard it for the fifth or sixth time that they're speaking in English, and I imagine it just gives it flavor to the Japanese audiences, who then have to read subtitles to understand what is being said.

                                                                                                Its certainly different from other openings, i'll give you that. But it doesn't really give of the right feeling, at least not to me.

                                                                                                Reading the manga though I always imagined Berserk with either some sort of fast paced heavy metal music, after all the world of Bersek is not that far removed from the bizarre images on a heavy metal album cover.
                                                                                                Or perhaps a chilling elegy of some sort, something to give you a sense of foreboding and creeping dread of what is to come.

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                                                                                                  Reading the manga though I always imagined Berserk with either some sort of fast paced heavy metal music, after all the world of Bersek is not that far removed from the bizarre images on a heavy metal album cover.
                                                                                                  Or perhaps a chilling elegy of some sort, something to give you a sense of foreboding and creeping dread of what is to come.

                                                                                                  Well thats why the actual anime itself has music by Susumu Hirasawa. That stuff DOES give the otherworldy feel that the actual show calls for, much more than the actual opening does.

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                                                                                                    Oh but it is.

                                                                                                    See the words written out in your own language and spoken in your own language is quite different from seeing them written out.

                                                                                                    Because you're simply reading them and you don't understand exactly what's being said and more importantly, how it's being sung, you're free to interpret or read them in your mind's eye.

                                                                                                    Well either way, whether I know what they're saying or not, I still like Kaze wo Sagashite. It's really catchy and nice.

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                                                                                                    And yet, you actually hear Tackey and Tsubasa singing in your language. There's really no 😆room for interpretation there.

                                                                                                    Yeah… only in the chorus. That doesn't make the rest of the song any different in my opinion.

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                                                                                                      lol @ Robby's previous edit reason

                                                                                                      I too, only watch the "awesome" parts of the One Piece anime that I've saw in the manga which made me thing, "I wonder how they'll animate that?!"

                                                                                                      But, like I said before… the song is too damn happy for the current Impel Down arc.
                                                                                                      Now, if I were to judge the animation of the intro? It's amazing. It's beautiful. I love it, and they did a great job with the colorspreads and the Marineford "spoiler of doom" sequences... but the song... that ____ing song...

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                                                                                                        Well either way, whether I know what they're saying or not, I still like Kaze wo Sagashite. It's really catchy and nice.

                                                                                                        Neither I or anyone with common sense suggested you shouldn't.

                                                                                                        Yeah… only in the chorus. That doesn't make the rest of the song any different in my opinion.

                                                                                                        And yet it's what you posted right away regarding the song as if insulting it. =I

                                                                                                        No matter where you go, there you are.

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