@Johnny-B-Decent It's green? That's interesting
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Need assistance with some translations and filler scenes.
In the anime, Ivankov says "blood will tell".
In the manga, he says something different, which is most likely the same sentiment.
Now they both can possibly be the same thing, but then in a filler moment in the recent episode, Queen says this to Sanji
The manga did not have good portion of that Sanji/Queen fight and discussion. Why did the anime add that?
I'm starting to feel the same vibe as when the anime would use filler to make me further suspect the possibility of Zoro being born with CoC. The gambling scene with Yasuie.
I'm thinking it's all just simply saying what Ivankov said in the manga panel above (he has your blood).
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Was it stated somewhere that the seraphim are only 7? Is it possibile that there is one for every pirate who has been a warlord?
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We know that while you can accelerate the process, you can't just create an adult clone out of nowhere. Germa takes fives years to grow a soldier, but they're just making normal humans. Maybe we can assume the gestation time for a Seraphim is cut down by booting them up as kids, but also expanded by needing to outfit them with lasers and ensure green blood compatibility. The bottom line of which being I'd be willing to accept that they just haven't had time to work on Seraphim for all the Warlords that joined in the past two years.
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@Captain-M The thing is that Bonney is in this arc... I really think she's going to make the Seraphim adults. I can't shake the feeling that the villain will recruit her with promises of restoring her father.
And even if Bonney does not join him, I was thinking about those age crystals that Bonney extracted from Vegapunk. If they contain Vegapunk's years, maybe they can be transfered to someone else?
If the Seraphim end up aged up indeed, there could potentially be more of them that are just too young right now to be deployed, and could then become teenagers/adults.
The thing is that each Seraphim is around an Emperor commander in power (I think), so who would be able to fight the 3 extra ones?
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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With all this talk of demons and heaven, I've pondered at the idea of vehicles in the One Piece world being able to travel to the underworld, aka "hell". The game Okami brought up this idea of having an Ark which lets you travel between celestial planes, so I think it would be pretty wild if Oda had something like Pluton the battleship be so out there, that you could basically travel to another plane of existence.
It sounds abstract, but I think Oda would be able to go for it if he wanted to.
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What you're also forgetting is that Seraphim are insanely expensive and require a lot of testing. Even after disregarding the time it takes for one to fully develop, other resources are still limited so Vegapunk can't just mass-produce them like regular Pacifista. The Seraphim strike me more as the "quality over quantity" type.
Bonney's powers are also still temporary on living beings by her own words, so if Oda ages up the Seraphim for this arc only and assuming that they'll stick around for the final war, they'll essentially be nerfed at that point because they'll be short of their full potential. Unless of course Oda introduces some other method to permanently age them up again. -
I don't see the Seraphim being used beyond Egghead. They are a nice way to get strong opponents and they carry some personal conflicts for the crew (at least the Kuma, Mihawk and Jinbe ones) but they aren't really interesting as characters. So, I imagine them turned into adults now, being defeated, and then returning to children, but now as "free" rather than just robots.
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Was it stated something about the relationship between Ulti’s father and Kaido? The wiki seem to imply that they knew each other
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Ok, so turns out Uta was 2 when Shanks found her, 19 years ago. So it would be.
Shanks - 20
Beckman - 31
Roux - 16
Yasopp - 28
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Lucky Roux's poor heart is the real workhorse of the Red Hair Pirates.
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Something I was thinking about last night, but isn't it weird how we've not seen anything of Smoker yet? Not even just there at G-14 in the background like we did with Tashigi. Even with all the cutaways to the Marines getting ready, Smoker is oddly absent. I at first thought it was because he was actually on Egghead but that seems unlikely now.
So I wonder if he's actually somewhere else entirely and only Tashigi stayed behind to help take care of the kids? Fujitora is also notably absent right now, as we know what Kizaru and Green Bull were last doing, but not Fujitora. Could the two of them be together? Last we saw Smoker was him reacting to what Fujitora did at Dressrosa afterall, so maybe he sought him out?
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@black-leg-jex Fujitora visited Egghead before the Reverie, so him and Smoker meeting there is feasible.
But he then went to Mariejois and the last we saw of him was between Act 2 and Act 3 of Wano (and he was recovering from fighting the Revolutionary Commanders) so Smoker being with him for all of that would be a little bit forced.
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If the Seraphim had Zoans of their animal motifs instead of artificial Paramecias, would that make them less or more deadly?
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I don't think so, with the possible exception of S-Hawk.S-Snake's too effective with the love love fruit, I can't see any other fruit making her as strong or stronger than that.
I feel S-Bear hasn't used his power to its fullest yet, but again, I don't see a zoan being better than the paw paw fruit. S-Bear just needs to step up his game with the toolkit he already has.
S-Shark has the fruit that makes him the strongest possible in land. I feel we also haven't seen he using it to its fullest, there are crazy water related stuff Jinbe can do that S-Shark, in theory, can do with solid floors and walls.
S-Hawk is the odd one out, since he got a fruit that feels pretty redundant. He already got natural resistence to damage, and he already has a blade. I don't know how Oda will use the dice dice fruit in any way that S-Hawk couldn't without it. So, maybe a zoan power that allows flight could actually have given him something new.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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@Deicide Yeah, you're right. I guess I just was imagining how they would look matching their animal motifs.
Still, I do kind of want to see S-Hippo as a literal hippopotamus.
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@Goukan said in Notions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads:
@black-leg-jex Fujitora visited Egghead before the Reverie, so him and Smoker meeting there is feasible.
But he then went to Mariejois and the last we saw of him was between Act 2 and Act 3 of Wano (and he was recovering from fighting the Revolutionary Commanders) so Smoker being with him for all of that would be a little bit forced.
Yeah, Fujitora and Smoker haven’t been seen for over 100 chapters, like Moria.
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Fujitora being all alone with a new faction who hunts Marines....
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I dislike seeing Bounce Man now. It just comes off boring and ugly.
Regular Luffy, Snake Man, G2, and G5 just look more fun.
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Have to agree, I like bounceman conceptually: it brings variety in form. It's a cute G4=SSJ4 allusion, wacky trade off... But as it is I never liked it aesthetically despite it all. And even less so with the diminishing value of the bounciness joke. Wish I liked it more
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even tho they are probably dead now, i wish heat ate orochis df and wire ate hawkins df
8 headed fire breathing and a literal scarecrow, wouldve been a cool powerup for kids crew + both are strong dfs based around hax -
Hello guys!
I want to share Reddit thread about chapter 1060, that i find pretty interesting and amusing, at least it is for me.
Reddit threadI know this have been discussed here for some extent(maybe only in discord, i don't remeber) when the chapter was released 7 months ago, but people in the reddit thread and in the comments there have speculated it further.
And yeah, i understand most of it is far-fetched and just a coincidence probably, i am not even sure that Oda meant to draw 16 lines, but i can't help myself and be fascinated by this.
And some of speculations sound pretty plausible, knowing Oda's love with a number plays and puns.I will summarise their speculations in a form of quotes from the thread, so you don't need to read all the comments.
Picture that started the thread.
""16 holy bullets" Doflamingo "
"Anyone know what chapter Doflamingo mentions this?"
"Chapter 790"
"7+9+0..."
"Volume 79 btw""1060 take away the zeros.. lol"
"Imu = I (1) mu (6)"
"Chapter 907 is The Empty Throne. 9+7. 16 = I-chi Mu-tsu.""Celestial Dragons shoots people who cross their path 16 times."
"Rayleigh gave the idea to Luffy to go back in Marineford and ring the bell 16 times."
There are more, like
"Celestial Dragons = 16 letters"
"Nami’s first bounty is 16 million"
"Volume 16 is called "Inherited Will"...and even more in the comments, but in my opinon it is stretching too far.
So i think number 16 is just liked by Oda or it will have some plot relevance down the line.
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Today I learned Ace's boat has a name - Striker
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The Roger pirates sketched in SBS 96 were only the “most important”, according to the author. Should we assume (or retcon) that all the ones appearing in Chapter 19 died before Roger’s last journey? In Oden’s flashback we only see the “most important” members
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So, we know the Great Kingdom of the past was friendly to the Fishmen, the Minkmen (through their mutual friend Wano), the Sky Peoples, and some Giants (the Jaguar clan). Possibly, they were the Lunarians who lived on the Red Line before Mariejois.
Could the Void Century and everything since happened just because the Twenty Kingdoms hated that a non-human, racially friendly society was "above" them?
-EDIT: Also, the ancestor of the Donquixotes did enslave the Tontatta, as well.
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@Johnny-B-Decent said in Notions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads:
So, we know the Great Kingdom of the past was friendly to the Fishmen, the Minkmen (through their mutual friend Wano), the Sky Peoples, and some Giants (the Jaguar clan). Possibly, they were the Lunarians who lived on the Red Line before Mariejois.
Could the Void Century and everything since happened just because the Twenty Kingdoms hated that a non-human, racially friendly society was "above" them?
-EDIT: Also, the ancestor of the Donquixotes did enslave the Tontatta, as well.
Anyone deemed to be of a lower class, yeah. That fish-men, dwarves, long legs, maybe even oni were friends with Joy Boy in the past and tried to save them once he saw them being mistreated.
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@electricmastro Maybe that's why Lili didn't join the World Nobles? Regret for having taken part in all of it.
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@Johnny-B-Decent said in Notions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads:
@electricmastro Maybe that's why Lili didn't join the World Nobles? Regret for having taken part in all of it.
If Lily is like Joy Boy, I'd suppose her righteous compass after having left the nobles encountered a civilization like Fish-Man Island or Zou and just couldn't bear to leave them.
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"Oda (2016): I had conceived the initial plot of Film Strong World to dig into the secret of Nami's birth. The movie staff was shocked to read the content. The story became a little too touching, so I revised it to be more exciting for the young audience."
Isn't it time to discuss this? Was it already known that "Nami's birth" has some kind of secret as well?
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I love this. I’m always expecting the secret of Nami’s birth to be revealed. But if it was possible to show that in Strong World does it mean she was meant to be the daughter of Shiki (or, if revised, any powerful pirate)? I always expected her to be a secret princess (another one), or even a Celestial Dragon. That would play well with her greed, making her choose between money, power and freedom
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@Chams-0 said in Notions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads:
I love this. I’m always expecting the secret of Nami’s birth to be revealed. But if it was possible to show that in Strong World does it mean she was meant to be the daughter of Shiki (or, if revised, any powerful pirate)? I always expected her to be a secret princess (another one), or even a Celestial Dragon. That would play well with her greed, making her choose between money, power and freedom
Well she and Nojiko were found at a kingdom, so maybe their parents had royal affiliation, maybe they didn’t.
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Well the initial story Bellemere told Nami was that she found Nami under a bridge, and we do know there's a giant bridge being built in East Blue. So maybe the "found under a bridge" part wasn't just a cover and the battle Bellemere almost died in took place on or around Tequila Wolf?
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Is it some meme or just a trend for those trying out OP for the 1st time to announce they are skipping Thriller Bark or Skypiea? I thought it was just a couple people just trolling on r/, but now it's every other week on Twitter.
It works. I'm talking about it now...
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Say, what would happen if Cross Guild went to Wano because Crocodile wants Pluton, and then Buggy was the one to introduce himself to Yamato?
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@Cockycent Feels like trolling, really.
@electricmastro said in Notions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads:
Say, what would happen if Cross Guild went to Wano because Crocodile wants Pluton, and then Buggy was the one to introduce himself to Yamato?
This scenario has crossed my mind. Plus, Buggy also knows the other Poneglyph is in Zou.
The guy could easily gain access to both by using the "Gold Roger crewmate" card. I'm not sure if the locals would be fine with it, but Croc and Mihawk are there in case they are denied access to anything.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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@Deicide said in Notions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads:
@Cockycent Feels like trolling, really.
@electricmastro said in Notions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads:
Say, what would happen if Cross Guild went to Wano because Crocodile wants Pluton, and then Buggy was the one to introduce himself to Yamato?
This scenario has crossed my mind. Plus, Buggy also knows the other Poneglyph is in Zou.
The guy could easily gain access to both by using the "Gold Roger crewmate" card. I'm not sure if the locals would be fine with it, but Croc and Mihawk are there in case they are denied access to anything.
That’s the thing. Would Oda have Yamato seem like a perfect defense for Wano only to hold back and falter because she sees Buggy as Oden’s friend?
Buggy also partied with Ace once in the past, even having ended up assisting Luffy in trying to rescue Ace. He’s also made out to be a very accomplished Emperor in the newspapers. Buggy could easily change up the narrative and convince Yamato that he’s there to pay his respects to his old dear friend Oden, when he’s really there because Crocodile wants Pluton.
Momo, Neko, and Inu would prob vouch for Buggy on the face of it since they all sailed with Roger and Oden. Might be how Buggy gets access to Zou’s poneglyph too.
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I find Sadboy notion to be really hilarious and I dont know why
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@trollatron786 said in Notions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads:
I find Sadboy notion to be really hilarious and I dont know why
Could be a possible hint from Oda that D. initials can just be given out of a D. carrier feels like it.
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This is just a small theory: Ivankov is indeed correct about Imu, they were originally Nemona Imu and one of the twenty founding kings. However, the rest of the kings were actually genuine in wanting to make a government where all kings and nations were equal, but as he is immortal, once his peers all died off, he used his seemingly Godly power to trick their sons and daughters into making him the sole occupant of the Empty Throne and set them on the path of corruption and decadence into the World Nobles of today.
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Just realized that I think that no more than two women at a time have ever travelled on the Sunny. If Lilith, Bonney, and Stussy leave with Straw Hats, then it could potentially make it five women leaving on the Sunny by the end of the arc.
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@Zurgats said in Notions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads:
Hello guys!
I want to share Reddit thread about chapter 1060, that i find pretty interesting and amusing, at least it is for me.
Reddit threadI know this have been discussed here for some extent(maybe only in discord, i don't remeber) when the chapter was released 7 months ago, but people in the reddit thread and in the comments there have speculated it further.
And yeah, i understand most of it is far-fetched and just a coincidence probably, i am not even sure that Oda meant to draw 16 lines, but i can't help myself and be fascinated by this.
And some of speculations sound pretty plausible, knowing Oda's love with a number plays and puns.I will summarise their speculations in a form of quotes from the thread, so you don't need to read all the comments.
Picture that started the thread.
""16 holy bullets" Doflamingo "
"Anyone know what chapter Doflamingo mentions this?"
"Chapter 790"
"7+9+0..."
"Volume 79 btw""1060 take away the zeros.. lol"
"Imu = I (1) mu (6)"
"Chapter 907 is The Empty Throne. 9+7. 16 = I-chi Mu-tsu.""Celestial Dragons shoots people who cross their path 16 times."
"Rayleigh gave the idea to Luffy to go back in Marineford and ring the bell 16 times."
There are more, like
"Celestial Dragons = 16 letters"
"Nami’s first bounty is 16 million"
"Volume 16 is called "Inherited Will"...and even more in the comments, but in my opinon it is stretching too far.
So i think number 16 is just liked by Oda or it will have some plot relevance down the line.
Confirmed: 16 nakama
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@electricmastro Technically, there was a very brief time when there were three women travelling in the ship: Nami, Robin and Camie the mermaid.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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@Deicide said in Notions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads:
@electricmastro Technically, there was a very brief time when there were three women travelling in the ship: Nami, Robin and Camie the mermaid.
Well then again, Camie was 16, so it can be said she didn't count as a woman since she was younger than 18, but moot point here I guess.
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If nothing else that 16 stuff is pretty interesting. I come in and read here and there and try to catch up on discussion and then Zelda keeps calling me back. The discussions for the last few chapters have been so good and I've contributed near nothing. Glad you all keep up solid One Piece discussion, ain't no better place for my tastes.
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Question: Do you guys think that if Im became immortal due to the Operation Fruit, would Law be able to undo his immortality, even if it meant Law sacrificing himself?
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@electricmastro Well, the thing is that the surgery only gives eternal life, not invincibility.
Unless Imu gets it and instantly drops dead from all the years catching up to him at once
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@Johnny-B-Decent said in Notions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads:
@electricmastro Well, the thing is that the surgery only gives eternal life, not invincibility.
Unless Imu gets it and instantly drops dead from all the years catching up to him at once
:PAh, well maybe the manga got that part wrong then.
