Those were simply some theories that could be possible,(Though i realise not teh most likely) The point of the post was to show that there were many outcomes possible of taht clash and i'm anticipating seeing which 1 it was. I didnt say shanks was dead nor do i want him dead however i dont feel the need to justify myself to you anymore so i'll stop typing now.
Chapter 502 "The Tenryuubito's Incident" Discussion
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I am pretty sure that no Admiral will come to Shabondy and that Garp will talk to and possibly fight Silvers, but what I want to know is what the hell is that monster outside the auction house.
P.S. For some odd reason I am starting to think that the Mugiwara's aren't going to Fishman Island at all, but through Mariejoa.
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Yeah i'm pretty new, but no i am not a sheep. I do what i feel is right and always will. I have endured bullshit from ppl for too long to change now. I'd rather be an outcast and make the choice that no one else is willing to face, the right choice. In this way, the world is a better place.
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Regasatanum is just plain cool. He keeps it real.
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@Yonkou#3:
Yeah i'm pretty new, but no i am not a sheep. I do what i feel is right and always will. I have endured bullshit from ppl for too long to change now. I'd rather be an outcast and make the choice that no one else is willing to face, the right choice. In this way, the world is a better place.
R u Luffy in disguise?
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Regasatanum is just plain cool. He keeps it real.
Yeah i've read some of his stuff. He seems alright. Though in this particular instnace his help is misguided. And just so we dont get bashed for going off topic, I think next chapter we will see where brook, robin, chopper and duval have been hiding the last 2 chaps.
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@Yonkou#3:
Those were simply some theories that could be possible,(Though i realise not teh most likely) The point of the post was to show that there were many outcomes possible of taht clash and i'm anticipating seeing which 1 it was. I didnt say shanks was dead nor do i want him dead however i dont feel the need to justify myself to you anymore so i'll stop typing now.
But that's the thing, it isn't possible. Shanks wouldn't have died in his clash with Whitebeard. So in this particular thing you'd be wrong.
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It's as legitimate possibility as anything. Though I personally hold that Shanks, if he were to die, would not do so until he reunites with Luffy.@Yonkou#3:
Ok now to business. As my sig will tell you i dont belive in predicting Oda
Actually, I've been doing all right no that front. The moment Caymie was kidnapped I more or less saw this coming. Though personally I was/am hoping for something to screw over Rosward and Sharlia so the Straw hats can take away a World Noble Hat Trick.
The Charlos punch was inevitable, but no less awesome for that. Now what I really want to see: The Aftermath. I always love watching reactions to the SH antics.
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make sure that little bi%$# stays down luffy. the nobles are stuck up think they're gods punks. Of all the rookies i like law and kidd the best. people think kidd might side with the nobles fight luffy and save himself. kidd won't fight them just yet though. Never will a pirate follow the orders of an government official
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It's as legitimate possibility as anything. Though I personally hold that Shanks, if he were to die, would not do so until he reunites with Luffy.
Aww come on sgamer…think about it...
Do you really think Shanks or Whitebeard would have died in their little clash?
Though personally I was/am hoping for something to screw over Rosward and Sharlia so the Straw hats can take away a World Noble Hat Trick.
The Charlos punch was inevitable, but no less awesome for that. Now what I really want to see: The Aftermath. I always love watching reactions to the SH antics.
I can't really think of anything that would screw over the other two. I mean unless they decide to somehow hinder Luffy's rescue of Camie they'll likely stay back to call the Admiral in response to the attack on Charlos.
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I don't think either Shanks or WB are dead. Don't think they were that upset to go so far.
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I'm pretty sure that Shanks and WB join forces. Also Charlos derserve what he got and his sister will never join the SH as well.
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@Kidany:
Aww come on sgamer…think about it...
Do you really think Shanks or Whitebeard would have died in their little clash?
Shanks? No. I'm sure he has a character shield in place until he meets up with Luffy again. Whitebeard? Possibly. Though seriously I doubt it's very likely. Whitebeard's downfall isn't likely to come from some scuffle we didn't even see the result of.
Still, in OP you can't be 100% sure of anything. Just because we think it can't happen doesn't mean it won't. And when it comes to the most evil (i.e. the best) writers, the fact that we don't want it to happen can almost guarantee that it will.@Kidany:
I can't really think of anything that would screw over the other two. I mean unless they decide to somehow hinder Luffy's rescue of Camie they'll likely stay back to call the Admiral in response to the attack on Charlos.
My original theory was that Rosward would be the one to want Caymie, and Sharlia the giant (she had expressed prior interest). The straw hats' actions would free those two, and meanwhile I had thought zoro might go and rescue that nurse girl Charlos had taken (since he went through the trouble of helping the fiance that got injured).
As things are now, though. If they wanted to screw up all three nobles, there's still the possibility of denying Sharlia her giant. Rosward's trickier, unless he was shooting for Rayleigh (possibly had same or similar info Garp did).
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Epic chapter was quite epic.
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I think Rayleigh might be based on the English explorer, Walter Raleigh, who was involved in the early English colonisation of the New World, and sailed to find the lost city of gold in South America, of which Skypeia might allude to. So perhaps it was Rayleigh, not Roger, who left the message on the bell for Robin to read, and perhaps Robin could get some clues to help the Straw Hats on their journey.
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So what exactly is your point? "Write awsome or shutup?" Isn't a Forum exactly the place that is ment for such theories? :wassat:
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Oda drew a full 2 page spread on a Noble beating by Luffy for something. Be prepare for major shocks in the coming chapters. You might not want to blink an eye.
I just can't wait to see how the Supernovas will react…....... Capone and Bonney might run for their lives.......... the others might just join in the rumble!!!
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@Trafalga:
So what exactly is your point? "Write awsome or shutup?" Isn't a Forum exactly the place that is ment for such theories? :wassat:
Woosh
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@Trafalga:
So what exactly is your point? "Write awsome or shutup?" Isn't a Forum exactly the place that is ment for such theories? :wassat:
I think Ragasatanum was mocking the idea that you had to follow the popular opinions. There is some heavy irony in the tone of his post.
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Getting annoyed at posts being unacknowledged
Can we all agree that, taking all the various factors into account, that there is a likely chance that while there wont be a admiral/whatever showing up straightaway, it does'nt mean there wont be a response AT ALL. Like myself and some others mentioned already we'll probably get a few chapters 'breathing space' until we see something happen. If an admiral does come however I doubt they'll be conflict, rather the strawhats 'just' escape.
EDIT: Then again, I dont think it's safe to predict anything either, all we've seen is Luffy burst into the scene and punch a noble-just because its heavily suggested that they will contact a higher authority does'nt mean it'll happen(It'd be too predictable imo)
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Getting annoyed at posts being unacknowledged
What, there isn't much to say about that… Either you agree with it or you don't. There is not really any way to prove either case as we don't know what the preperations/plans for the execution looks like.
And since you are not the first one to bring it up there isn't really a need to specifically quote you.Alot of posts go by completly unacknowledged. Deal with it like everyone else.
EDIT: Then again, I dont think it's safe to predict anything either,
And now you seem to be unsure where you stand…
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@Gorlom..I think you're missing my point here. While I say I dont think it's safe to predict it does'nt mean i'm not sure where I stand. Im just making observations here(in other words, i'm on the fence).
And I put in that 'getting annoyed' comment jokingly, its impossible for someone's post to get completely unacknowledged ;)
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Indecision is the key to flexibility
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@Kidany:
But that's the thing, it isn't possible. Shanks wouldn't have died in his clash with Whitebeard. So in this particular thing you'd be wrong.
I'm quite sure no one thought it was possible for ussop to even put up a decent fight against luffy, yet look what happened when they fought. Nothing is impossible with Oda. Of ye of little faith…
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@Yonkou#3:
I'm quite sure no one thought it was possible for ussop to even put up a decent fight against luffy, yet look what happened when they fought. Nothing is impossible with Oda. Of ye of little faith…
Pretty cliched imagery here: "A cornered mouse will turn around and attack the cat that cornered it." comes to mind with Usopp's fight with Luffy. Usopp got himself into a corner against Luffy, the only way out was to fight him. He gave it his all, but he knew from the start he wasn't going to win, but he had to try something there was no backing down.
And so… Thats how I view that fight. Sometimes you'd be suprised what people who are about to loose it all will try. The Going Merry represented everything Usopp was, when it was dying, so was that part of him.
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Who has the key? The key has the chief of the auction people. A person called flamingo ;)
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Getting annoyed at posts being unacknowledged
Can we all agree that, taking all the various factors into account, that there is a likely chance that while there wont be a admiral/whatever showing up straightaway, it does'nt mean there wont be a response AT ALL. Like myself and some others mentioned already we'll probably get a few chapters 'breathing space' until we see something happen. If an admiral does come however I doubt they'll be conflict, rather the strawhats 'just' escape.
EDIT: Then again, I dont think it's safe to predict anything either, all we've seen is Luffy burst into the scene and punch a noble-just because its heavily suggested that they will contact a higher authority does'nt mean it'll happen(It'd be too predictable imo)
my theory is that they'll appoint a VA to send after luffy and that'll be Smoker.
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Getting stuff off scenes is Sanji's department….... I am sure he isn't in the mood right not to compromise on kicking people's ass....
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Bet you anything that Rayleigh will acknowledge Luffy's will and strength, and will instantly notice the comparison between him and Roger (Roger would probably have hit a Tenryuubito too, no?). So if a high power does come, Silvers Rayleigh may end up helping the Straw Hats, just to see them progress to the New World. Of course I know nothing about Rayleigh's personality, but it's almost definate that he has the power to keep up with vice admirals and maybe even admirals.
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No picture of Trafalgar Law was shown in the past 2 chapters. :sad:
Where is Brook? Would people even let him in? They'd probably try to catch him and sell him…he's rarer than a mermaid.
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my theory is that they'll appoint a VA to send after luffy and that'll be Smoker.
Smoker is a Commodore yo. But I really would like to see him sometime soon… I miss Tashigi
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Shanks? No. I'm sure he has a character shield in place until he meets up with Luffy again. Whitebeard? Possibly. Though seriously I doubt it's very likely. Whitebeard's downfall isn't likely to come from some scuffle we didn't even see the result of.
Still, in OP you can't be 100% sure of anything. Just because we think it can't happen doesn't mean it won't. And when it comes to the most evil (i.e. the best) writers, the fact that we don't want it to happen can almost guarantee that it will.
That's what I'm saying. Shanks and Whitebeard might die, but not from some little clash.
Oda is a good writer and all, but there are some things that are easy to see. I mean if someone seriously suggests that someone like Shanks or Whitebeard died off-panel then there is a major problem.
As things are now, though. If they wanted to screw up all three nobles, there's still the possibility of denying Sharlia her giant. Rosward's trickier, unless he was shooting for Rayleigh (possibly had same or similar info Garp did).
I guess that depends of Rosward wants a resin coater or just feels like having manual labor, but the latter he could easily get the giant which interferes with your idea of Sharlia wanting it. Because I highly doubt anyone at the auction right now know who Rayleigh really is.
@Yonkou#3:
I'm quite sure no one thought it was possible for ussop to even put up a decent fight against luffy, yet look what happened when they fought. Nothing is impossible with Oda. Of ye of little faith…
Usopp vs. Luffy has nothing to do with your little "Shanks or Whitebeard is dead" suggestion" so I fail to see the point of you bringing it up. Besides, most here during that time thought Usopp would put up a decent fight against Luffy so…
I'll just say again: in this particular matter you'd be wrong, it's impossible.
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Smoker is a Commodore yo. But I really would like to see him sometime soon… I miss Tashigi
Well, Smoker did say that he needed rank because his current position could only allow him to go so far. So, sabert00the is theorizing that Smoker's been promoted to a VA.
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No picture of Trafalgar Law was shown in the past 2 chapters. :sad:
He was in the previous chapter on page 6.
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Well, Smoker did say that he needed rank because his current position could only allow him to go so far. So, sabert00the is theorizing that Smoker's been promoted to a VA.
That'd be a jump of two ranks in about a week's time.
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@MonkeyDMalcolm:
No matter them losing to WB and losing Ace will be more devastating than let luffy go. When it comes to the bottom line the tenryuubito's have really nothing going for them besides their lineage and they are the most expendable part of the WG.
How would the WG lose to Whitebeard and give up Ace in the process? You act as if the Marines ain't no World power, they do EQUAL the Emperors you know? Including Whitebeard.
The Nobles are royalty and very important people to the WG. It has to do with bloodlines and loyalty when it comes to the Celestial Dragons. Crap, you people keep saying that an admiral won't come when this whole entire arc has shown many pirates avoiding to touch a noble. Pappug's words telling us not to touch a noble, the whole build up was about not touching one and now that Luffy has touched one there is bound to be backlash.
BTW, LOL at the people (or person) saying Shanks is dead…
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It impossible for Shanks to have died against Whitebeard since there are only two characters that according to the story would ever killed Shanks and they are Buggy and Blackbeard.
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@Kidany:
That's what I'm saying. Shanks and Whitebeard might die, but not from some little clash.
Oda is a good writer and all, but there are some things that are easy to see. I mean if someone seriously suggests that someone like Shanks or Whitebeard died off-panel then there is a major problem.
I guess that depends of Rosward wants a resin coater or just feels like having manual labor, but the latter he could easily get the giant which interferes with your idea of Sharlia wanting it. Because I highly doubt anyone at the auction right now know who Rayleigh really is.
Usopp vs. Luffy has nothing to do with your little "Shanks or Whitebeard is dead" suggestion" so I fail to see the point of you bringing it up. Besides, most here during that time thought Usopp would put up a decent fight against Luffy so…
I'll just say again: in this particular matter you'd be wrong, it's impossible.
Yo shanks fanboy,calm the hell down. No one is running around shouting "Shanks is dead, I have proof!" God, way to take something incignificant and or unimportant and blow it out of proportion.
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I wonder if the auction will continue even though Charlos got hit?
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I wonder if the auction will continue even though Charlos got hit?
Doubt that.
After whats happened the next step is for someone to rush the stage and try to get Cammie out by beating up the auctioneer.
I wouldn't doube Carlos daddy might have a buster call style remote and an Admiral will show up after all the introductions(Kidd,Law,Luffy,&Raleigh) are made.
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@Yonkou#3:
Yo shanks fanboy,calm the hell down. No one is running around shouting "Shanks is dead, I have proof!" God, way to take something incignificant and or unimportant and blow it out of proportion.
Way to overreact and be a total dick
This is a chapter discussion, not a place for you to vent your pent up frustration
calm down
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Doubt that.
After whats happened the next step is for someone to rush the stage and try to get Cammie out by beating up the auctioneer.
I wouldn't doube Carlos daddy might have a buster call style remote and an Admiral will show up after all the introductions(Kidd,Law,Luffy,&Raleigh) are made.
I agree which means that the giant and Silvers will not be bought.
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How would the WG lose to Whitebeard and give up Ace in the process? You act as if the Marines ain't no World power, they do EQUAL the Emperors you know? Including Whitebeard.
The Nobles are royalty and very important people to the WG. It has to do with bloodlines and loyalty when it comes to the Celestial Dragons. Crap, you people keep saying that an admiral won't come when this whole entire arc has shown many pirates avoiding to touch a noble. Pappug's words telling us not to touch a noble, the whole build up was about not touching one and now that Luffy has touched one there is bound to be backlash.
BTW, LOL at the people (or person) saying Shanks is dead…
I highly doubt that one admiral would be able to hold up against one yonkou. The marines are going to be forced to send their best and if they don't it will turn into a loss. The only way they can win is if all 3 admirals + Sengoku are there or atleast 2 admirals + sengoku. If the WG right now loses a war to WB they will lose Ace that why the war is starting to stop Ace's execution. Try to follow the story a lil.
Once again the nobles are one thing and under normal circumstance yes an admiral would respond. Like you said the marines is a world power and so are WB which is a yonkou I don't think a noble is going to out class a war between to of the three powers.
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@MonkeyDMalcolm:
I highly doubt that one admiral would be able to hold up against one yonkou.
Why the hell not? The three great powers are all equal in power, there are four Emperors and Three Admirals, do that freakin math right.
The marines are going to be forced to send their best and if they don't it will turn into a loss. The only way they can win is if all 3 admirals + Sengoku are there or atleast 2 admirals + sengoku. If the WG right now loses a war to WB they will lose Ace that why the war is starting to stop Ace's execution. Try to follow the story a lil.
You just posted something that was never stated in the series yet your telling me to follow the story.^^^:wassat:
Once again the nobles are one thing and under normal circumstance yes an admiral would respond. Like you said the marines is a world power and so are WB which is a yonkou I don't think a noble is going to out class a war between to of the three powers.
You act as if ALL the freakin Emperors got together and decided to fight the Governemnt. No this is only One man…Whitebeard. Again, All the build up for people not touching a noble is because of an Admiral. Now that it's been done it's stated in the story that an admiral will come.
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Why the hell not? The three great powers are all equal in power, there are four Emperors and Three Admirals, do that freakin math right.
If thats the cases why haven't the adimrals put an end to the pirate era ?
You just posted something that was never stated in the series yet your telling me to follow the story.^^^:wassat:
what i meant by that was follow the reasoning behind why WB is attacking the WG. It would be stupid of him to win and leave Ace in the hands of the WG you know that was the cause of the war in the first place.
You act as if ALL the freakin Emperors got together and decided to fight the Governemnt. No this is only One man…Whitebeard. Again, All the build up for people not touching a noble is because of an Admiral. Now that it's been done it's stated in the story that an admiral will come.
No just the Worlds strongest man.
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Why the hell not? The three great powers are all equal in power, there are four Emperors and Three Admirals, do that freakin math right.
I'll just quote this because I can't stand it due to the sheer ignorance and irony of it. The rest is garbage for all I care.
It takes 3 Admirals and 7 Shickibukai making a total of 10 people with uber powers to balance out just these 4 guys. You do the freakin' math>.>
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Oh god not another balance argument.