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      ONE PIECE - 491 MQ/HQ RAW (SS)
      ONE PIECE - 491 MQ/HQ RAW (RS)
      ONE PIECE - 491 MQ/HQ RAW (MU)

      Thanks to kylara @ MangeHelpers.

      ONE PIECE - 491 SCANLATION [BINKTOPIA] (Website)
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      ONE PIECE - 491 BINKTOPIA THREAD (<- Thanks & comments for this scanlation go here)

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      ONE PIECE - 491 SCANLATION [BINKTOPIA] (SS)
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      Thanks to blud & the rest of the Binktopia crew!

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          today one exam and one chapter, not a bad day after all

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            Thank you, as always, Battle Franky.

            9/2/2008

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              nice stuff, and binktopia scans are really cool too.

              thanks everybody!

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                Early morning thanks to thee!

                Now, to wait for the inevitible loss of connection before it can fully download. Darn dial-up.

                I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh

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                  the chapter was really funny and entertaining. I loved Zorro loosing his memory.. hihi

                  But who do you think Duval is?

                  Could it be Arlong?

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                    scanlators are so reckless nowadays…. don't even bother with showing the raws

                    ~~ Just Kidding!!!! THANKS for the scans/trans!!!

                    Actually.... I'm still interested in getting the raw for me collection

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                      Wow, an SCANLATION, already? What's going on, this time? O.o WTF?
                      But great chapter, indeed. I hope Duval isn't Cirkies (Bellamy's right hand guy… Look at the fluffy thing hanging around his neck)

                      9/2/2008

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                        I fuckin love it

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                          thanks so much

                          so happy that Hachi'll return

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                            If hachi or w/e his name is was able to get back to the new world be4 luffys crew than it's safe to assume that Arlong or who ever else from that arc was able to get back to the point with that said.

                            I don't like the fact that the saving hachi
                            i don't want hachi on the SHP ship
                            I don't want any fishman to join the crew
                            I want Dupal to join the crew

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                              yahoo! last minute check before bed is always a good idea when you get a new chapter SCANLATED by binktopia no less!! very nice. thanks BF!!

                              hilarious chapter… now let's commence with everyone's opinion on who Duval really is!! morgan? krieg? arlong?

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                                it's not arlong, take a look on the last page at his hand, it looks like humain.
                                it's the pirate from luffy's past

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                                  I have a feeling Duval is going to be ether T-Bone or Arlong. But anyway that was a great chapter to read. Its going to be nice to see Hachi again.

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                                    The Chapter was hilarious.
                                    So who is taking bets on the mask guy? I call Don Krieg but maybe it's someone we actually have never seen before.

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                                      Thank you, thank you, thank you!

                                      Can you poop 😄 ?

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                                        Oh snap! Did you see the necklace that flying fishrider was wearing?! Compare it to the shadow in the Florian Triangle, it's the same thing!

                                        I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh

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                                          Yowza, thanks for the chapter BF and binktopia!^^

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                                            Thx fast scannalation and translation crew, nice job awesome chapter!

                                            ΠΛΑΝΗΤΕΣ [Air Gear 243\. The best. Chapter. Ever.]

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                                              Cool chapter. I laughed so hard at page 3. So many gems there.^^

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                                                Lightened up the picture of iron-mask guy… I can see he is wear a jacket with the chest exposed like Shanks has. There is decoration on his sleeves in the picture where he crushes something, his arms look frail and his hands are small. From the hands, it can be Krieg...

                                                We're lumbered now down to a select few people. The guy is not big built. :wassat:

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                                                  Oooook. So we can see Duval's left hand.
                                                  Morgan's axe hand was his right.
                                                  So Duval is Morgan.

                                                  Well… at least, we know he's not Arlong.

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                                                    Thanks for the scan Binktopia!Some cool chapter & scanlation group we got here.:happy:

                                                    My list of who Duval probably is:
                                                    -Morgan
                                                    -Captain Kuro
                                                    -Don Krieg
                                                    -Wapol
                                                    -Bellamy
                                                    -T-Bone
                                                    -Wanze
                                                    -Nero

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                                                      Thanks for the scan Binktopia!Some cool chapter & scanlation group we got here.:happy:

                                                      My list of who Duval probably is:
                                                      -Morgan
                                                      -Captain Kuro
                                                      -Don Krieg
                                                      -Wapol
                                                      -Bellamy
                                                      -T-Bone
                                                      -Wanze
                                                      -Nero

                                                      I wouldn't list Wapol among them. We know where he is (thanks to his cover arc), and frankly, he seems to be perfectly happy with his new life, and is probably not really mourning his old life.

                                                      Duval said that "someone" on the strawhat pirates ruined his life. You could possibly suggest that it's Hatchi himself, but that seems a little too obvious, plus it doesn't seem like Hatchi really misses his old life. Arlong is a good possibility, cause Luffy did major harm to his ambitions, Morgan is another good chance. I'm betting it's either of these two.

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                                                        Every time I see a shacktown built on water like that I think of the movie waterworld… =P

                                                        has nothing to do with anything. But I'm guesssing they got hatchi in a hanging cage.

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                                                        What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                          What if Duval is after Ussop? It could be Chew (sp??). Don't recall if Chew had hands like Arlong or not but, if he did, that would rule him out.

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                                                          He does have hands like Arlong so that rules him out.

                                                          H T C - Hoje Tive Cá

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                                                            After reading chapter, i think Duval is not after Luffy but after some other SH. It seems a bit to obvious..
                                                            And because it seems to be a while ago since that person ruined his life, i think it probably happened back in east-blue.
                                                            So i'm guessing it has either to do with Nami, Zoro, Usopp or Sanji.
                                                            The fact that Duval doesn't show his face could mean his face was dammaged. And it was probably caused by one of SH then back in east-blue… It could be that merman that Usopp fought. But it doesn't seem logical for him to capture are former nakama. And Hachi would probably recognize his voice. I can't think of anyone else who's suffered some face dammage back then.

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                                                              you know i would rather the masked guy be some random guy we haven't seen yet and holds a grudge with someone on the pirate ship for some random thing they did. either way i hope the strawhats aren't going to spend too much time fighting these kidnapper guys since i want to see fishman island. also those guys like to kidnap people and sell them so don't you think they are gonna want to kidnap brooke? honestly how many talking skeletons are there in the world? chopper is another interesting person on the strawhat crew that will possibly be targeted for kidnapping.

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                                                              After reading chapter, i think Duval is not after Luffy but after some other SH.
                                                              And because it seems to be a while ago since that person ruined his life, i think it probably happened back in east-blue.
                                                              So i'm guessing it has either to do with Nami, Zoro, Usopp or Sanji.
                                                              The fact that Duval doesn't show his face could mean his face was dammaged. And it was probably caused by one of SH then back in east-blue… It could be that merman that Usopp fought. But it doesn't seem logical for him to capture are former nakama. And Hachi would probably recognize his voice. I can't think of anyone else who's suffered some face dammage back then.

                                                              if it's anybody it's probably going to be zoro since he has mentioned killing people in the past and i can see him possibly wrecking some guy before he joined luffy.

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                                                                cool chapter… a new adventure is starting... quite exciting...
                                                                wanna know the armed guys who the hell is...\

                                                                tnx for the scanlation BF as usual

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                                                                  rly hopeful chapter after thriller bark….ffr are just awesome...thx a lot BF😉

                                                                  Unrevealed_Loki/Rocks/Im-san_

                                                                  IslandElbaf/Raftel/GodValley

                                                                  UnresolvedWeevil´s plan/Explaining DFs/Deal with Kuma-Bonney´s past/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan

                                                                  DFWind/Metal/Acid/Liquid/Time-Stop

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                                                                    It could be that merman that Usopp fought.

                                                                    Gaiyae: Usopp hasn't fought any merman.
                                                                    Chuu (or whatever he was called) was a fishman.
                                                                    Infact we haven't seen any mermen at all yet. We have only seen fishmen, an octopuss fishwoman and 2 mermaids.

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                                                                    What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                                      The Flying Fish Gang is one of the coolest things I've ever seen! And this Duval guy sounds like he knows Luffy from his past. Either that, or it's a case of mistaken identidy.

                                                                      Rappin' Chopper:

                                                                      "Yo; I was a reindeer livin' out in 'da snow! But then this old geeza' doctor brought me into his home! After healin' my wounds, I felt real phat. Then, old docta' Hiruk gave me this blingin' hat! My family beat me, shunt me, but it's all tight. Because I'm doin' my doctor remedies all night. I look like freak with my Human Human fruit. But now I'm with some gangsta' pirates who like to steal loot! All the girls like my blue nose. Yeah; it's the way that I get the Record scratching. Usopp's the guy with all 'da glory. He's my main man with all his tight stories. Zolo's Santoryu skills are on ice. You betta' watch out, or you gonna get sliced! Sanji's the cook servin' up the main dish. Don't mess with him, unless that's your wish. Luffy's 'da captain with the straw hat! His Gum Gum skills are real real tight. Vivi's the princess of Alabasta. Now we gotta head there, and we betta' do it faster!"

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                                                                        here you hear it first

                                                                        dupal is after chopper.(or sanji, maybe now is the time for him to shine)

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                                                                          amazing chapter, laughed a lot and good suspense, i too am beginning to think that duval(dupal) is after a strawhat other than luffy, im gonna guess sanji just out of wishful thinking, an arc around him would be awesome, anyway, i am really looking forward to more of this arc, its looking pretty great so far

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                                                                            The biggest twist would be if "the man that ruined" Dupal isn't one of the strawhats. But Dupal need the strawhats either as allies to defeat him or as bait for the one that did.

                                                                            Originally Posted by Ivotas

                                                                            What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                                              Yeah, but that would be a waste of a good cameo. But on the other hand, it'd be nice to see a completely new character.

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                                                                                Wow, scanslated already! Thanks to all who got this.

                                                                                That was such a fun chapter with all that was going on: Paggagg's lament on being "a starfish who thought he was human", everyone forgetting about Kokoro (and more Sanji antics), and the mystery of Duval and the Flying Fish Riders. While it seems like Hatchan will be coming back soon, somehow I'm intrigued that Duval may actually know of the SH and it may be a past villain who wants revenge.

                                                                                Oh, and the new mini arc starts. Looks like we're starting from Enias Lobby, which means I could see the lead as one of the following:

                                                                                -T-Bone: With EL annihilated, the Sea Train line is probably not going there anymore…allowing him to walk the line towards the island.
                                                                                -Blueno: Two words: Air Door. He could easily escape the Buster Call with an Air Door and reappear when the coast is clear.
                                                                                -Fukurou: He wasn't in the Government building when it collapsed and he is rather durable with his Rokushiki so I could see him as a possible survivor/lead.
                                                                                A couple wild cards for the lead: Kaku (the most popular of the CP9 characters so he could be the lead) and Spandam (he's just a tenacious bastard...like a cockroach)

                                                                                Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                                                                                For the first 18 volumes.

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                                                                                  That Dupal thing is going to be something totally unexpected.

                                                                                  We're not gonna see it coming, you'll see

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                                                                                    Gaiyae: Usopp hasn't fought any merman.
                                                                                    Chuu (or whatever he was called) was a fishman.
                                                                                    Infact we haven't seen any mermen at all yet. We have only seen fishmen, an octopuss fishwoman and 2 mermaids.

                                                                                    Sorry, i keep confusing those two 😊

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                                                                                      I don't see anyone else but Arlong making sense as far as potential cameos go. If anyone would hold that much grudge to Luffy, it's him. And his mug being shown briefly as they talked about fishman island back in Water 7 could've easily been foreshadowing. I just can't see anyone else there. 😮

                                                                                      Sure, it's probably "too obvious" and everything… But no one else makes sense. Krieg? Why? "oh my goodness, this straw-hat guy beat me up after I had lost my entire fleet as I tried to take over some crappy restaurant! The woe! He ruined my life so bad!" Yeah right. That's a jolly good excuse. T-Bone? No. Heck, Enel coming down from the moon is more of a possiblity than T-Bone. He was a good-guy marine, right? Why would he go on a kidnapping spree out of nowhere? Seeing that Crocodile is happily in Jail, I'd consider Arlong as the only one who actually had his life ruined, as he'd say. He had huge plans and whatnot and was having it nice and tidy until Luffy came in. But this arises the question of "why would Arlong wear a helmet and crap?". Notorious fishman on the fishman island.

                                                                                      But then again, it surely doesn't have to be a cameo - hence the term "potential" earlier!

                                                                                      But for the sake of lols, I'll say it's Wanze. He's premanently a bishounen now, and wants retribution on Sanji for ruining his looks.

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                                                                                        I'm surprised no one commented on the fish arrow thing. I thought that was kinda cool. Caimie is really growing on me and I think she does have a good personality. My bet is with Duval either being a new character or Krieg.

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                                                                                          I think its safe to rule out Arlong since the flying fish riders are human. OMFG wats if itz sm0k3r !!

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                                                                                            Actually the more I think about it someone in the spoiler thread had suggested Pearl. That might make a bit of sense.

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                                                                                              Brook asking Caimie to lend him money and Luffy again asking if she can poop were just killers.

                                                                                              My theory about Dupal is still that he's not a major character, but rather someone who has been inadvertently hurt by the Strawhats, probably without even them noticing or paying attention. (note that he doesn't name Luffy, but 'that man') They may not even remember him or know him. But we'll see.

                                                                                              "Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see."

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                                                                                                I'm surprised no one commented on the fish arrow thing. I thought that was kinda cool. Caimie is really growing on me and I think she does have a good personality. My bet is with Duval either being a new character or Krieg.

                                                                                                Somehow I had a weird thought that maybe Sanji could coax a mermaid to ask fish about All Blue (since it would be along someone's swimway), but who knows if "mermaid talk" can be used that way.

                                                                                                Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                                                                                                For the first 18 volumes.

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                                                                                                  I don't see anyone else but Arlong making sense as far as potential cameos go. If anyone would hold that much grudge to Luffy, it's him. And his mug being shown briefly as they talked about fishman island back in Water 7 could've easily been foreshadowing. I just can't see anyone else there. 😮

                                                                                                  Sure, it's probably "too obvious" and everything… But no one else makes sense. Krieg? Why? "oh my goodness, this straw-hat guy beat me up after I had lost my entire fleet as I tried to take over some crappy restaurant! The woe! He ruined my life so bad!" Yeah right. That's a jolly good excuse. T-Bone? No. Heck, Enel coming down from the moon is more of a possiblity than T-Bone. He was a good-guy marine, right? Why would he go on a kidnapping spree out of nowhere? Seeing that Crocodile is happily in Jail, I'd consider Arlong as the only one who actually had his life ruined, as he'd say. He had huge plans and whatnot and was having it nice and tidy until Luffy came in. But this arises the question of "why would Arlong wear a helmet and crap?". Notorious fishman on the fishman island.

                                                                                                  But then again, it surely doesn't have to be a cameo - hence the term "potential" earlier!

                                                                                                  You seem to completly ignore Morgan, Buggy, Kuro, Foxy and possibly some more I'v forgotten.

                                                                                                  But for the sake of lols, I'll say it's Wanze. He's premanently a bishounen now, and wants retribution on Sanji for ruining his looks.

                                                                                                  Didn't Wanze get his crappy looks back when Sanji kicked him through the door?
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                                                                                                  What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                                                                    No raw, just a scanslations?

                                                                                                    But thank you to Battle Franky and Binktopia. I'm getting hyped aboutt his arc.

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                                                                                                      Pearl? Seriously. Even if that would be a joke… "He ruined my life". That's a pretty strong sentence. If the guy searches through all passing ships for the SHs, I don't see him being your run-of-the-mill cannon-fodder character. Someone who gets his ass kicked on the run by the SHs hardly had his life ruined by them. Most of the former villains just got put into their places and carried on with their lives after that. If the guy had his life ruined, it has to be something bigger. Hence Arlong. He had his up-and-coming empire totally wrecked by the SHs and ended up with pretty much nothing left.

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                                                                                                      You seem to completly ignore Morgan, Buggy, Kuro, Foxy and possibly some more I'v forgotten.

                                                                                                      Oh ye, Morgan too… Well, he does actually have a shot in my book. After all, he too lost quite a lot. And because we don't know what happened to the man after his boat-journey. If it does turn out to be an upgraded version of him, then we can therefore suppose that even Caroue (however the duck's name was spelled) can become strong enough to fight off Lucchi during an arc or two. I mean come on. Looking back at Morgan now, he'd best serve as a guy who'd just be one among the many flunkies that Chopper punches his way through at some point. >.<

                                                                                                      The other three would join my list of "not enough reason", what with the same story as Krieg's. I don't see Kuro showing up here out of the East Blue (see what I did there?! xo), although he did get quite a bad deal what with several years of planning having been totally messed up. But he was last seen back with his crew, so I'd rule him out. Buggy is doing fine as it is without any unnecessary mystery-masks. Same applies for Foxy.

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                                                                                                      Didn't Wanze get his crappy looks back when Sanji kicked him through the door?

                                                                                                      Yeah, I kinda recalled that… But... Well, it was just for the sake of personal snickers. And as impossible as it was from the beginning, it seemed like a viable candidate. He's with the democrats. :X

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                                                                                                        Thank You…Binktopia......

                                                                                                        something bugging me about da starfish, but not really sure what.....waiting for next chap

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