Not that it's something to celebrate, but I think India is starting to beat you.
Yeah we killin it down here. Out of vaccines, oxygen, meds and not to mention the new more potent variant is ripping through ahead
Not that it's something to celebrate, but I think India is starting to beat you.
Yeah we killin it down here. Out of vaccines, oxygen, meds and not to mention the new more potent variant is ripping through ahead
I got my first shot last month and will be getting my second this week. I'm not sure why my two shots are a month apart when many people got theirs just weeks apart.
First of all, it depends on which vaccine. The Moderna shots must be taken 28 days apart. Pfizer is 21 days apart. It can also be difficult to get open appointments in some areas, so some people might get there's a little late, which is ok as long as it's not excessively late.
A lot of people I know got sick after the second shot. I'm not worried about it as long as I'm immune for a while. It just sucks that nobody knows for sure how long the immunity lasts. I keep hearing 3 months and then at least 6 months. I hope they're good for at least one year.
We won't know for sure until enough time passes and we've studied enough people, and how much the virus mutates. It could just mutate itself into something milder like the 1918 flu.
People don't actually get sick after the shot. I mean they are not infected. The symptoms we get from pathogens is our body's immune response trying to get rid of them. Vaccines can create a similar response from our immune system, think of it as a practice drill. It seems to not last more than a day or two. So far most people I know felt crappy for one day and that's it, some just a sore arm.
Vaccine seems forced. I'll take my chances.
I really didn't take my shot (BioNtech) on monday too well. Got a fever and chills a couple hours after, didn't sleep at all the following night and was sweating buckets. Cramps and diarrhea the following day as well. Had to sit out 2 days of work, still a bit wobbly on my legs today. Getting my 2nd shot in roughly 5 weeks, let's hope I'm spared another (immune) system shock with that one. Interestingly enough, my sister, who is 1 year younger than me, got the same shot on the same day and didn't feel a thing besides an achy arm.
My wife and I have each gotten both our doses, and that second was a doozy. The injection didn't hurt at all, no visible mark after taking off the bandage, so I was wondering if it even went in. That answered itself, lemme tell ya. But I'm feeling great now!
My mom took a bit more coaxing, but she finally got the first shot. Went 20 miles to specifically get it at a hospital, but at least she's on track.
My wife and I have each gotten both our doses, […]
Glad to hear your wife and you are done with your shots! :) Luckily both my parents and what's left of my grandparents are also done! I'm not scared of needles or anything, the shot itself wasn't even noticeable, but as you said I sure noticed my organism was processing it!
Off-Topic: The doc tried to calm me down before the shot thinking I would be scared. When I replied that I was never afraid of needles and surely wouldn't start being after getting two pretty big tattoos in the past years, she, to my surprise, replied that her worst experiences when giving out shots was always with tattooed people. Is that a thing I just never picked up on?
, unless mandated by state law.
I have a huge problem with this because only about half of the population has taken the first shot and significantly less than half are fully vaccinated.
No one is going to check your vaccination card at the supermarket or at the movie theater. This is a green light for anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers to just do whatever they want, and freely spread the virus, which will lead to the creation of new variants that could put us all at risk.
, unless mandated by state law.I have a huge problem with this because only about half of the population has taken the first shot and significantly less than half are fully vaccinated.
No one is going to check your vaccination card at the supermarket or at the movie theater. This is a green light for anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers to just do whatever they want, and freely spread the virus, which will lead to the creation of new variants that could put us all at risk.
Seems like a last ditch effort to reach at least those who aren't complete anti-vaxxers (just lazy or still a bit cautious). Following the news it seems the US has more than enough vaccine doses, but they reached a ceiling concerning vaccination readiness? With that in mind, herd immunity through vaccination seems off the table anyway thanks to Trump, it's only a question of how many will have to endure the natural infection in the coming months.
And that said, I doubt people will accept measures anyway once everyone had at least the option to get vaccinated. It's going to be rough for those who can't take a shot due to other health problems, but our western society won't keep distance and wear masks because of a few thousand citizens. I wish we would adapt a more asian style behavior even outside a pandemic (especially in public transport), but that's simply not who we are :sad:.
This is a green light for anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers to just do whatever they want, and freely spread the virus, which will lead to the creation of new variants that could put us all at risk.
That's right, but I believe at this point we will have to accept it. If we won't produce new variants then our neighbours will anyway (for reasons out of our control) and we won't be limiting travel forever either. So we can only hope that the virus mutates in our favor in the next couple decades, while we keep adjusting vaccines accordingly.
Scientists are already mapping out the coronavirus genome much like they do for influenza. Sounds like we will have multivalent vaccines in the near future (which we already do for flu), and possibly universal vaccines for both shortly after. Time to finally say goodbye to the common cold? Exciting!
Also, please keep in mind that the main vector for new variants of human viruses is actually by jumping to and from other species. Yes, this vector is strengthened when there are more humans afflicted by a given strain, but I don’t recommend getting too pessimistic about people who won’t be convinced come hell or high water to vaccinate themselves or take precautions for others’ sakes.
There are always going to be stupid, belligerent people. The bright side is that despite them we collectively prevented a potentially species ending pandemic, here.
Also, please keep in mind that the main vector for new variants of human viruses is actually by jumping to and from other species. Yes, this vector is strengthened when there are more humans afflicted by a given strain, but I don’t recommend getting too pessimistic about people who won’t be convinced come hell or high water to vaccinate themselves or take precautions for others’ sakes.
There are always going to be stupid, belligerent people. The bright side is that despite them we collectively prevented a potentially species ending pandemic, here.
COVID is pretty unusual in that it seems to be able to use some immunocompromised hosts as a proving ground for new mutations.
That means the more vulnerable people who are exposed to the virus, the faster it evolves new strains.
Yes, that’s how viruses work in general.
My point still stands. The damage has already been done (ala Trump), and all that remains is to eventually reach herd immunity one way or another.
That said, you should be encouraged by the rapid response of the medical community to this novel disease and hopeful for the future. In my opinion.
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Case in point: COVID-19 likely came from bats. Not other immuno-compromised people.
Got my shot and turned in an alligator as our dear leader proclaimed it would happen. (This is a non serious post as I probably won't get my first shot before december/januray).
I got my second shot and I feel good. Too good. I'm going to spend the next few days worrying about symptoms, though the first shot only gave me some aches.
It's a huge relief either way.
I got my second shot this week. I had some feverish symptoms starting around 12 hours later, lasting until about 36 hours. Feel back to normal now, though, and yeah it’s a huge relief!
Vaccine seems forced. I'll take my chances.
Nothing like completely ignoring all of medical science, scientific studies, statistics, etc., because you're willfully ignorant.
I honestly wonder how people like this must see the world. How do pictures travel through the air and get inside my tv? It must be the Devil! That would explain all the violence.
How come when I drop something it falls to the ground? Gravity? That seems forced. It is definitely the Devil, he lives underground and his greed is limitless so he must pull everything towards himself in his desire to obtain it.
Nothing like completely ignoring all of medical science, scientific studies, statistics, etc., because you're willfully ignorant.
I honestly wonder how people like this must see the world. How do pictures travel through the air and get inside my tv? It must be the Devil! That would explain all the violence.
How come when I drop something it falls to the ground? Gravity? That seems forced. It is definitely the Devil, he lives underground and his greed is limitless so he must pull everything towards himself in his desire to obtain it.
Million dollar raffles, french fries, scholarships, even those who react with anger like yourself prove my point.
3 people sit next to each other at a baseball game. 2 vaccinated and 1 isn't. All have mask. Can the two fully vaccinated individuals still spread Covid? Yes.
Yet, the unvaccinated individual is considered inconsiderate for not getting vaccinated? You've been convinced that vaccinate people can't spread and it's a lie.
Vaccine helps your immune system fight it and not get extremely sick.
This talking point of being inconsiderate that is being passed around is the core of the anger going around.
"Mask don't work" –-> "Mask are effective" ----> Mask aren't necessary here and here -----> Mask aren't necessary for vaccinated people who can still spread it
It's all a game to put the economy before the health of the people. If they really cared, they would have established a real lockdown. Not that joke of a lockdown from last year. They don't care for your health tho. They got you brainwashed and common sense isn't available at the moment.
You’re wrong because there is some truth to what Roboblue said. People who haven’t been vaccinated are more likely to be incubators for the virus for longer periods of time, affording it more of a chance to mutate.
You owe it to others whose health is not as good as yours to get the vaccine. It’s not difficult and it costs nothing, so why wouldn’t you?
The crux of the argument is that something like 70% of the population will need to be immune to COVID-19 before it will go away. That means chances are very high that you will need to either catch the disease or get the vaccine before we achieve herd immunity.
Of course, you can feel free to gamble if that’s what you want. But there’s plenty of evidence that COVID-19 is more than capable of killing otherwise perfectly healthy people, even people in their 20s/30s, even children. Is that a risk you really want to take?
Or would you rather the slight inconvenience of a vaccine that has proven to be 100% effective at preventing severe symptoms and death from the disease? For me the choice is obvious.
When people will understand that public heath is a civic duty. That's how we got rid of polio and smallpox.
Million dollar raffles, french fries, scholarships, even those who react with anger like yourself prove my point.
3 people sit next to each other at a baseball game. 2 vaccinated and 1 isn't. All have mask. Can the two fully vaccinated individuals still spread Covid? Yes.
Yet, the unvaccinated individual is considered inconsiderate for not getting vaccinated? You've been convinced that vaccinate people can't spread and it's a lie.
Vaccine helps your immune system fight it and not get extremely sick.
This talking point of being inconsiderate that is being passed around is the core of the anger going around.
"Mask don't work" –-> "Mask are effective" ----> Mask aren't necessary here and here -----> Mask aren't necessary for vaccinated people who can still spread it
It's all a game to put the economy before the health of the people. If they really cared, they would have established a real lockdown. Not that joke of a lockdown from last year. They don't care for your health tho. They got you brainwashed and common sense isn't available at the moment.
What are you even talking about, fully vaccinated people are less likely to spread the virus. Why do you need to be difficult lmao. You can get be public health conscious and help the economy, they're not mutually exclusive.
No point in trying to rationalize using logic and data with someone who believes in their own stupidity above all else. Some people use their brains to think, research, examine data, and others just decide based on how they feel usually influenced by religion, politics, or whatever social connection makes them feel special.
Just so nobody can say I didn't even bother to try and produce data though I'll provide this report the CDC posted about the effectiveness of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines among health care personnel.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7020e2.htm
Doubt he'll read or care as he hasn't up to this point so…
TLDR: This study was done using health care personnel who generally have a high exposure rate to COVID-19. A single dose of Pfizer or Moderna was found to be 82% effective while 2 doses were 94% effective. That is even higher than the initial clinical trials the companies carried out, most likely because a higher proportion of these people are actively working and younger than 65. The mRNA vaccines are highly effective at preventing systematic COVID-19 among health care personnel and is critical to stopping the virus.
I wear mask, disinfect everything, and keep my distance. The vaccinated people that were just given the greenlight to not wear mask are gonna spread it more than I ever could. You're being illogical and not convincing at all. Not trying to be a lab rat just to fit in.
I notice how you're acknowledging that those vaccinated can definitely still spread it, yet they will now shine their vax card, so they don't have to wear mask. What did Biden say less than 4 days ago?
lol you can't make this up
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When people will understand that public heath is a civic duty. That's how we got rid of polio and smallpox.
Multiple Polio vaccines were tested from 1935 - 1950.
Took 3 years to get a license and wasn't mainstream til 1955.
Covid vaccine has been around, but not tested til last year. Anyone getting vaccinated is volunteering for said test. I thank them and will think about in 2024.
Not the best tweet, Pres, but he's technically right. It's your choice. We just think it's a bad choice.
Multiple Polio vaccines were tested from 1935 - 1950.
Took 3 years to get a license and wasn't mainstream til 1955.
Covid vaccine has been around, but not tested til last year. Anyone getting vaccinated is volunteering for said test. I thank them and will think about in 2024.
Bloody brilliant, let's compare vaccines created during a global pandemic against one created for a established illness. Oh better yet let's compare the 30-50s medical knowledge and safety standards to those of today, I'm sure nothing has changed.
Well if you wanna contract one of the painful but vaccine prevented diseases and end up in a coffin or with a life long side effect disability cause by said diseases, be my guest but move to a cabin in the woods beforehand.
It’s pretty simple math - the more a virus can reproduce, the more it can mutate.
Immunized people are capable of carrying and spreading a virus, yes, but their immune systems naturally keep the virus population inside them very low.
If you’re not immunized, then your body allows the virus to run rampant inside you until you naturally develop immunity. That means the virus population spikes inside you, and that means the virus has more chance to develop a beneficial mutation before transmission to another creature.
Do the right thing, protect others from a potentially fatal disease, get your shot! I believe in you, sort of.
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Also, lol at the idea of avoiding being a "lab rat" in favor of being susceptible to an uncontrolled pathogen that literally alters your DNA. Because, you know, that's what viruses do.
Covid vaccine has been around, but not tested til last year. Anyone getting vaccinated is volunteering for said test. I thank them and will think about in 2024.
I think you should consider one thing if you haven't already:
Side effects, in the history of vaccination (= over 200 years of scientific research), always occured days or few weeks after application. There is not a single scientifically proven negative side effect popping up years later, doesn't matter about what vaccine we're talking about.
And if we keep that in mind, it doesn't make much sense to wait 3 more years - we already have such a ridiculous amount of data that even side effects applying to 1 in 250.000 cases could be detected! One year of research may not seem like much, but it's more than just compensated through the sheer scale of distribution.
Sure, no one can give us a guarantee that the new mRNA vaccines are comparable to the regular vector-based vaccines, but if one is really that unsure he/she can still opt for Johnson & Johnson (I think it's readily available in the US, yes?).
So go for it Cockycent if you have the chance! I actually do like to read your posts every now and then so it would be kind of sad if you just vanished one day.
I said this earlier:
If you’re not immunized, then your body allows the virus to run rampant inside you until you naturally develop immunity. That means the virus population spikes inside you, and that means the virus has more chance to develop a beneficial mutation before transmission to another creature.
Not-so-fun fact: What makes HIV so effective at ruining peoples' lives is that it reproduces and mutates so quickly that by the time your immune system has developed an immunity to it, the virus has already changed forms enough for the immunity not to work against it.
I'm not so sure if this is the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if the reason this strain of coronavirus is so… virulent is because it is not only highly contagious but is also prone to faster mutation. We've got to do everything we can to prevent this thing from multiplying. The less it multiplies, the less likely it is for it to change into something even worse.
And it's already bad enough as is, if you ask the millions of people who have lost loved ones.
Bloody brilliant, let's compare vaccines created during a global pandemic against one created for a established illness. Oh better yet let's compare the 30-50s medical knowledge and safety standards to those of today, I'm sure nothing has changed.
Well if you wanna contract one of the painful but vaccine prevented diseases and end up in a coffin or with a life long side effect disability cause by said diseases, be my guest but move to a cabin in the woods beforehand.
I started to disinfect and wear mask before the all knowing science and head of state said it was ok. I will continue to do so when all the vax extremist stop wearing mask. They will spread it more than I ever will.
The only rational pro vax individual i've heard from is her. There are multiple stories of people taking 1 of the Big 4 vaccines and either dying or suffering from horrible side effects. And many of them are pro vax. What do they fellow advocates say "well, it's just 1 in 1 million". Yeah, I see what this is. Throwing french fries and scholarships at people to achieve herd immunity and the pharmaceutical companies can't be liable. It's too obvious.
Can I sue for willingly volunteering myself? Nope. The human trial used to be voluntary over 12-15 years in the 30-50s. I'll be generous and say it should take about 4 years today. Actually, lets go 3 years.
We are less than a year into voluntary testing. I'll wait it out. CDC has it on their site rn that people can spread after being fully vaccinated, yet they continue to be inconsistent with their messaging that people choose to take direction from. CDC and FDA just said they believe less than 70% of their own employees are vaccinated and we're 6 months in.
Talk about public confidence. They should enter their employees into the million dollar raffles or throw some french fries at em.
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I think you should consider one thing if you haven't already:
Side effects, in the history of vaccination (= over 200 years of scientific research), always occured days or few weeks after application. There is not a single scientifically proven negative side effect popping up years later, doesn't matter about what vaccine we're talking about.
And if we keep that in mind, it doesn't make much sense to wait 3 more years - we already have such a ridiculous amount of data that even side effects applying to 1 in 250.000 cases could be detected! One year of research may not seem like much, but it's more than just compensated through the sheer scale of distribution.
Sure, no one can give us a guarantee that the new mRNA vaccines are comparable to the regular vector-based vaccines, but if one is really that unsure he/she can still opt for Johnson & Johnson (I think it's readily available in the US, yes?).So go for it Cockycent if you have the chance! I actually do like to read your posts every now and then so it would be kind of sad if you just vanished one day.
Not trying to be the dismissed 1 in 250,000. I've been outside at least 5 times a week since this thing started last year and never got sick. I'll stick to mask and let the vaccinated people spread with no mask.
Still banking on that 30% chance that you won't have to get vaccinated or infected before we hit herd immunity, eh? Good luck.
Vaccines are controlled, they're not going to spread through the air to vulnerable populations, and they're definitely not going to evolve into something more dangerous. But hey, you do you.
Well, you never know. I always wear my mask and wash my hands, but I still got ill in late January. Just have to make one single mistake and it's done. I asked my relatives and all, but I couldn't even find who gave it to me…
I wonder, does Cockycent think that we spend at least three years testing and verifying the safety of the new flu vaccines that come out each year?
You know, those vaccines that people have been getting yearly. For decades. That have crazy high efficacy and are designed to fight the flu strains before they even evolve?
I'll never understand antivaxxers.
I'll never understand antivaxxers.
There are some people who still think the Earth is flat. Just some people have a case of terminal stupidity.
Covid vaccine has been around, but not tested til last year. Anyone getting vaccinated is volunteering for said test. I thank them and will think about in 2024.
I mean… yes there was some reason to be concerned about how well the vaccines were tested under the Trump administration, but at this point over 355 million people are fully vaccinated and only a very small number of women who were given two specific vaccines suffered any significant side effects.
That means the vaccines are now safer and more thoroughly tested than a lot of the stuff you probably take on a regular basis.
That means the vaccines are now safer and more thoroughly tested than a lot of the stuff you probably take on a regular basis.
Specially if we account that the opioide crisis is due to Big Pharma bullying and bribing FDA to approve addictive painkillers.
I mean… yes there was some reason to be concerned about how well the vaccines were tested under the Trump administration, but at this point over 355 million people are fully vaccinated and only a very small number of women who were given two specific vaccines suffered any significant side effects.
That means the vaccines are now safer and more thoroughly tested than a lot of the stuff you probably take on a regular basis.
Am I supposed to dismiss the deaths that conveniently happen to people right after the jab? I'm just not trying to be the small number of people that got the "we don't know if it was underlying conditions or not" and they aren't liable for it at all.
We're basically agreeing that the test was those 355 million and said test is still in play. Dr. Gregory Michael died in Florida, who was also an advocate for the vaccine, don't count now? The CDC reports that it was from natural causes in April, but then shortly after, the AstraZeneca manufacturer has recommended that anyone with a history of blood clotting problems avoid it for the time being and take one of the other ones. 3 days after the 1st jab, and his wife is still saying he was healthy and still practicing, he just conveniently noticed severe broken blood vessels on his feet and hands.
People talking about common decency and civic duty, then turn around and say "only 2 people died or showed side effects". That's inhumane. Maybe I should go up to a widow and say "well, he's just 1 in over 300 million". The things being said to "encourage" are having the opposite effect. Like the paralyzed women said in the video as she advocated for the vaccine, they should advertise the side effects as much as they promote the vaccine.
You can't do that when you want to encourage tho. Not new either. Everyday drugs have ads with fast forward words or faded font of the side effects. This is a business and for economical purposes. As long as people are back out spending, the economy is saved.
So Bavaria (Germany) dropped all priority groups for all covid vaccines today, at least for those distributed outside of the big vaccination centers. Guess what, got a call from our family doctor this morning that I have an appointment on wednesday.
Bizarre, especially after they told me last week that they're not even done with the 70+ patients. I assume they're simply tired of calling patients who didn't bother to put themselves on the waiting list at this point, at least I can't think of any other reason why it should be my turn this early.
Still pondering whether I should feel bad for taking the offer, but on the other hand if one didn't bother to take the innitiative after months of constant media coverage then maybe it's fine…
The vaccines only last so long, even while in cold storage. If the people who need them most are refusing to show, then literally anyone else who hasn’t been vaccinated yet will do. Don’t let them go to waste!
Congrats on getting an appointment, good luck!
Every shot given is a step into the right direction. As you said, your vaccine dose might end up in the trash and literally wasted if you don't get it, so don't feel bad about it because others have chosen not to get it for themselves before you did.
Alright, got the shot today!
Asked my doctor why I got such an early appointment and it seems it was due to luck and several other factors I didn't consider. For those who're interested and not from Germany, this is roughly the situation here:
Unlike the US we don't have enough vaccine for everyone until late summer (possibly fall), which means we can't pull a full force vaccination-offense with distribution in restaurants or malls and whatnot. Thus the vaccine we have is split between big vaccination-centers and family doctors. The first operates on a strict priority group, the latter can act how they see fit since monday.
And while pragmatic, this approach of course creates disparity and bad blood, at least as long as we don't have enough vaccine. Not every German has a family doctor, while virtually every general practioner in my area only considers their regular clients, not new ones (good luck if you just moved…). And even if you are in the computer, each doctor can order and vaccinate as they see fit. Some order the maximum amount of vaccine available to them, others just as much as they can distribute with very little effort, others opt out completely for various reasons.
With that in mind, my own case demonstrates the discrepancy perfectly:
My doctor runs her clinic together with her husband, which means their patient base isn't higher than others, but because vaccines are distributed [by doctor] and not by number of patients, they can effectively order twice the amount of vaccine. And they do.
The moment the priority system was dropped (this week) they decided to send everyone above 60 to the vaccination centers. Reason being that she's only using the Pfizer Vaccine, which is recommended for age group 16-60. She didn't outright say it, but it was made more or less clear that she has no interest nor the time to phone after people, especially if it involves persuading 60+ people to take a AstraZeneca shot (the reputation of AZ is practically ruined here, for various totally overblown reasons).
So at this point she simply called those with the highest pontential compliance rate, those who are most likely to take their appointment. Means everyone who already made an effort to get on the waiting list.
And then I was lucky that I picked up the phone monday morning. Since all they use is Pfizer they simply can't afford to waste anything they've opened, so they would have just taken the next on the list if they wouldn't have reached me.
So yeah. She told me I shouldn't worry and that I didn't take a shot from someone who needed it more, but as you can see it's still… weird. Maybe one just has to swallow inequalities during a global pandemic, but that the chance to get vaccined depends on your doctor (if you have one!) and how he / she handles it is just... fucked up.
And as a reference, my Mom (age 64), in a priority group, doesn't have an appointment in a vaccination center to this day (thankfully she got her shot from her doctor...).
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Oh, and if it matters: I didn't turn into a lizard yet. Sore arm (super minor), that's it.
(the reputation of AZ is practically ruined here, for various totally overblown reasons).
You'd think that after all the controversy around that vaccine, but for some reason there are (luckily) still a lot of people who are unfazed. Just last saturday about 850 people were standing in line to get the AstraZeneca vaccine, some even arrived as early as 5am, came from more distant regions and/or brought a camping chair with them lol
And as a reference, my Mom (age 64), in a priority group, doesn't have an appointment in a vaccination center to this day (thankfully she got her shot from her doctor…).
Does she also live in Bavaria? I know that we're better off than other states, my mom who's living in Lower Saxony is still waiting for a second appointment proposal because she couldn't take the first one, and that one she also got only recently while I was already vacccinated four weeks ago (I was in group 3). I don't know anyone here in Bavaria who's registered for the state vaccination program, is in a priority group and hasn't gotten an appointment yet
EU states are being really dicks with AZ, my mother has hypertension and arrhythmia and took AZ without any complications besides some mild fever and body aches for 2-3 days.
You'd think that after all the controversy around that vaccine, but for some reason there are (luckily) still a lot of people who are unfazed. Just last saturday about 850 people were standing in line to get the AstraZeneca vaccine, some even arrived as early as 5am, came from more distant regions and/or brought a camping chair with them lol
Yeah I would have taken it too in a heartbeat, one doctor here had an open AZ day as well but only for patients registered in their healthcenter…
I do understand that my doctor doesn't want to bother with it though, my mom's doctor (who uses whatever he can get his hands on) said it's nothing but trouble and he was about to give up on it as well after Söder (our federal minister) said that AZ could still be used for "those who dare…" :getlost:.
Does she also live in Bavaria? I know that we're better off than other states, my mom who's living in Lower Saxony is still waiting for a second appointment proposal because she couldn't take the first one, and that one she also got only recently while I was already vacccinated four weeks ago (I was in group 3). I don't know anyone here in Bavaria who's registered for the state vaccination program, is in a priority group and hasn't gotten an appointment yet
I removed her from the program today, but I believe she was unfortunate enough to be too late for the first large wave of 1. Appointments and now she's stuck because they're only doing second appointments for the remainder of May/early June.
I could also imagine that the amount of prio-people varies a lot between districts and vaccination centers, especially in rural areas with a higher amount of older people compared to the bigger cities. Just guessing though.
EU states are being really dicks with AZ, my mother has hypertension and arrhythmia and took AZ without any complications besides some mild fever and body aches for 2-3 days.
I wouldn't judge anyone who refuses AZ, it's ultimately their choice as long as they don't clog the waiting lists. But what really drives me nuts is when politicians, privileged people in power who should know better, scare people out of a perfectly fine vaccine for… fuck I don't even know why they would do that (it's not like we're swimming in vaccine like the US).
I mean I would judge because we barely have vaccines here. National production of AZ and Coronavac are suspended this week due to lack API supplies. And the VIP (Vagabonds in Power) boast that we vaccinated 50M people (less than 40M had the full immunization) while we refused to sign contracts with Pfizer and Coronavac 14 TIMES last year. When he bought 20M doses for R$1,5B of the Covaxin vaccine that was vetoed by our Public Health Organ.
https://www.rawstory.com/black-fungus-surges-among-indias-19-patients/
The hell is going on in India?
Oh, when I saw AZ, I thought it meant Arizona for a quick sec. XD
Has anyone who got vaccinated had a loss of smell after getting injected ? like a side effect or what
Nope, I still smell my cats' poop as pungent as ever.
Has anyone who got vaccinated had a loss of smell after getting injected ? like a side effect or what
Anosmia is a symptom of having been infected by the virus. The vaccines, however, do not cause it.
Some people have reported their coronavirus anosmia persisting after they recovered from the infection. Lots of people waiting to get their sense of smell/taste back.
This symptom is one of the reasons I’m concerned we will find out that there are lots of neurological problems caused by COVID-19 that we didn’t detect at first. Yikes.
Super interesting report from the UK concerning the effectiveness of Pfizer / AstraZ, especially the chart on page 8:
Incredible how much protection you get from just the first shot. Sure we will have to get the booster shot at one point anyway, but I wonder how much quicker we could have gone through this with just focusing on first shots for the broad masses….(I think canada goes that route?).
(@Nilitch, I smelled my coffee this morning just fine)
Well, the problem for me is that I got ill in late January and I still cannot taste good wine :sad: Most of my smell + taste came back in the meantime. But there are so many layers of smell and taste that I can't get anymore. Like when I smell a good wine, it tastes like a shitty wine …. I hope that the vaccine will improve my smell, otherwise meh "the moral stakes behind the injection"...