Next Crew Member Speculation (Ver 3.0)

GaaraofTheDesert

Next crew member is Croc, he will get a hair cut first by Mihawk like Mitsui in Slam Dunk.

xAcEx

I don't think we will se a shichibukai join. Instead I think we will see a character like Hatchan or Inazuma. I think if a shichibukai were to join he/she would maybe overshadow Luffy as being the captain. Not in the sense that he/she would be stronger but that he/she is more well known than Luffy at this point. Yes Luffy is making quite a name for himself but I still think that he has a little way to go until he's at the level of the upper tier shichibukai (Dof, BB, Jinbei). But who knows I could be completely wrong (wouldn't be the first time I was wrong about One Piece haha). I have even started to think that a former BW officer may join like Mr. 1 or Mr. 2 if he still is alive.

jlo81

hatchan? inazuma? oh great.. lets recruit more weak members so that the strawhats will continue to get beaten by pacifistas and admirals.

Vaayu

@RomanceDawn:

Exaggerated? Krieg? Mihawk? At that time in the story many of those East Blue people had only seen strength the likes of Don Krieg. And Luffy handled him pretty easily during the fight, he was in no way shown to be over powered and then we get to reality. Mihawk has been consistant since day one, there were no exaggerations about Zoro losing, in east blue Zoro was just a big fish in a small pond, and got a rightful beating.

Yes, exaggerated when they were introduced. Not during their fights, but when they were first introduced they were shown to be like mighty God like beings who are undefeatable. Similar to Robin, Enel, CP9… its part of the storytelling. Heck, when Robin first joined I thought she would be overpowered and completely dominate the other members, but thats hardly the case.

@RomanceDawn:

Everything besides kicking little animals has been shown to be serious business with Boa. It maybe funny why she goes after people like smoker, but it has been made very clear that she is a War Lord for a reason, and very powerful at that.

Now all of them as strong as Boa? Come on man, a group of 9 each as powerful as War Lord? By the end of the series, yeah I could see it, but now? When there are even fodder who live in the New World who pass out from Luffy's Haki? Absolutely not neccesary, when you consider the abilities of the New World pirates shown thus far. There is still lots of room to grow, and no way will they be able to destroy pacifista's like she did the moment they get out of Fish Man Island.

I don't see how temporarily getting in the way of people in comedic situations and taking care of a few machines which don't fight back shows her to be extremely powerful. If anything, imho, her strength is equal or slightly more than Crocodile and Moria.

@RomanceDawn:

Reminds me of the first half of the grand line. It's predicted the moment they get there, everything is going to be an epic struggle. Zoro, Luffy, and Sanji, kicked butt like crazy all the way to Alabasta. It it will probably be similar in the NW. I still don't understand how people think every opponent they face is going to be another Lucci or Croc.

I agree partly with what you are saying and it is probably the most likely scenario. But still there are a couple of things to consider:

After the end of this war, extremely powerful people are going to be after Luffy without respite whether he likes it or not. The admirals, other yonkou, unknown New World horrors. Currently, except Luffy, Zoro and to some extent Sanji, none of the crew can even help out against such enemies.

You should also consider the fact that warlords like Crocodile and Moria have failed in the New World. Even Jinbei was unable to protect Fishman Island by himself. Judging by this, Warlord level strength should be the minimum requirement for the strawhats to compete there.

RomanceDawn

I will say this, Croc and Moria both failed against the highest of high tiers. Emperors Kaidou and White Beard. Though Moria tied with Kaidou but lost his crew. So I guess that means Boa is on par with one of the Emperors, according to your logic if she is on Moria's level. Which I wouldn't be surprised buy. Mihawk is too right, when compared to Shanks?

War Lord level for the entire crew is end of the series type stuff. Just look at even the NW captians in this War, not a one of them has made any special difference yet or shown that the SH are so underpowered that they wouldn't be able to hold their own against them.

To think that each SH should be able to contend on an equal level with any War Lord by the time they set in the NW is laughable. I mean really how much farther will they be able to grow after that? Especialy if the story is only half way through. Now Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro are different stories. I do believe Luffy is War Lord level and Zoro and Sanji are just a notch or 2 below him, but the fact is they don't have the experience needed to be truely formidable like a War Lord.

xAcEx

@jlo81:

hatchan? inazuma? oh great.. lets recruit more weak members so that the strawhats will continue to get beaten by pacifistas and admirals.

Ok well this is how I see the next crew member fitting in

If I were to rank the crew members in regards to fighting order
1. Luffy
2. Zoro
3. Sanji
4. Franky
5. Robin
6. Brook
7. Chooper
8. Nami
9. Usopp

I think that whoever joins next will be right around Sanji and Franky as far as fighting skills are concerned. I don't think Oda will add some hugely powerful character (shichibukai), rather I think he will add someone who is a moderately strong character that supports the rest of the crew well. Imo id rather him focus fighting wise on the already present members such as Sanji and Zoro.

madmanricky

I see some one on par to the rest of the strawhats at the point of there return not someone that was on par with them when they first started since they don't have a lot of time to improve and grow but i also don't see someone that could easily take a top tier fighter with ease since that is always left for luffy

flandrian15

next crewmember will be crocodile for sure, he is even protecting luffy after his Haki-burst so perhaps he wants to follow Luffy now. It will be bad for Vivi when she finds out but who cares about her anyway and that way there will be a strong, but not overpowered, new crewmember who happens to be a former shichibukai. This will only make the strawhat name stand out even more although that is not really nescessary seeing the marines suddenly stopped looking at Luffy as a rookie. That makes me think of what fame Luffy might get throughout the OPverse if he were to succeed in saving Ace. The broadcast stopped but there are 1000ths of pirates there aren't there? They will probably spread the word

mr.french

Crocodile doesn't seem to have a dream anymore, and if he does, it collides directly with Luffy's (to become Pirate King). Now, technically he could change his mind once this battle is over after witnessing how amazing Luffy has become, but I think he needs to come up with his own dream to even be considered as a candidate. I mean, Jimbei is more likely to become a crew-member at this point over Crocodile, because his dream is surrounded relatively around protecting Fishmen, and stopping this fight. And he hates pirates, but he holds WB as an exception, and I can imagine he would do the same for Luffy as he's not your average pirate.

Chopper Madness

@mr.french:

Crocodile doesn't seem to have a dream anymore, and if he does, it collides directly with Luffy's (to become Pirate King). Now, technically he could change his mind once this battle is over after witnessing how amazing Luffy has become, but I think he needs to come up with his own dream to even be considered as a candidate. I mean, Jimbei is more likely to become a crew-member at this point over Crocodile, because his dream is surrounded relatively around protecting Fishmen, and stopping this fight. And he hates pirates, but he holds WB as an exception, and I can imagine he would do the same for Luffy as he's not your average pirate.

in my opinion croc doesnt have a chance (goin he way of vegeta is the only exception) and i dont even know how u could do that while being apart of the same crew

jimbei has a shot but there would be issues with FI that would have to be resolved first

Flagg1982

Man croc will never join the strawhats.

Woman croc ? Maybe.

wintergt

megalomaniacs like Crocodile or Buggy don't join other people's crews. Please stop discussing either as a possibility. That being said, one of them might sail with Luffy to the NW, but not as a new ~~nakama~~ crewmate.

TräshCät

@wintergt:

megalomaniacs like Crocodile or Buggy don't join other people's crews. Please stop discussing either as a possibility. That being said, one of them might sail with Luffy to the NW, but not as a new ~~nakama~~ crewmate.

quoted for truth ^^

buggy didn't even want to join shanks … ^^'' i don't see why he would want to join luffys crew now.

Kokolores

@wintergt:

megalomaniacs like Crocodile or Buggy don't join other people's crews. Please stop discussing either as a possibility. That being said, one of them might sail with Luffy to the NW, but not as a new ~~nakama~~ crewmate.

Indeed they do not. Both Croco and Buggy have their own ambitions and see Luffy as their rival there's no way they would join. As for Jimbei I don't think he fits into the crew. His personality is just too sober for the SH. Also we haven't heard anything about any special dream/ambition of his so far. And having a dream is essential for becoming a SH.

Zik

@Kokolores:

Indeed they do not. Both Croco and Buggy have their own ambitions and see Luffy as their rival there's no way they would join. As for Jimbei I don't think he fits into the crew. His personality is just too sober for the SH. Also we haven't heard anything about any special dream/ambition of his so far. And having a dream is essential for becoming a SH.

Yes we have. It's to die for WB and/or spend his life paying WB back for protecting an island he could not despite his shichi position.

brennen.exe

@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:

Yes we have. It's to die for WB and/or spend his life paying WB back for protecting an island he could not despite his shichi position.

Haha, no, not it is not. Tell me, do you remember anything about Sanji before he joined? What were his feelings for Zeff? What were his responses to Luffy's request? How about Chopper? Nami? Franky…? None of these people had purpose, goals, or desires prior to their joining. None of them refused directly or indirectly to join Luffy at first. Except they did, and they did...

Zik

@brennen.exe:

Haha, no, not it is not. Tell me, do you remember anything about Sanji before he joined? What were his feelings for Zeff? What were his responses to Luffy's request? How about Chopper? Nami? Franky…? None of these people had purpose, goals, or desires prior to their joining. None of them refused directly or indirectly to join Luffy at first. Except they did, and they did...

LOL I was joking.

So defensive, just cuz your theory is just going to remain a theory.

brennen.exe

@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:

LOL I was joking.

I'm sure you were. :happy:

@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:

So defensive, just cuz your theory is just going to remain a theory.

Yeah, saw that one coming a million miles away. It has nothing to do with "my theory"; were other good theories around, and someone said something as stupid as you did, I would correct them all the same.

herr_sebbe

@brennen.exe:

Yeah, saw that one coming a million miles away. It has nothing to do with "my theory"; were other good theories around, and someone said something as stupid as you did, I would correct them all the same.

I actually agree with Brennen here, though I am not a supporter of his theory. People trying to come up with complicated dreams just gets pretty annoying. All the current strawhats have easy and quickly understandable dreams, like becoming the king of pirates, drawing a world map etc. Not some "That guy died, so now it's my duty (not will) to fullfill his dream by travelling with some random rookie he put his trust in. Screw Fishman Island, even though that's the cause for my devotion to Whitebear in the first place." The dream has to be way simpler than that, even for Jimbei. :P

Zik

@brennen.exe:

I'm sure you were. :happy:

Yeah, saw that one coming a million miles away. It has nothing to do with "my theory"; were other good theories around, and someone said something as stupid as you did, I would correct them all the same.

What did I say that was stupid if it was intended to be a joke?

Since when do we correct jokes?

It's obvious why you're uptight about that particular joke tho. It's even more apparent since you saw it coming a million miles away.
@herr_sebbe:

I actually agree with Brennen here, though I am not a supporter of his theory. People trying to come up with complicated dreams just gets pretty annoying. All the current strawhats have easy and quickly understandable dreams, like becoming the king of pirates, drawing a world map etc. Not some "That guy died, so now it's my duty (not will) to fullfill his dream by travelling with some random rookie he put his trust in. Screw Fishman Island, even though that's the cause for my devotion to Whitebear in the first place." The dream has to be way simpler than that, even for Jimbei. :P

Well damn, I guess it wasn't a joke if more than one person didn't get it.

Fine then lol. I think that's Jimbei's actual dream.

facepalm I didn't think I had to put lol at the end of any post that was jokingly taking a shot at Jimbei's repetitive character trait.

brennen.exe

@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:

What did I say that was stupid if it was intended to be a joke? Since when do we correct jokes?

There wasn't even notable sarcasm in your post, and you have used that same line of argumentation before, so why would I believe that was a 'joke'…? I guess...get better material?

@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:

It's obvious why you're uptight about that particular joke tho. It's even more apparent since you saw it coming a million miles away.

Blah, blah, blah. I'm uptight because I called someone out for something off base. It's more like, "So defensive, just cuz your opinion is just going to remain a opinion."

@herr_sebbe:

People trying to come up with complicated dreams just gets pretty annoying.

To me, any frustration stems from people slapping labels onto characters they don't like, just because they don't like them. Forget reason and evidence, "they aren't interesting to me, so this won't happen" or "they suck". It basically boils down to a bandwagon of distaste for characters that have or lack qualities the reader might have (or hadn't) wanted. Case in point: Ace and Jinbei can be realistic, and in very serious moments in the story they want to make responsible, wise, and selfless decisions… so they must be depressing, whiny, too-serious bitches that need to die. Fast.

Zik

There wasn't even notable sarcasm in your post, and you have used that same line of argumentation before, so why would I believe that was a 'joke'…? I guess...get better material?

That's why it isn't a surprise. It isn't the first time you've misinterpreted something I've said about Jimbei when I was just joking or exaggerating off of a point.

I can't be accountable for your sense of humor or inability to detect sarcasm.

Blah, blah, blah. I'm uptight because I called someone out for something off base. It's more like, "So defensive, just cuz your opinion is just going to remain a opinion."

"an opinion"

If this is what you really think why bother?

wintergt

@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:

I can't be accountable for your sense of humor or inability to detect sarcasm.

I thought you were serious aswell when I read it, although I can understand it could have been a joke..@brennen.exe:

To me, any frustration stems from people slapping labels onto characters they don't like, just because they don't like them. "Forget reason and evidence, they aren't interesting to me, so this won't happen" or "they suck". It basically boils down to a bandwagon of distaste for characters that have or lack qualities the reader might have (or hadn't) wanted. Case in point: Ace and Jinbei can be realistic, and in very serious moments in the story they want to make resonsible, wise, and selfless decisions… so they must be depressing, whiney, too-serious bitches that need to die. Fast.

Agreed so much! (and for me, we can add Mihawk, who everyone seems to think is a big failure because he didn't kill everyone in one hit, but who I think did quite well in the war and actually attacked important opponents, compared to the other shichis)

KingofSarus

What annoys me is that people act like they don't have common sense.
It's okay to make random and/or retarded ass posts on whose going to join the Straw Hats. You have that right.
But, people sometimes get butthurt because they said, I dunno… "Sengoku is going to join the Straw Hats" and don't say or hint they're joking and they get their feelings hurt because they got ripped on for not taking a discussion seriously when people ask for evidence, quote and etc...

Sevo

Perona because I want her to and it may work :P

Although I see her loyalties lying with Moria.

AGOG

@Sevo:

Perona because I want her to and it may work :P

Although I see her loyalties lying with Moria.

She defected.

Her loyalties are basically "none" and to her own damn self.

Did I miss much of anything… Got to read...

madmanricky

you never know she might stay there and be the queen of that island

AGOG

@BattleFrankyBot:

if ur talkin to me i was referring to the void century being the dream of robin

I can't remember…

as far as the oatmeal argument i suppose ur right to a degree and the people that want perona to join r wishful thinking filling in the gaps of her why and how she acts the way she does ( i dont find it un reasonabl) but its possible shes just a flakey cant be trusted person

It's flaky because it is… I know, however, the idea that a character joins isn't flaky... A character (or two) will join, it is only a matter of "when" than "if"... We know there are at LEAST two more coming our way, just the only thing unknown is when.

I'm picking Perona because of any other character introduced, she seems the most "story wise" operational character around.

@mickdestroy:

Accept it guys, no one has better probabilities of joining the crew than Boa, and so many fans wish for it that I think Oda will appeal to that.

Role???
The captain's lover
Tragic past???
Yes
Her dream???
Be with Luffy XD
LOL???(provide more fun within the crew)
Yes
Luffy would approve her joining???
Yes, she has helped him a lot

Geez the only thing that stops her from joining is the island she threw away by refusin to attend the Shichibukai meeting

Lols just imagine: Jimbei, Crocodile, Mr. 2 or Ace makin kampai with the crew or with em in a colorspread= EPIC FAIL

Of course… With those merits, she makes all the nakama look shameful... Hell, Oda basically had a backlash from all that Movie 10, therefore, he fucked up all of this saga just to get a character like her to join...

@Karmine:

On Perona : I've done so much of arguments about her not joining that I am not going to repeat myself. I will however say I TOLD YOU SO! later on.

On Hancock : Pets are now allowed… so no no for her XD just kidding.... I think that if it is a Warlord he/she needs to have been beaten up already by Luffy to show that Luffy can beat that Warlord.

Crocodile : I got a feeling of him joining... the arguments against him is "HE IS CROC" "Crocs are predators not to be trusted" "Crocodile would kill him" "Croc is evil" and so on... everything about him and the animal his name is from. Even if his name is Crocodile does not mean he is a crocodile! Hancock does not show to me similar to Snake... Kuma is not a bear is he now ? Doflamingo does he fight and behave the the birds ? Explain why a snake or whatever animal Jimbie was would be so nice to Luffy and help him and be likely to join if Crocodile is out of the question cause of HIS NAME!

Your argument, sure lack… But, you can hope to say "I told you so!!" all you want.

I'm sure you keep telling yourself this every day.

Seriously, the lips argument sucked...
@herr_sebbe:

Seriously, all of your arguments that I have read are worthless. First you say Perona can't join because of her lips and now your main argument for Crocodile joining is that he isn't a crocodile?

"I told you so" should be said by someone whose actual argument proved the character unable to join. Or by someone whose support candidate joined. Not by someone who just came around and said "That character won't join". :wassat:

Agreed…

I'd suicide before even listening to a guy say that... I'd rather have my dignity than being told I told you so by someone that thinks LIPS are going to disclude a character...
@Hinscher:

i'm only against perona due to her devil fruit.

as for joining new members i could care less and think that no more will. How about we make a new topic. Something to the extent of like:

NEW Strawhat allied crews

or something like that. You know discuss who we think will become Luffy's 47 new world captains that follow him. You know how Whitebeard has all these allies, that aren't part of his crew. I would imagine we could put these down so far or potentially.

1. Rosy Life Riders (for sure)
2. Kuja Pirates (for sure - regardless if Hancock joins or not)
3. Jimbei (dont' know if he is still a captain of crew or solo shichi)
4. Lola Pirates

Possible
1. Iva (dont' know if he has a queer crew or if he will go back to Dragon)
2. Buggy
3. Ace (not sure what to put him as, cause figure he will become like a rival captain of Luffy, though on brotherly love terms) So figure won't see a help from him until very end when taking down WG for ancient history time.

any more, and you think good idea for a new topic? basically same as this topic, but not guessing new crewmembers, but new allied crews that will help out strawhats if they call.

Seems so boring… Why change the topic to "random" people... We have TWO more characters that are foreshadowed to be a part of the crew... Those two, could very well be anyone.
@Karmine:

Yea… about the lips that is kinda one of my last arguments!

Perona is bit evil in nature, she loved to be mean to her servants.

She was only mean to one, genius. All because he wouldn't stop listening to her advice on how to look cute. She dearly loved him though… She even mourned when he died.

Of all the things you say, the lips argument is better than this.

She was willingly serving Moria and respected him.

I'll agree to the respect, but I think it is for a different reason… However, she was basically joining him for fun, which we don't have defined.

Nami and Robin both willingly served their folks too...

She cares more for her own life than trying to help her boss.

So does Nami and Usopp…

She is a coward.

Not really… She is more childlike, her "scared" moments are basically childlike attitude actions... Nothing big. She actually isn't a coward.

She has no bounty

Again, you can claim that she has a bounty if you wanted to…

You could EASILY hold a future where she just nonchalantly adds "Look!! Me DARN BOUNTY!!"

She has some things that could very well introduce her having a bounty. So, you don't have a definite answer about this...

She must be invited by Luffy himself, Zoro would not bring her unless something came up that forces him to bring her.

Luffy liked ghosts.

She must first refuse Luffy's first offer of joining(Robin and Usopp break this)

Or she can ask…
**> MOST IMPORTANT! Before she joins there must be a BOSS FIGHT!(No one breaks this, even if they just "temp" join like some say they did have a boss fight)

Now tell me how to do boss fight before she joins ? That means that the boss fight must be on SI.

There needs no boss… Stop preaching your random patterns as if they are facts. If this shit is how Oda plans, then freaking Bleach is better at STORY than Oda's One Piece...

BOSS BOSS BOSS BOSS

Only in your head does this matter.

Situation arises where someone new is needed or Luffy mentioning it often he wants some specific thing.

He mentioned a ghost.

She dislikes people telling her what to do and dislikes anyone disobeying her will.

She only dislikes Cute Zombies that have NOT CUTE voices talking…

Her dream is to create a country where all the 'cute' people are turned into zombie animals that obey only her.

No, that's you reading it wrong… Her dream, her past, her job, her everything remains unknown.

She wished she was back on Thriller Bark.

Yes, however, the whole thing was BECAUSE she held things there that she didn't have here…

In other words, it DOESN'T mean anything at all.... She just wants a new home, some place she can feel comfortable.

According to her desires, you could suggest the SH ship as that.

How about this as few points ?

Horrible.
@BattleFrankyBot:

shes mean to her servants cause she doesnt know what true friendship is

it was never said that she respects moria just that she had fun under him

she value her life and never really respected her boss

usopp is a coward as well as nami but they have friendship and a bond that they can fight for perona doesnt

no bounty can be fixed if she helps fight the next boss with them

we dont know her real dream just that she would like to be spoilied and her way of seeing that happen is with servants

hows that for a few points? I know there are actual legitimate arguments why she cant join… and that we wont really know that for sure one way or the other untill Oda gives another peek into her personality. At this point its speculation on both sides what her true personality is like and wheter she has what it takes to possibly join

Most of these are wrong… She could HOLD a bounty now. We have no information.

Furthermore, most of the Perona stuff work.**

KagePakkun

The people I see are:

Perona- because of most of the things these guys above me said. (She hardly even crossed my mind) She's very likely to join.

She probably has like a…4/5 joining chance, just because she's following Zoro and she has nowhere to go.

Bon Clay- I actually don't see him joining anymore, I think he's gonna stay with the okama, but who am I to guess?

I feel like he has a 2.9/5 joining chance.

Jinbei- I like him, I hope he joins, he's so cool. Don't have much to say. He seems to appreciate Luffy enough, adding -kun and stuff to his name and stuff.

I say he has a 3/5 joining chance.

Hancock- She is the most likely choice, I mean Luffy is her BELOVED and she's so attached to him. If she leaves him (or vice versa) isn't she gonna die?
Although she loves her sisters and Nyon and Kuja Island, she may just abandon everything for Luffy and help his dream come true. FOR LOVE.

I say she has a 5/5 joining chance.

Crocodile and Buggy:
Not joining. Enough said.(Not really.) After this Buggy will definately not join, he has a billion new guys to his crew (if they live after the war, that is), and his current crew probably won't have it (I'm not sure on how to express my thought on this). In the end I think Buggy will see some good in Luffy after this, and become an ally of some sort. Crocodile? Nope.
Croc: 1/5 chance
Buggy 0/5 chance

Inazuma: I don't see why.
2/5 chance

Ivankov: Probably, I'm not on a definate yes, though.
3/5 chance

Afterthoughts: I don't really think the Shichibukai stuff matters, I don't think people are truly paying attention to the characters and their thought processes and stuff. Theyr'e only going by what they think will hurt or help the story.

Remember, these are only my opinions, I guess take them with a grain of salt (a lot of people say that on this forum, so I thought....).

madmanricky

i just don't see perona or hancock getting their hands dirty even when it come no other choice

Luffy-Gear-Fourth

I think the 11 supernovas will once again meet in Marineford.

Cause I read something in the manga when they saw Luffy battling with the marines, they said "Let's go" so maybe they were going to the marineford to compete with luffy again. "Just a guess"

and thus, Trafalgar Law and his crew will be crushed and only Captain Jean Bart and his bear will remain, Joining luffy and the crew after the war..

LOL! just a random guess,

madmanricky

i think silvers,hatchan,and jimbei will all play a part in the next crew members recruitment i think silvers will recommend a position like helmsman and something else since he was on the crew that sailed to raftenel first he should know what kind of crew members are needed to get there so then maybe hatchan and jimbe know a fishman that always wanted to be a member fisher tiger" crew but never got a chance so the two of them talk him into joining the strawhats

Deicide

@brennen.exe:

To me, any frustration stems from people slapping labels onto characters they don't like, just because they don't like them. Forget reason and evidence, "they aren't interesting to me, so this won't happen" or "they suck". It basically boils down to a bandwagon of distaste for characters that have or lack qualities the reader might have (or hadn't) wanted. Case in point: Ace and Jinbei can be realistic, and in very serious moments in the story they want to make responsible, wise, and selfless decisions… so they must be depressing, whiny, too-serious bitches that need to die. Fast.

A wise opinion.

More than a year ago, I've said once somewhere in this topic: in the end, peoples' theories are based mostly on what character they like and dream to see joining the crew, and all the talk about logic or patterns or why other characters can't join are just bullshit. Whoever Oda wants to join the crew, he will make it work, no matter how unlikely it seems to be.

–---------------------------------

Case in point: I want Boa Hancock to join. I think her "lovable jerkass" personality would add a lot to the crew, and she would eventually warm up to the others and become friends with them, just like Franky or Robin did.

I also would like to see a strong woman who can actually kick ass.

As for her being too strong, the others will grow. I don't see her outshining Zoro or Sanji for long. You can bet everyone will show new and improved abilities in their next fights.

About her island's safety, there are ways to make it work. We could very well have a flashback of Hancock just before she leaves Amazon Lily with Luffy telling Nyon to warn her sisters that she may not be coming back and, should she lose her title, her sisters should take charge, declare her a traitor and offer the WG their services in hunting Hancock and the Strawhat crew in exchange for sparing their island. So, her heartfelt goodbye to her amazon friends and sisters could happen in the middle of a "battle" with them. That's just one solution, I'm pretty sure we could have other ways around the problem of protecting Amazon Lily.

But that's just my opinion, of course. I understand the chances of anyone joining are slim at best.

MarcelloF

@AGOG:

She cares more for her own life than trying to help her boss.

So do Nami and Usopp…

Not true. Nami, maybe, as a joke, but in the end, they'd both do everything to help Luffy.

wintergt

@Deicide:

More than a year ago, I've said once somewhere in this topic: in the end, peoples' theories are based mostly on what character they like and dream to see joining the crew, and all the talk about logic or patterns or why other characters can't join are just bullshit.

That is very true. Like if I would be arguing for the person I would prefer to join, it would be Margaret. Due to her personality (naive, unknowing about the world) I think she would fit best with the crew, but it would be silly to argue that since she's out of the picture already. The only ones that have been brought forth by the story to have any sort of chance for joining, are Jimbei and Hancock. But even they seem rather unlikely. (Hancock has a strong personal incentive to stay with Luffy, but Oda invented a plot element with the safety of her island to prevent her from joining)

AGOG

This is merely to pass the time and such, so, yeah… Ummm.... Here's a little something for the people that like big posts.

Where'd You Go!!?? Perona-sama!!

Most people do not really know the details about Perona, so I choose to explain the things that we are shown and presented s facts, over, the things that we aren't shown at all… Please, enjoy!

Perona's Past:

! A lot of people like to basically badmouth her because ALL of the current Nakama hold or have held some sort of sad past that basically motivates their future and turns them to love chasing after their dreams with no fear of death or anything… Since, currently, Perona doesn't have one, people like to badmouth her excessively….
! In terms of visuals and such, this picture is the farthest her past has been revealed: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/468/09/
! Moria's face is somewhat shown, Absolam's couldn't be shown since the face was altered later on and it seems that Oda didn't shown Absolam either because prior to Hogback joining, Absolam basically didn't have the same face back then. In other words, whatever face Absolam had back then, that face was basically not shown since it could be shown much later or not shown at all…
! There was an SBS question about this, however, Oda rejected that the lion which was asked about, that one lion didn't hold Absolam's face. So, in this sense, Absolam's face is a mystery...
! Moreover, same thing works for Perona, however, her face is not as darkened out and such... Her face, which is at least somewhat visible, is slightly able to be seen. Of course, the whole thing about her past is a big mystery... Here, another picture, shows the explanation of why Perona has a doll in her arms: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/472/20/
! Regardless, the only other information that was provided prior to her past even being shown, it was this: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/472/18/
! Her reason to join Moria.
! So, in clear conclusion, her entire past dating before she even came onto the pirate ship is basically unknown and such… We have no information concerning her past at all.
! Perona's past is unknown.

Perona's position is not named.

! Once again, most of the people continually suggest that the next nakama will hold a position and such; of course. Therefore, even a new to-be-nakama should hold a position as well, right??!? Yes. However, when it comes to Perona, people fail at understanding that whatever position she HELD remains unknown and unnamed as well…
! On this page, it shows what "title" Perona held at this very time… http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/449/18/
! Commander of the Surprise Zombies and Wild Zombies
! Obviously, there's nothing there that suggests any position of that sort… Just a mere title, which could be basically in reference to things that define authority over anything to do with what role she contributes towards the whole Thriller Bark organization.
! Now, what does her position do?
! Simple…
! First, she collects the treasure and leads the exhibition to raid the enemy's ships for supplies. She also deals with the zombie inventory, it would seem: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/451/06/
Furthermore, the treasure is stored relatively close to her: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/454/05/
Here's her performing her duties: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/454/07/
! She contributes this system known as "Ghost Network" and such: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/453/13/
Here's her informing the other two people about her discoveries within her "Ghost Network" system… http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/447/07/
! So, to sum it all up, this is what she does:
! * Commands all of the Wild Zombies

Commands all of the Surprise Zombies
Performs reconnaissance
Gathers supplies from the enemy ships.
"Ghost Network"
Seems to specialize in treasure and organization of zombies
Fights enemies as well

! So, in other words, she does plenty of things that could make her into many roles, respectfully speaking. Moreover, there's just not enough information to conclude that she has a definite position that exists for the crew's usage, she clearly could have many forms of positions that would exist…
! Perona's role is unknown, however, she has plenty of potential that allows her to add some contribution to the crew.

Perona's dream is unknown.

! Upon popular belief, and story themes, every current nakama holds some sort of dream or so… They are often deep in thought and such, however, innocent in written form; a child's dream sense...
! Moreover, people suspect that every NAKAMA must hold this in the future as well. I agree, however, when it comes to Perona, most people misjudge her and state something totally wrong in this sense…
! To people, this page shows her dream which is basically this: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/456/10/
! And the country of my dreams, where all cute people are changed into zombies obedient to me, it's before my eyes…
! Of course, there's a lot of stuff here… So, let's examine it:
The word, "dreams" is basically a property of "country" and therefore, it is merely empathizing itself. The subject is that her country of her dreams is basically one where only cute people become zombies that obey her commands. In this sense, her entire character seems to stress the "cute" factor and a "location" for some reason ~ as if, these two things matter explicitly more than anything else…
! Naturally, the question remains, would this be a "dream" by any chance?
! I would state, "no!"
My reason is because of the way her statement is worded… Of course, the dreams each and every SH holds, they are simple-minded ones:
! * Luffy: seeks to become a Pirate King

Zoro: seeks to become the Number One Swordsman
Nami: seeks to visit and travel the world, there after, creating a map of the whole world with her own two hands
Usopp: seeks to become a Brave Warrior of the Sea just like his father
Sanji: seeks to find this mythical body of water called All Blue
Chopper: wishes to cure all the diseases known to mankind
Robin: seeks the Rio Poneglyph to learn of the "True History"
Franky: seeks to become the greatest shipwright
Brook: seeks to circumnavigate the whole Grand Line and then complete his promise to Laboon after accomplishing the deed

! In all of these "dreams" (I'd think that these are more ambitions than actual dreams…), there is a deeper meaning. For instance; Luffy seeks to become the Pirate King in order to gain the most freedom possible. His dream is freedom. The other characters should hold the same thought, however, we do not have complete understanding of them all… Usopp, his dream is basically to be like his father; therefore, thinking that he wants to become better than his father is also probable… Nami's dream seems to give her fame and recognition, therefore, she wishes to gain them (should be backed by her childhood personality and desire to have money and stuff). I have no idea about Zoro, however, it may be to find his place or something… Sanji wants to prove to himself that this place exists. Robin, she seems to wish for attention and such... Chopper wants to have about the same as anyone; he wants recognition, attention, and a sense of relief. Franky wishes to be the best, plain and simple: his reason for this is unknown and could have something to do with recognition or so... Brook, I would think has to do with retribution.
! Anyhow, the point of this is that there's two things different from this dream that people associate with Perona:
! * The first is that it is isn't stated directly in any sense, therefore, it merely describes what her "dream country" is…

The second is that it is basically in a very different form of literature, or at least it is written that way.

! Now, some people may assume that villains do not have dreams, nor do side characters… of course, these characters do:
! * Crocodile

Mayor Boodle
Coby
Vivi
Moria
Ace
Blackbeard
Hatchi
Caimie
Hyannibul
Zeff
etc.

! Some of these characters have already accomplished their dreams, which suggests that they do come true. Furthermore, some of these characters were in the same sort of environment as Perona was; however, they turned out to have a far more peaceful and simple dream than we could originally imagine.
! Regardless, my point is that her dream is unknown… However, we could try and understand her dream in some long shot speculation. It would ultimately end up being wrong, though.
! What we do know about her, would be the following things:
! * The COUNTRY she wants to command is basically full of CUTE ZOMBIES that obey her: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/456/10/

If she was going on a TRIP, the place she wishes to head to is here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/473/14/
Lastly, her desires are these: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/524/10/

! Moreover, her three things are somewhat connected in a sense that she seems to express that the thing she desires for or dreams of would basically provide her with "stability" of some sorts. She wishes for some sort of home it seems to suggest… Moreover, I would gladly like to speculate about why and such, but the FACT is that her dream in life is unknown… She's not a desperate pessimist either, so she surely should strive to live as she had said before when she fought against Usopp earlier on.
! So, the things that lead me to conclude that surely she holds a real dream in the future would basically be the idea that she, herself, believes in the will to live through life, regardless of the hardships. Otherwise, if she held no attachment towards the future, there'd be point in her living at all… Or so I would think.
! The clear thing that comes to my mind is that the thing that she holds attachment to is basically "objects" as well as "company" – in her words, this company would be the stress on "zombies/ servants/ etc." since she never denounces the living in any way.
! She merely wants something "cute" and whatever else that may be, she hasn't ever stated it. Therefore, this is the conclusion to us concerning her dream: it is merely for an object called "fun" – of course, this isn't an object. However, the method to gain that fun is what her "ambition/ goal" would naturally be (i.e. Luffy wanting to be the PK, Nami making a World Map, etc. etc.)… This "thing" that allows her to have fun is what her dream would be… That thing is currently NOT KNOWN. However, the thing that she seeks out of life is "fun" and she wishes for it the most out of everything else…
! So, her conclusion is that her dream is going to provide her "fun" – however, we do not know what "fun" she wishes for, therefore, we can question if what she is currently doing is any fun at all. The point is that she currently has not revealed her dream at all… BUT, we could safely assume that her desired dream will bring a concept labeled as "fun" to her…
! Her dream is not revealed.

Those would be the basics of the things people assume nakama should hold… In this sense, currently, logically speaking and such, Perona lacks all three of them being stated directly, however, she could still have them introduced.

Of course, some people assume that there are other more crucial aspects to characters being considered (and eventually becoming) nakama… Some of which are these:

@Objective:

Perona is a bad character; she is evil as a person.

I read this comment and actually question the sanity and / or intelligence of the person that suggests this is actually within the bounds of the story… To me, this is a very incorrect read of the manga from a reader's perspective. I do not even understand how people reach this conclusion either, it seems like something totally incorrect.

So, let's expand upon this sort of stuff, thus providing reason against illogical misreadings…

First, these two panels show her having a sense of "empathy" which is often a difficult thing for some "evil" people to have:
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/461/17/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/03/

Having empathy [TRANSLATION: is the capability to share another being's [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion"]emotions and feelings] allows her to sympathize with others and feel "pain", "sorrow", "happiness", and many other feelings/ emotions that some people can share. Often times, having "empathy" allows the existence of a concept known as compassion which would basically mean the following: deep awareness of the suffering of another coupled with the wish to relieve it.

This is often shared by good people; compassion is a difficult thing to hold. So, the thing alone proves that Perona is a very kind individual … It shows that she's actually a good person deep down inside. Let's actually address the characters that are within the crew for the moment being:

Luffy, he will fight a lion for a dog… Without even a reason; a symbol of great compassion.
Zoro, he will basically eat a dirtball and state it was good because the girl worked extremely hard and it was her first time making it.
Nami, she is quite obvious… However, as an example, she will basically put others before her.
Usopp, he basically has shown great compassion with the whole Little Garden arc.
Sanji, his compassion was basically when he saw Zoro and Luffy fight [of course, there's a billion of these involving his incapability to leave someone hungry…]
Chopper, as a doctor, he shows worry and such towards his patients…
Robin, most recent, but she's shown to not kill and even help out Luffy twice.
Franky, him crying all the time is proof enough.
Brook, he was showing this when he saw the crew fight for him and basically the first time they met.

Overall, the whole crew is extremely compassionate, and that's a given. Next crew member must be compassionate because this is how Oda has basically provided the whole characterization of the SH crew. This is a character trait that must exist… It's present and constantly being re-emphasized upon in the manga, day after day, the whole manga shows this. EVERY crew member has shown this prior to joining. Perona, she does not lack this at all… To my understanding, she's an incredibly compassionate person.

The following three pages show reference towards her having compassion:

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/524/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/524/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/524/12/

Here, she has helped Zoro, her enemy. Her motives are probably unknown, but the act of which she helped him is known.

She had to lift Zoro up and carry him towards the castle.
She had to care for him, extensively, for at least around a single day [the background setting changes by means of time; sun rises, moon drops].
She exhausts herself taking care of him.

So, we can understand that she was exerting an enormous amount of effort to make him better [relieve him] of his pain. She grew tired from the continuous work and fell asleep next to him. To be honest, it is a very kind deed indeed. Her whole entire "day" [could be 24 hours], had been spent taking care of this man who was just a week ago her enemy. Sure, she removes his swords, but then after these pages:

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/559/01/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/560/01/

The man has his weapons back. She is shown in the background, floating of course…

Now, there are actually numerous examples of her feeling grief towards "despair" and "misery" within something else:

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/08/
Reference all the times she witnesses a shadow being purified.

So, the whole idea that she's an incredibly bad person is basically her treatment of Kumacy. However, she's only harsh towards him in terms of trying to make him look better in terms of "cuteness" and such. She is treating him like a mother would treat a child and worries constantly of his image. Since his voice is not "cute" she wishes for him to just remain mum to counter that struggle. Of course, she still showed grieving the moment that Kumacy had been defeated.

So, overall, Perona is a good person. She really is and she has an impressive deal of compassion towards undead, dead, and so on. She is a very caring character, it would seem.

@Objective:

Some people assume that Perona has nothing to gain from joining the Strawhat Crew.

Of course, this is an incorrect statement. Of all the things that she wishes for, the most obvious and accurate thing is "fun" and nothing else… It is the first and foremost thing that she seeks out of every other necessity [in terms of [I]told things].

The strawhat crew is a very very very fun group, they love adventuring and excitement.

Other notable things are the following:

To sing accursed songs.
Servants [company is the best definition behind this word].
A warm bed.
Bagel sandwich with hot cocoa.
Someplace with cute and cuddly toys.

These are all the stated things that she wishes to have and more than likely, "treasure" would be another thing that she might like.

Now, all of these could very well be found from the strawhat crew's presence. They can easily provide these things for her:

Singing is something that Luffy, Usopp, and Chopper love doing. She could join it… Most likely, Brook is very capable of playing this type of song.
"Servants" would best be explained by "companions" as in "people" to talk to… The SH crew is lively and has many ranges of personality quirks to satisfy Perona.
A warm bed is very simple, Franky could easily create it and I am sure that the crew holds a fine quality bed at their pleasure.
Food, which is something that she may have been served at Thriller Bark, is shown to be made by Sanji. Here is him making a dish from Thriller Bark: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/490/14/
Cute and cuddly toys, which surely are able to be on board since she did "restock" the ship herself… I am sure that she didn't forget to include something this important… And if they aren't there, she could easily get them… Regardless, the point is that she most likely did place the toys on the ship when she was escaping Thriller Bark.
Treasure, it was restocked by her.
Food, it was restocked by her.
Clothing, I assume that it was also restocked onto the ship by her; therefore, her clothing should remain there. For instance, Nami seems to keep wearing Perona's outfits. Besides, Nami and Perona should have the same size; therefore, they could share clothes if the need comes. Of course, the idea that her clothes remained on the ship prior to them being "removed" by Kuma… Lays here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/500/10/ this shows that the women had to shop for their clothes… Which may have been a "necessity" sort of thing. Furthermore, they never technically returned to the ship as they were picked up and then eventually sent off into distant areas by Kuma. So, Perona's clothing should still be present on the ship.

The whole entire thing suggests that much to our surprise, it seems that Perona's desires [or, things that she can benefit from the SH crew] are all on the ship already, only thing missing is her own self.

@Objective:

She is far too proud to be a crew member.

An interesting idea, it really is… However, it would be an incorrect read of her character completely. She has shown that she does hold extreme pride in her own talents and abilities, however, she has willingly [for [I]fun] followed the authority of another figure; Moria. We don't know what she gained from this, but she has done this. Nonetheless, she is more than able to "follow" orders and deal with difficulties… She even shows willingness to change if need be: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/10/

So, "pride" isn't really a matter here, she could adjust as she has shown the ability to do such… However, the only thing that matters of her is that she would actually be "given" the chance to join-- the whole crew being present and Perona being used a transport character to aide Zoro towards Rayleigh's location. If she did do this, then her joining wouldn't be impossible at all.

So, this is just an inaccurate read of her character…

@Objective:

She isn't able to help Zoro; if she was, that wouldn't guarantee her joining nonetheless…

Of course, the whole idea is dependent on the known and the thought that a story should be totally boring and badly written in every literate sense. I personally think that this point is one of the worst possible reads possible. To be honest, I don't understand how badly someone can answer something with a groundless statement, when, especially in this situation, the need is addressed.

The main idea that Perona should be able to join is bound by the idea that she will assist Zoro in order for him to return to Rayleigh and the Strawhat crew. So, why would she?

Her motives: companionship to battle her clearly depicted issue of loneliness that she has just recently been given by Kuma. Kuma zapped her away. He zapped her to a place seemingly "lifeless" completely.

Zoro's need: he is lost, and when he is lost, he ends up failing…

So, in this sense, I have formulated over a great quantity of posts depicting why on earth this action is direly needed to help Zoro find his way back.

Here's that explanation:

! This is a post: http://forum.onemanga.com/showpost.p…&postcount=181
! Read some of this stuff from here,
Spoiler:
! Let's see by going deeper… Therefore, Perona is our MAIN PROTAGONIST:
! * For the first part, the plot-line is basically this "midnight attack…" that she's supposed to be a part of. That will be the consistent plot, that event.

Perona starts here, and we are shown a rising action; Kumacy is the antagonist towards our main protagonist. Therefore, we can expect a conflict… we get one. The first plot line is basically Kumacy talking, so, since he already talked, we can understand he will shut up by the resolution... Now, we are going back to the consistent plot-line; "midnight attack".
Perona is basically shown not there yet; our plot-line becomes complete when she happens to get there: here and we are shown a new one for her: "strawhat crew" is the current plot for Perona.
here we have two plot-lines introduced; collecting treasure, then the coffin. So, we can assume that Perona has to go and get treasure; of course, that was after the whole "Kumacy don't talk" plot line.
- here we open up a new plot-line; no treasure chests on the ship… As well as continuing the plot-line that they take out all the rations. At the moment, they are winning... So, we can expect a tragedy. And we can expect that Perona fills up all the treasure. So, a new plot-line is introduced; No. 900!!
  - here two new plot-lines open up; Bearcy is talking again and basically Absalom is in her room; we can assume that Bearacy will shut up and Absolam will leave her room…
  - here's another one… A new plot-line: she is severe towards Bearcy, this means she'll change.
  - Then, the other plot continues; meet "master" in his room.
  - Lastly, a new plot opens: Humming Swordsman…
- here a new plot opens, they came early. So, this means they'll be late… Moria wants to be made the pirate king; means they won't make him the pirate king.
  - Remember our risky brothers, well, it turns out that they didn't bring them… What "plot"... http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/455/15/
  - They didn't bring them to the Bearsy, which means that they'll basically be brought to him… (they already are; thus, this will be a tragedy that they'll run away...)
  - here we have him say; "don't talk" and he talks; the resolution was that he gets yelled at…
  - here plot twist is that he rules away… Our protagonist seems like they can't stop Luffy; antagonist. This means, that they seemingly may let Luffy run away... Then, he gets stopped.
  - Basically, I would most likely want to fast forward…
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/455/18/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/456/08/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/456/10/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/456/12/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/457/03/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/457/08/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/457/09/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/458/04/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/460/07/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/460/11/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/461/12/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/461/13/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/461/14/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/461/15/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/461/16/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/461/17/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/461/18/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/462/02/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/462/03/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/464/16/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/464/19/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/02/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/03/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/04/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/05/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/06/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/07/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/08/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/09/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/10/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/11/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/12/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/13/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/14/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/15/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/16/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/17/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/18/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/465/19/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/02/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/03/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/04/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/05/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/06/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/07/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/08/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/09/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/10/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/11/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/12/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/471/04/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/471/05/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/472/18/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/473/10/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/473/11/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/473/12/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/473/13/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/473/14/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/473/15/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/473/16/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/513/02-03/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/513/04/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/514/02/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/524/10/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/524/11/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/524/12/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/559/01/
  - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/560/01/

! Alright, so let's basically quit the mini-plot summaries and just move to the big picture…
! So, let's first show the first thing, Perona's starting place: here.
! Her starting point is on the Thousand Sunny. So, there is a high chance that it should end on the Thousand Sunny.
! Now, let's basically add some other interesting plot things to note…
! Music:
! * Perona's hollow is shown here, as she starts the music plotline: 1.

Now, Brook is mentioned here: 2. So, this keeps stressing that Perona and Brook's plot line is being slowly connected.
here is basically something that Perona hasn't seen in person; Brook. So, this is where the rising action would be. She has yet to meet him.
here it seems that Perona is asleep and misses him; builds the rising action.
here it shows that she's basically heading towards a possible encounter with Brook.
Here is some more references towards a certain musician.
Here is another reference towards Brook.
So, the general idea is that this "plot-line" can be closed by the means of meeting up with Brook, the "Humming" swordsman …

! Friends:
! * here it triggers something for the future…

Then, she saves Zoro: here. So it seems the MIGHTY Usopp actually had a say in this…

! Nami:
! * Here is an interesting idea; Perona is basically never seen again. Maybe, this is a little too much foreshadowing that they may meet again…

hmmmm…. this seems like a challenge provoked by Perona. Maybe it is foreshadowing that basically it does that later on.

! Zoro Plotline:
! * here she is shown beside him.

She hit him with a negative ghost later, during the time Franky and Luffy were hit.
After that, she met him later when she basically saw him in her room. Zoro asked a question: here
After Zoro left, they basically would meet later on…
Here is an interesting idea; Perona is basically never seen again. Maybe, this is a little too much foreshadowing that they may meet again… these two express and reintroduce her into the story.
Zoro's gone on a trip which seems to suggest he answered something similar to Perona.
Here, something comes in the background…
Here she meets him, and here she heals him.
here they are shown walking together…
here same thing just about.
Why Zoro needs help with directions:
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/497/03/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/507/11/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/451/19/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/390/07/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/387/06/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/387/09/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/258/02/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/255/19/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/264/19/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/265/05/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/266/14/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/266/15/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/267/08/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/267/09/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/267/10/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/267/15/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/431/15/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/432/08/
- http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/205/17/
Each of those show that Zoro sucks at heading towards the same direction… he always has help. I did leave out a few of them. Basically, each time he says "I know where to go" or something like that, he fails.
Every other time, he cannot even follow the correct direction.
He had to be helped by Nami in Little Garden (was kidnapped).
By Usopp and Vivi in Drum Kingdom.
By marines in Alabasta.
In Sky Island he got lost…
In Sky Island he had to be helped by a South Bird to head South, he managed to head back to the starting point somehow.
In Water 7 he almost missed the stairs.
In Enies Lobby, he basically got lost when Nami told him the direction was directly in front of him.
Then, he got lost aimlessly wandering around trying to find the stairs, walked in a circle…
Got lost in Water 7 again, saw the marine ship and basically left, came right back to the same place.
Had to have help in order to get to Luffy by two people that tried to rob him.
His zombie got lost in Thriller Bark.
Basically, what I have shown to any person that can understand what they read… It is an obvious plot-line that has Zoro being lost.
In order to survive this, Perona is brought it, by means of foreshadowing, to help him.
Due to the other stuff, she has shown some sort of connections to these characters…

! So, let's actually analyze what she thinks of Moria:
! * Here she says why she joined.

here she basically no longer is with Moria, she makes it clear in her speech. She corrects herself.
So, she's basically said that she's no longer with Moria.

! Another important thing, which is basically simple, is the desires she wishes for:
The first one is of an island full of loyal servants that obey her command.
Second is to be in a dark castle full of malice.
To sing accursed songs.
Lastly, she says the following here: here
! * Wake up on a warm comfy bed in the morning.

I didn't want to be somewhere with no cute cuddly toys.
Be served a bagel sandwich with hot cocoa.
As well as a servant.
We can add accursed songs here.
Gold.
Fun.
Usopp's mercy.
The fact that she hasn't met Robin yet.

! So, basically we get that she wants to be around those things; which can be provided by the Thousand Sunny and the Straw hat crew. She also did want the Sunny as well.
! So, what does this mean?
! * It means that her dream "I want to rule a kingdom with zombie servants" no longer seems applicable since she's changed everything she's wanted after being alone here by Kuma.

She's basically now desiring some things that she had at Thriller Bark.
- Bed.
- Music.
- Toys.
- Servants.
- Food.
- Gold.
- And then some…
Of course, everything in Thriller Bark is destroyed according to the idea how these events happened:
- She wakes up and sees that everything is going wrong and is hectic.
  - Hogback was beaten by Oars.
  - Oars beat all the zombie generals.
  - Thriller Bark is falling apart.
  - Oars is basically all over the place doing damage.
She's afraid and basically goes to hide.

! It should explain why Zoro will need her help because he has done already the two known things that Oda hints when he foreshadows Zoro failing at directions:
! * One, he gets lost.

Two, he said he knew how to use it.

! After that, in case you can't tell that when he says "where the hell did they go" or whatever, that shows that he is lost… An indication, if you will.
! So, according to the "cover page" of the chapter 559, 560; Oda has said that Zoro is lost. As far as the VIVRE CARD goes, it is quite obvious that Oda had Zoro say "I know how to use it!!" when he answered Chopper.
! This is the way Zoro is always shown to foreshadow him needing "help" later on.
! If you want to prove that Zoro can use the VIVRE CARD, do actually prove this. With an example, thank you.

So, in a literal sense, the only thing that they lack currently is a ship. Of course, they would need the supplies that she [Perona] should be around with her "immobile" body stored about there. Perona is in Astral Projection form at the moment, she may be doing it for a purpose that helps them accomplish their "goal" faster… Of course, the idea is that they are looking for a ship, she is resting since she was tired after taking care of Zoro the whole time... Therefore, it is wiser for her to project herself and search in places that Zoro is not able to see; or at least at an eye-level he is incapable of seeing. In this sense, Perona has a great tendency to do helpful things in her and Zoro's quest for escape from this island.

Of course, this is all subjunctive and since we can label Zoro (by factual manga content) as LOST, then he would need help from someone. Of all the known characters, Perona seems to "remain" as the most capable character to perform the duties for him.

Now, some people have said that a "person" is not able to survive on the Grand Line with only two people manning that ship.

Well anyway, here's a single person manning his ship: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/382/01/
He isn't shown using his Devil Fruit Powers for movement: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/384/01/

He was eventually caught, however, this man was able to use a single ship to travel (or attempt to) the Grand Line. Same thing could be said of Igarum as well.

In every sense, the idea that Zoro will need help returning to the island should be treated as 99.9% correct. Where as the idea that Perona should very well be the one that is the one to assist him, that should too be treated as a 90.0% chance of being correct. In this sense, these two ideas should lead the two characters towards the same destination: Rayleigh's current location.

So, the idea remains that Perona should be the one that helps him since he is (stated) lost. She and him (should be) looking for a ship at the moment… Which will then be restocked with the supplies needed to make a trip towards Rayleigh's location; supplies should be near Perona's immobile body. So, prior to departing, the two should "return" to get Perona's body as well as the needed supplies.

Of course, the navigation of the Grand Line requires on "one" thing and that is the VIVRE CARD. It shouldn't point in any other direction than Rayleigh's current one. So, in this sense, Zoro is on a one-way path towards Rayleigh's current location. Other than that, there's no reason for them to "find" islands on the way there… The two should head towards one direction only.

Furthermore, Rayleigh stated that the SHIP as well as HIMSELF will remain in one of the Mangrove Trees of the whole SA island. Therefore, the path that the two head to is SA, just the location they end up on is basically -random- at best since Rayleigh didn't state a specific number he will be at. He will just be on SA for the crew to find him, three days from when he stated it…

Therefore, there's only one thing that they should do:

First, find a ship.
Second, return to gather the supplies back at the castle (and for Perona's physical body).
Third, follow the path of the VIVRE CARD towards which ever direction it points.
Fourth, arrive at the destination the VIVRE CARD points to.
Fifth, find Rayleigh upon the destination that they head to.
Sixth, Perona and Zoro will and should be directly near the ship.

Having this, it explains the enormous chance that Perona will be able to return to the Thousand Sunny. It is incredibly well setup to lead towards this conclusion.

Of course, after you've read all of this, you could easily understand that characters will have this sort of conclusion. You should also agree that this act is more than likely to be the most "logical" aspect in a story-telling sense… In other words, it is the most logical conclusion you could make.

@Objective:

Perona is far too selfish to join…

I actually don't really see this as any problem at all… We've never had an extremely "spoiled" individual among the crew yet. In fact, we've never had a young little girl either... Nami, who OBVIOUSLY acts far more mature than the other crew members.

In this sense, I think that this "helps" her chances of joining because it is a characterization that remains elusive within the ranks of the Strawhat Crew.

I think that her character [which is currently shown] remains in tow with the rest of the nakama and their quirky personalities.

She's a naive individual with a very "mature" front, however, extremely immature deep down inside. She's totally not Nami or Robin either.

Of course, these are all opinionated arguments, which are as baseless as anything… However, the idea that Perona is too selfish is also totally illogical since it has been indirectly stated that she seems to be a very generous character by Lola. She was called a very kind person as well…

@Objective:

Her "theme" is entirely similar to Brook…

Now, I personally think that this is the most illogical comment one can assume of this whole "joining" thing. Especially with this idea that "same arcs" dismisses characters from joining.

I wish to just state that the people that put emphasis on this, they are very illogical creatures. The reason is that they basically are trying to go above and beyond the story and their own respective critical voice… They are taking over the author's work and explaining their own personal opinion as a "need" for each crew member... Of course, they are pretty much making their horseshit a fact from naturally being referred to as a "groundless statement" in every sense…

They are too full of themselves, I would gladly criticize.

"Themes" are very practical in some books, however, for a reader to just "state" a theme as a fact, they would basically need to write the work in order for it to BE a fact. Which, unless you are Oda, it never is a fact anyway. Furthermore, the common and ONLY theme the Strawhat Crew holds is that they focus on "dreams" rather than "not" on them.

It is the ONLY theme that remains, that and the theme of "friendship" among the crew, which doesn't know anything about each other.

These two combined create the story theme… Other than that, there's nothing else concerning appearances; besides them being "ragtag" and "funky" in everything.

As well as "same arcs = cannot join" idea... That is basically someone expressing that this "occurrence" will dismiss every character... I don't agree. Sure, you could "claim" that same arc characters would not become nakama… But, that would be false. You could easily have had both Vivi and Robin join at the same arc. You could easily have both Iceberg and Franky join at the same arc, etc.

In addition, there was an arc where two "characters" had already joined: Franky and Usopp during the same arc.

Therefore, even if Perona basically was from the same "arc" as Brook, it wouldn't dismiss her unless Oda would state that as a fact. Assuming that it does... That's just wrong because the reader would have to be far too full of himself to suggest this.

In addition, the same thing applies to "appearances" and "themes for appearances" since some assume that the "Gothic" style is shown already in Robin/ Brook… However, the whole idea is so fragile because the opinion of it, that's loose... As well as the whole argument for it, that's also weak. Brook wears "suits" and a top hat. He holds a very similar "appearance" to Sanji.

Sure, you could say that all the things concerning Brook involves the same things for Perona, but that would be wrong. For Perona, she is very cute to say the least… She's totally not "scary" and such. She's merely a cute little child at best. Her being scary– that's like you being afraid of people.

To be serious, her appearance is totally not similar to any other character. Those are just horrible reads and horrible personal opinions of the ideas … They are wrong.

The right thing to do is just to say that the "themes" of the crew are not uniform, therefore, as long as a character is in-some-way different than another, that character holds a chance to join… Stating that the "appearance" is uniform, then that would mean both "Robin" and "Zoro" hold this "demon" idea and therefore, they shouldn't both be in the crew; yet they are.

Usopp is classified as a pessimist, coward, hero, etc… Of which, Perona doesn't apply towards.
Luffy is classified as an idiot at most… Obviously, Perona isn't that stupid.
Nami, who is a greedy treasure-loving woman… However, this quality seems similar, but it isn't on the same level for Perona… It is actually demoted in value for her and Perona's happiness and well-being is above that of "treasure" and such. She would rather have "food" and such... This, shows the difference between the two. However, the "other" small details do often show some minor similarities between these two girls, but they won't lead to Perona being uniform to Nami, since it is clear that they are not.
Robin, in a physical sense, she is very different than Perona… In a psychological sense, they are "slightly similar" as well... Both like the dark gloomy things in life. However, the difference between Perona and Robin, which is clear, is their level of maturity…
Zoro and Perona – clearly not uniform.
Sanji and Perona – obviously not uniform.
Franky, I would think that the two hold their qualities, but overall, they are seriously different.
Chopper, is not similar either.
Lastly, Brook and Perona. The difference is easy to pick up: Perona looks cute, she's serious, cheerful deep down inside, childlike, innocent, and somewhat eccentric. She's very different in personality than Brook, especially since Brook "fears" scary things, however, she often likes them. In addition, the maturity is clearly shown, and as is the appearance. Brook is very "dark" and such, he is usually "drawn" as very scary… Perona, she is shown as a "very" bright character... Just wears a Gothic Lolita style. She is not wearing black clothes and overdone mascara or whatever… She's not even shown to resemble any "haunted" image. She's wearing "pink" and "red" even... Obviously, the whole thing is different from Brook. Plus, her hairstyle is different and so on...

So, this is an opinion, but when you think about it, it seriously doesn't even hold up and it could never hold up without some statement from Oda's own mouth.

Otherwise, this is nothing more than an opinionated argument based upon no facts at all… Nothing to even suggest it happens or matters. A meaningless argument, at best.

Other than these few things, the other constant arguments aroused by Perona's mere name would be the details involving her characterization being a "coward", her being "weak", and of course, her Devil Fruit Power being either overpowering or far too weak and incapable.

However, you could easily either officially "care" or 100% "not-care" for such trivial nonsense.

I choose to not really care and such, because they aren't stable arguments for or against her…

Of course, some other things that each nakama hold are these:

Profession and Capability
Bounties
Dreams
Animal Resemblance
Specific Numbers
Colors
Smells
Favorite Island and Season
Favorite Food
Family Status
Nationalities
Sad Past and a Past
Surprisingly, they're shown wearing a headgear sometimes.

Most of this stuff is totally opinionated and holds no merit at all… However, in respect to the process... I will try and fill in the blanks:

Profession Unknown, Capability Unknown
She has a potential to hold a BOUNTY
Dream Unknown
Animal Resemblance, Unknown
Number Unknown
Color Unknown
Smell Unknown
Favorite Island is probably "dark and gloomy" so I would say would would be the type of season "Fall"
Bagel Sandwich with Hot Cocoa
Little Sister
Nationality, Unknown
Past, Unknown
Headgear, her crown…

So, the whole thing is basically up for grabs, but I assume that her color is basically "gray/ grey" and her number may be "36" or "9" concerning her actually joining… Her animal theme leads me to believe it would be an "Elephant" for some reason... Hmmm..........

Anyway, you could very well fill in anything you wanted here...

As you can for the following thoughts:
@Objective:

She is a coward…

She isn't, the reason is because she is merely a character that fears when introduced with the most adversary presented in front of her. Something completely new…

She ran and left Moria behind because of the danger to her life, which isn't making her a coward… She faced off against Kuma and Luffy without fear, but when she saw someone like "Oars" and he was looking for a girl after smashing around Thriller Bark and probably defeating BOTH Hogback and Absolam (with the General Zombies in the Church for the Wedding), she ran for her safety. However, she obviously didn't fear any character besides Oars and Usopp – who was immune towards her first portion of her Devil Fruit. She only feared Usopp because he defied the illogical. He changed her way of thinking as well, therefore, she had feared a man that she never thought would ever exist.

Other than that, she fears "bugs" and that's about it… She isn't a coward in any sense, on the contrary, she is very daring as a human being.

@Objective:

She is weaker than Usopp…

Again, another idea that bases itself off of opinions. Do understand that a "loser" in a fight, doesn't stand as the weaker individual… Therefore, you would not have a definite clue over who is weak or whatever...

Furthermore, the idea that Usopp won in "negativity" leads the reader to assume that he would be the weakest still since he lost in terms of negativity…

In addition, the original quote that this comes from is also loose... It doesn't specify upon what the other nakama have to be stronger than Usopp… Instead, it is just "stated" as a very vague thing.

It could mean the following:

physical strength
courage
power
self-esteem
etc.

In every sense, this quote is misleading and not definite… However, the various examples of Perona, which should be assumed that she's still stronger than him regardless of her losing, are more likely to be agreeing towards Perona being stronger than Usopp.

Aside, if this is the base for the whole argument, then we've seriously made plenty of mistakes.

@Objective:

Perona is not a boss character…

Another quote that holds a lack of meaning…

In every sense, she could fit the description of the next "traveling companion" because she is a former boss character in some sense. Which sense is that? Simple…

She was the former boss of the Wild Zombies and the Surprise Zombies; by "fact".

Of course, when she "defected" and such, she left behind her duties as well… So, in this sense, she does fit this idea…

Of course, none of this stuff really has any meaning on a future character being a permanent nakama either...

So, in every sense, this quote lacks substance to be considered as a "foundation"... It should only be used as a very tangible supporting evidence that shouldn't even be "considered" as definite either...

In other words, it is a very bad resource to use as a means of suggesting or discrediting characters from joining.

@Objective:

Her devil fruit power is questionable…

This is the only con that I approve against her, however, it isn't something that could not be elaborated upon and fixed…

Aside from arguing against it, there's no real way to dispute that this is something that holds no value. The idea is that her devil fruit power can still be expanded upon; which could introduce some ways to lower her cheap hit kills…

So, in this sense, there's nothing there to even remotely change this and create a "fact" out of it. There's still questions left of her. They need to be "addressed" if she is to join, though...

I hope that this has helped us understand Perona's case a little better… Further more, it would be an understatement to just say that each and every thing about Perona is very easy to change so that she could end up a 100% assertive nakama by the end of the "arc" or whatever… Only thing that limits her from joining at the moment, the only technicality is that she isn't physically at that "position" to either request to join or be invited to join... Other than that, there's nothing that can't be "included" if Oda wishes to add her into the crew.

Perona has very little against her joining, pretty much decreased to zero things against her.

She has many things for her, especially a whole entire backstory, future story, and characterization to reveal if she were joining.

Her limitless nature is what allows her a very good chance at being the next nakama.

Thank you for reading, at least we now know Perona's whereabouts…

TräshCät

you know .. there should be a max. characters per post limitation in this forum ….

wintergt

Holy mother of enormous posts.. and there's even more text in spoiler tags too? Sorry man gonna have to put you on ignore list so your posts don't stretch the threads..

Vanessa

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TräshCät

niiiiice vanessa, very nice~~~! ^^

AGOG

Well, that should cover all the things about Perona; this should make up the recent lack of activity in this thread from me…

Sorry if it is "long" and stuff, but it just about explains many questions about Perona.

I could add more things to it...

Vanessa, you surely are the BEST DEBATER out there… Just surely the very best!!

Congratulations for emphasizing such a certification bestowed upon you!!

Darkstorm

@Vanessa:

! http://i43.tinypic.com/x38yg9.jpg

That's some good bible bashing.

TLC

What's sad is how much time of his life he wasted writing that monster especially since no one is actually going to read it.

AGOG

@Thousand:

What's sad is how much time of his life he wasted writing that monster especially since no one is actually going to read it.

What's sad is that it only took me like an hour and a half…

Totally "sad" isn't it.

Furthermore, what's sad is that you won't read it and then you'll keep up the "anti-Perona" stuff for no real reason!!

Like that BIBLE BASHING...

In addition, sad thing is that YOU couldn't even try to remake that... You'd obviously fail.

Vanessa

@Darkstorm:

That's some good bible bashing.

MagneticMonkey

This post is legendary and should be reminded next year in the tournament. I've never seen so much text on this forum good stuff i laughed hard AGOG. Vanessas reply to this 23 tailed beast is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Darkstorm

How long before AGOG draws his own fanfic about himself and perona.

MagneticMonkey

rootbeer rootbeer!

AGOG

@MagneticMonkey:

This post is legendary and should be reminded next year in the tournament. I've never seen so much text on this forum good stuff i laughed hard AGOG. Vanessas reply to this 23 tailed beast is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

If you ever want to read it, be my guest…

I won't force you at all.

It doesn't state that Perona would join, just that she has the option of it…

TräshCät

you know the thing is, even if i'd really like perona to join … i somehow wish for her to neeeeeever return to the story again just coz it would be nice for once to not have threads with these kind of posts.

seriously AGOG ... why don't you just give it up. you could have done so much more with the time it took you to write that post.