New rebels trailer
Star Wars Universe - Resurrection F
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New rebels trailer
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Even more Clone Wars season 6 than we already were!
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Mild spoiler from a deleted scene involving Maz Kanata.
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/star-wars-force-awakens-deleted-124526915.html
! Maz Kanata knows how to use the force. But it's a deleted scene so does that count? Sure it does. Especially when the special edition DVD comes out with the deleted scenes and extended version. This isn't all that surprising either seeing as how she was so knowledgeable about the force and her display of premonition like powers.
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! I don't think deleted scenes count as canon though, otherwise Shaak Ti would be considered as dead since there's a revenge of the sith deleted scene where grievous kills her, and from what I recall she's supposed to live beyond that.
! So if anything, I think they removing that scene is specifically to keep Maz from being a force-wielder. Probably. -
! The Visual Dictionary says she's force sensitive, so that's still canon.
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That also could just be a thing they removed from the movie because they thought they could find a better, more dramatic way to include it in the movies later.
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That green crossguard lightsaber tho…
Rebels trailers are always good quality even when the episodes aren't, but this upcoming batch of episodes seem very interesting
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So, this was pretty funny.
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I guess considering a deleted scene canon might be the same as to say Han didn't shot first .
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I guess considering a deleted scene canon might be the same as to say Han didn't shot first .
Not necessarily. Something that is just cut for time but acknowledged as having happened in print is a bit different then taking something that was shown and accepted in the film for decades and then altered later.
Also, that Kylo Ren SNL skit is canon, right?
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The only good thing about Saturday's SNL episode
I dunno. Weekend update was pretty funny. Until Vanessa Bayer showed up as another of her annoying child characters…
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I dunno. Weekend update was pretty funny. Until Vanessa Bayer showed up as another of her annoying child characters…
hey i like the bar mitzvah comedian boy!….unless what she was doing was still doing that same one lol (SNL loves beating dead horses)
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@Monkey:
hey i like the bar mitzvah comedian boy!….unless what she was doing was still doing that same one lol (SNL loves beating dead horses)
That kid character is annoying to me as well. The annoying child actor kid she plays is basically the same, but not Jewish…
Anywho. Yes the Undercover Boss Sketch was quite good. Although it was weird seeing the full sketch then seeing it in the show and a chunk was missing.
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Episode 8 has been pushed back to December 2017. So between episode 7, ROgue One, and now that… seems like Disney/Lucasfilm has decided that December is the Star Wars month now rather than May. Which is fine, winter is usually a slower time for mvies and we've had Harry Potter and Hobbit films to fill in that space of time for the last decade.
This is mostly interesting because that'll be putting it right next to Avatar 2... which has to be bad for everyone. Are they playing the Cap 3 vs BvS move again, see who blinks first? Or do they know something we don't about Avatar 2 not making that timetable?
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Aw, that's a shame. Waiting the extra 7 months will suck, but at least there's other content that'll be coming out in the meantime.
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I'm completely in favor of the movie getting as much time as possible especially if its due to the rumored rewrites to focus on the newly popular characters (Hi there, Poe).
I missed out on the previous Clone Wars show discussion, but having just seen it added to danish netlfix, I'm curious: What is the core appeal of the show? It seems to be held in high esteem, but is it character development, humor, action, or extended storylines that're the appeal? I've always kinda dismissed it as superfluous, mostly because of its place in the timeline… and because movies gave me no desire to explore the further adventures of allegedly-friends Anakin and Obi Wan.
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@Daz:
I'm curious: What is the core appeal of the show? It seems to be held in high esteem, but is it character development, humor, action, or extended storylines that're the appeal? I've always kinda dismissed it as superfluous, mostly because of its place in the timeline… and because movies gave me no desire to explore the further adventures of allegedly-friends Anakin and Obi Wan.
Well, Anakin and Obi-Wan actually are friends in the show. ANd you can actually see Anakin as the guy that was talked about in episode 4.
But yeah, basically all of the above. Its the whole thing done right, really. It does the action and story and character stuff all pretty decently. Its main problem really is that its the midquel, so you know nothing super significant will happen to any of the big names, but it does everything pretty well in a proper Star Warsey fashion.
Though the first season is pretty weak overall and the Hutts are generally way too cartoonish. And Grevious kind of sucks, he never lives up to how amazing he was in the Tartovsky version.
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And Grevious kind of sucks, he never lives up to how amazing he was in the Tartovsky version.
I see that as a point in the later show's favor really; the Tartovsky version of Grievous and the Jedi in general is so over-the-top that it's hard to take it seriously.
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I'll just leave this here.
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I'll just leave this here.
"This video is private". :/
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btw, file this firmly under the rumor pile, but I'd love it to be true. http://makingstarwars.net/2016/01/rumor-the-largest-cameo-in-star-wars-rebels-chistory/
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It'd make sense as that's pretty much the one expanded universe character anyone really cares about.
And Mara Jade, but mostly cause she's Luke's wife. Which probably no longer fits as well as it might have.
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Now work in HK-47 and Revan cameos and they've officially rescued everything worth keeping from the old EU.
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The Old Republic in general is one of the parts of EU that can fit in easily due to the fact that it could practically be an alternate universe considering how far in the past it takes place.
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Its interesting… there were nearly 40 years of EU material between the comic books and novels and video games and random cartoons along the way.. hundreds if not thousands of stories, complete with an ongoing continuity...
And very, very little of it is anything anyone is really upset about losing. Just a couple characters from one novel series from 20 years ago, and one video game, really.
And that's like... it.
Even Clone Wars which is good and actually still canon doesn't add all that much to things aside from Asoka. (But it was pretty ham-stringed by the timeframe it was placed in.) You'd think there'd be a little more along the way that made an impact and resonated with people.
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It helps that a lot of the more well-liked aspects of the old EU (The Old Republic games, Darth Bane) took place long, long before the Phantom Menace and don't really affect anything recent besides the Jedi-Sith relationship.
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So, question about that Clone Wars series that I've been hearing I should check out… How does the movie relate to it? I heard it was basically just a few episodes of the show cobbled together but... is that like, literally the case? Like I could just skip the movie and still see all the content from it in the TV-series, or is it more like, the movie is technically the first episode of the show and what is labeled as episode 1 is really episode 2?
...Also is the movie actually any good? I mean it seems to have gotten pretty terrible reviews at the time of its release anyway.
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@Vegard:
So, question about that Clone Wars series that I've been hearing I should check out… How does the movie relate to it? I heard it was basically just a few episodes of the show cobbled together but... is that like, literally the case? Like I could just skip the movie and still see all the content from it in the TV-series, or is it more like, the movie is technically the first episode of the show and what is labeled as episode 1 is really episode 2?
...Also is the movie actually any good? I mean it seems to have gotten pretty terrible reviews at the time of its release anyway.
The movie is what you'd call the first two-episodes of the show. The tv series continues directly from that. The later seasons benefited from better, continuing story arcs. The first season is just a string of random days in the war. The movie is Anakin getting a padawan with a random conflict in the background.
While I wouldn't say the movie is good, just as I wouldn't say the first season of Clone Wars is good, I think the movie got treated somewhat harsher because it is a movie. If they reviewed it as a tv episode it would have rotten a better rating.
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The movie is what you'd call the first two-episodes of the show. The tv series continues directly from that. The later seasons benefited from better, continuing story arcs. The first season is just a string of random days in the war. The movie is Anakin getting a padawan with a random conflict in the background.
While I wouldn't say the movie is good, just as I wouldn't say the first season of Clone Wars is good, I think the movie got treated somewhat harsher because it is a movie. If they reviewed it as a tv episode it would have rotten a better rating.
I agree…but to be honest, I remember close to nothing about the movie at this point. I don't think it's necessary to watch it, either.
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Its interesting… there were nearly 40 years of EU material between the comic books and novels and video games and random cartoons along the way.. hundreds if not thousands of stories, complete with an ongoing continuity...
And very, very little of it is anything anyone is really upset about losing. Just a couple characters from one novel series from 20 years ago, and one video game, really.
And that's like... it.
My exposure to the EU is limited to New Jedi Order, tangential novels (Rogue Planet, Outbound flight) and the Thrawn novels, but I don't thats entirely fair. Theres a lot of superweapons (DARKSABER! GALAXY GUN!), comics about Palpatine returning as a young clone and endless Imperial warlords, but theres also a lot of great characters and cool concepts. Even if the execution occasionally faltered it really did feel like an Expanded universe - the heroes didn't have to fight Imperials with death stars, they could also fight zealous invaders with bio-weapons, totally unlike anything seen in the movies, eventually culminating with an alliance with the Imperial Remnant. Characters could grow from what you'd seen on screen, with Leia learning herself some force skills, Luke becoming a mentor for the new Jedi generation and so on, Rogue Squadron becoming actual characters etc. New cool races, planets, cultures…even a complete philosophical reassesment of the Force itself in Traitor, even if it got horribly retconned later. You can have a beat where Han Solos son is forced to leave Chewbacca behind to die, and then spend time exploring what this means for Hans relationship to his son.
So yeah, I'll defend the merits of the EU; it was capable of making it feel like there was more to Star Wars than rebels vs Empire, family members gone bad and Doomsday weapons.
...I just guess its major problem was when it made it seem there was nothing more to Star Wars than rebels vs Empire, family members gone bad and Doomsday weapons.
Also, Tim Curry is Darth Sidious in the Clone Wars Cartoon? Holy smokes, why did no one tell me this
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Yeah, after Endor the EU forced Han, Leia and Luke into constant struggles with outside forces, emperor clones, new imperial generals, old imperial generals, Thrawns and superweapons. Witnessing destroyed worlds and billions of civilian casualties for years and years was kinda frustrating to read all the time.
So I'm glad that, according to the new canon, one year after Endor the battle of Jakku lead to some sort of none aggression treaty giving our heroes a 20 year period of peace. Made their victory over the dark side way more rewarding.
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@Daz:
Also, Tim Curry is Darth Sidious in the Clone Wars Cartoon? Holy smokes, why did no one tell me this
He wasn't until much later in the show's run, after Ian Abercrombie died.
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The movie is what you'd call the first two-episodes of the show. The tv series continues directly from that. The later seasons benefited from better, continuing story arcs. The first season is just a string of random days in the war. The movie is Anakin getting a padawan with a random conflict in the background.
While I wouldn't say the movie is good, just as I wouldn't say the first season of Clone Wars is good, I think the movie got treated somewhat harsher because it is a movie. If they reviewed it as a tv episode it would have rotten a better rating.
The movie is what was originally supposed to be the first four episodes of the series. I don't have any real problems with it, but it's definitely better to watch it near the beginning. I didn't get around to watching it until I watched all the seasons, and the regression to the old animation style was painful to sit through.
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@Daz:
My exposure to the EU is limited to New Jedi Order, tangential novels (Rogue Planet, Outbound flight) and the Thrawn novels, but I don't thats entirely fair. Theres a lot of superweapons (DARKSABER! GALAXY GUN!), comics about Palpatine returning as a young clone and endless Imperial warlords, but theres also a lot of great characters and cool concepts. Even if the execution occasionally faltered it really did feel like an Expanded universe - the heroes didn't have to fight Imperials with death stars, they could also fight zealous invaders with bio-weapons, totally unlike anything seen in the movies, eventually culminating with an alliance with the Imperial Remnant. Characters could grow from what you'd seen on screen, with Leia learning herself some force skills, Luke becoming a mentor for the new Jedi generation and so on, Rogue Squadron becoming actual characters etc. New cool races, planets, cultures…even a complete philosophical reassesment of the Force itself in Traitor, even if it got horribly retconned later. You can have a beat where Han Solos son is forced to leave Chewbacca behind to die, and then spend time exploring what this means for Hans relationship to his son.
So yeah, I'll defend the merits of the EU; it was capable of making it feel like there was more to Star Wars than rebels vs Empire, family members gone bad and Doomsday weapons.
...I just guess its major problem was when it made it seem there was nothing more to Star Wars than rebels vs Empire, family members gone bad and Doomsday weapons.
Also, Tim Curry is Darth Sidious in the Clone Wars Cartoon? Holy smokes, why did no one tell me this
I feel like honestly most of the books were crap at the end of the day.
But I'll concede some of the comics were kind of fun and inventive. Even ones that are reeaaaallly cheesy in retrospect like Dark Empire. Cheesy and kind of lame yes, but also kind of insane in a fascinating way.And this is still my shit. Was actually even better when I read it years later and realized it was sort of constantly keeping the gonzo/dark humor dial turned up.
Also Shadows of the Empire was always good, though I'm not sure if that's EU or not exactly. Kind of neither canon nor EU.
My biggest beef with the EU, and probably my biggest disagreement with you though is I feel the opposite. It didn't expand the universe…it contracted it. By so many of the plots and stories forcing the camera on every single character and element to be mentioned or walk by in the movies. And suddenly the vast sense of universe beyond the screen vanished. Everything was explained, everyone had a plot. And most of the time those plots were stupid and Mary-Sueish. With everyone brushing elbows with the main cast, or being a secret rebel spy, or had Jedi powers or even dumber shit like IG-88 having other versions with one being installed in the second death star...geeesh.
The best stories were ones that either tastefully handled the main cast, or handled side things without trying to make them important. Like that Boba Fett comic up there? No big plot. No main cast. Just Boba Fett handling some biz for Jabba's nephew and busting pirates and shit.
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Episode 8 has begun. And Benicio Del Toro, Laura Dern, and Kelly Marie Tran are joining the Episode 8 cast
I'm very curious about Del Toro's role
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What the fuck did I just see/read?
Seriously, this is supposed to be an issue of technobabble now?! Instead of the empire being a bunch of overconfident and overbearing smugs.
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Boyega asked EA about Battlefront
EA at it's finest
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Boyega, we feel your pain.
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Ho-shit, can't wait.
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Ho-shit, can't wait.
This is going to be brutal, I liked TFA but it was also bit cheesy…Plinkett is going to have no mercy....
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I dunno. He was pretty easy on Abram's Star Trek, and the half in the bag review was overall positive.
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And he even said in his review of Abrams's Star Trek that he would have made a much better director for Star Wars than Lucas would be.
"In fact J.J. Abrams should have directed the prequels, and George Lucas should have directed audiences to their seats in the cinemas!"So I'm not expecting this movie to be the worst thing since his son. (MAN does that guy go too far with his jokes sometimes…)
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@Vegard:
And he even said in his review of Abrams's Star Trek that he would have made a much better director for Star Wars than Lucas would be.
"In fact J.J. Abrams should have directed the prequels, and George Lucas should have directed audiences to their seats in the cinemas!"Well considering how overall awkward prequels turned out scene wise its not that much of an compliment to announce someone more worthy director than Lucas.
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I expect there will be quite a few pot shots at the content, but nowhere near prequels. A large part of rant was addressed at characters and their interactions. Both of which were pretty decent this time around.
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Episode 8 is going to be amazing
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As long as its not a complete copy of Empire Strikes Back …
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Great finale for Rebels. Filoni has some interesting things to say about it, but don't read the article before watching it, it's very spoilerly. http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-producer-of-star-wars-rebels-answers-your-burning-q-1768048083