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Naruto Discussion V [Re-Re-Redux]
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@dirt:
I have taken a stroll through a manga these past two days. I smiled almost the very moment I opened the first chapter. The art was refreshing and beautiful, and the characters were given tons of spotlight. I could almost see their futures etched out already. And basic as the plots were, they were done so well and without hitch that I almost thought I was in heaven. And oh, those unobvious plot twists.
There was once upon a time that Kishimoto stood in the ranks with authors like Oda in story telling.
It was a manga that lasted only 217 chapters.
Its name was Naruto.
It was never that good. It had concepts, whether in the Zabuza arc or the Chuunin exam, but it fell apart way earlier than people realize. Now…well, same as before: promise, concepts, but nothing spectacular.
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For me at least, it peaked during the Zabuza arc.
It had its ups and downs afterwards, but was still enjoyable as a whole until Part 2 started up.
Then it turned into the shit we all know today.
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@Tokoro:
It was never that good. It had concepts, whether in the Zabuza arc or the Chuunin exam, but it fell apart way earlier than people realize. Now…well, same as before: promise, concepts, but nothing spectacular.
Agreed. The concept sounded promising but it actually never lived up to their hype. The concept of the ninja missions struck like the Naruto counterpart of making harbour at all kinds of different places in One Piece. But that got ditched pretty quick and we've been following the same main plot without any real side adventures.
True in One Piece the main plot also is Luffy becoming the Pirate King, but at least there's many different sub-plots respectively sub-adventures. Sadly Naruto was missing exactly that even in the early days.
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@Tokoro:
But the thing is, everyone did say it. It was suspicious to a lot of people that Danzou had that bandage and some did speculate Sharingan. It isn't that hard to telegraph Kishi's plot twists…at least compared to Oda who knows what he's doing and Kubo who just does something random and shocks fanbases.
Yes it was speculated. Just like many things about One peice is spoecualted that a few people get right, but know everyone in the world said so. Why did people get
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Agreed. The concept sounded promising but it actually never lived up to their hype. The concept of the ninja missions struck like the Naruto counterpart of making harbour at all kinds of different places in One Piece. But that got ditched pretty quick and we've been following the same main plot without any real side adventures.
True in One Piece the main plot also is Luffy becoming the Pirate King, but at least there's many different sub-plots respectively sub-adventures. Sadly Naruto was missing exactly that even in the early days.
Very early in, Naruto complained that "all we do is rescue dogs and fetch quests and stuff, D rank missions. When do we get to do A rank?" Even though… those smaller scale missions actually sounded more interesting fun and character developing.
But then, I tend to like the premise of the filler episodes in the anime focusing on subplots and sidecharacters, even when the actual timing or execution in the filler sucks. (The promise isn't the same as the delivery...)
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A quick question, though a bit off topic - did naruto ever use "that" jutsu that jiraiya told him was forbidden just after the timeskip?
I'd re-read the chapters, but I don't have a stiff drink to hand.
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Was that the four-tails mode?
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4 tails was "that" jutsu.
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Thanks guys. That's…..really lame.
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@dirt:
I have taken a stroll through a manga these past two days. I smiled almost the very moment I opened the first chapter. The art was refreshing and beautiful, and the characters were given tons of spotlight. I could almost see their futures etched out already. And basic as the plots were, they were done so well and without hitch that I almost thought I was in heaven. And oh, those unobvious plot twists.
There was once upon a time that Kishimoto stood in the ranks with authors like Oda in story telling.
It was a manga that lasted only 217 chapters.
Its name was Naruto.
I'm gonna go cry now, and eat pizza.
The only thing that has been bad is the pacing. The sasuke arc was great,Jman fight with Pain was great,Kilerbee is amazing etc… I just didn't like how they killed off the long time villian,Oro, in such a stupid way and they need more of Lee,Gai, and neji. We just need some more of the rookie 12 to fight except Sakura. I admit it isn't has consistant has the first 200+ chapters, but has been great at certain parts and since Naruto came back it's been great. ODa isn't any better then Kishi sorry
@Yuugi's:Aside from some small pacing issues during the Nagato flashback (whcih will probably work out smoothly once read in novel format), everything since Naruto returned to the village has been really good, back to the core of the early Manga in fact. And now, we have Kakashi and Yamato escourting Naruto to the Kage summit with Danzô likely in control of the Mist Village and the Rain Village, the Akatsuki, and the Leaf Village. This guy's nearly got the whole world in his palm. And with Sasuke on his way there every big player in the story will be in one dinky ol' room. It's bound to be a huge battle.
Call me an optimist, but if Naruto could smack some sense into Nagato, he can do so with Sasuke.
Agreed We just need Lee and neji to show up. We have Gaara,kakash, and Yamato. Killerbee will be their etc…
@Tokoro:It was never that good. It had concepts, whether in the Zabuza arc or the Chuunin exam, but it fell apart way earlier than people realize. Now…well, same as before: promise, concepts, but nothing spectacular.
yea whatever:wassat:
@Ivotas:Agreed. The concept sounded promising but it actually never lived up to their hype. The concept of the ninja missions struck like the Naruto counterpart of making harbour at all kinds of different places in One Piece. But that got ditched pretty quick and we've been following the same main plot without any real side adventures.
True in One Piece the main plot also is Luffy becoming the Pirate King, but at least there's many different sub-plots respectively sub-adventures. Sadly Naruto was missing exactly that even in the early days.
??? Naruto main goal was to be Hokage, but yet he hasn't been working towards that since the exams. They have fights all over the ninja world in naruto i don't know what your talking about really.
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Thanks guys. That's…..really lame.
your Lame and why are you rereading something you don't like??:wassat:
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your Lame
In this event, you'd use "You're" instead of "your", wouldn't capitalise the L in "lame" and also you'd probably want to come up with something more interesting. Spread the knowledge among your friends!
and why are you rereading something you don't like??:wassat:
I didn't want to, that's the whole point.
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@robbybevard:
Very early in, Naruto complained that "all we do is rescue dogs and fetch quests and stuff, D rank missions. When do we get to do A rank?" Even though… those smaller scale missions actually sounded more interesting fun and character developing.
But then, I tend to like the premise of the filler episodes in the anime focusing on subplots and sidecharacters, even when the actual timing or execution in the filler sucks. (The promise isn't the same as the delivery...)
Somehow after looking over a bit of Fairy Tail, that seemed to demonstrate what Naruto was lacking in that department: small missions that rapidly become big, character development and all that jazz. (then again I really have just been collecting it so far, only own up to vol. 4 and won't really read it until I finish RAVE first) And personally…the Pt. 1 fillers sort of did that right in some respects in development...even if there were a lot of crummy ones, it did something more to a "mission by mission development" concept.
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In this event, you'd use "You're" instead of "your", wouldn't capitalise the L in "lame" and also you'd probably want to come up with something more interesting. Spread the knowledge among your friends!
I didn't want to, that's the whole point.
Who forcing you to read that lame manga??
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Who forcing you to read that lame manga??
An evil leprechaun sitting on my shoulder.
I call him dave.
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Technically no one knows what "that" jutsu is; we can only speculate that it's one he's done since it's been so long.
Personally I still don't think Naruto's used it yet; and I highly doubt they were talking about the 4-tails since that wasn't a jutsu at all :P
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He's two timing me, the cur.
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The only thing that has been bad is the pacing. The sasuke arc was great,Jman fight with Pain was great,Kilerbee is amazing etc… I just didn't like how they killed off the long time villian,Oro, in such a stupid way and they need more of Lee,Gai, and neji. We just need some more of the rookie 12 to fight except Sakura. I admit it isn't has consistant has the first 200+ chapters, but has been great at certain parts and since Naruto came back it's been great. ODa isn't any better then Kishi sorry
Agreed We just need Lee and neji to show up. We have Gaara,kakash, and Yamato. Killerbee will be their etc...
yea whatever:wassat:
??? Naruto main goal was to be Hokage, but yet he hasn't been working towards that since the exams. They have fights all over the ninja world in naruto i don't know what your talking about really.
your Lame and why are you rereading something you don't like??:wassat:
Who forcing you to read that lame manga??
Nobley defending the honor of Kishimoto.
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@Fiasco.:
Nobley defending the honor of Kishimoto.
Of course he would. Anyone would. If it wasn't for Kishimoto we wouldn't have the punching bag protagonist that is Naruto and his love interest that is Sasugay.
I actually lol'ed at the "Oda isn't any better than Kishi" part.
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ODa isn't any better then Kishi sorry
hmm…. let's do some KICK ASS COMPARISONS!
art: post what you think Kishi's best colorspread is. And I'll post one my favorites from oda.. I promise oda will win.
Now let's look at some plot:
One Piece
! One Piece doesn't really have a good one since it's an adventure manga. That's not really an excuse though. However, it has some great subplots, with the WG conspiracy that's hard to guess, Blackbeard's plan to become pirate king unfolding, What devil fruits are, How can pirates actually fight Logias, etc. It's got a lot going for it. Almost too much to keep up with.
! And along with subplot comes some great memorable characters, who actually can bring some emotion out of their readers. They're never neglected and the best thing is, when Usopp actually was useless, he took as his own duty to LEAVE THE CREW. How awesome is that? A character who is weak has a mental breakdown and makes a selfless decision. Then the stronger characters make him realize that he isn't useless, and that he has a purpose, he can save them with his sniping!
! One Piece is not the only manga to have done that, but it's one in a few.
! You have some really great character development all around, Robin becomes more open and talkative after finding out who her real friends were. Usopp runs away less, and even powered himself up. Zoro got his ass kicked, and broke down crying vowing to never lose again. Awesome.
! You never know what's gonna happen next either, One Piece really is a manga that you can never guess the events of… except that everyone is gonna survive.
! Lack of a strong plot, and character death are the only two gripes I have with the manga.Naruto part 1
! Naruto actually has some plot going, what started off as an adventure manga base plot of "I'm gonna be the strongest ninja ever" evolved into a story about betrayal, war, revenge and how to overcome your inner sorrows to help stop a never ending circle of hatred. However, how this is executed is rather poorly, at the very beginning, Naruto was an outcasted little boy, hated by everyone except Izuka, and the MAIN teachers. However, this quickly gave us a nice inspirational story of how the boy didn't become bitter at the world, in fact, he became motivated. He worked harder than everyone else, and began to succeed making people all over the village eat their words. It was sastifying, though predictable.
! The side characters were great, at the time it's characters made One Piece's characters look 2 dimensional, because Kishi fleshed out 11 characters in such a short time. You could pick one and love one, no matter what your taste was. It gave fans something to cling to. It's a great feeling.
! And then it happened, mid way through the series, Sasuke became more and more depressing, unemotional, and a straight douche bag. As if it weren't bad enough, Naruto goes after Sasuke, but what happens? We get this really shitty and forced "they were friends" past that was never shown until then. I have no problem with this, but the execution is what made it so poor. We're supposed to feel the sorrow of these two friends clashing, but guess what? Sasuke doesn't feel ANYTHING. Does that make him badass, no. It makes Naruto a retard, and Sasuke a jerk. We watched Naruto risk his life for someone who wouldn't even weep at the thought of killing him. AKA Naruto's friend. (though everyone else's fights were okay, besides the giant amount of deus ex machina.)I'm gonna do these in pieces.
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Where the heck is that page from?
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And then it happened, mid way through the series, Sasuke became more and more depressing, unemotional, and a straight douche bag. As if it weren't bad enough, Naruto goes after Sasuke, but what happens? We get this really shitty and forced "they were friends" past that was never shown until then. I have no problem with this, but the execution is what made it so poor. We're supposed to feel the sorrow of these two friends clashing, but guess what? Sasuke doesn't feel ANYTHING. Does that make him badass, no. It makes Naruto a retard, and Sasuke a jerk. We watched Naruto risk his life for someone who wouldn't even weep at the thought of killing him. AKA Naruto's friend. (though everyone else's fights were okay, besides the giant amount of deus ex machina.)
Agreed completely. The whole Naruto-Sasugay chase plot is overwhelmingly stupid that it made me quit Naruto and decided to give One Piece a try.
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Argh, no matter what whenever I go in this topic it is full of nothing but NEGATIVITY. Come on folks, we need to appreciate Masashi Kishimoto for the unintentional comedic genius he is!
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Argh, no matter what whenever I go in this topic it is full of nothing but NEGATIVITY. Come on folks, we need to appreciate Masashi Kishimoto for the unintentional comedic genius he is!
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A few good laughs, but even those are nothing compared to the comedic gold that is One Piece.
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@Yuugi's:
Where the heck is that page from?
Flashback that danzou had when Hanzo told him about his encounter with sasuke.
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Best chap in months just for Naruto getting his ass whopped. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Argh, no matter what whenever I go in this topic it is full of nothing but NEGATIVITY. Come on folks, we need to appreciate Masashi Kishimoto for the unintentional comedic genius he is!
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You must have missed the Dragonball, boobs, pizza, and Captain Planet portion of the show and come in on the Naruto.
Don't worry, it only lasts while spoilers are still fresh, once the chapter is actually out we get back on topic with the other stuff. This thread is usually only Naruto-centric Tuesday-Thursday, more or less.
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@robbybevard:
You must have missed the Dragonball, boobs, pizza, and Captain Planet portion of the show and come in on the Naruto.
Don't worry, it only lasts while spoilers are still fresh, once the chapter is actually out we get back on topic with the other stuff. This thread is usually only Naruto-centric Tuesday-Thursday, more or less.
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^^when did that happen i dont remember that 0.0?
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your Lame and why are you rereading something you don't like??:wassat:
Well, I can relate. I can't stand Naruto and every chapter seems to make me dislike it more. But I've been reading it for years and the series is almost over, so I'm at least going to finish it.
I won't base it here or anything, but like Bleach I just don't like it :P
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@Fiasco.:
Flashback that danzou had when Hanzo told him about his encounter with sasuke.
@Shaman:
^^when did that happen i dont remember that 0.0?
There .
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Well, I can relate. I can't stand Naruto and every chapter seems to make me dislike it more. But I've been reading it for years and the series is almost over, so I'm at least going to finish it.
I won't base it here or anything, but like Bleach I just don't like it :P
You must like it a little because you read it every week. Thats like me watching a tv show every week i hate.fiasco wat the hell??? wat chapter is that?????
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The early Naruto stuff was pretty good and I was actually buying the tanks, but then I just lost interest. I would still like to know how it ends, though. I think that's what he's saying too. I couldn't stand starting a story and not knowing how it ends.
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You must like it a little because you read it every week. Thats like me watching a tv show every week i hate.fiasco wat the hell??? wat chapter is that?????
I forget, after the jiraya pein fight but before pein invasion.
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Does typing "wat" help your typing go any faster? I don't think I could type like that without regretting it after I post .
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You must like it a little because you read it every week. Thats like me watching a tv show every week i hate.fiasco wat the hell??? wat chapter is that?????
Naruto sucks .
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@Yuugi's:
Where the heck is that page from?
i'm sorry how can you not see that it is a fake?
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You must like it a little because you read it every week. Thats like me watching a tv show every week i hate
The early Naruto stuff was pretty good and I was actually buying the tanks, but then I just lost interest. I would still like to know how it ends, though. I think that's what he's saying too. I couldn't stand starting a story and not knowing how it ends.
He pretty much answered it for me; I was content with the series until the terrible Sasuke/Itachi fight, and since then the story has only gone downhill for me. And now looking back, I find the story has been dulling ever since Sasuke left the village. But Kishi has said the story is almost over, and we're clearly in the last arc right now. So I'm going to finish the story even though I don't like the series anymore; even bad closure is still closure.
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He pretty much answered it for me; I was content with the series until the terrible Sasuke/Itachi fight, and since then the story has only gone downhill for me. And now looking back, I find the story has been dulling ever since Sasuke left the village. But Kishi has said the story is almost over, and we're clearly in the last arc right now. So I'm going to finish the story even though I don't like the series anymore; even bad closure is still closure.
Terrible Itachi vs Sasuke fight?? That fight was one of the best fights. GTFO
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Ju GTFO .
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I watch terrible shows every week. (see Heroes)
That shit's an hour long. It helps that we MST3K it. I can spend 3 minutes reading terrible manga also. There are some diamonds in the rough, more so than Heroes.
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I watch terrible shows every week. (see Heroes)
That shit's an hour long. It helps that we MST3K it. I can spend 3 minutes reading terrible manga also. There are some diamonds in the rough, more so than Heroes.
u must like heros somewhat are you would find something else to watch.
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Terrible Itachi vs Sasuke fight?? That fight was one of the best fights. GTFO
umm… CTFD? That was the worst fight in anime history. A fake battle for a few chapters (genjustu), tsukuyomi was turned into a joke (Sasuke beat it by looking at it?), amaterasu wasted on a fake Sasuke, Itachi uses an invisible sword and shield (that he got from... where?) with his buddha to kill Orochimaru.... and then, when he's sure to win... cardiac arrest...
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Terrible Itachi vs Sasuke fight?? That fight was one of the best fights. GTFO
That was probably the worst fight in the entire manga, in both art and actual content.
You seriously have no taste at all.
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…tsukuyomi was turned into a joke (Sasuke beat it by looking at it?), ...
Sasuke's ugly .
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umm… CTFD? That was the worst fight in anime history. A fake battle for a few chapters (genjustu), tsukuyomi was turned into a joke (Sasuke beat it by looking at it?), amaterasu wasted on a fake Sasuke, Itachi uses an invisible sword and shield (that he got from... where?) with his buddha to kill Orochimaru.... and then, when he's sure to win... cardiac arrest...
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HE DIdN'T BEAT IT BY LOOKING at it. LOl Attacks hasd been wasted on logs,clones etc… thw whole series. What the hell are you talking about. Have you been following Naruto. LOL You ask where how Itachi got his sword when people shoot fire balls out of there month and make water appear out of nowhere.:blink: LOL Sure to win??? He looked freaking beat up and he didn't want to win. facepalm