http://ytmnd.com/news/?news_id=56
I think Sega's time would be better spent cracking down and exterminating retarded Sonic fans.
http://ytmnd.com/news/?news_id=56
I think Sega's time would be better spent cracking down and exterminating retarded Sonic fans.
exterminating retarded Sonic fans.
Sonic Passion Forums says it all as well.
So…why is Sega suing them? Did they use Sonic somehow? I fucking despise legal jargon because they don't get straight to the damn point.
Well, the Sonic Sez fad got old quick, but that's just gay.
lol that up C, down C, left C, right C comment brings back memories.
Theres alot of suing going on lately, some other company has sued microsoft, sony and nintendo for joystick design too.
Sonic Sez fad
Ah, I see. Well, that's business for you.
You can do whatever the fuck you want….just so long as it isn't really, really ridiculously popular.
Ytmnd Took most of its FUNNY shit from 4chan, Like what?, 5 things are original?
psssh
YTMND Died the day "MASS DOWNVOTING" was made, that and a bunch of people taking Gifs and passing it off as their own causes ORIGINALITY TO CEASE
The forums are so'kay though
oh well, Still a great place for Funny if you don't have the stomach for 4chan
@Cap'n:
http://ytmnd.com/news/?news_id=56
I think Sega's time would be better spent cracking down and exterminating retarded Sonic fans.
SEGA needs all the Sonic fans it can find.
Also, YTMND responds: http://ytmndsega.ytmnsfw.com/
God, Sega just needs to let Sonic die.
But I guess I won't rant about that here. I like YTMND, it's always a fun diversion. This whole Sega thing seems like Ebaumsworld all over again.
That response is awesome.
Ha ha, that was funny. Though I never thought I'd ever hear a decent rap song about videogames.
Holy fudging mother of God, how do I take my YTMND off of the website?! I've got a YTMND there called "sonicxxx" or something where I spliced the 4Kids theme ('gotta go FAST, gotta go FAST') and juxtaposed it to a picture of Mario thumping Princess Peach.
@Mr.:
SEGA needs all the Sonic fans it can find.
Also, YTMND responds: http://ytmndsega.ytmnsfw.com/
Hahaha sweet rap
Ok now, SEGA can do what tey want but ther eis NO need to insult Sonic in any way with the exception of the 4Kids dub.
Sonic is my favorite video game character, and I have played too many games to count in a short amount of time. I own nearly every Sonic game(I do not have the newest one) and Sega is the one company I like more than Nintendo. No, I do not participate in Sonic the Hedgehog fansites. No, I do not do crazy fan stuff. Yet I remain Sonic's #1 fan. I really am contrary to what the archie comic's Q and A section would have you beleive(tey give the position to anyone who says they are the biggest fan mopre than everoyne else) and I can name everything, absolutely everytihng form the sonic universe(except the dang robot names they keep giving those robots that have appeared since Adventure 1) and I've played through so much sonic, well Sonic and Mario are where I got my start on video games(along with the Duck Hunt that came with the Mario Bros NES game) and it is seriously bugging me that you guys keep saying Sonic needs to just dissapear.
I do not however agree with the legal notice, it's unfair. Sure they own the copyright, but it's all in good fun, sometihng Lawyers will never learn, or at least haven't, because they still have soul-ripping claws and hearts that can be used as freezers, and they ar efilled with juices of political correctness, and yes, they use napalm as toothpast, a recent study has shown(or at least some do sicne it IS nature's toothpaste)
Anyways, you don't see the people down at Bungie mad at Red vs Blue making a popular Machinima out of their big time characters, they are even adding their halarious masterpieces to the Legendary Halo 3 set. You also will see them laughing at YTMND's Halo 3 ending leaked, which is halarious, but they arn't saying there was copyright infringment, eck they arn't even saying they stole a prototype ending for the game(well, it probably wasn't) or anytihng like that.
In short:
Don't get mad at the blue blur himself.
Everyone but big time business people hate lawyers, and even then they are afraid of them, just not afraid to use them alot.
@Mr.:
God, Sega just needs to let Sonic die.
Only after Nintendo lets Mario die.
Anyhoo, Sega needs to spend more time listening to what the Sonic fans want in their games (no more fricking emo hogs, more "2.5D" games like Sonic Rivals but way better etc.) then going after YTMND.
Couldn't have said it better myself Caracal. Agreed 100%
I was really keen to get a 360 to get "Sonic 2006", but after hearing all the reviews I'm not going to bother and hugely dissapointed. I've been a huge Sonic fan since I was young (well, actually a huge Knuckles fan) and would hate to see the series die because Sega refuses to give it the time it needs. They need to listen to all the fans, not just the Shadow fanboys and girls. They need to stop adding in new characters every game and use some of the old favourites like Metal Sonic, Chaotix, Mighty and some of the other characters who have vanished out of existance.
Nobody here has mentioned this yet, but can Sega of Europe really do anything without Sega of America's express consent?
On a sidenote, anyone know where I can download that rap song? o.o
Only after Nintendo lets Mario die.
Only difference is, Nintendo is still able to churn out relatively decent Mario games while Sonic, as eloquently put by the YTMND gentleman in his reply to Sega, "ain't been hot since Mortal Kombat 1".
Poor Sega. How the mighty have fallen.
I predict that when it's all said and done, Sega will get Nintendo to work on a Sonic game for them. I just have a gut feeling.
Only difference is, Nintendo is still able to churn out relatively decent Mario games while Sonic, as eloquently put by the YTMND gentleman in his reply to Sega, "ain't been hot since Mortal Kombat 1".
I agree the vast majority of recent Sonic games haven't been great, but I feel Mario isn't to far off. Since Super Mario World, they've all been "good, but not great". They all use the same cliche plotline. Heaven offend that for once the Princess ISN'T captured. I was really interested in Sunshine when I first heard Mario had to clean graffitie (sp?) only to then learn the Princess is captured yet again.
Frankly the last good game both characters did were the "Advanced series", mainly because for Sonic they were alot like his old Mega Drive games and for Mario they were his old games.
Anyhoo, Sega needs to spend more time listening to what the Sonic fans want in their games (no more fricking emo hogs, more "2.5D" games like Sonic Rivals but way better etc.) then going after YTMND.
I guess you haven't delved enough into the Sonic fanbase to know that emo hogs are VERY much popular with them and they enjoy having "mature" nonsense in the series.
And Super Mario 64 wasn't great? Tsk tsk.
I agree the vast majority of recent Sonic games haven't been great, but I feel Mario isn't to far off. Since Super Mario World, they've all been "good, but not great". They all use the same cliche plotline. Heaven offend that for once the Princess ISN'T captured. I was really interested in Sunshine when I first heard Mario had to clean graffitie (sp?) only to then learn the Princess is captured yet again.
Frankly the last good game both characters did were the "Advanced series", mainly because for Sonic they were alot like his old Mega Drive games and for Mario they were his old games.
I'm not sure talking about the storyline to determine the quality of a Mario game is relevant, especially since as cliché and rehashed as Mario plots are, they're still better than the furry/emo/anime monstruosities of the last console Sonic games.
But yeah, since Mario 64 I agree, Mario games have just been good games, with quite apparent flaws. Hopefully Galaxy will be a hit.
Forget Sonic; Sega needs to get Shenmue 3 made. That's all that matters to me when Sega is concerned.
Best of luck to YTMND.
Nobody here has mentioned this yet, but can Sega of Europe really do anything without Sega of America's express consent?
On a sidenote, anyone know where I can download that rap song? o.o
Download it right here buddy. df8a407f937ed414b36b9ef2440023ac
Those YTMND guys started spamming up the Sega Boards.
@Brad:
Forget Sonic; Sega needs to get Shenmue 3 made. That's all that matters to me when Sega is concerned.
There it is right there. Stop wasting time and money on those shitty Sonic spinoffs and END SHENMUE ALREADY.
Shenmue is DEAD runs away
Shenmue is awesome.
@Caracel:
Since Super Mario World, they've all been "good, but not great". They all use the same cliche plotline.
Um, Super Mario 64 kinda defined 3D games as we know them. And I don't want to sound like a Nintendo fanboy or something, but complaining about "good" seems strange when we're talking about SEGA's inability to release a game that doesn't cause everyone to hate the Sonic franchise even more. Sonic for the 360 isn't just "bad", it's a monumental disaster, right down to the 2 minute loading screens that puctuate every line of dialogue seeping out of the mouths of disturbingly realistic characters.
God, why the hell does YTMND get all this shit from other people… Just let them have their fun for Christ's sake, they're not hurting you...
Those YTMND guys started spamming up the Sega Boards.
Heh, that's the Dew Army for you…
I'm not sure talking about the storyline to determine the quality of a Mario game is relevant, especially since as cliché and rehashed as Mario plots are, they're still better than the furry/emo/anime monstruosities of the last console Sonic games.
While I agree none of Sonic's recent plots have been any good (Shadow's when he first appeared had potential but was ruined badly), at least Sega try something different each time. When I look at a game, I look at the story. If it's cliché, predictable and done many times before, I mark it down. I can't help it. I crave originality where possible. Sure, I like un-original things - I'm a fan of Rave and that's hardly the most original manga out there, but I always crave something different.
@Mr.:
Um, Super Mario 64 kinda defined 3D games as we know them. And I don't want to sound like a Nintendo fanboy or something, but complaining about "good" seems strange when we're talking about SEGA's inability to release a game that doesn't cause everyone to hate the Sonic franchise even more. Sonic for the 360 isn't just "bad", it's a monumental disaster, right down to the 2 minute loading screens that puctuate every line of dialogue seeping out of the mouths of disturbingly realistic characters.
Ever heard the old saying "One man's treasure is another man's garbage"? And for the record, I haven't played the latest Sonic game. The last one I played was Heroes, which I found enjoyable but flawed. Now personally I think Mario 64 is one of the most over hyped games of our time. I have played the game, and yes, it's good, but I wouldn't say it's as good as everyone gives it credit for. I'd say it's about as good as the Dreamcast Sonic games. I think all three are good, enjoyable games, but not the best. If I were to review them, I'd be happy to give all three seven out of ten.
Now don't get me wrong, I respect you're opinion. Everyone else out there may think Mario 64 is the "bench mark" to judge 3D games by, but personally I disagree. Just something about the game which makes me think it's good but not great. I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy. Honest. Yes, I grew up as a Sonic loving, Mario hating fanboy, and maybe it's still in my blood slightly. However I do try and judge the two franchises fairly. I love Super Mario World about as much as I love Sonic 3 and Knuckles (the best in the series if you ask me), but as the saying goes "Old habits die hard". Maybe I find the attitude of some Mario fans drives me to say the opposite just to stick it to them.
Ah, I see. Well, that's business for you.
You can do whatever the fuck you want….just so long as it isn't really, really ridiculously popular.
You act like I was happy that this is happening. I didn't know what other Sonic YTMND's there were. I don't give a shit if there are 1,000 Sonic Sez sites, I'm just saying that I don't really like them, but it sucks that sites have to be deleted, no fucking sarcasm needed on my part.
Whats so great about shenmue anyway?
Whats so great about shenmue anyway?
You mean besides that it's a great game? I dunno.
Seriously though, it's the last game I ever played that really amazed me. I'll admit that it's not for everyone though. I appreciate all the time and effort that went into it, but others could care less. It just depends on what you like I guess.
Anyway, I could care less about the Sonic fandom. I haven't played a Sonic game in a long time, but I still think the old Sonic games were pretty fun.
God, I've been feeling like a broken record lately, because all I've been discussing with people is how I'm still pissed off at Sega for replacing their perfectly good Sonic voice actors with 4Kids' Sonic X cast! Sonic Heroes gave me hope for the Sonic games, because that was the first Sonic game I didn't have to play in Japanese, but Sega ruined it for everybody!
They didn't even bother notifying Ryan and the others to let them know that they were canned!
Back on topic, I love DZK's stuff, and it's good to hear him lyrically stick it to Sega! As much as I love Sonic, it's true that the early-to-mid-'90s were the peak of his popularity (Sonic 2 > ALL).
But seriously, how can Jason Griffith go from sounding passable as Sonic in the TV show, to sounding absolutely terrible in the games?!
God, I've been feeling like a broken record lately, because all I've been discussing with people is how I'm still pissed off at Sega for replacing their perfectly good Sonic voice actors with 4Kids' Sonic X cast! Sonic Heroes gave me hope for the Sonic games, because that was the first Sonic game I didn't have to play in Japanese, but Sega ruined it for everybody!
They didn't even bother notifying Ryan and the others to let them know that they were canned!
Back on topic, I love DZK's stuff, and it's good to hear him lyrically stick it to Sega!
But seriously, how can Jason Griffith go from sounding passable as Sonic in the TV show, to sounding absolutely terrible in the games?!
Hell no he can't! But its not just him, The other actors are not doing so well either. I mean hav you heard Vector???
This whole thing is funnier if you remember how YTMND was attacking Ebaums World for stealing stuff
Little sick twist if irony eh? I think it's down right retarded though, considering that YTMND is barely anything besides flashes and pics with music playing over them.
Only difference is, Nintendo is still able to churn out relatively decent Mario games while Sonic, as eloquently put by the YTMND gentleman in his reply to Sega, "ain't been hot since Mortal Kombat 1".
Don't forget that thankfully Mario was never billed as the "mascot with attitude" and so hasn't been completely ruined by his need to be ever more bitchin' than the competition. I don't know what's more sickening: The fact that the 360 game actually contains near satanism and beastialty or the fact that there are little kids out there who'll eat it up.
As for SM64 not being a benchmark:
"I dislike Dragonball. It is far too cliche by today's standards. Thus I refuse to believe that it inspired countless shonen series and continues to do this day."
And I would just like to point out that the two Adventure games technically came the generation after SM64.
As to the lawsuit, I suspect it'll blow over pretty quickly in YTMND's favor. If I remember correctly, the use of copyrighted material for a parody is perfectly legal. It's pretty funny, though.
@Cap'n:
This whole thing is funnier if you remember how YTMND was attacking Ebaums World for stealing stuff
Well, it's not like YTMND was claiming they created Sonic…
In my opinionAdventure 1 marked the point where it went downhill, Adventure 2 was better, but adventure 1 still leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. It's this new stuff they are coming out with that is seriously mesisng up plotline potential, which is great unique plots, I mean you can only use a way to destroy the world once.
Shadow using a gun? Team work? yeah…I was happy with Adventure 2, altohugh it could use that more freeform overworld, les slike Adventure 1's, more like Zelda's, I want to feel like I'm playing the Sonic CD opening trhroughout the game, and when enemies come the ending.
Heroes was ok, but a full length game would be maybe 2 teams, plus the final boss, playing thorugh a slightly different way with different powers and the same 3 archtypes it's very much fun.
Shadow the Hedgehog, he gets his own game, but not only did they mutilate what happened in Adventure 2, but they attempted to extend it.
I don't consider anything from heroes onward to ber eally Canon, it's a joke.
I disagree, Adventure was just an amazing game. Though it was a totally different concept, the levels, the music, the plot made it seem like it was still a classic Sonic game. I think Adventure 2, though it was a great game, got way too anime-like, with Shadow being this ultimate badass, and more serious plot. And then when Heroes brought Shadow back, that was just bullshit.
Sonic Adventure 2 was good, but there weren't enough speed levels for Sonic and Shadow (especially Shadow, he only had THREE stages, not counting boss battles). The shooting levels with Tails and Eggman weren't as fun as Gamma's story mode in SA1. Oh, but don't get me started on Knuckles and Rouge's treasure hunting levels (They screwed up the radar system and I HATE the Security Hall stage)!
In closing, I must say that I miss the Adventure Fields and that the Cannon's Core was the WORST IDEA for a final stage EVER!!!
I also don't get why there's so much hate for Sonic Heroes! IMO, it was very reminiscient of the old-school Sonic games, due to the linear stage progression and the Special Stages where you have a chance to get Chaos Emeralds. Like I said, it also had bitchin' voice acting (well, compared to the previous Sonic games with spoken dialogue).
Shadow has it's fair share of problems, but I can actually deal with them. I just can't stand the voice-acting. Obviously, I joined these forums because I'm a One Piece fan and so I can also bitch about the 4Kids version, but I've been an undying fan of Sonic BEFORE One Piece even existed! But 4Kids has NO PLACE tainting any of these, or other things!
I still love Sonic, but Sega gets no love from me these days. The only way they can get back in my good graces is to allow Sonic to appear in SSB Brawl and drop 4Kids like a bad habit!
I must be the only person on the planet who is perfectly fine with Snake, but wants Sonic to stay the hell away from Brawl.
It'd be like having Crash Bandicoot or Spyro the Dragon playable.
I must be the only person on the planet who is perfectly fine with Snake, but wants Sonic to stay the hell away from Brawl.
It'd be like having Crash Bandicoot or Spyro the Dragon playable.
You are not the only one.
Snake is fine. Just one for a special guest. Sonic being in it would screw things up though.
Add me into that party.
There are people who don't like Snake in Brawl?
(add me to that party too)
I want to see Sonic in there, IMO he's way better of a person to pick then Snake.
Heroe's problem was that it mad that dumb system, and while I think the level desing and art was reminisciant of classic Sonic games, much moreso than others, I think the issue they all still have with 3D games is that the tallest platforms are tony, like 5 seconds max tiny, and go straight to a level far below, you can't really continue when high up, you have to go back down. Early Sonic games used to be able to get you on top of places you normally shouldn't be(on top of loops) and reward you for it, and have to platform hop(moving paltforms usually) and carefully time everytihng to continue on high up. Now all we get is a few extra rings and some boost ring things.
And Newer games has 4Kids voice acting. So real sonic fans are sitting here going WTF 4Kids you messed up video games too!?!?!?!? and it's really…annoying.
Shadow in heroes was rediculous, and sicne I never bothered to finish the game, and everyone spoiled it for me anyways, a bunch of Shadow clones? WTF?!?!?! totally ruined Adventure 2 for me(my favorite game) with foreshadowing, leading up to Shadow getting a gun.
And now we get a new character in that is ANOTHER hedgehog. They should have stopped before the cat, and even then she should have been in jsut Sonic Rush and maybe a couple more handheld games, never a main plot point, they stepped o the line with this one. Rogue was put there to even out the teams. She has almost no character development.
If anything adding normal humans(all 4 fingers and 1 thumb on each hand) with Mobians(3 fingers 1 thumb per hand) is rediculous. It only helped make adventure 2 less cliche, but adventure one absolutely stank, pretty sucky models, which had clipping issues and camera glitches, the only really cool part was running from the whale. Probably the worst Sonic game ever.
But Sega is still doing something with this, honestly they've gone insane, first letting 4Kids voice actors do the games just because 4Kids requested it, next they sue over some dumb joke to someone who wasn't responsible for it.
First of all, adding Sonic to Brawl isn't THAT bad of an idea, people!
Also, I mostly blame Sega for the voice cast change, not 4Kids. It was their decision… a decision they never should've made!
On topic, I notice that there are a few anti-Sega YTMNDs popping up, not to mention more hits generated towards the "Sonic Sez" fad sites!
Add me to the "keep Sonic the fuck out of SSB:B" camp. And I have no problem with Snake being in. I'm not really enthusiastic as he isn't exactly my favorite video game character but I think he's a funny addition to the cast.