http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/525/02/
O.O I reread it … its CRIMINAL.... NOT CRIMINALS... unless its a mistranslation/error... Ace is definitely referring to one person.
no..he said both luffy and himself…have the blood of a global scale criminal...the sense does not change
no..he said both luffy and himself…have the blood of a global scale criminal...the sense does not change
OH….. Hmmm I see... ok
I wouldn't call it anything other than a question until you can get a definitive answer from a serious translator like Greg, DMAL, Demon Rin, someone of their experience with the language.
O.O I was referring to Mihawk's and Hancock's size.
It's hard to say, they are on the front raw.
O.O I was referring to Mihawk's and Hancock's size.
Oh, yeah I suppose you could, but it's still not all that surprising with Oda. He wanted them to all be fairly large and detailed in his spread, so he had to even out their sizes a bit. That's probably all there is to it.
Oda likes to put these guys in different perspectives to dramatic purposes
There's no real plural form in Japanese, so in the original it's ambigiuous whether Ace is talking about a single criminal or two. Though the fact that he says a vague thing like "world-class criminal(s)" and not something more specific like "the world's most wanted man" (or whatever Dragon's title was) makes me think he's talking about two different people, and that Oda made the line intentionally ambiguous.
Didn't Greg's site say that Luffy and Ace weren't really blood brothers?
i see..i had a look…but since he declared he stopped...last was the chapter 539....and now the last one is 545
I like how Kizaru and Akainu have their legs crossed in the exact same way, while Aokiji has his spread out. It shows the difference between him and the other two.
That marine looks incredibly short compared to the Shichibukai. :'D And Hancock and Mihawk look like giants. pfft.
The Admiral spread looks awesome! I love how Aokiji and Akainu have completely different outfits on.
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That marine looks incredibly short compared to the Shichibukai. :'D And Hancock and Mihawk look like giants. pfft.
The Admiral spread looks awesome! I love how Aokiji and Akainu have completely different outfits on.
also,the distance between the chairs is bigger in some other panel.maybe they move the chairs cos they hate each other?
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Pandaman in the last page
Yeah, that's kind of strange, Hancock always seemed rather large, but Mihawk has been normal size in all of his appearances before now.
Anyway, judging from Ace's reaction throughout the explanation, I'd say he already knew about it. I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of this though. What I'm really curious about is why the Marines even cared about Roger's son. A baby can't be guilty and they couldn't have known he'd grow up to be a dangerous pirate. Seems kinda ridonculous to me.
I'm still saying that Oda has never been consistant with sizes. He just draws stuff to fill the page.
I think its another problem with angle like we had back at Impel Down. We are actually looking really close at Mihawk and Hancock and the Marine and the other 3 shichibukai are actually in the distance, its just the angle and the way they are lined up makes it seem like they are closer to equal in size. Plus Hancock is actually sitting down if you look at it closer, she should be even taller than she is next Mihawk, she is sitting on her companion snake ever so slightly.
Does Mr. Sakazuki have a floral patter tattoo under his suit?
woohoooo…Giant Woman....now how can you satisfy her????!!
Go Luffy
Thanks for the RAw, can't wait for it to be translated!
I'm still saying that Oda has never been consistant with sizes. He just draws stuff to fill the page.
Agrees, I hate the fact that he doesn't keep characters sizes consistent. Hancock and Mihawk were regular size humans, now their freakin' giants!
Yeah, that's kind of strange, Hancock always seemed rather large, but Mihawk has been normal size in all of his appearances before now.
Anyway, judging from Ace's reaction throughout the explanation, I'd say he already knew about it. I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of this though. What I'm really curious about is why the Marines even cared about Roger's son. A baby can't be guilty and they couldn't have known he'd grow up to be a dangerous pirate. Seems kinda ridonculous to me.
Well you know how corrupted and paranoid they are.
Not so much in our society now, but for centuries the general belief was children would follow in the footsteps of their parents. It seems kind of silly seeing how Ace's parents are dead and he was raised by Garp, and he still became a pirate. Oda could possibly be applying this logic.
I really want to know more about Rouge. I think she is much much more then some random lover Roger knocked up.
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that reminds me some futurama episode..
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I really want to know more about Rouge. I think she is much much more then some random lover Roger knocked up.
She probably isn't, if she's a D. Which brings up the fact that both of Ace's parents are Ds. I guess there's a lot of in-breeding going on among them.
Wow Oda just doesn't disappoint. With this reveal I can finally begin to wrap my head around some theories as to what could possibly happen to the Whitebeard pirates should Whitebeard die. Especially if one or some of Luffy's escapees bear some responsibility toward his death.
Oda could actually have Luffy and Ace meet at the Pirate Summit as enemies.
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very nice, thank you dofla
Thanks for the raw! ^_^
Oda could actually have Luffy and Ace meet at the Pirate Summit as enemies.
Oh yeah I can't wait for that. Luffy vs Jinbei and Ace.
translation by cnet
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It appears that I've dodged a bullet.
Oda could actually have Luffy and Ace meet at the Pirate Summit as enemies.
What's the Pirate Summit?
Yeah, that's kind of strange, Hancock always seemed rather large, but Mihawk has been normal size in all of his appearances before now.
Anyway, judging from Ace's reaction throughout the explanation, I'd say he already knew about it. I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of this though. What I'm really curious about is why the Marines even cared about Roger's son. A baby can't be guilty and they couldn't have known he'd grow up to be a dangerous pirate. Seems kinda ridonculous to me.
More or less the same reason they cared about a certain eight year old. She was connected to someone who was, to them, extremely dangerous. Plus by all indications (primarily Franky's flashback and Tom) it seems the government made it a point to go after anyone even remotely connected to Roger, no matter how indirectly. This could be a result of Roger ensuring that his crew wasn't executed with him. The Marines wanted/needed to feel they got everyone they could.
I agree with Arei. Being the child of a criminal certainly seems to carry a particular stigma in the One Piece world. Nico Olvia was worried about Robin suffering because of this. Ace assured Garp that he and Luffy could never be Marines because of their bloodlines. Even the Franky Family thought Franky a fine choice for pirate in part because of his father being one.
What I'm really curious about is why the Marines even cared about Roger's son. A baby can't be guilty and they couldn't have known he'd grow up to be a dangerous pirate. Seems kinda ridonculous to me.
Have you ever read Batman? If not, look up Bane's past.
Well Robin was an archaeologist who they knew could read the runes so they actually had a reason to go after her. I guess in Ace's case we can chalk it up to serious paranoia, but it still confuses me.
What's the Pirate Summit?
Ace spoke of it to Luffy when they first parted ways in Alabasta. It's not really a place, but I guess it is more a metaphor of where the greatest pirates will meet in the New World.
Still though, Olvia refused to acknowledge Robin as her child for fear that the Marines would kill her. That should tell you something. It was only after Robin admitted to being able to read the poneglyphs that Olvia gave in.
I like the fact that Oda drew the Shichibukai in superhuman size, thus showing their strength and importance.
After reading cnet's translation I feel a lot better. Once the spoiler thread got up to around 9 million replies, I started worrying that some random mistake in the trans I put up was going to haunt me forever.
and thats the only reason why oda drew them that big…
It has nothing to do with "they got bigger" or something else..
Just pure Power & Might above the other average marines
Did you see the site? Is it new or has it always existed?
Did you see the site? Is it new or has it always existed?
The One Piece information website? That's new. Oda was talking about its launch in the last SBS.
Rouge…. I think she is Nyon's daughter, born after leaving AL..... the flower on the hair kind of resembles Nyon's fashion.
well the flower tradition is not only limited to that : amazon lily - Portgas d rouge - gloriosa (nyon's real/other name)… either oda is playing tricks on us or rouge was possibly really the previous amazon empress and/or nyon's daughter; we might get some hints through hancock's reaction, if there's going to be any, in the next chapter
The One Piece information website? That's new. Oda was talking about it's launch in the last SBS.
It's great! It has even some fully colored chapters!
hey, i don't know if anyone have said this or not….......... makes sense to me that shanks used to visit luffy's hometown, he was there to look out for ace? then happen to get along with luffy, then he was worry about ace facing blackbeard aswell......... hrmmm just random thoughts lol
hey, i don't know if anyone have said this or not….......... makes sense to me that shanks used to visit luffy's hometown, he was there to look out for ace? then happen to get along with luffy, then he was worry about ace facing blackbeard aswell......... hrmmm just random thoughts lol
Thank you! I was trying to say that in the spoiler thread, but it got drowned out by 80 pages of "Garp is Roger's father" and "20 months of pregnancy is stupid!"
ahaha you did, sweet…........ yeah i post once in the spoiler thread and i stayed away from it, everyone just talking back and forward about the same thing
Wow, so Luffy and Ace aren't biological brothers. Roger is Ace's father and Dragon is Luffy's.
Oda set up Ace and Garp's conversation in chapters 523-525 to make it seem like Dragon was Ace's father. Whenever Ace addressed Garp, he called him "jiji" which could mean grandfather, but it can also just mean "old man". And on page 2 of chapter 525 (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/525/02/), Ace says that both Luffy and him have the blood of a global scale criminal flowing through their veins…Which is true, only he's referring to two different global scale criminals.
i think the view is whats causing the shichibukai to look huge..seem its on a upwards angle..slight angle..making everyone looks big,IMO
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