The recently revealed point about Tama being Kurozumi Tama and thus related to Orochi makes me wonder if that would play into Tama joining Luffy. Perhaps speed up the process in the event Wano citizens start hunting her down and her having to go into hiding repeatedly, with even the help from Momo and the others not being enough. I imagine she'd train harder as a ninja in order to improve on defending herself, but I'd also imagine she'd get so sick of trying to hide and being in a country where discrimination against Kurozumi has gotten so bad that it would serve as a driving force for her leaving Wano sooner.
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@last-exit-to-laughtale said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Making sure that double page spreads remain double page spreads when printed in a new format often necessitates adding additional pages elsewhere,
As long at they do an even number of pages every chapter it lines up fine. And the collected releases in Oda's case throw in SBS and Usopp galleries to even out any potential gaps anyway. (The viz versions for whatever reason don't include the galleries anymore, just a blank page with a reused panel which kind of sucks.)
Worrying about future print isn't an issue, just has to make sure its always an even-odd split, 2/3, 4/5, 6/7 etc... and the title pages make that particularly easy.
Oda definitely does pad some sequences for the page turn to lead into a spread or a scene transition, which is a good way to do it. Whenever I write a comic I try to keep scenes to an even number of pages as much as possible so the scenes can switch with the page turn.
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@Deicide said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
As Captain M pointed out in the Vol. 105 thread, the layout for the Straw Hats has changed, suspiciously allowing one more to be included.
And considering that I think the 11th is joining (thought maybe not officially) this arc, and that it may happen around chapter 1100 (or 1111), this is pretty convenient...
It's not
Boa
Perona
Yamato
Caribou
Carrot
Shirahoshi -
It's probably Carrot that joins the crew.
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@Kishido Nah, I still think it will be one of them will join before Laugh Tale, unless circumstances make it truly impossible.
That said, I’m willing to be proven wrong of course. I can see Bonney becoming more sentimental with the crew, Luffy lifting up her spirits like he has with crewmates in the past, seeing as how she’s crying her eyes out at this point, becoming closer to him in the process.
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I personally think that with Nine Senior Officers being a concept now, that the crew is officially complete.
It really felt that Oda was just waiting for Jinbe to join to make that a thing. Plus, the whole reaction to Luffy's dream and Greg's comments about Oda's envisioned crew.
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I’m rooting for Jewelry Bonney
Although it could be whatever the third mysterious race Big Mom doesn’t have is
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@King-Cannon said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I personally think that with Nine Senior Officers being a concept now, that the crew is officially complete.
It really felt that Oda was just waiting for Jinbe to join to make that a thing. Plus, the whole reaction to Luffy's dream and Greg's comments about Oda's envisioned crew.
With all due respect, Greg no matter what his role is at the end of the day isn't in the same position as Oda and the framework he writes for the story, so a grain of salt should be given as it should. Feel free to believe as you will though, of course.
But speaking on that, I just can't let go of what Oda said about "Luffy's crew of 10". Of course, when the manga ends with no one joining after Jinbe, I'll admit I was wrong, but until then, I really have to wonder how "complete" the crew really is in spite of the doubts Oda seems to have somehow grown in some people. He basically grew the set-up with Jinbe between Impel Down and Whole Cake Island, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was planting a growing another set-up afterwards.
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@electricmastro Jinbe has been set up for hundreds of chapters until his joining though. There's no other character that comes close except for Vivi, because she already has baggage from her time with the crew during the Alabasta Saga.
We are already in the Final Saga. Oda is not having someone else join in the middle of it.
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@King-Cannon said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro Jinbe has been set up for hundreds of chapters until his joining though. There's no other character that comes close except for Vivi, because she already has baggage from her time with the crew during the Alabasta Saga.
We are already in the Final Saga. Oda is not having someone else join in the middle of it.
Well, on that note and while we're talking, let's tackle this idea of "It's impossible for someone else to join since the final saga makes it impossible" I've been seeing go around and be said by others.
Keeping in mind what you're saying, can we be sure the final saga won't be hundreds of chapters long then?
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@electricmastro A good chunk of those hundreds of chapters willbe spent on the final battle, so yes.
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@King-Cannon said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro A good chunk of those hundreds of chapters willbe spent on the final battle, so yes.
Isn't that a good thing then? If Luffy is going to be fighting alongside his crew when going into the final battle, then wouldn't Luffy's 10th person grow closer to him that way?
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@King-Cannon said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro Jinbe has been set up for hundreds of chapters until his joining though. There's no other character that comes close except for Vivi, because she already has baggage from her time with the crew during the Alabasta Saga.
Vivi was around for about 10 volumes, about 2.5 years and 100 or so chapters.
Kinemon and Momo spent way, way more time with the Crew than Vivi did, both in terms of in-universe time, real time, and raw chapter count. 10 years and about 400 chapters.
Carrot has a comparable chapter and island count, and despite showing up late to the party Yamato showed up almost 100 chapter ago, and was in the story for about 90 of those. Tama's in the middle of that but she's gotta grow up.
Vivi has seniority and cover story appearances to be sure, she knew them before the timeskip, but in terms of actual on-page story time and being told "you can join the crew whenever you feel like" there's others that can match up.
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@Cockycent said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
It's probably Carrot that joins the crew.
How so? Didn't she become the next ruler of the Minks after Wano? (unless you're being sarcastic, in which case, my sarcasm meter must be outdated).
That aside, I do find it unique that she's on the latest volume cover together with the new Four Emperors lineup. I think that is pretty cool, despite how small it is. It's not every day you get to hang out with the Four Emperors on a cover.
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@Galleon-Panthera I would have to see her accept that Mink Ruler role. Her reaction had her questioning the decision.
As opposed to Yamato who can't help himself and just sticks to Momo with so many opportunities to be a SH. I'd add Tama too.
I don't consider any cover worth credible in a SH candidate discussion. I don't have a counter or a way to back it up that it can guarantee a chance. I will have to put pop polls, merch, and DF theory in there.
Doesn't add up for me.
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Since the number theory was mentioned, a reminder: if “Gomu” (56) becomes “Nika” (29), then “Mero” fits as the new 56.
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Both me and ro are 6. Mero would be 66.
Also, I know people kept spreading nika would be 29 around the internet, but ka doesn’t work for 9.
Nika would actually be 25 (so leaving 69 out).
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@access-timeco that’s not from me, that’s from Yuderon, an actual japanese theorist.
on Twitter and showing that Luffy was immune to them.
Someone asked him how Mero was 56, and he explained that
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As for Nika not being exactly 29, gorowase isn’t science. Similarity is enough for words to be turned into numbers, it’s more like a pun than a translation. Nika and Niku are very similar, and Niku = 29.
Just like you said Nika is more like 25, but that’s not accurate either. Niko = 25.
I’m not a believer in number theories, I don’t hold any value to them except as curiosities, but my mind blew when people pointed me to that tweet, lol. Pretty convenient for me, lol.
EDIT - Included links to Yuderon's tweets
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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Paw Paw fruit is a 2.9 and we’re getting a sad Kuma flashback, so there’s that
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@Deicide said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@access-timeco that’s not from me, that’s from Yuderon, an actual japanese theorist.
on Twitter and showing that Luffy was immune to them.
Someone asked him how Mero was 56, and he explained that
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As for Nika not being exactly 29, gorowase isn’t science. Similarity is enough for words to be turned into numbers, it’s more like a pun than a translation. Nika and Niku are very similar, and Niku = 29.
Just like you said Nika is more like 25, but that’s not accurate either. Niko = 25.
I’m not a believer in number theories, I don’t hold any value to them except as curiosities, but my mind blew when people pointed me to that tweet, lol. Pretty convenient for me, lol.
EDIT - Included links to Yuderon's tweets
I can't pretend to know more about the subject than a Japanese person, but based on these points alone his takes feel kinda on the "stretch and twist" theorist lane.
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@access-timeco said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I can't pretend to know more about the subject than a Japanese person, but based on these points alone his takes feel kinda on the "stretch and twist" theorist lane.
This whole number theory has always been "stretch and twist" anyway. Gorowase is a game of puns using numbers, it's made to be stretchy and twisty.
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@Robby said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@King-Cannon said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro Jinbe has been set up for hundreds of chapters until his joining though. There's no other character that comes close except for Vivi, because she already has baggage from her time with the crew during the Alabasta Saga.
Vivi was around for about 10 volumes, about 2.5 years and 100 or so chapters.
Kinemon and Momo spent way, way more time with the Crew than Vivi did, both in terms of in-universe time, real time, and raw chapter count. 10 years and about 400 chapters.
Carrot has a comparable chapter and island count, and despite showing up late to the party Yamato showed up almost 100 chapter ago, and was in the story for about 90 of those. Tama's in the middle of that but she's gotta grow up.
Vivi has seniority and cover story appearances to be sure, she knew them before the timeskip, but in terms of actual on-page story time and being told "you can join the crew whenever you feel like" there's others that can match up.
Speaking of which, Vivi was there much earlier for Whiskey Peak, Little Garden, Drum Island, and Alabasta while Jinbe wasn't, and yet Jinbe joined full-time while Vivi still hasn't. And I get the feeling many accept Jinbe being just as much part of the crew regardless despite not being in every chapter Vivi was in.
To add on that, a lot of people weirdly don't seem to bring up how Punk Hazard lasted from Chapter 654-699, yet Momom doesn't show up until Chapter 684, 30 chapters more than halfway into the arc. Even then, he basically fumbles around until being introduced proper in Chapter 696, barely plays a role in Dressrosa, and over 100 chapters later really starts getting some meaningfully sentimental interaction with Luffy at Zou when they form the alliance, before being separated again because of Whole Cake.
So basically he went from a character who showed up late in his intro arc to a character, from what I've seen, is now considered like a little brother to Luffy. This in addition to the fact how Robin showed up late in Whiskey Peak and barely had any interactions with the crew before Vivi left,
So it's stuff like that which makes me feel like at least to some extent, time spent in chapters doesn't really matter, and thus boggles me when people point out Yamato being "late to the party", as if to imply it was wrong for Yamato to have spent more time with Momo than Luffy, while "late to the party" showers like Robin and Momo himself pretty much get away scot free. Oda himself made it apparent that the series won't end any time soon anyway, in addition to how much is left to be wrapped up before the series does truly end, so all this talk of "time" may or may not be indicative of how people in general may possibly be getting ahead of themselves in how much leeway they're willing to give. Heck, one might as well claim Jinbe joined too late because he wasn't there as early as Zoro and Nami. lol
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@Deicide Did you mean to link to something else? Because the links you did send don't quite add up. The first one appears to be the start of a thread regarding the old theory about Luffy's fruit being tree/resin-based and some mythology about rubber trees. And while the second one is someone asking about the Mero=56 thing, it's linking to
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Did yuderon make a post about the subject before January 26, 2021 when the first person made that tweet, or...?
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@last-exit-to-laughtale The first one was wrong, I took the first tweet in the thread without checking, but it seems Yuderon's original tweet was not in this particular thread. Or maybe I'm misremembering the events and confusing the other guy's tweet for Yuderon's. It was one year ago when I saw those tweets.
But the
is correct. Yuderon explains how Mero can be read as May 6th, then points out 5656 represent both of Luffy's "natural enemies" (Goro Goro and Mero Mero)
Yuderon's text:
5月がMay(メイ)なので
5をメイと僕は語呂合わせしますそうすれば
ルフィの天敵(技が効かない繋がり)
5656 エネル
5656 ハンコック
になるのでGoogle Translator:
Because May is May
Mei and I pun on 5that way
Luffy's Natural Enemy
5656 Enel
5656 Hancock
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@Deicide said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
But the second one is correct. Yuderon explains how Mero can be read as May 6th, then points out 5656 represent both of Luffy's "natural enemies" (Goro Goro and Mero Mero)
That's not what I was asking. I'm aware the second tweet was explaining the numbers, but based on the context it looks like he's giving an explanation for someone else's theory rather than it being his own theory. So is there anything from yuderon on the subject that predates the Barcelona guy?
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Like I said, I'm probably misremembering the order of things, it was almost one year ago that I came across these tweets. But what matters is that he does confirm that Mero can be read as 56 and explains the logic behind it.
Anyway, as I was searching for his tweets I found one that confirms
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So, essentially a japanese speaker known for making number theories confirmed that reading Mero as 56 and Nika as 29 is a possibility. That's good enough for me.
The number theory just a curiosity anyway. I only brought it up because it was mentioned by someone else in the first place. It's not proof of anything, I don't trust it, but since some people believe such things I found Yuderon's confirmation very convenient and useful.
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I wouldn't be against for Hancock joining if she and Robin didn't look like sisters.
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@Johnny-B-Decent I dunno, I can almost always differentiate them instantly because Hancock’s eye shape, irises and nose are different, not to mention her iconic bangs and earrings.
(Also, Hancock is 99% of the time surrounded by a giant snake)
Some artists draw them very alike, but Oda usually does a good job at it (thought there are some times he misses the mark).
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@Johnny-B-Decent said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I wouldn't be against for Hancock joining if she and Robin didn't look like sisters.
-EDIT: And even when Robin had bangs, the resemblance was still pretty uncanny.
What greater purpose would Hancock have going to Laugh Tale alongside Luffy as opposed to caring for her people as Empress?
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If we’re gonna have another Warlord join the crew I’d go with Kuma or Crocodile over Boa Hancock
Edit: Hell I’d take GeckoMoria in a heartbeat
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I love my boy Sanji that even if he is doing attack he never keeps his eyes away from Nami-san <3
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Still hope for Vivi as last. But Boa can join because she is awesome. Even if I doubt it.Still more possible than all other "candidates" or former "candidates"
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@Kishido said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I love my boy Sanji that even if he is doing attack he never keeps his eyes away from Nami-san <3
BTW
Still hope for Vivi as last. But Boa can join because she is awesome. Even if I doubt it.Still more possible than all other "candidates" or former "candidates"
In light of Vivi revealed to be safe with Morgans, I suppose that would lead into her reuniting with Straw Hats by the end of Egghead seeing as how Stussy has links with Morgans.
Either way, I’m def curious to hear soon enough whether she wants to keep helping Alabasta as much as she can or leave Alabasta to be Straw Hat full-time in light of what happened to her dad.
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Just give her a Logia, and she'll be at least Nami and Usopp's level.
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Vivi needs no DF. She is the crewmate that is possibly going to be responsible for unifying all the unaffiliated nations that the WG have neglected or outright harmed.
Like Zoro said, she's a strong woman. Her voice is all she needs just like in Alabasta. She might be the most powerful out of all of Luffy's crewmates.
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@SeaTonnes said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Vivi seems like the only valid choice as of now or just no one at all
Nah, I think there will be necessity for one other person to join for reasons I'm sure many deep down accept as valid when looking at the bigger picture, but that's for another time.
@Chams-0 said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Vivi being chased by the WG means she can't go back to Alabasta, which would mean putting the kingdom in danger of being attacked like Lullusia. We don't know what happened at the end of the Reverie, but it's possible she and Sabo found out about Im and are, for that, not allowed to live.
If she can't go back to Alabast she can either stay with the strawhats or stay under the protection of an ally (Revol. Army, Dressrosa, Fishman Isle etc)Assuming Vivi really wants to personally help Alabasta even at the risk of getting killed, because I'd figure she's that brave of a would-be Queen, then she'd likely have to have someone like how Momo is being helped. I wonder what character would have to be brought in to help Vivi out though.
Dragon did seem to hold Cobra in high regard, so maybe either him or an affiliate of his would be willing enough to protect Vivi.
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I’m still surprised we’re not seeing more people clamoring for Bonney or Vegapunk in this thread
I think Wano was a big hit to many of the people here, seems like almost everyone thought someone would join that arc and this thread in particular has never been the same since
Which is a shame since I loved seeing people argue back and forth passionately here
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@Shiebs Wano was the big turnaround arc of the NW, being built up since Punk Hazard and having a scope that was as big, if not bigger than Marineford.
It was pretty much consensus that Wano was the last chance for anyone else to join, which is why arguments became fiercer than ever. Then the Yamato fakeout happened in the wonkiest way possible.
Doesn't help that by the end of the arc, we got an official group term for the 9 SH that follow Luffy (they're now Senior Officers, akin to Whitebeard's Division Commaners, Kaidou's Tobiroppo and Big Mom's Ministers), plus a scene where he shares his true dream with everybody else (and we see all their reactions in the same double page). Those two things do seem to indicate we're not getting any more newcomers, special exceptions like Vivi nothwithstanding, as they feel like things Oda was waiting to do for a long time, but needed the crew to be complete first.
Plus, it seems obvious the SH will leave Egghead with guests, be it Vegapunk, Bonney or whoever (hard to see anyone getting left behind if Egghead is to be nuked), so that's more people taking space in the ship.
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@King-Cannon I still think we’ll get one more member since BB has ten titanic captains under him, and there like the anti-straw hats of this story
Although telling the whole crew his true dream is pretty damning I’ll admit
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I would put the dream as damning evidence if it was revealed to the readers as well. With it being still a secret to us, there are more chances for that subject to come up, and even for the last crewmate to turn out linked or essential to it in some way.
Bonney has not done much in the arc. Was introduced, then fell unconscious, then went alone to explore Kuma's memories. I feel she will be big ahead, but I'm not seeing anything that says "meant to be a crewmate" in her. Even her powers seem very arc-specific (all those "Seraphim are still children" reminders in the same arc as her...).
I'm still betting on my old bet. You can be sure I will come here to celebrate if she appears in this arc.
Whatever the case, I don't think there's a lot of time ahead. I think the window for someone to join will open (or close) very soon(ish).
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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@Deicide said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I would put the dream as damning evidence if it was revealed to the readers as well. With it being still a secret to us, there are more chances for that subject to come up, and even for the last crewmate to turn out linked or essential to it in some way.
Meh. The initial reason for me is the most important part. Oda had an entire double page for it with each SH having their own reaction shot. Further talking about it won't have the same oomph as before.
I could very well see readers only learning this dream when Luffy accomplishes it at the very end of the series. For all intents and purposes, the primary figures in Luffy's life all know it (SH, Shanks and Sabo.), so Oda doesn't have to tackle it again until then. Yamato knowing it is also convenient if he wants more outside people to learn it for whatever reason.
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The closest I can see so far is Caribou or York and those 2 aren't even candidates to me. Just not looking like the time to join at this point.
