I would think after these people caused those cartoons to be edited when they aired on ABC & Nickelodeon we’d stay away from that……….though some of these same people would probably be okay with bringing back the unedited versions of those shorts that had the racist stereotypes and shit.
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So how Joe's public humiliation marathon going? Heard he called Kamala Vice president Trump, and Zelensky President Putin today.
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The usual
Members of Congress and state governors along with a few people from Hollywood asking him to step down.
With Joe of course refusing and polls either showing that debate did slightly something or largely nothing with regards to his favor ability.
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@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
So how Joe's public humiliation marathon going? Heard he called Kamala Vice president Trump, and Zelensky President Putin today.
Reminder, Biden has a stutter. He has had a stutter for 50 years. He catches himself about to sound like Porky Pig, so he switches a word on the fly so he doesn't s-s-s-stumble. Grabs an associated word that isn't always what he means.
This is nothing new, and happens with all stutters and is what they're trained to do. And it isn't any sort of issue in private, just when you have cameras on you 24/7 that will turn a 5 second flub into a 2 day news story.
More relevant than the half second flubs is the half hour speech afterwards that showed he still has understanding of minutia and details of complicated subjects on foreign policy.
But its a bad look since the media is harping so strongly on him after that disastrous debate.
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@Robby
Sorry, but how this (clip bellow) connects with the sutter?
The sutter isn't the great shield y'all think it is when we have hours and hours of younger Biden speech with out sound like Porky Pig (like you said) or changing names of people he's addressing.
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I feel like we're missing the genocide forest for the Alzheimer's trees when we're focusing on that, and not say, how Biden's suppose of the genocide going on in Gaza is an instant disqualifier (all war crimes are an instant disqualifier).
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The thing I'm arguing here this year, and past year even before he gladly jumped in partnership to genocide, is that he was not a candidate to stop the buck of the far right. To quote something I saw online:How are the stakes still "this high" after we rushed to the polls to elect The One Guy who could handle encroaching fascism? It seems like the stakes should be lower today! If not, why am I giving him a 2nd term?
My personal view of Geno Joe the person and politician is that is a horrible sex pest racist reactionary, only in the past 8 years you have to add senility to the mixture.
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I didn't meant to imply that that wasn't true, but rather that getting into the whole discussion of trying to explain his disabilities away and still call him fit for duty was a bit silly in the face of the fact that even when he wasn't clearly falling all over himself he was still unacceptable.
The Democrats are all fucking morons combined with outright malicious pieces of shit who want to halt progress because they're just conservative scumbags, and every time they speak it's just fucking shit.
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@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
I feel like we're missing the genocide forest for the Alzheimer's trees when we're focusing on that, and not say, how Biden's suppose of the genocide going on in Gaza is an instant disqualifier (all war crimes are an instant disqualifier).
And what exactly do you think Trump will do better on the Gaza front? Hes clamoring to just wipe them out entirely . Or on Russia and Ukraine? He's already said he'd take us out of NATO and let Russia do whatever it wants.
I'm not saying Biden is good, but Trump IS In fact worse on that particular issue.
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@Robby said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
And what exactly do you think Trump will do better on the Gaza front?
NOTHING, but the guy currently is also doing nothing. What worse you expect that it could get? Genocide 2.0? Send some B-56s with Nukes to clear the beach front proprieties for Kushner?
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Wait, how is the death toll your considering? The one from November-December that would place it at 50k? Because palestineans being telling, and Lancet just published that currently the conservative death toll is 186k. So your 200K needless deaths are already here.It is so not a genocide that both western biased courts - ICC and ICJ - believe the claim it is, is valid. And unless you think that the history of the conflict started on October 7th, I can't say how you can't reach the conclusion that israeli always carried genocidal intent. It's not that current israeli politicians form gov't and opposition have told time and time again that they wish do to what Trump said to do. Eradicate Gaza and all life on it.
No, I'm not joking. What of worse can happen to the people of Gaza? The only scenario I can see is a nuke. Because is 10 months I have already seen butchered and starved palestinean kids for more than 10 life times.
Oh the ceasefire you say, the one Bibi refuses to accept unless is on his term that IDF keep operations and palestinean resistance surrender. Which thinking about it is not what a ceasefire is, isn't is?
Yes Biden is not Israel's president or prime minister, quite a astute observation. What is not astute is pretend that the Zionist Outpost of Progress can exist with as it is with out western support. Specially in the current mood of national suicide of we either make greater israel or crumble under our own contradictions.
Biden says no weapons, no shield at UNSC, no commerce and I don't think Bibi will be boasting to keep operation until objectives are meet.
That don't restrain to Biden solely, I'm absolutely furious that the Lula is taken a craven posture and haven't broke commercial and diplomatic ties.Nika, I could go on and on. I could reply to a post of yours claiming that Israel is the only ally in the region (when in reality Syria, Yemen and Iran are the only MENA countries that are neither allies nor in the US paycheck)
But I don't think I could change the mind of a Phil Ochs's Liberal even if I was able to condense reality into a material object and beat ya with it, so have a good day Robby. And unless you want to discuss X-men I don't think I will ever interact with your posts nor should you do with mine. -
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@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
I feel like we're missing the genocide forest for the Alzheimer's trees when we're focusing on that, and not say, how Biden's suppose of the genocide going on in Gaza is an instant disqualifier (all war crimes are an instant disqualifier).
And what exactly do you think Trump will do better on the Gaza front? Hes clamoring to just wipe them out entirely . Or on Russia and Ukraine? He's already said he'd take us out of NATO and let Russia do whatever it wants.
I'm not saying Biden is good, but Trump IS In fact worse on that particular issue.
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I don't recall saying either one of them should be in office, or that voting was the answer here at all lmao
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@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
I don't recall saying either one of them should be in office, or that voting was the answer here at all lmao
No, neither of them should be. They both suck. But one or the other is going to be unless they die in the next three months, and that's the reality of it.
So, given that binary option, which one is worse for everyone.
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@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Sorry, but how this (clip bellow) connects with the sutter?
That's not a brainfart. That's him making it clear the room that the DNC has his back, they've already had these discussions, and isn't going to ask him to step down, so stop asking about it like they have been for the last two weeks straight.
Sure, you put the caption "Low creepy whisper" on it and cut it short right there it's clearly evil.
There are real issues to have with him. The way he talks and the verbal slips is not one of them. He's made those gaffes for decades. What about the time he asked a senator to please stand up, who was in a wheelchair? That was like 15 years ago!
Gaffes and slips of the tongue for people that are talking live happen all the time, they are not news. Especially people being filmed 24/7 giving multi-hour talks.
This isn't even a partisan thing. I'll defend Trump on the slips too when it clearly is just a gaffe and not rambling insanity.
Jump on them for actually saying evil and bad things or actually being disrespectful. You don't have to make things up to make these guys look bad. They ARE bad, they have legitimate issues and problems. Harping on the nonsense doesn't help anything and downplays and normalizes the actual problems.
Biden ain't my guy. Never has been. Maybe he does in fact have early dementia. But he IS better than Trump, and those are the two options we have. So we stop nitpicking the guy for three months so he can win the election instead of losing one crucial state by 538 votes, and then we can hassle him over all his problems, or he can resign in January. Don't care about the man, care about his cabinet and future SC nominations.
how is the death toll your considering? The one from November-December that would place it at 50k? Because palestineans being telling, and Lancet just published that currently the conservative death toll is 186k. So your 200K needless deaths are already here.
Well shit. I haven't kept up with (but then the news isn't exactly prioritizing it here and had decided its an old story rather than a current event) , obviously my information is very very out of date. I wasn't pulling from any particular source, just what I remembered last time I saw someone discussing it. Which I didn't realize was from half a year ago.
Scratch anything I just said on the matter then. Yeah that's worse than I thought it was, I have not stayed up to date.
Nika, I could go on and on. I could reply to a post of yours claiming that Israel is the only ally in the region
Context, that isn't my opinion. That's my understanding of what the USA's government's opinion is. It's been ride or die with them for 80 years regardless of which party is in charge and has always 100% been behind them to a degree that's nonsensical. The problematic things don't matter, and there have been many over the decades, the US always takes one particular side in that conflict no matter what, and "they are our main allies" is the reason given to a degree that makes no sense if anything else out there was supportable instead.
Despite what you obviously think of me, I am ignorant, not a zealot. If you tell me a fact I have is wrong and back it up, I'll agree with the new fact. World history and geopolitics are NOT my strongpoints and I'm the first to admit that.
But if you want to block me, that is entirely fair, I won't be offended.
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@Robby said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
I don't recall saying either one of them should be in office, or that voting was the answer here at all lmao
No, neither of them should be. They both suck. But one or the other is going to be unless they die in the next three months, and that's the reality of it.
So, given that binary option, which one is worse for everyone.
Things outside of voting need to be done, obviously. Yes, that's intentionally vague.
I think it's insane to try to convince anyone to vote for either one of the two genociding monsters. Like. I don't trust Biden not to turn that shit around on me, and quite frankly I don't need to keep seeing innocent brown people in other parts of the world being blown to bits by my nation's military or a nation with my nation's financial and military support.
"But we have to!" like...no, we don't? There are other options, that shit just requires people actually rising up to do something about it. Is it likely this will happen soon? No, probably not, but it's certainly a discussion that people should have. Cities burned after MLK was assassinated the only thing that stopped that was legislative change appeasing the wants of the people.
If asking nicely to stop killing innocent people doesn't work then clearly the 'asking nicely' part is the problem with our strategy.
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Holy fucking shit, someone shot Trump (he's still alive).
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Fuck. There's going to be some kind of backlash, somewhere, and it's probably going to hurt someone completely uninvolved with this.
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It seems the shooter is already dead. How convenient.
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@Johnny-B-Decent said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
It seems the shooter is already dead. How convenient.
Damn, that's a shame. I'm not looking forward to the bullshit that gets planted about them.
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@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Holy fucking shit, someone shot Trump (he's still alive).
Shot or tried to?
Only thing he got out of the ordeal was a cut ear apparently. Of course the parallels to Reagan are going to happen anyway.
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@Time-Control-Magician said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Holy fucking shit, someone shot Trump (he's still alive).
Shot or tried to?
Only thing he got out of the ordeal was a cut ear apparently. Of course the parallels to Reagan are going to happen anyway.
He was nicked by the bullet, near as I can tell from the video and photos of the bullet mid-motion.
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@Johnny-B-Decent said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
It seems the shooter is already dead. How convenient.
You don't try to take in active shooters alive. It is standard to neutralize the threat as quickly as possible.
Someone else behind Trump died and two others were hit.
@Time-Control-Magician said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Shot or tried to?
He was apparently grazed in the ear by shattered glass from the teleprompter. Rather than surviving by inches, bullets missed him entirely.
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This sucks. Fuck Trump. An assassination or an assassination attempt has no potential to do any good for democracy. This is the worst sort of chaos. Shit.
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And now Trump gets to whine about "poor me" the entire time until election.
Or you could be like Teddy who got shot and still gave a speech. Unlikely.
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Well if there was any doubt, now it's cristal clear. Trump is the next president.
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@Mugiwara_no_Ice yup. It's going to get meme hard sadly
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@Mugiwara_no_Ice said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
Well if there was any doubt, now it's cristal clear. Trump is the next president.
He's going to get a brief sympathy bump from this, he's going to have sky high numbers for a few days, but then it's going to fade. It won't be any sort of factor three months from now unless he transforms his entire campaign around today.
Historically, assassination attempts have not then proceeded to get the target elected. Ford, Reagan, Wallace... It might be different if this happened in November because then that brief bump might make the difference on swing states.
But rather than treat this as what it was, and respect the people that actually died today instead of him, and take it seriously (and maybe invoke gun laws, he will never do that) Trump being Trump is almost certainly going to treat this in a way that is actually going to be off putting to people rather than manly and heroic.
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Of course Trump survived. Only good people get assassinated. John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, Mahatma Gandhi, Abraham Lincoln, John Lennon.
Yeah, sometimes they come close like with Hitler, George Wallace, Ronald Reagan, and now Trump, but it doesn't stick.
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its insane over where you guys are.
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@Robby you might be right. I don't think he will be milking it the traditional way, with pictures and so. He'll use it to shut down the democratic party. Certainly if it's an antifa as some rumors say.
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@Robby said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
But rather than treat this as what it was, and respect the people that actually died today instead of him, and take it seriously (and maybe invoke gun laws, he will never do that) Trump being Trump is almost certainly going to treat this in a way that is actually going to be off putting to people rather than manly and heroic.
Lest we forget Trump and his supporters making light of Hillary collapsing and having to be helped to her motorcade following a public event in 2016.
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They also insulted Pelosi's husband for getting attacked and made jokes about it being his gay lover for months.
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@Robby said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
He's going to get a brief sympathy bump from this, but then it's going to fade. It won't be any sort of factor three months from now unless he transforms his entire campaign around today.
I live in a red state and work (for the next two weeks, at least) around red people. They still wear his mugshot. That fist raise is going to be eternal. Doesn't guarantee that he'll win, but I think it guarantees batshit stuff, especially if he doesn't. The die is cast.
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Yeah, I do agree.
I'm also worried if he doesn't win what will happen as a result in November and January.
Normally I wouldn't care a lot, besides the implications for American politics and the future of what will become of the country if his agenda goes through.
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@andre said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
That fist raise is going to be eternal.
The semiotics of that photo is gonna do a lot of embiggening for the far right worldwide
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@onemoment It's not like they need real violence to crank up police repression.
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@Robby said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
They also insulted Pelosi's husband for getting attacked and made jokes about it being his gay lover for months.
Forgot about the last part, the utter shittiness of these people.
And of course we now have a few cuckoo clocks blaming Biden for shooting.
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What makes it more ironic is that the shooter was in his 20s and he was a Republican. Make that what you will.
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@Nitwit said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:
What makes it more ironic is that the shooter was in his 20s and he was a Republican. Make that what you will.
Source for the party affiliation cause I only read about his name and age.
Edit: Politico has some of the extra info.
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@Time-Control-Magician I was surprised about it once I found it. The dude even had bombs in his car if the shooting failed. He was gonna suicide bomb into the audience with explosions in his car. It's like scary crude
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And yet despite all this information coming out we still have people pointing fingers at everyone but the guy that once said he could shoot someone in public and skate.
And who republicans have consistently allowed to escape any sort of accountability for legit instances of violating the law.
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@Nitwit It's a blessing the guy with a school shooting profile choose political violence, instead of well shooting a school
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It’s also nice to go on Twitter and see Magaworld denigrating one of the SS agents for being a female just cause.
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https://www.axios.com/2024/07/14/house-democrats-biden-trump-rally-shootingwhat a fucking bleak political party.
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Yeah, it's easy to resign yourself to a second Trump presidency when you don't ever stand for shit and break knee-caps to get your shit through.
