It be awesome if Enel is the last warlord replacement with a bounty 500,000,000.
Shichibukai Discussion Thread
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@Giancarlo:
Not sure if it has been said yet but can't be bothered to check through all the pages, in the latest chapter with law appearing as a member of the 7S and how he got into it "sent 100 pirates hearts to HQ". Now, with his ability it is probably possible for him to remove hearts without killing said person which he could then use as leverage and get them to do things for him, if they were to refuse he could just destroy their heart that he would have hidden in a heart vault of some sort with a bunch of others, this could be why he came to fight at Marineford hoping to get his hands on some hearts belonging to powerful people which he could then make do his bidding and by chance he managed to get his hands on Luffy and it ended up looking like he was helping him where in fact he did actually help him survive but only to help himself in the future gain one over on the SH's if they ever got in his way to get to the top and he has Luffy's heart hidden away somewhere.
I know its pretty far out there but it's possible for this to happen and what with them being called the "Heart Pirates" just makes me think its even more true, but I'm not the person who puts his belief's all into one theory, but still what do you lot think of it?
Hey, maybe he did something like that only with Luffy's brain instead of heart, so no one will notice (yeah, I know Luffy is not that stupid actually, but people tend to think he is).
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It be awesome if Enel is the last warlord replacement with a bounty 500,000,000.
I think that would be a bit odd considering how he feels he is above all things in life.
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I think that would be a bit odd considering how he feels he is above all things in life.
Maybe his defeat to Luffy humbled him, someone else could've humbled him.
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You know now that he basically has his own world to rule over with a massive amount of followers that he gives life too, I would guess his God complex has only gotten worse. Well that is to say if he hasn't returned to "earth" since he went to the moon.
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He met Buggy, and realized just how terrifying the blue sea can be
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Jinbe and Kuma are also cool for different reasons. Moriah is a lazy fatass.
Hey, shut up about Moria! Deranged, sad, hideous Moria. I mean, the guy lost his crew, he doesn't need to take shit about being lazy.
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Moria will make a triumphant return, since he's probably realized being lazy won't get his dreams accomplished
I'm hoping he returns in the kaidou arc, tag team against the emperor
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Why all the Moria hate? It took the entire strawhat crew to defeat an out of shape moria. Imagine how strong he would be if he got back in shape.
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Why all the Moria hate? It took the entire strawhat crew to defeat an out of shape moria. Imagine how strong he would be if he got back in shape.
It took the entire Straw Hat because he was first inside Oars and then had a thousand shadows inside him afterwards. By himself he was never really that impressive. For me and I imagine quite a few other this is why. He is like the Don Krieg of the Grand Line. With enough help and props he can do something but by himself he is not very impressive. Hell I think if they knew the exact nature of his powers not just the monster trio but also Nico Robin and quite probably Franky might have been able to take him on. But then again you never know. In just two years the Straw Hat crew got a massive updagrade in powers. Moria might have well gotten one as well
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It took the entire Straw Hat because he was first inside Oars and then had a thousand shadows inside him afterwards. By himself he was never really that impressive. For me and I imagine quite a few other this is why. He is like the Don Krieg of the Grand Line. With enough help and props he can do something but by himself he is not very impressive. Hell I think if they knew the exact nature of his powers not just the monster trio but also Nico Robin and quite probably Franky might have been able to take him on. But then again you never know. In just two years the Straw Hat crew got a massive updagrade in powers. Moria might have well gotten one as well
The only upgrade that 50 year old fatass could possibly get is to lose weight and rely on his own power like he did once upon a time, till he got his but whooped by Kaidou
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I happen to think the exact opposite thoughts about Moriah, it looked as thou the only one that could beat Moriah was using Moriah's powers. Thou I feel similar 2how many of you feel about Moriah, in my feelings towards Mihawk. Mihawk's a laxy punk imo, who only manages to talk down to and take out nobody's. He often gets trolled by Doflamingo and even gets called out by East Blue rookies lyk Don Krieg. He just never has a good moment in which I don't feel like he's only there to be laughed at.
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Moria wouldn
t be much stronger because he is way older than the SHs and still couldn
t gather enough strenght to beat them pre-TS.
So now after two years he should have finally come to the conclusion that he should actually train himself to beat his opponents..i doubt that this old war ship will change that much :) -
@Giancarlo:
Not sure if it has been said yet but can't be bothered to check through all the pages, in the latest chapter with law appearing as a member of the 7S and how he got into it "sent 100 pirates hearts to HQ". Now, with his ability it is probably possible for him to remove hearts without killing said person which he could then use as leverage and get them to do things for him, if they were to refuse he could just destroy their heart that he would have hidden in a heart vault of some sort with a bunch of others, this could be why he came to fight at Marineford hoping to get his hands on some hearts belonging to powerful people which he could then make do his bidding and by chance he managed to get his hands on Luffy and it ended up looking like he was helping him where in fact he did actually help him survive but only to help himself in the future gain one over on the SH's if they ever got in his way to get to the top and he has Luffy's heart hidden away somewhere.
I know its pretty far out there but it's possible for this to happen and what with them being called the "Heart Pirates" just makes me think its even more true, but I'm not the person who puts his belief's all into one theory, but still what do you lot think of it?
ow GODS you just made me realize what law is going to do to luffy or rather what he already has done (this is my theory). law cuts out a heart of a pirate and then he stores the heart but the pirate doesn't die because of his ability… When law operated luffy he cut out luffy's heart and he stored it, when luffy tries to fight him he just takes the heart and squeeze it or something...
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ow GODS you just made me realize what law is going to do to luffy or rather what he already has done (this is my theory). law cuts out a heart of a pirate and then he stores the heart but the pirate doesn't die because of his ability… When law operated luffy he cut out luffy's heart and he stored it, when luffy tries to fight him he just takes the heart and squeeze it or something...
LOL, that's not your theory. That's everyones theory actually. I hoping Law doesn't turn out to be "that guy."
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ow GODS you just made me realize what law is going to do to luffy or rather what he already has done (this is my theory). law cuts out a heart of a pirate and then he stores the heart but the pirate doesn't die because of his ability… When law operated luffy he cut out luffy's heart and he stored it, when luffy tries to fight him he just takes the heart and squeeze it or something...
we all know luffy is a bit dense,but i think in two years he would notice if his heart is missing from his chest:wassat:
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Now I am wondering if Law could use his powers on himself. Sure taking out pirates hearts is a great strategy. But an evne better one would be to take out your own vital organs and keep them in a safe place. I mean people in OP already can withstand an insane amount of damge. But if you have no vital organs to be damges this will probably triple the amount of damge you can take before you go down
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Moria will make a triumphant return, since he's probably realized being lazy won't get his dreams accomplished
I'm hoping he returns in the kaidou arc, tag team against the emperor
It might be that Oda will let all the Moria haters feel sorry for him once his FB with Kaidou is shown. That'll look like Oda. Just remember Bellamy.
Damn, I wanted 2 draw a fanfic bout that, yet I got no time to do that.EDIT: IMO Law just surgeoned the hearts out of the pirates' bodies. If u look @ the samurai's torso, Law's "cut surface" looks black, so if Law would cut out a heart it'd look like a black cube if he had done it by his DF.
After all he is still a surgeon.
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ow GODS you just made me realize what law is going to do to luffy or rather what he already has done (this is my theory). law cuts out a heart of a pirate and then he stores the heart but the pirate doesn't die because of his ability… When law operated luffy he cut out luffy's heart and he stored it, when luffy tries to fight him he just takes the heart and squeeze it or something...
Law wouldn't do that. Its pretty clear, even though he views Luffy as a rival - he has far too much respect for him, to pull a cheap stunt like that on him. On anyone else, yes i could see that happening, but not with Luffy.
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Law wouldn't do that. Its pretty clear, even though he views Luffy as a rival - he has far too much respect for him, to pull a cheap stunt like that on him. On anyone else, yes i could see that happening, but not with Luffy.
I don't think there is a single person Law respects. Besides maybe Bepo and his crew.
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Now I am wondering if Law could use his powers on himself. Sure taking out pirates hearts is a great strategy. But an evne better one would be to take out your own vital organs and keep them in a safe place. I mean people in OP already can withstand an insane amount of damge. But if you have no vital organs to be damges this will probably triple the amount of damge you can take before you go down
today i was thinking again and i came up with something similar: zorro vs law fight, zorro is readying his onigiri and law prepares his "room" then zorro strikes and law activates "room" around them. zorro successfully cuts law but then law just melts together again without taking damage because of his ability….
right?!, right?!...
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I don't think there is a single person Law respects. Besides maybe Bepo and his crew.
Sure he does. Obviously, he views him as a rival/enemy, but he's had alotta fun seeing Luffy do those crazy things like punching out a tenryubito and the crazy stuff he did in the war…
He's enjoying what Luffy does - i don't see him pulling something cheap like that against him.
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today i was thinking again and i came up with something similar: zorro vs law fight, zorro is readying his onigiri and law prepares his "room" then zorro strikes and law activates "room" around them. zorro successfully cuts law but then law just melts together again without taking damage because of his ability….
right?!, right?!...
And then Buggy steps in and slaps him with a LAW-suit. lol. Naw, but I do see Luffy fighting against an even more punk version of Law and beating him, but unlike the rest of the ShiChibukai his lost is actually kept secret from even the WG, or maybe they'll have Sanji fight Law do to the fact that Law would cheap out Luffy. Luffy battles Smoker and Zoro fights Tashigi.
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Sure he does. Obviously, he views him as a rival/enemy, but he's had alotta fun seeing Luffy do those crazy things like punching out a tenryubito and the crazy stuff he did in the war…
He's enjoying what Luffy does - i don't see him pulling something cheap like that against him.
I'm sure Luffy amuses him, but that doesn't mean respect. Hey, wanna make a bet for fun?
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that law pulled out luffy's heart? he didn't. He might have replaced it with a new one, but nothing more. as for respect, i'm pretty sure he has alot of many people, not people who think they are strong, but people who know they are strong, like a mutual agreement between powerhouses, WB and shanks spoke respectfully enough, because either one leaving pissed off could hold dire consequences. I also highly doubt Law would go through all the trouble of saving luffy's life just to pull out his heart when they meet again and cut it up or something.
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arrh well, we'll see… i hope oda surprises us with the best arc yet =P
also looking forward to seeing how oda handles blackbeards major powerup during the timeskip ^^
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I'm sure Luffy amuses him, but that doesn't mean respect. Hey, wanna make a bet for fun?
amuse and respect have almost always gone hand and hand with one piece, zoro amuses Mihawk with the letting him slash him, wanting to see him fight him for real, not giving up even in front of death, and that gains respect
similarly law amused by luffy's reputation, but then when he punched a celestial dragon and then told kidd and him he would become the pirate king he gained instant respect
If you think law would simply put his whole crew in danger by going to the war of the most elite forces fighting to save someone who amuses him who hye has ZERO respect for, then your crazy, he obviosuly knew he could easily be killed
and this luffy's heart thing is based off nothing but suspicion and although it could be true I would not bet anything on it, it's less likely to happen then it is possible it will, I think we would have known by now if luffy didn't have a heart
now if your saying law would take luffy's heart NOW to beat his rival in a fight I think it's pretty safe to say that would easily be the case, as he said they'd be enemies in the future and he wouldn't hesitate to kill him, but that in no way implies no respect
similarly luffy didn't gain respect from crocidile till his third fight, or till he showed his real worth against rob lucci and he probably only amuses Big Mom right now with little to zero repect except that he'd make himself a target
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amuse and respect have almost always gone hand and hand with one piece, zoro amuses Mihawk with the letting him slash him, wanting to see him fight him for real, not giving up even in front of death, and that gains respect
similarly law amused by luffy's reputation, but then when he punched a celestial dragon and then told kidd and him he would become the pirate king he gained instant respect
If you think law would simply put his whole crew in danger by going to the war of the most elite forces fighting to save someone who amuses him who hye has ZERO respect for, then your crazy, he obviosuly knew he could easily be killed
and this luffy's heart thing is based off nothing but suspicion and although it could be true I would not bet anything on it, it's less likely to happen then it is possible it will, I think we would have known by now if luffy didn't have a heart
now if your saying law would take luffy's heart NOW to beat his rival in a fight I think it's pretty safe to say that would easily be the case, as he said they'd be enemies in the future and he wouldn't hesitate to kill him, but that in no way implies no respect
similarly luffy didn't gain respect from crocidile till his third fight, or till he showed his real worth against rob lucci and he probably only amuses Big Mom right now with little to zero repect except that he'd make himself a target
Okay then. I guess we disagree.
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Respect or no respect I find it extremely dubious that Law would put himself and his crew under such peril to save Luffy based on that alone. Not that I am in support of the "Luffy's heart theory" but I assume there was an ulterior motive to Law's actions that we are unaware of thus far. I mean from what we already know Law is a character who tends to plan things out more so than others, we saw that when he decided to wait instead of heading straight into the New World like the other Supernovas. Moreover the somewhat sinister aura of his character design has to bear some purpose. Instantly associating him as an ally or a "good guy" based on the fact that he saved the protagonist once without clearly identifying his intentions is pretty unreasonable.
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@Giancarlo:
Not sure if it has been said yet but can't be bothered to check through all the pages, in the latest chapter with law appearing as a member of the 7S and how he got into it "sent 100 pirates hearts to HQ". Now, with his ability it is probably possible for him to remove hearts without killing said person which he could then use as leverage and get them to do things for him, if they were to refuse he could just destroy their heart that he would have hidden in a heart vault of some sort with a bunch of others, this could be why he came to fight at Marineford hoping to get his hands on some hearts belonging to powerful people which he could then make do his bidding and by chance he managed to get his hands on Luffy and it ended up looking like he was helping him where in fact he did actually help him survive but only to help himself in the future gain one over on the SH's if they ever got in his way to get to the top and he has Luffy's heart hidden away somewhere.
I know its pretty far out there but it's possible for this to happen and what with them being called the "Heart Pirates" just makes me think its even more true, but I'm not the person who puts his belief's all into one theory, but still what do you lot think of it?
Fuckin sixteen A's man! Best theory/prediction I've seen on this before. So all these people running about Punk Hazard are his underlings for fear of death by hims messaging the Marines/WG and having them destroy the hearts. Hearts pirates indeed.
EDIT: Though I don't think he took Luffy's heart, dunno, but think Oda went another direction with that. but it is Oda after all.
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@Vash:
Fuckin sixteen A's man! Best theory/prediction I've seen on this before. So all these people running about Punk Hazard are his underlings for fear of death by hims messaging the Marines/WG and having them destroy the hearts. Hearts pirates indeed.
EDIT: Though I don't think he took Luffy's heart, dunno, but think Oda went another direction with that. but it is Oda after all.
No. If Law gave Luffy's heart to WG you think Luffy can be sailing happily right now? One den den mushi:Hello this is WG, all of you turn up to marines headquarter right now or i slice ur captain's heart into two - crew goes to rescue heart - mugiwara kaizoku dan vanished. end of story.
Logic?
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No. If Law gave Luffy's heart to WG you think Luffy can be sailing happily right now? One den den mushi:Hello this is WG, all of you turn up to marines headquarter right now or i slice ur captain's heart into two - crew goes to rescue heart - mugiwara kaizoku dan vanished. end of story.
Logic?
That and between Franky and Chopper I am pretty sure they can make some improvised heart for Luffy. Hell I wouldn't be surprsied if Robin can lend him one
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That and between Franky and Chopper I am pretty sure they can make some improvised heart for Luffy. Hell I wouldn't be surprsied if Robin can lend him one
she doesn't have the same blood type
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I take it there are no biology majors in this thread.
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I take it there are no biology majors in this thread.
why would that be important?
There aren't any IT majors in here then either I suppose because cola powered laser beams are kinda out there you know. . . -
Why do you think Law's gonna fight the SH's…?
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i think law's reason to become a shichibukai has something to do with doflamingo.
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why do you say that?
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They both share a smilie Jolly Roger. I guess that's it.
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It might be that Oda will let all the Moria haters feel sorry for him once his FB with Kaidou is shown. That'll look like Oda. Just remember Bellamy.
Damn, I wanted 2 draw a fanfic bout that, yet I got no time to do that.EDIT: IMO Law just surgeoned the hearts out of the pirates' bodies. If u look @ the samurai's torso, Law's "cut surface" looks black, so if Law would cut out a heart it'd look like a black cube if he had done it by his DF.
After all he is still a surgeon.
Still I wonder why he wanted to help out Luffy and surgeoned him too.wow this is a good one! now that i think about it, it is very plausible. he didn't say any reason, maybe bcause he sees luffy as a rival and maybe he needs something from him. or something like that. but that theory is good!
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so anybody think bonney might be a warlord too?
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Why do you think that?
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I wonder if Kuma is still a ShiChibukai?
As a mindless puppet, his presence as a ShiChibukai might not be needed, and instead he may just be a WG weapon now. They might've replaced him as a ShiChibukai in order to help put someone in power who the people will still fear as a pirate under the WG's protection.
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@GolD.:
I wonder if Kuma is still a ShiChibukai?
=DWhy wouldn't he be, he was a mindless puppet last we heard of him.
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Why wouldn't he be, he was a mindless puppet last we heard of him.
Oops, I accidentally hit edit on my own comment and not reply on yours. lol. Good thing I learned how to copy and paste.
As a mindless puppet, his presence as a ShiChibukai might not be needed, and instead he may just be a WG weapon now. They might've replaced him as a ShiChibukai in order to help put someone in power who the people will still fear as a pirate under the WG's protection.
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@GolD.:
Oops, I accidentally hit edit on my own comment and not reply on yours. lol. Good thing I learned how to copy and paste.
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There's only a handful of people in the world that know that Kuma is longer himself. His old Reputation is still more than enough to put fear in the hearts of the pirates. They are basing the pacifista's from his looks too. His Presence in the world must be terrifying in order for him to be the design for their weapons. He was called the Tyrant.
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There's only a handful of people in the world that know that Kuma is longer himself. His old Reputation is still more than enough to put fear in the hearts of the pirates. They are basing the pacifista's from his looks too. His Presence in the world must be terrifying in order for him to be the design for their weapons. He was called the Tyrant.
lol. U wrote a reply to my copy and paste skills.
Very True, I was simply wondering if the WG would choose to use him as just a weapon and use another pirate to fill his ShiChibukai spot, or if they would allow him to be a ShiChibukai even thou he's just a mindless weapon. Thou Kuma was said to be the "Cruelist Pirate"
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No. If Law gave Luffy's heart to WG you think Luffy can be sailing happily right now? One den den mushi:Hello this is WG, all of you turn up to marines headquarter right now or i slice ur captain's heart into two - crew goes to rescue heart - mugiwara kaizoku dan vanished. end of story.
Logic?
UNLESS he kept Luffy's heart to himself because he thinks Luffy is going to be the pirate king, so he is waiting for the right time to do his real move.
Obviously thats pure speculation…I seriously doubt we are gonna get rid of Law on this arc, so maybe not everything will be resolved in the short time...
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@GolD.:
lol. U wrote a reply to my copy and paste skills.
Very True, I was simply wondering if the WG would choose to use him as just a weapon and use another pirate to fill his ShiChibukai spot, or if they would allow him to be a ShiChibukai even thou he's just a mindless weapon. Thou Kuma was said to be the "Cruelist Pirate"
=DEven if the WG believes kuma is 100% their weapon and they can use him as they please wouldn't leave him out of the Shichibukai spot. The Shichibukai's have a role to balance the world; replacing Kuma is Hard. Kuma also gets the job of being a Shichibukai done. His Position as a Shichibukai is too valuable to have him removed from it.
Edit: Also the WG might not trust Vegapunk 100%, We don't know the circumstances of VP working for the WG. He could be doing somethings unwillingly. So the WG wouldn't trust him for such matters as to fully believe Kuma is under their control.
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Even if the WG believes kuma is 100% their weapon and they can use him as they please wouldn't leave him out of the Shichibukai spot. The Shichibukai's have a role to balance the world; replacing Kuma is Hard. Kuma also gets the job of being a Shichibukai done. His Position as a Shichibukai is too valuable to have him removed from it.
Edit: Also the WG might not trust Vegapunk 100%, We don't know the circumstances of VP working for the WG. He could be doing somethings unwillingly. So the WG wouldn't trust him for such matters as to fully believe Kuma is under their control.
I doubt that VegaPunk is a revolutionary or isn't actually 100% with the WG. _Thou I do think that Vegapunk isn't pleased to be forced to make weapons for the WG, and might rather be making technology that could actually help better the world.
And I don't think they would just remove him from their power without reason. I feel the WG would only give his spot as a ShiChibukai to another pirate if they had another pirate in mind already, if the pirate accepted, and to only increase their military might.
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