LOST Season 4 *Spoilers Abound!*

Greg

I'm late on the receiving end but it would appear season 4 will see the amazing return of

! http://michaelgearsolid.ytmnd.com/

(whoever made that deserves a medal BTW)

Also rumors that Veronica Mars' lead will have a new role.

Cr4zy

! http://michaelgearsolid.ytmnd.com/

Oh jeez, no way. I'd hate to be him after betraying the other survivors (Kate, Jack and Hugo) just for his son. You know, unless they understand why he did it, which I wouldn't have. But I'm still excited for the new season!!!! Gonna start off a countdown again Greg?

Yoska

How many days there's still this torture before the show starts again?

stephen

I think I already mentioned that I saw the Lost panel at Comic-Con, but I wrote up a much more cohesive summary on another board. (in spoiler tags for vague info about the structuring etc.)

! I went to the Lost panel at Comic Con today. Not a whole lot of news you couldn't have guessed already. Harold Perrineau was there because his contract negotiations finished…
! Cuse and Lindelof said there will be both flashbacks and flashforwards next season. They had wanted to do the flashforward thing earlier in the show (because they realized at some point they would just run out of flashback material) but didn't really have the opportunity until the final season deal went through and they knew they could start that plan without writing themselves into a corner.
! Just getting off the island was never the ultimate goal of the show, so they stressed that where we saw Jack and Kate was not the "end of the show's timeline."
! Libby's story will still be explained, and in a "satisfactory" way. The guy who asked the question said he thought she was affiliated with Dharma somehow and the producers told him he was onto something.
! Rousseau will get a flashback at some point, but they didn't sound certain that it would happen in Season 4.
! Michael's return will be as a regular once again, not a cameo Walt-style appearance.
! There was also a sorta silly and very brief Marvin Candle (under another alias again) Dharma video they showed at the end that included clips of him getting made up before the shot.

Season 3 DVDs out in early December, Season 4 starts in February!

DeadJustice

@Greg:

Also rumors that Veronica Mars' lead will have a new role.

She turned it down because she didn't want to move.

Greg

Gonna start off a countdown again Greg?

Oh dude. At this point? I think every day being reminded of it would drain a bit of my soul. Yesterday I watched Goonies and when they entered the wishing well I started thinking about the caves and had a nerd attack. Not yet my friend. Not yet.

Thanks stephen! Sounds like it was a blast!

In resp to stephen's spoilers which I'm only not tagging because there was talk of this since Season 2. (that and with a series like LOST we technically need to tag every sentence)

Libby's story will still be explained, and in a "satisfactory" way. The guy who asked the question said he thought she was affiliated with Dharma somehow and the producers told him he was onto something.

This, while reassuring for certain, is a bit sad because there were saying the same thing around the end of season 2 (with respect to season 3). My guess is they went mythos crazy in the second half of season 3 to quiet the impatient 'fans'. I mean…of all the things in the show, I could have waited until the series finale to see how Locke was in a wheelchair. I just wish they could make things a little bit tighter for the ultra-nerds like me that borderline arrange schedules around their every word.

Rousseau will get a flashback at some point, but they didn't sound certain that it would happen in Season 4.

Yargh, really? Halfway through season 3 they said we might see it in 4….hmmm but maybe that was before the 16-episode season deal so that makes a little more sense. That's gonna be a helluva ride.

She turned it down because she didn't want to move.

Really now? Too bad.

Oh, my best friend's little sister went to Australia for study abroad. At the airport in Sydney fucking Charlie and Kate were directly behind her at customs I shit you not. She talked with them but they turned down photos or autographs.

stephen

Oh, DUDE! That fucking reminded me! In early July I was in Montana for a week just outside of Big Sky, which is a major ski resort area in the winter, and Josh Holloway (aka Sawyer) himself was wandering around the main shopping area. I suppose he might have been checking out real estate there because there are mansions all over the place. My brothers and I gave the man some peace but if it was a lookalike he was definitely fooling everyone else in the area, judging by the stares.

I probably posted this in the Season 3 thread, but I've told the story to so many people that I forget who I haven't bored with it yet.

Greg

Jesus.

If I saw Josh Holloway….Christ. That character and how he plays it....It's like seeing every masculine manga cliche from every series...ever...wrapped into one bag of flesh. Which makes this

!
all the more painful.

Lobolover

Uhm,what is "THIS"?

Anyway,if someone wants to speculate-does the four toed statue imply the sinister thing I believe it implies?

To people screaming at me for bringing back old threads-i was sent here by "CosmicDebris".

Battle Franky

@Lobolover:

Uhm,what is "THIS"?

This would be a speculation thread to the forthcoming, 4th season of the hit US TV show LOST, on ABC television. Starring Mathew "Foxy" Fox as the rugged and manalicious Jack Sheperd, Evangelion Lilly as Super Kate Austin, Terry O'Quin as Mr. Clean, Josh Hollaway as Sawyer or James "SON OF BITCH" Ford & Michael Emerson as the evil Bug Eye.

Created by J.J hasn't been creatively involved with the show since the original Pilot Abrams.

Anyways, the casting for season 4 looks buuuuuurilliant. Jeff Fahey and Lance FOOKIN' Reddick, what a coup for the LOST team! Fook! Kristen Bell, this is seriously fine casting.

Lobolover

I am watching the show,I meant what Greg said "Which makes this¨Spoiler:all the more painful."

Tizoc

^It's not necesarily a spoiler, but rather a sexy addition to one's room….in a sense.

Senshi Mizaka

Okay, here's my guess on how

! Michael is back: I think him and Walt might've come across Naomi's boat. That might've been the rescue Ben mentioned at the end of "Live Together, Die Alone". But I think Michael went against what Ben had told him about keeping everything he had seen a secret, and told the guys on the boat about the island and the Others.

Greg

Lobo, don't worry, it's not a spoiler for the show, it's just a very large picture.

Yeah…..um.....what exactly is Abram's involvement??? Did he create the entire story? i.e. Did he plot the entire thing out from a story aspect and then put the drama, personal connections and basically everything else in others' hands? I've always wondered that.

Plus have you read the history of the original 'creator' on Lostpedia? Oh boohoo, they basically dumped his idea and went with someone else who took a better take on the scenario. Cry me a river. He's still bitching and he gets more for the show than Abrams and Lindelof combined.

Lobolover

I was quoting you.You said that it makes "this" all the more painfull (and I quoted it ALONG with the spoiler sign).WHAT IS "THIS"?

Strange_One

It's a Sawyer figure. What is there not to get? O_o

Anyway season 4, whoo. 3's ending dissapointed me but I love the characters too much to stop watching.

Especially Sawyer and Ben.

Senshi Mizaka

I'm just wondering what kind of mindfuck opening we'll get for the first few minutes. The one for the 3rd season was awesome where the Others were watching the crash, and we found out that they have their own neighborhood on the island. Whatever they come up with, I'm sure it'll have even more of a "What the hell just happened?" feeling to it than that.

Greg

Yeah, Season 2 shot my brain through a wall and Season 3 was almost as good as that on the official WTF Scale. Considering they can/will go back and forward in time now, everything's fair game.

Lobolover

I know its a sawyer figure,but whats it a part of (advert campaign,figure series of whatever)?

prutas

I think it was a McFarlane figure. Not sure, though.

Battle Franky

! - Season 4 Premiere is NOT Sawyers as has been mentioned but is in fact Hurley's unless they are shooting out of sequence.

EEK!

! Kind of hoping that's not true. I like my Hurley flashbacks (or forwards) slightly rare and mid-season, waiter!

Ganner_Rhysode · 9/2/2008

Hey, here're some casting-news (even if they are a little bit kinda late):

Ken Leung (Rush Hour 2) was casted for a role of a kinda re-occuring genius-mathematician.
For me, it's great news mainly because I've been CRAVING for a mathematician to come up in Lost, since season 1.
So, there comes up an interesting character… I wonder how he will fit in the whole plot, and stuff.

Also to add to the new-cast-list is Jeff Fahey (The Lawnmower Man).
Interestingly nothing's known yet of his character-to-be, but one thing:
For the whole bunch of producer's, there was no one else, who would fit better for this particular char, than Fahey. So NOW I'm totally curious 'bout this whole thing, and the new (many, to be said) characters-to-come-up.

Senshi Mizaka

ZOMG surprise podcast!

http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-lost-podcast.html
It's been 3 years since the crash of flight 815. Let us listen to this podcast so that we may remember the survivors.

Okay, we have some info from Damon and Carl after answering some fan questions.

! Mihkail is dead for good, though he might appear in flashbacks.
! Sawyer might've really gotten Kate pregnant
! There were bigger plans for Nikki and Paulo. But, they would take away screen time from the other characters.

Tizoc

Argggh I'm such a fucking sucker for spoilers XD.

! As a person who likes math, but never saw Numb3rs, I hope this new guy will be interesting. Also seeing as he deals with numbers, I have a nunch he will be connected to Hurley in some way.
Sawyer got Kate PREGNANT?!!? WHEN THE F&^% DID THAT HAPPEN?!?

Gorlom

hmmm i never got lost.

can someone please summerize why it is fun to watch? i mean what is so great about beeing jerked around by writers smokeing pot and unable to tie up loose ends? does people that like Lost also like Twin peaks when that was airing?

(im not trying to bash anyones opinion on Lost i just dont get what is so great about it. and no, im not going to watch it to judge for myself… already tried that once)

stephen

Some people like involved mysteries.

Also, now that they have struck a deal that includes a definitive ending date for the show, they can start answering all the "loose ends they are unable to tie up" because having to continually think up new material to fulfill a never-ending contract is no longer a concern.

…now giiiiiit the fuck outta this thread, non-watcher.

WeAllEatFood

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i mean what is so great about beeing jerked around by writers smokeing pot and unable to tie up loose ends? HAHA HA, oh wow, this is definitley one of the worst analogies I've ever read.

Battle Franky

@Senshi:

http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-lost-podcast.html

Man, those two have such a great rapport. Though, I really hate listener feedback, mainly stemming for the Jay & Jack podcast, where every second caller sounds like a hillbilly mouth breather. Podcast seemed sort of wasted, but still good to hear from them again.

Hope Nestor's new show tanks, I want to see more of Mr. Alpert.

Gorlom

@stephen:

Some people like involved mysteries.

Also, now that they have struck a deal that includes a definitive ending date for the show, they can start answering all the "loose ends they are unable to tie up" because having to continually think up new material to fulfill a never-ending contract is no longer a concern.

…now giiiiiit the fuck outta this thread, non-watcher.

involved? as in complex?

im wondering if people are going to start to lose interest once they stop makeing new shit up and start tieing things up then. oh well. i wont bother you any more stephen. (was hopeing for a more elaborate answer then "people like complex mysteries" though)

WeAllEatFood: that wasn't an analogy, it was an assessment.

WeAllEatFood

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WeAllEatFood: that wasn't an analogy, it was an assessment.

Please forgive me, Your Grace, for I am just a lowly, uneducated serf. :(

Battle Franky

@Gorlom:

involved? as in complex?

Yeh, it does require a bit of concentration, some patience, and dare I say, intelligence. You won't simply be spoon fed season long mysteries and major plot points in one episode, like a bubbling baby. Y'know, it wouldn't be much of a show if they did, would it?

im wondering if people are going to start to lose interest once they stop makeing new shit up and start tieing things up then. oh well.

Eh? They've tied up a large amount of mysteries spanning over the last two seasons, most in a very satisfying manner. (No, we don't know what the Monster is yet, or the origin of the four toed statue… liek ZoMG! Damn those ganja toking hacks and their gaping plot holes)

(was hopeing for a more elaborate answer then "people like complex mysteries" though)

Why bother elaborating? You seem to have made up your mind already. -_-;

that wasn't an analogy, it was an assessment.

An assessment based off what? A handful of episodes from season 1, 2… 3?

WeAllEatFood

@Battle:

Yeh, it does require a bit of concentration, some patience, and dare I say, intelligence. You won't simply be spoon fed season long mysteries and major plot points in one episode, like a bubbling baby. Y'know, it wouldn't be much of a show if they did, would it?

Thats what Heroes is for. (This coming from a fan of it.)

Gorlom

@Battle:

Yeh, it does require a bit of concentration, some patience, and dare I say, intelligence. You won't simply be spoon fed season long mysteries and major plot points in one episode, like a bubbling baby. Y'know, it wouldn't be much of a show if they did, would it?

im not much for tv in general so i would apriociate it if you did not insinuate anything about my intelligence simply based on how long time i would spend trying to follow a series. i rarely dedicate myself to a series since missing one episode of something im following ticks me off.
downloading any series is not an option i would consider either.
i do however like stimulateing media, lost just never catched my interest for various reasons.

im sorry if i came off as anything but openminded. i did not acctually come here to bash lost but get some points as to why the series ~~that to me seemed to be made by people smokeing pot~~ was so praised by some.

Eh? They've tied up a large amount of mysteries spanning over the last two seasons, most in a very satisfying manner. (No, we don't know what the Monster is yet, or the origin of the four toed statue… liek ZoMG! Damn those ganja toking hacks and their gaping plot holes)

sorry the hand full of episodes i watched seemed rather flimsy and explaned things with magic… those numbers that caused massive bad luck for anyone that used them and whatever the connection between the polar bear and the boys comic just ticked me off.

Why bother elaborating? You seem to have made up your mind already. -_-;

again i apologize, i was trying to understand while explaining what would possibly be my missconceptions but i can understand why everyone has becoem so defensive looking back.

An assessment based off what? A handful of episodes from season 1, 2… 3?

yes, forgot how long i foloowed it but probobly most of season 1… and possibly partly season 2. i saw parts of 2 episodes with the inside of the hatch. which ever season that is.
and also some various other sources which referenced to lost. (but useing that to assess anything is admittedly a bad idea =P)

@WeAllEatFood:

Thats what Heroes is for. (This coming from a fan of it.)

Once Sylar was introduced in the concept i kinda lost interest of heroes. thought it had so much promise without giveing evil a face and a name(although i never saw his face.. so hes a faceless face)…

I liked Daybreak but that was dropped after only 6 episodes.

WeAllEatFood

Well, Gorlom, maybe TV now days just isn't for you.

Battle Franky

@Gorlom:

i rarely dedicate myself to a series since missing one episode of something im following ticks me off.

Well, therein lies the problem, right there. LOST is a long term investment, plain and simple. It's an investment you have to make in the characters, in the mysteries, the mythology, and in the island itself, for you to take anything of meaning away from the show each week.

Take for example, the seasons branching Locke, Sawyer & Cooper story all coming to fruition in the Brig at the end of season 3. Which was ultimately very satisfying for fans, who've stuck with the show for so long, 'cause it was all interwoven together perfectly and resolved the two biggest plont points, of two the most important survivors, all in one fell swoop.

That's just one example of many, why you have to be invested in this show for these types of moments to have any real meaning or weight. If you're way too casual, it'll mostly be LOST on you.

sorry the hand full of episodes i watched seemed rather flimsy and explaned things with magic… those numbers that caused massive bad luck for anyone that used them

The numbers have been fleshed out little more, though mostly in the LOST experience, they are part of some sort of doomsday equation, a mathematical prediction of when the end of the world will most likely occur. The work on the island, and mainly of the Dharma Initiative we are led to believe was to change the core value of the numbers through their studies of the island, to avoid catastrophe, or so says Dr. Candle in the Swan orientation.

(Crystal clear, I know)

and whatever the connection between the polar bear and the boys comic just ticked me off.

It's kind of tied into Walt's ability to visualize something in his minds eye and have it appear or manifest itself to him (though it's only touched on very lightly in season 1 & 2) No doubt the writers will get a chance to expand on this, with the real Walt returning this season (Not just the Cerberus Walt)

yes, forgot how long i foloowed it but probobly most of season 1… and possibly partly season 2. i saw parts of 2 episodes with the inside of the hatch. which ever season that is.
and also some various other sources which referenced to lost. (but useing that to assess anything is admittedly a bad idea =P)

Again, if you are too casual with the show, then it'd probably would seem very frustrating, and like some never ending Matryoshka doll of mystery that goes nowhere.

I liked Daybreak but that was dropped after only 6 episodes.

It was a cool premise (Groundhog Day meets Die Hard) and Taye Diggs is a cool cat. ABC shouldn't have pulled the plug so early, and let shit Lost-alikes like the Nine fester on US TV screens.

Gorlom

thanks that was a more satisfying response ^^

(didnt they cancel Daybreak because of the low rateings? or did you mean they should have kept the show despite the rateings?)

luffy_versus_lucci

I simply cannot wait for Lost to be back. I did hear that Libby's story will FINALLY be told. I am definetely excited for it's return.

Battle Franky

@Gorlom:

(didnt they cancel Daybreak because of the low rateings? or did you mean they should have kept the show despite the rateings?)

Yeh, the ratings were not good. It had the hard task of holding down the fort, while LOST took that infamous season 3 break. I think they dumped it a week or two weeks before it came back.

@Battle:

or so says Dr. Candle in the Swan orientation.

Oops! I was thinking of Oliver Hanso from the Sri Lanka orientation.

Ganner_Rhysode · 9/2/2008

BIG NEWS:

A first preview-teaser of Season 4 was shown on ABC!!

First things first:
Here's the Link

To sum it up: The theme of next year's season will be

! Defend the Island, or die!

! Like we could see in that teaser the things that were shown, were almost always our Losties preparing guns, and in the end, there are the infamous lottery-numbers.
So, this new "evil", which was being talked about… What do you think? Are they, those Naomi-guys, from which Ben warned Jack and the other Losties in the end? We'll get to know this whole stuff in the new season, I suppose.
But hell, was that a surprise to fetch up that teaser...

Battle Franky

@Ganner_Rhysode:

BIG NEWS:

A first preview-teaser of Season 4 was shown on ABC!!

First things first:
Here's the Link

Wasn't shown on ABC. It's just a promo using stock footage of previous seasons, that a guy shot at the Disney's MGM Studios. (I read DarkUFO religiously, so I kind of saw it already)

Ganner_Rhysode · 9/2/2008

@Battle:

Wasn't shown on ABC. It's just a promo using stock footage of previous seasons, that a guy shot at the Disney's MGM Studios. (I read DarkUFO religiously, so I kind of saw it already)

Hmm, okay, my source said it was shown on ABC, and I wondered "WTF? Why is there such a noise.. Did he record it in a shopping-mall, or what? XP"
But still it's great news ^^
And thanks for clearing it up.

Greg

It's still a long fuckin' way to February… I can't even start thinking about Lost or it will drive me insane. Oh well, at least there's Earl, Prison Break, Housewives, Family Guy and South Park to fill the void...but even so....

Battle Franky

@Battle:

Hope Nestor's new show tanks, I want to see more of Mr. Alpert.

As far as he knows he will not return to Lost because of his contract with Cane.

Interesting, Damon & Carlton on the podcast said there could be leeway with Nestor, seeing as 'Cane' is with ABC production studios, so he could potentially pop-up during the season.

He believes that Richard is indigenous to the island and has been around 400 years or so.

Sounds about right.

http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/

Greg

this epic drama chronicles the external rivalries and internal power struggles of a large Cuban-American family running an immensely successful rum and sugar business in South Florida.

IT DOESN'T GET ANYMORE EPIC THAN THAT!!!!!!!!!!!

What a cock. You're telling me he went off to do another show? I mean I know Penny did too but she's like, "I'm happy to go whenever I get the call."

With an GRIPPING premise like that I'm sure it will have an amazing 5 week run.

Tizoc

Sooooooo that Youtube link in the previous page is a Season 4 teaser or isn't it?

Greg

It's a season 4 teaser…..without any season 4.

Geoff-s

Wait, so the eyeliner guy isn't coming back? Damn. I thought they'd bring up something about him not aging.

Battle Franky

Well we can only hope something works out. Though, Nestor seems commited to everything Cane atm.

His story has been 'parked' according to Cuse. I think Cane will wrap it's first season (That's if they are picked up for a full season) long before season 4 completes shooting, so there's a chance he'll turn up mid-to-late season.

Worst comes to worst, he'll be recast, though don't think that's ever happened in LOST.

@Greg:

With an GRIPPING premise like that I'm sure it will have an amazing 5 week run.

Don't underestimate the drawing powa of Jimmy Smits!

Grabbing a weak Nielsen preliminary 2.9 rating among 18-49 viewers–less than last year's 3.5 rating for the debut of "Smith" in the same period--"Cane" could only muster a distant second-place to NBC's "Law & Order: Special Victims," which grabbed healthy 4.6 rating/10 share.

Oh wait!