I guess it makes sense that these weapons are from the Journey of the West, which early Dragonball was based off of. The first thing that came to my mind with the gourd was in that Dragonball filler episode where Goku's traveling on foot as training and he comes across this village terrorized by 2 bikers who have a gourd and can suck people inside.
Naruto Thread IV
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I guess it makes sense that these weapons are from the Journey of the West, which early Dragonball was based off of. The first thing that came to my mind with the gourd was in that Dragonball filler episode where Goku's traveling on foot as training and he comes across this village terrorized by 2 bikers who have a gourd and can suck people inside.
Hm, seems like Kishi is taking ideas from everywhere.
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"Why did she get sucked into the gourd? She didn't say a word."
"It's called cheating. Deal with it."
It's amazing in one chapter, Kishi forgot how a character's powers work, even when they just got revealed in the last one.
And sadly, I actually wish he just pulled some KG's out of his ass instead of this overcomplicated system, even if two gold/silver guys used them in the Monkey King stories.
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There's no continuity or flow to this ''war''. It's just Kishimoto making shit up on the go without any regard for how they should fit in his universe. This feels more like a chain of random events than a well-thought-out, properly strategized battle.
having Kabuto use the hax Resurrection move was the Kiss of Death for this war. It would have been soooo much easier to just stick with Tailed Beasts vs. the Hidden Villages.
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I think it would have been better if Madara got the small villages on his side. The Ninja Alliance obviously doesn't include any of them and I think it would have been easy for Madara to manipulate them to get them on his side (plus with Nagato's and Konan's death he probably could have taken over Ame) to overthrow the 5 Great Ninja Villages.
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Even if he did get another village on his side instead of the zombies, that would still leave the problem of a bunch of people we have no reason to care about battling. He needed to establish the villains beforehand like Oda did.
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This Kin/Gin fight reminds me of the Taboo battle from Yuu Yuu Hakusho.
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Eh…?
What was THAT for a crap chapter?Nice asspull weapons... nice plothole... :getlost:
I don't give a shit of those two brothers, too.And...
No comment.
Orange Asthma Attack
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so i guess dan, kakuzu, hyuuga guy ten ten, chouji dad were not important enough to be shown. is anything they do gonna be on screen?? and the kumo nin vs GIn/kin was not that far from the shore where the fodder battle is taking place and yet kishi made it feel like they were the only ones there and some random zetsu T_T Asthma attack for me
im beginning to realize how bad kishi is getting and every chapter it gets worse, i mean not one single panel has been something impressive to be remembered his art is failing. i have nothing to look forward to now. and kishis art has to be honest gotten incredibly bad at the starting of this arc when you think about it, seriously check out the kage arc and the pain invasion more detail in backgrounds and memorable panels
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Banana fan…
So we got more retcons in this chapter. Apparently the sage of the six paths used these weapons. Must be why he was so powerful. Fighting the Juubi in this way especially... I can even imagine how stupid it must have been.
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Banana fan…
So we got more retcons in this chapter. Apparently the sage of the six paths used these weapons. Must be why he was so powerful. Fighting the Juubi in this way especially... I can even imagine how stupid it must have been.
"Ha, I have captured your soul now beast!"
"Once you say the word you uses the most, your soul is mine, FOREVER!"
10-taled: "…..Rawr?"
SLUUUURP
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Thing is, if it's the word you use most often, shouldn't it be some really common word like "it" or "the"?
Also, yeah, surviving two weeks in the 9-tailed fox's stomach. Bullshit.
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http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/17784904/17
Why are they "revered as the two shining lights" if they tried to kill one of your leaders?
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Can we start calling Naruto the poor mans JJBA?
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Thing is, if it's the word you use most often, shouldn't it be some really common word like "it" or "the"?
Also, yeah, surviving two weeks in the 9-tailed fox's stomach. Bullshit.
Japanesse .
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Can we start calling Naruto the poor mans JJBA?
I'd say the homeless man's.
Um, I'd say probably Sharingan Red on this one. It had some action, but I can't even try to care about Kid & Play and how supposedly powerful they are, how their powers got screwed up in one chapter, how over-convoluted it is, and how, like Khamoloen said, they went from respected to the worst cirminals ever over one chapter. The war is like the trainwreck Bleach's one was, but not quite as guiltly entertaining
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http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/68770608/18
Last panel describes the chapter.
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So lets see…
-People can get powered by the nine tails chakra from being in it's stomach for a little while.
-The sage of the six paths had some rediculous weapons suddenly. That everyone seems to know about.
-Kumo ninja that are white skinned are fucking morons. Which is actually appropriate.
-But man is that guy dumb...no no seriously... you're fighting a guy with a gourd that will suck you in if you speak a word you say a lot.... SOOOOOO what do you think an average ninja would do? Umm... I dunno..... NOT TALK??!!!?!?
-ughh... and don't get me started on just how lame it is to tell a guy named "HOT" that he's being "Hot headed!!!" and for his sister cool... to tell him to "cool down."...no... just no. These guys deserved to die.
-I mean... why even have these two badguys have the nine tailed chakra in the fucking first place? The real danger of them is the weapons they carry!
-Opps, guess you dont? need to say the word to get fucked over? But then why even bother doing the whole spiel in the first place!!!!???! awwwww!damn!
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Can we start calling Naruto the poor mans JJBA?
No, Naruto is the poor man's Avatar. Which is already the poor man's version of something that may not even exist yet, the rich guys are just kinda sitting around waiting.
Which makes Naruto for the absolute fucking destitute.
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You know you've just done an ass pull when you have to make one of your characters say, "it makes sense when you think about it.". Actually, Kishi, it makes more sense when you don't think about it. Also, by that logic, shouldn't that frog in Jiraiya's and now Naruto's stomach be stealing their chakra?
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http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/17784904/17
Why are they "revered as the two shining lights" if they tried to kill one of your leaders?
Perhaps he was a crap leader?
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There are so many things wrong with the Ginkaku bros that I can't even begin to describe it.
They're said to have ambushed a peace meeting between the 2nd Raikage and Tobirama and become infamous Cloud criminals. Then later on they're a part of the Kinkaku force that killed Tobirama in the flashback. So, Cloud criminals are working for the Cloud?
Then last chapter Darui showed great respect for them and called them the 'shining lights'. Then this chapter it's revealed they're hated in Cloud as infamous criminals and everyone is shown to be antagonistic towards them. It's like Kishimoto decided to just make them assholes in between the two chapters.
Kishimoto just doesn't give a crap anymore.
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There are so many things wrong with the Ginkaku bros that I can't even begin to describe it.
They're said to have ambushed a peace meeting between the 2nd Raikage and Tobirama and become infamous Cloud criminals. Then later on they're a part of the Kinkaku force that killed Tobirama in the flashback. So, Cloud criminals are working for the Cloud?
Then last chapter Darui showed great respect for them and called them the 'shining lights'. Then this chapter it's revealed they're hated in Cloud as infamous criminals and everyone is shown to be antagonistic towards them. It's like Kishimoto decided to just make them assholes in between the two chapters.
Kishimoto just doesn't give a crap anymore.
The only way it can even make the slighest sense is they succeded in the coup & overthrew the Raikage, and ruled Cloud for a while then the 3rd Raikage killed them sometime after they killed Tobirama. Still doesn't explain them being praised last chapter.
But yeah, your last line is indeed correct.
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My God, I need to stop checking the Telegrams section in NF.
The majority of people actually believe Kishimoto is doing a good job with this "war"
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The further you stay away from NF, the better.
Trust me. I would know.
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Can we start calling Naruto the poor mans JJBA?
No, that's Hunter X Hunter.
Naruto shouldn't be compared in any way to either of those.
@dirt:
[qimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/Alastair918/the.jpg[/qimg]
Awesome.
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My God, I need to stop checking the Telegrams section in NF.
The majority of people actually believe Kishimoto is doing a good job with this "war"
Isn't that the place were they bitch about One Piece fans or something, or the One Piece fandom there is wacked like One manga's.
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hey guys I need help, see I have a friend who's a semi Narutard, naruto's his favorite manga and he likes part 2 more than part 1, but he is willing to accept that there are problems with it, and hates sasuke and karin and lots of shitty things about it, so I usually just keep what I think to a minimum but now were in a argument about the war, so I'll just put what's happened so far here
me: um I don't know if it's just me but, I want to bsee what darui does but I also want the kohana 11 to fight in this war too, and not just fodder zetsus, I mean I want the gokage summit characters, but are rookies need some time to shine too, especially rock lee
Him: yeah, cuz obviously having a character who only uses physical attacks fight a group of super powered zombies immune to physical attacks is a brilliant idea
me: okay fine, have him do nothing….. great to see you like kishi and kubo's ideas on how to use support characters.... which is don't
Him: which is why this chapter only involved support characters, right?
Me: Yeah 5 main characters of this chapter 1 we just got introduced to and had a plain design, the other two we met last chapter and that white girl no one gives a shit about and darui the only one of interest, oh yeah raikage and tsunade appeared for like two pannels, no I'm talking about the support characters We've known since part 1 who've been neglected most of part 2 so we could see just naruto and sasuke, you know the rookies, kohana 11 remember them, I wouldn't blame you if you didn't to be honest, well those are the guys I want to see you know the ones that used to matter when he cared about this series
Him: cuz bulma, yamcha, olong, and pwar stayed important through out all of db huh?
Me: And that's one of the many things i hate about dbz
Him: one piece does it too, every form of fiction does
okay so there we go, now I could simply just go rant but I'm not good at that, so I figured since we haven't had much narutard entertainment lately, I would put this out, one of you could give me a great response I'd show it to him and when he replies back I'll update and then we can see where it goes from there I figured it would put some fun, that's also on topic back in the thread since we'll be debating naruto anyways
if the mods don't want this here you can just delete it I'll be fine with that, I thought it's on topic but if not I apologize, just trying to add a little fun and get back at my friend in the meantime
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-I mean… why even have these two badguys have the nine tailed chakra in the fucking first place? The real danger of them is the weapons they carry!
Some BS about not being able to wield the weapons unless you have an insane amount of chakra.
I'm tempted to move my ranking up to Sharingan Red.
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@RobbyBevard:
Awesome.
fucking damn it, the only one who gets it, and it's bobby
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@dirt:
Looks over picture
The writer in me reads something in this, but I'm still not 100% sure.
EDIT: Never mind, now I'm 100% sure. Funny.Read the chapter…
The only reason why I didn't barf was because I turned my mind off and looked at the weird pictures.
Still, the Nine Tails thing is tremendously stupid, these guys are completely out of nowhere and are pretty much 'Strong Zombie A' and 'Strong Zombie B'.
If this were an RPG, they'd be the bosses who get in your way just because. One mixed bag of up and down side: The word thing.
On the one hand, for all we know, it's a rip off of Yu Yu Hakusho.
Also, it's really convulted to make a weapon like that. You only get a curse like that in a turn-based RPG.
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@dirt:
fucking damn it, the only one who gets it, and it's bobby
I got it :sad:
Heck, I even mentioned it earlier in this thread.
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I got it :sad:
Heck, I even mentioned it earlier in this thread.
been skimming a lot here
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Wait a minute did someone before say that they thought Hunter X Hunter was a poor man's JJBA? Or did they mean Naruto was a poor man's Hunter X Hunter?
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The further you stay away from NF, the better.
Trust me. I would know.
I'm very attached to some of the FCs, but I'm so close to just leaving and give ownership to somebody else. :(
Isn't that the place were they bitch about One Piece fans or something, or the One Piece fandom there is wacked like One manga's.
Some do, but there are several members who know OP is superior in every way.
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@Friend:
Wait a minute did someone before say that they thought Hunter X Hunter was a poor man's JJBA? Or did they mean Naruto was a poor man's Hunter X Hunter?
Naruto is a poor mans Hunter, which is a poor mans Jojo. Naruto shouldn't be anywhere near Jojo.
Hunter mostly loses points for taking year long hiatuses and being in the same arc for the last 7 years. If it was a proper weekly it'd be up there with OP easily.
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I got it :sad:
Heck, I even mentioned it earlier in this thread.
Can someone explain it to me? Is it a reference to something else?
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Can someone explain it to me? Is it a reference to something else?
The jar works when you say the word you use most. (What a stupid trap.) But rather than a proper noun or attack name or whatever as seen in the chapter, by default that should be a word such as "the" or "it". Something that gets used commonly in everyday speech.
Heck, I wasn't even trying, and if the catch word was "the" I'd be caught six times over.
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So, what happens if someone says the same word twice?
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This chapter was so depressingly bad. What happened to this manga ?
Kishi had all the tools to make a masterpiece and he screwed up big time.
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my friend came up with a good point, if naruto had been captured by pein couldn't the frogs have just reverse summon him back
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my friend came up with a good point, if naruto had been captured by pein couldn't the frogs have just reverse summon him back
Good point.
You'd think they could do that for Jiraiya too, if they knew his life was in danger.
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Can someone explain it to me? Is it a reference to something else?
Someone wondered why the taboo word wasn't something common like "the" or "it", so he edited to make "the" the taboo word.
Edit: Didn't notice there was another page…
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First time posting on this thread. Might as well.
Yeah, this is the chapter that has me off Naruto for good. Wtf. Shining lights –--> horrible criminals = indication Kishi really doesn't care. OVER TWO WEEKS. How could he possibly clear up such a glaring discrepancy? There's no ass pull that takes care of that a la "Zabuza's sword regenerates on blood!" (Which was kind of cool but would have been oh I don't know a bit cooler if we'd known from the BEGINNING OF THE DAMN SERIES)
I could withstand the rest of the bullshit for the series's decent/good/okay points, because I thought Kishi cared, but this chapter. Christ.
But on the other hand, you have glimpses of real history, like the meeting between the 2nd and the Cloud dudes, which betrays the fact that Kishi must still care about his own world a little bit. This man confuses me.
My reaction to most of what's been going on since Pain (who I actually really liked and thought was cool and I'm still somewhat nostalgic over, please don't judge me) has been meeeeeh, but this really takes the cake.
Actually, I might keep reading just to bash on it with the rest of you guys. And I'll definitely keep reading Bleach because of how hysterical it has become. Where is the Bleach thread, btw?
Aside: The whole "word-based magic" thing is a pet peeve of mine. How exactly does it work? Why would anyone create magical artifacts that only activate when the target says a word they use a lot, what purpose does such a convoluted mechanic serve? How is that word recorded? Does the cosmos keep track of catchphrases? Where is the precedent for such a thing? (I suppose you could call Sai's tongue trap a precedent for this sort of magic, but only if you squint.) I know it's based on Journey to the West, but you have to have it make sense to bring it over to your universe, Kishi.
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@RobbyBevard:
The jar works when you say the word you use most. (What a stupid trap.) But rather than a proper noun or attack name or whatever as seen in the chapter, by default that should be a word such as "the" or "it". Something that gets used commonly in everyday speech.
Heck, I wasn't even trying, and if the catch word was "the" I'd be caught six times over.
Holy hell i didn't even notice the "The" that was edited in. God, I feel retarded now, I thought that was just an excerpt from the chapter.
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Actually, I might keep reading just to bash on it with the rest of you guys. And I'll definitely keep reading Bleach because of how hysterical it has become. Where is the Bleach Thread, btw?
The Bleach thread is called "Felch" for some reason. Enjoy :)
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The Bleach thread is called "Felch" for some reason. Enjoy :)
Go to the urbandictionary, and look up Felch. After you are done gagging, I think you will agree on the name change.
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Holy hell i didn't even notice the "The" that was edited in. God, I feel retarded now, I thought that was just an excerpt from the chapter.
I'd rather take this as a proof of how ridiculous the whole thing's become- Him shouting "the" fits so well in the mental age this manga has degressed to that it didn't feel unnatural =_= (Gotta admit, I didn't catch the edit either)
Is it considered masochism at this point if I go back to part 1 and read the awesomeness that was "kishi caring" ?
(btw to the point that "dbz didn't use yamcha, … anymore: Toriama quite obviously planned his manga to end after freeza... translating that back to naruto, we're about to reach the "climax" of the cell ark... naruto ninetails-naturalenergy-combination-mode being gohan's SuperSayan Level 2 )