If the acting is good and they don't get too forcefully corny in trying to emulate cartoon humour I will be very happy to watch this.
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If the acting is good and they don't get too forcefully corny in trying to emulate cartoon humour I will be very happy to watch this.
Part of the charm? of Bakuman was having those overdramatic "WHAT?! this says….!" endings for each chapter.
Looks like a good fit for Eiji Niizuma, but I can't tell who's Hattori.
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Part of the charm? of Bakuman was having those overdramatic "WHAT?! this says….!" endings for each chapter.
Looks like a good fit for Eiji Niizuma, but I can't tell who's Hattori.
Nah what I mean is like, I've seen some dramas adapted from mangas and sometimes for joke scenes they use THE EXACT SCENE from the manga for real life actors with a lot of cgi and it just looks weird.
Example, a guy who falls in love with a girl on first sight, and a cgi cartoon heart beats out of his chest and little cgi hearts float above his head. Sounds okay, but if I showed you the exact scene in question you'd be like Ew, no.
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Basically if they keep the humor to the first half of Bakuman and not the weird crap from the second half of Bakuman.
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Pretty much this^
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I liked the whole of Bakuman. Remind me of the weird crap?
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The voice actress audition arc at the end was pretty silly too. Yes, the love interest had to do SOMETHING since she'd basically already made it by like, volume 5, but… it was still a weird unrealistic as heck arc.
Also, on an art level, the style went from relistic real world... to goofier and cartoonier with more wacky facial expressions in the second half.
I always liked how meta the series was, in that it would describe a storytelling technique in manga, and then actively demonstrate it it the next chapter or two... but at one point they said "you're doing manga, so you should do exaggerated expressions that you can't get anywhere else!" and then... the actual series followed suit. Woulda been fine for a one off couple of goofy expressions, but they continued and escalated till it was pretty silly much of the time.
Don't get me wrong, I love Bakuman, one of my all time favorites, but... it had some weaknesses in the second half.
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I really hated how they treated Takuro in the second half of the manga. He got a kinda proper sendoff…but then they brought him back being way more pathetic than before, just so he could be a very underwhelming comic relief until the end of the series.
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Example, a guy who falls in love with a girl on first sight, and a cgi cartoon heart beats out of his chest and little cgi hearts float above his head. Sounds okay, but if I showed you the exact scene in question you'd be like Ew, no.
Ah. Yeah, that'd be too cartoon-y.
The stupid dog boy arc. .
Wasn't he like the only managaka that didn't even get an ending/resolution? Mashiro and Takagi see him off and then….?
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We are getting two prequel chapters to celebrate the opening of the movie:
Even though they might just be movie hype, I'm pretty excited. Hopefully the flashbacks will include cameos by the series' awesome side characters (Hiramaru and Eiji please!)
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Well… I was planning on giving this thread a little bump before Gokuyuske beat me to it to say that... I recently finished reading Bakuman, and by that I mean the last... 10-ish chapters of the series (which, I will confess, were not very good, but I'll get to that in a little bit) which for some reason I never actually bothered to read... in no small part because I kind of knew they weren't going to be very good but... I decided that in my quest to get back into manga besides One Piece (which means that I'm currently getting back into Toriko, which is awesome and I'll get into World Trigger and Shokugeki no Soma soon enough, soon enough) I had to finish a series that was once well... one of my favorites, even though I know for a lot of other people it doesn't have much significance.
I don't know why Bakuman always struck such a chord with me that it didn't strike for some other people, but I imagine it has something to do with the fact that I'm an aspiring writer, even though I'm not very good one, and I'm even studying at film school right now to write for film and television. And so... while that is fairly different from the kind of writing that Mashiro and Takagi were doing in Bakuman, it still was similar enough to what they were doing and my love for manga and anime back then, and even now to some degree with it still being a major influence on a lot of my work, that I found those two characters and most of their supporting cast to be incredibly relatable for me. There was just something about seeing Mashiro and Takagi figure out what kind of story they wanted to tell, what kind of manga they wanted to write, what their strengths and weaknesses were, and being willing to keep writing and following their dreams even when it seemed completely hopeless that... well I'd almost never really seen my own dreams and my own trials and tribulations of being an aspiring writer captured so perfectly in fiction, both Eastern or Western as a matter of fact. And so in that regard... when Bakuman was at its best I absolutely loved it.
Also, and while I hate to evoke Robby Bevard's name in my own posts because, well... he's a far better poster then I ever was and probably always will be but I digress, but I completely agreed with him when he said it was his 2nd favorite current manga series after One Piece, because of how relatable he found it to be as a professional comics writer himself. I don't think I'd have gone so far as to call it my 2nd favorite current manga series, it was definitely always one of my favorites, even though I sort of caught the series at its tail end in terms of quality (I think I got into it right around the start of the first Nanamine arc which... started off oh so promisingly but really didn't pan out all that well... Oh the memories) because I was so happy Ohba and Obata decided to actually talk about the manga industry from an insider's perspective, which I wish more writers, in all sorts of industries were willing to do.
Which brings me to the last 10 chapters of the series which were... well a fairly weak ending, in no small part because the Mashiro and Azuki "romance" just does not work… I mean, I think that it's already sort of been discussed at length why Mashiro and Azuki's relationship doesn't work (the short answer is because... they never talk to each other or interact really) but I'll just say that reading those last 10-ish chapters, which were almost entirely focused on Mashiro and Azuki... I was really, really trying to understand why I'm supposed to like this "romance"... I swear to God I was... I really wanted to find a way to understand how this relationship works, and indeed I can understand how Ohba was trying to make this work as a sort of "geek wish fulfillment", which isn't necessarily a bad thing... that after all the hard work Mashiro put into his career as a mangaka, the idea that he'd be "rewarded" with the beautiful girl of his dreams (although there are some very misogynistic implications to that which... I choose not to discuss right now, although it's actually sadly very common in a lot of fiction.)
I mean I hate to say it but on some level I can see how that might have been an appealing ending... certainly I understand that we all have our dreams, and for must of us, one of those dreams is to find true love (believe me I know that) but... I still just can't get into the Mashiro/Azuki "romance" because... as much as Ohba and Obata try to make it sweet I keep thinking to myself "They never really had any scenes together... it just doesn't work..." and indeed that inability to shake that feeling kind of made the last chapters of Bakuman fairly disappointing. They don't ruin the series for me (I know they did for some other people... like TLC... oh his commentary on that series was so incredibly entertaining for all the right and wrong reasons) and I still think of it as one of the better mangas that I've read but... I can't deny it had some flaws that I think made it difficult for some people to get into, unless the subject matter was intrinsically appealing for them, like it was for me.
But... in spite of all that, it's still a good read, and recommended but... if I were to judge the manga by only its last 10 chapters I would... not be very high on it. So part of me wonders if I shouldn't have bothered reading it but... I also still read Bleach and Fairy Tail every week so... I can't really even regret reading the weaker moments of Bakuman all that much...
I will say though that I think by far my favorite moment of all of this Bakuman thread was TLC's reaction to the final chapter of Bakuman all those years ago where... he decided to start a Tumblr in reaction to how much he hated the ending (a Tumblr which I've actually read some of... for better or worse...) And I just love how, keep in mind this was around the same time that Negima ended in 5 chapters when it still had like 2 or 3 years worth more story to tell... which was very disappointing for all involved, including myself because it was in fact one of the better Shonen manga I'd read in my lifetime as a manga reader... but to TLC it was pretty much a life-shattering catastrophe... because he'd been the guy who'd build Negima up to everyone as this amazing manga that was the best Shonen currently running, save for One Piece (though I would agree that for a while, those words are important, it was one of the best).And then… it crapped out at the end with one of the more disappointing endings in recent Shonen memory. And... in Ken Akamatsu's defense, it wasn't really his own fault but... it still just made it so that now TLC, who keep in mind had always bashed other people for having "lesser opinions" then other people (as in... him) kind of made a giant ass of himself by going on and on about how great this series was and how crappy other series that people liked were... and Negima looked pretty damn crappy now given how disappointing and unceremonious its own ending was. I mean... if you weren't here for that, then I really just can't stress how fucking hilarious that was... for those of us knew TLC well, and considered him one of our best and most entertaining posters, for all the right and wrong reasons.
I mean, as an aside I would say that I would still ultimately recommend Negima because... the middle part of that manga really is quite excellent... especially the School Festival and Magical World arcs, which are among my favorite Shonen arcs of all time. But keep in mind that the Zabuza, Chunin Exams and even, God help me, Sasuke Retrieval arcs from Naruto, are also among my favorite Shonen arcs of all time so... make of that what you will, with regards as to where Negima ranks ultimately in the pantheon of Shonen and manga. It has great moments, just like Naruto, but it also had a lot of really stupid and disappointing moments, just like Naruto, and overall at the end of it you feel a certain sense of disappointment and a bad taste in your mouth at how so much potential was ultimately squandered by the end of it... just like Naruto... And it's freaking hilarious to me how in 2012, TLC realized he was putting this series on a pedestal when it really didn't deserve it anymore... And that was oh so satisfying, for all of us who had gotten annoyed by what an arrogant jagoff he'd acted like for such an extensive period of time to other people with different opinions... I mean, I really can't stress enough how satisfying that was.
So... anyway, back to Bakuman, sorry I know that was a tangent but I really did need to savor that moment because I never really got to it before lol. But, this moment made it so that when TLC started his Tumblr over his anger at the Bakuman finale, and not the Negima finale, people were just kind of like "Why are you so angry about Bakuman? I'd think Negima would be the thing that would create this incredible rage in you that would make you want to start a Tumblr? You were way more of a fan of that series?" His response was just that the Bakuman finale made him angry, but the Negima finale just made him kind of sad and depressed... it didn't give him the furious and righteous anger needed to start a Tumblr.
That does make sense, but I will say that I found Negima's finale to still be much worse then the Bakuman finale because... as much as I disliked the final chapter of Bakuman... it was still, quite sadly, the ending that Ohba and Obata had been setting up since, basically the beginning of the series. So it was annoying, but it did make sense given the kind of series Bakuman had been for all those years... Negima's ending was definitely not the ending that Akamatsu originally wanted, just the ending that Akamatsu had to improvise on the spot so his series wasn't censored or taken out of his control (which, again, I kind of respect, but it was still very disappointing). But either way… Negima's ending was kind of sad for those of us who liked it (especially TLC in case you couldn't tell, who was literally the biggest Negima fanboy I'd ever seen. Literally.)
But anyway Negima, and Bakuman more importantly, are still pretty good reads, and thank you very much Bakuman for all the great memories that I waxed about nostalgically earlier before descending into a tangent of waxing nostalgically about how much I laughed and laughed and laughed at how TLC one of the most arrogant posters on the entire site, made a complete laughingstock of himself by his own beloved Akamatsu deciding to shoot his own manga in the foot. That's still hilarious to me, and now that I'm back on Arlong Park after about three years, I decided to remember that glorious, glorious moment in the forum's history, that will always be one of my very favorites. You may say that it's kind of mean for me to mock TLC so much... and it kind of is but... considering what a narcissist he always was and how mean he was to other people who liked things he didn't like... I think that it's completely appropriate that we laugh at him for his most humiliating moment. Take it away Nelson!
Sorry I had to… someone's gotta laugh at him and beat the dead horse some more. :ninja:
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@Kareem:
Well… I was planning on giving this thread a little bump before Gokuyuske beat me to it to say that... I recently finished reading Bakuman, and by that I mean the last... 10-ish chapters of the series (which, I will confess, were not very good, but I'll get to that in a little bit) which for some reason I never actually bothered to read... in no small part because I kind of knew they weren't going to be very good but... I decided that in my quest to get back into manga besides One Piece (which means that I'm currently getting back into Toriko, which is awesome and I'll get into World Trigger and Shokugeki no Soma soon enough, soon enough) I had to finish a series that was once well... one of my favorites, even though I know for a lot of other people it doesn't have much significance.
I don't know why Bakuman always struck such a chord with me that it didn't strike for some other people, but I imagine it has something to do with the fact that I'm an aspiring writer, even though I'm not very good one, and I'm even studying at film school right now to write for film and television. And so... while that is fairly different from the kind of writing that Mashiro and Takagi were doing in Bakuman, it still was similar enough to what they were doing and my love for manga and anime back then, and even now to some degree with it still being a major influence on a lot of my work, that I found those two characters and most of their supporting cast to be incredibly relatable for me. There was just something about seeing Mashiro and Takagi figure out what kind of story they wanted to tell, what kind of manga they wanted to write, what their strengths and weaknesses were, and being willing to keep writing and following their dreams even when it seemed completely hopeless that... well I'd almost never really seen my own dreams and my own trials and tribulations of being an aspiring writer captured so perfectly in fiction, both Eastern or Western as a matter of fact. And so in that regard... when Bakuman was at its best I absolutely loved it.
Also, and while I hate to evoke Robby Bevard's name in my own posts because, well... he's a far better poster then I ever was and probably always will be but I digress, but I completely agreed with him when he said it was his 2nd favorite current manga series after One Piece, because of how relatable he found it to be as a professional comics writer himself. I don't think I'd have gone so far as to call it my 2nd favorite current manga series, it was definitely always one of my favorites, even though I sort of caught the series at its tail end in terms of quality (I think I got into it right around the start of the first Nanamine arc which... started off oh so promisingly but really didn't pan out all that well... Oh the memories) because I was so happy Ohba and Obata decided to actually talk about the manga industry from an insider's perspective, which I wish more writers, in all sorts of industries were willing to do.
Which brings me to the last 10 chapters of the series which were... well a fairly weak ending, in no small part because the Mashiro and Azuki "romance" just does not work… I mean, I think that it's already sort of been discussed at length why Mashiro and Azuki's relationship doesn't work (the short answer is because... they never talk to each other or interact really) but I'll just say that reading those last 10-ish chapters, which were almost entirely focused on Mashiro and Azuki... I was really, really trying to understand why I'm supposed to like this "romance"... I swear to God I was... I really wanted to find a way to understand how this relationship works, and indeed I can understand how Ohba was trying to make this work as a sort of "geek wish fulfillment", which isn't necessarily a bad thing... that after all the hard work Mashiro put into his career as a mangaka, the idea that he'd be "rewarded" with the beautiful girl of his dreams (although there are some very misogynistic implications to that which... I choose not to discuss right now, although it's actually sadly very common in a lot of fiction.)
I mean I hate to say it but on some level I can see how that might have been an appealing ending... certainly I understand that we all have our dreams, and for must of us, one of those dreams is to find true love (believe me I know that) but... I still just can't get into the Mashiro/Azuki "romance" because... as much as Ohba and Obata try to make it sweet I keep thinking to myself "They never really had any scenes together... it just doesn't work..." and indeed that inability to shake that feeling kind of made the last chapters of Bakuman fairly disappointing. They don't ruin the series for me (I know they did for some other people... like TLC... oh his commentary on that series was so incredibly entertaining for all the right and wrong reasons) and I still think of it as one of the better mangas that I've read but... I can't deny it had some flaws that I think made it difficult for some people to get into, unless the subject matter was intrinsically appealing for them, like it was for me.
But... in spite of all that, it's still a good read, and recommended but... if I were to judge the manga by only its last 10 chapters I would... not be very high on it. So part of me wonders if I shouldn't have bothered reading it but... I also still read Bleach and Fairy Tail every week so... I can't really even regret reading the weaker moments of Bakuman all that much...
I will say though that I think by far my favorite moment of all of this Bakuman thread was TLC's reaction to the final chapter of Bakuman all those years ago where... he decided to start a Tumblr in reaction to how much he hated the ending (a Tumblr which I've actually read some of... for better or worse...) And I just love how, keep in mind this was around the same time that Negima ended in 5 chapters when it still had like 2 or 3 years worth more story to tell... which was very disappointing for all involved, including myself because it was in fact one of the better Shonen manga I'd read in my lifetime as a manga reader... but to TLC it was pretty much a life-shattering catastrophe... because he'd been the guy who'd build Negima up to everyone as this amazing manga that was the best Shonen currently running, save for One Piece (though I would agree that for a while, those words are important, it was one of the best).And then… it crapped out at the end with one of the more disappointing endings in recent Shonen memory. And... in Ken Akamatsu's defense, it wasn't really his own fault but... it still just made it so that now TLC, who keep in mind had always bashed other people for having "lesser opinions" then other people (as in... him) kind of made a giant ass of himself by going on and on about how great this series was and how crappy other series that people liked were... and Negima looked pretty damn crappy now given how disappointing and unceremonious its own ending was. I mean... if you weren't here for that, then I really just can't stress how fucking hilarious that was... for those of us knew TLC well, and considered him one of our best and most entertaining posters, for all the right and wrong reasons.
I mean, as an aside I would say that I would still ultimately recommend Negima because... the middle part of that manga really is quite excellent... especially the School Festival and Magical World arcs, which are among my favorite Shonen arcs of all time. But keep in mind that the Zabuza, Chunin Exams and even, God help me, Sasuke Retrieval arcs from Naruto, are also among my favorite Shonen arcs of all time so... make of that what you will, with regards as to where Negima ranks ultimately in the pantheon of Shonen and manga. It has great moments, just like Naruto, but it also had a lot of really stupid and disappointing moments, just like Naruto, and overall at the end of it you feel a certain sense of disappointment and a bad taste in your mouth at how so much potential was ultimately squandered by the end of it... just like Naruto... And it's freaking hilarious to me how in 2012, TLC realized he was putting this series on a pedestal when it really didn't deserve it anymore... And that was oh so satisfying, for all of us who had gotten annoyed by what an arrogant jagoff he'd acted like for such an extensive period of time to other people with different opinions... I mean, I really can't stress enough how satisfying that was.
So... anyway, back to Bakuman, sorry I know that was a tangent but I really did need to savor that moment because I never really got to it before lol. But, this moment made it so that when TLC started his Tumblr over his anger at the Bakuman finale, and not the Negima finale, people were just kind of like "Why are you so angry about Bakuman? I'd think Negima would be the thing that would create this incredible rage in you that would make you want to start a Tumblr? You were way more of a fan of that series?" His response was just that the Bakuman finale made him angry, but the Negima finale just made him kind of sad and depressed... it didn't give him the furious and righteous anger needed to start a Tumblr.
That does make sense, but I will say that I found Negima's finale to still be much worse then the Bakuman finale because... as much as I disliked the final chapter of Bakuman... it was still, quite sadly, the ending that Ohba and Obata had been setting up since, basically the beginning of the series. So it was annoying, but it did make sense given the kind of series Bakuman had been for all those years... Negima's ending was definitely not the ending that Akamatsu originally wanted, just the ending that Akamatsu had to improvise on the spot so his series wasn't censored or taken out of his control (which, again, I kind of respect, but it was still very disappointing). But either way… Negima's ending was kind of sad for those of us who liked it (especially TLC in case you couldn't tell, who was literally the biggest Negima fanboy I'd ever seen. Literally.)
But anyway Negima, and Bakuman more importantly, are still pretty good reads, and thank you very much Bakuman for all the great memories that I waxed about nostalgically earlier before descending into a tangent of waxing nostalgically about how much I laughed and laughed and laughed at how TLC one of the most arrogant posters on the entire site, made a complete laughingstock of himself by his own beloved Akamatsu deciding to shoot his own manga in the foot. That's still hilarious to me, and now that I'm back on Arlong Park after about three years, I decided to remember that glorious, glorious moment in the forum's history, that will always be one of my very favorites. You may say that it's kind of mean for me to mock TLC so much... and it kind of is but... considering what a narcissist he always was and how mean he was to other people who liked things he didn't like... I think that it's completely appropriate that we laugh at him for his most humiliating moment. Take it away Nelson!
Sorry I had to… someone's gotta laugh at him and beat the dead horse some more. :ninja:
I'm sorry, what the fuck? And you were actually a member I never had any gripes with and you come back and the first thing you do is this weird, uncalled for (and very outdated) roasting? What?
Two more things.
1. Yes, I hated Bakuman and still do, I think the main relationship is awful, poorly written and misogynistic in how it glorifies women being pure virgins and I don't care how much it paints in pretty "but it's their dream" colors. But whatever, people like what they like but I stand by this and even most people who like the series agree the relationship is weak INCLUDING yourself.
2. How does Akamatsu fucking up his own series make me a clown exactly? Did I own Negima? Because I really loved it? Did everyone else who love it get clowned? Is every manga/film/book/series/game that I like end horribly part of a conspiracy to clown me? Wow, it's a huge ass conspiracy then given how much shit I've seen that ended disappointingly. What a stupid remark.
I'm not gonna deny that I've had a checkered past on this forum but I like to think I've chilled out, try my best to hold my tongue and engage as respectfully as I can with my fellow members. I'm certainly not going to do that with asshats who try for uncalled for public humiliation though. What a poor return impression you've made, dick.
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I'm sorry, what the fuck? And you were actually a member I never had any gripes with and you come back and the first thing you do is this weird, uncalled for (and very outdated) roasting? What?
Two more things.
1. Yes, I hated Bakuman and still do, I think the main relationship is awful, poorly written and misogynistic in how it glorifies women being pure virgins and I don't care how much it paints in pretty "but it's their dream" colors. But whatever, people like what they like but I stand by this and even most people who like the series agree the relationship is weak INCLUDING yourself.
2. How does Akamatsu fucking up his own series make me a clown exactly? Did I own Negima? Because I really loved it? Did everyone else who love it get clowned? Is every manga/film/book/series/game that I like end horribly part of a conspiracy to clown me? Wow, it's a huge ass conspiracy then given how much shit I've seen that ended disappointingly. What a stupid remark.
I'm not gonna deny that I've had a checkered past on this forum but I like to think I've chilled out, try my best to hold my tongue and engage as respectfully as I can with my fellow members. I'm certainly not going to do that with asshats who try for uncalled for public humiliation though. What a poor return impression you've made, dick.
He he he. Sorry, sorry, maybe a little bit uncalled for but… I just found it funny okay? And I know a lot of other people who find it funny. I'm not the only one who laughs at you behind your back about that you know? Other people have expressed in private that they found it funny as well, given how overly obsessed you were with that series to the point that everyone who knew you called you "The guy who really liked Negima... a lot...". So no it's really not that stupid of a remark given how other people share that feeling and will still not let you live that down.
And yeah it was kind of dickish... but again, against somebody who himself acted like a dick many times to other people for having "inferior opinions" and who... while I admit I liked you when I was younger and less experienced, over time I found you to be rather smug and full of yourself so... I guess I decided it needed to be said. I just... really didn't like seeing you going around bashing other people for liking series like Fairy Tail... and I know a lot of other people didn't either even though they (and myself actually) didn't even really like Fairy Tail. My general opinion of you, which is one that a lot of people share from what I can tell, is that while you do have good taste, you seem to believe that everyone who doesn't share your opinion is "objectively wrong" even if they themselves might have perfectly legit reasons for liking or not liking things that you do or don't like.
Your general thought process is that "Bad taste=Bad person" and a lot of people on this forum, including myself obviously, really kind of find you insufferable because of that. I know many people, both in real life and online, who I care about deeply who like things that I think are godawful (such as Fairy Tail, which my beloved best friend sadly likes… sadly). But... I don't care, that's there opinion and that's none of my business. It might be kind of sad that that's there opinion but... whatever I just leave it alone because I have better things to do with my life. Not so much with you, where you always seemed to just love bashing people for having different opinions then you thinking that they were somehow less then you because they liked things you didn't.
And again... a lot of people shared this opinion with me about you... a lot of people said that "TLC himself is proof that Good taste doesn't equal good quality person… since he has very good taste but is himself kind of an insufferable asshole". I mean... the thing that people like you don't get is that... being smart doesn't really matter if you act like an asshole most of the time. I know many people who like horrible, horrible things but... they're nice people and that's what matters to me. I would never stop being friends with somebody because they liked something that was crap. I'd much rather be friends with someone who was dumb but nice, then somebody who was smart but an asshole.
I mean, a lot of people just kind of got fed up with your "checkered past" and you going around bashing people for their tastes so... a lot of us still find it hilarious that your super special awesome amazing series got canceled abruptly because it meant that while you were bashing other people for their opinions all those years, your own series that... you may say you didn't own it but you sure as Hell acted like you owned it… had one of the worst and most abrupt endings in recent memory.
Sorry man just... a lot of us still don't really like you all that much and the main reason I think people keep you around is because you do in fact provide interesting discussions, even if you're always really arrogant. I just decided that somebody needed to call you out on it, because I still find it funny even after three years honestly. Also... this isn't my first post after 3 years... I've actually been posting semi-regularly for about a month or two now. Sorry if you think it's a poor return impression but... that's just you honestly, if you paid attention to some of the other discussion threads, like the Bleach thread, people have already noticed that I've been back for a month now and some people were very happy about it. Which made me glad... I've never thought of myself as a very good poster honestly, but some other people think I am, which I guess I'll take the compliments even though I myself don't agree with them. I always think that if you listen to people's compliments about yourself it gets to your head, like that's what happened with me a little bit and I don't think that was a good thing. So whatever, some people will like me, some people won't, I'll just be happy for the people that do like me.
And I'm going to be honest with you... I don't want to be a dick to you... I just remembered getting pissed off at some of the things you said and did to people in the Fairy Tail thread and I bit my tongue because I didn't want to get into an argument. But I've started to realize now that I'm back on this forum after three years that I'm not ever going to let anybody intimidate me. If I see bullshit coming from somebody I'm going to call them out on it from now on. So I just called you out on your own bullshit from three years back even though... I will admit I don't know how the past three years have been... you're right maybe you've gotten better, but I'm still new here after being gone a long time and I was just reminiscing about what a fuss you made in various threads, including this one.
I just found it funny is all, because those are some of my cherished memories of this forum and I decided to bring up how you were once someone who I respected and admired but... I later on realized that I was probably wrong to do that. I wasn't really trying to "publicly humiliate" you per say... more just mentioning how I decided I no longer thought of you as a poster I liked anymore... because I remember how people would mention their beefs with you and how I didn't understand why at first but... later on I kind of did. For all of the reasons above. That's it. Sorry man... really wasn't trying to put you on the spot there I just... realized I was wrong to have admired you in the past. And if... somebody who used to look up to you and used to think you were a really awesome poster well... if they later realized they were wrong because of the many times you shat on other people for their opinions, which goes against all my principals, then... well maybe just maybe the problem is you. Mkay?
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Thousand Lion-kun might have started many needlessly stubborn arguments, but I do not remember him ever attacking someone with a thinly veiled tl;dr review over a three year old grudge.
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Dude, I don't know where the fuck this came from with you but you're not making a good impression on calling somebody out and bringing up shit that's years old for no fucking reason. I don't know where you think you get off a) speaking for the "majority", b) thinking it's okay to make posts with the intent of hurting people's feelings, c)be a judgmental prick and d)calling me an arrogant condescending dick when you're behaving no better right now but it's not fucking appreciated.
Like yeah, I saw you around thinking hey, I liked this guy, glad to see him come back. Didn't know he was frozen in the stone age and was apparently bearing a grudge even though we never had bad words with each other?
It's been three fucking years, get with the program.
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What the hell Kareem? That's totally uncalled for random attacking of someone. However much you're burying it in a giant wall of text that's… not cool.
Keep in mind, I also loved Negima up until its terrible end and defended it regularly as well.
Bakuman... yeah, the relationship was always the weakest part. The whole thing would have been made mountains easier and more believable if it had just been a long distance relationship rather than something where they willfully hid from each other. (Like she goes off to college or something and for a career that requires a long time like doctor or something) Because only talking through texts and cheering each other on and getting by with what you can and only seeing each other once in a blue moon... those are sucky things LD relationships just have to deal with as par for the course... to have it be something they just choose to do and sort of not actually talk to each other intentionally? That's just... still weird and unhealthy even to this day. (And without backtracking to check I'm sure I defended the ending quite a bit overall but it was still kind of weak in general.)
But at the end of the day, I still love the series as a whole. But I'm moving in a week, and its one of the things I[m leaving behind in storage. I'd really like to bring it, but its just not got that priority or need to it. The creativity sessions and looking into the production was always top notch, as were the crew of regulars... but there was a lot of awful stuff in there too... and yeah, the sexism while forgivable up to a point as a "seen through a guy's POV" story, was pretty bad after a while... especially after tomboy Kaya just sort of became a housewife.
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With regards to Bakuman in general, well I've always loved it. Yeah I don't really care for the Miho/Mashiro thing either but the reason for that is the same reason I can not care and still like the manga: it really isn't very important to the series. Sure it's framed as the ultimate goal of the protagonist but eh, I pretty much just pretended his goal was to get an anime and the series was great. Another trick you can use is to pretend that Takagi and Mashiro are side characters and that the amazing cast of other characters in the series are the main characters. The main duo is just so boring.
With regard to the new chapter, Spoiler tag in case people haven't read it yet
! New chapter and was pretty boring to be honest. Hiramaru showed up and made things slightly interesting but it turns out that writing a chapter about a bored middle schooler is really boring. Also I don't find it very believable that Takagi gets the best grades without studying at all, he just never comes across as very smart during the series.
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You can tell these special chapters were made only because of editorial mandate.
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I can't tell whether this manga is being serious about Takagi's emo musings. I mean, the philosophy of wanting to find a sincere and true friend is nice, but you're taking this philosophy up to eleven when you basically tell your friends that "you're not really a true friend because you won't die for me!". What the heck dude. No one has really called him out on that so I guess they're just portraying Takagi as a really cool kid, like in Bleach.
And I'm guessing that the reason why Takagi flipped out at his mother is that she told him to study. I don't remember any background or context on this issue, but out of context it really looks more like a tantrum than a man following his dream. (This 13 year old idea is starting to look really stupid isn't it)
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Maybe mashiro's will be better?
Also, you don't call these people who think "you aren't a true friend" on their bullshit, they are letting you know that you don't have to be their best friend and that you should get some distance from them. You know, to not die. If they didn't value shouto friendship enough to be bothered by it, whatever. We know that the duo is emotionally unstable for a while.
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Hiramaru was always the best. Young Niizuma was cute. Young yankee Fukuda was nowhere to see. So whatever.
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You can tell these special chapters were made only because of editorial mandate.
They make no secret out of it.
And I'm guessing that the reason why Takagi flipped out at his mother is that she told him to study. I don't remember any background or context on this issue, but out of context it really looks more like a tantrum than a man following his dream. (This 13 year old idea is starting to look really stupid isn't it)
Takagi talked about his background in chapter 8 when they were going to Shueisha office for the first time.
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Man that second special chapter only reminded me how much of a nothing character Miho was. To emphasize that in the 10 seconds it took to go from the chapter to this page I immediately forgot her name.
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Wait, Mashiro was actually right about Shuuto having a crush on Miho?
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The main duo is just so boring.
so I guess they're just portraying Takagi as a really cool kid, like in Bleach.
Takagi was one of my favorites because he had the energy, the ideas, this smart yet slightly goofy kid who convinced Mashiro to even take up the manga business. And his relationship with Kaya was always a lot more fun and interesting to watch than Miho and Mashro.
If we're talking favorites, it's Hiramaru. Like….no contest. Hiramaru > all
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Hattori is hands down the best one.
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I started reading Bakuman about a week ago, and I'm up to volume 3.
I really enjoy it, but doesn't it get kind of repetitive ?
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No. New characters show up, and there's changing personal dynamics. The series is always at its strongest when discussing creative theory and techniques, and making comics is such a vast field full of things that it remain pretty interesting throughout.
Some of the subplots however… not so much.
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Besides most of it's faults are easy to ignore in marathon format.
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Murata, the artist of Eyeshield and One Punch Man redraw, referenced Bakuman during one of his live stream while drawing the cover for book 10 of OPM.
He was over come with joy when Eyeshield was mentioned in the Bakuman special, and said he contacted Gamou-sensei to give thanks.
Of course this was sort of a slip up, and he quickly followed up saying eh, not sure why I thanked Gamou sensei, obviously I should have been thanking Ohba sensei.
Hahaha, just yet another evidence to add to the pile of evidences.
I wonder if Shuueisha and Ohba will ever come out or gonna keep playing this game till the end of time.
