Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 7 - Wano)
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How many people actually believe in the number theory? Cause if were going off that Kinemon definitely has the best chances based off his disguise disguise fruit
That being said he's also boring as hell, overlaps with certain other straw hat's themes, and has a wife in Wano who I assume he wants to reconnect with when all this Kaido business is said and done and probs help look after little Momo as his new position as Shogun
so that leaves the paw paw fruit and the meat meat fruit right? anything I'm missing?
EDIT: Also the Paw Paw fruit is a bit too OP, I mean you can send someone flying away for three days if you merely touch them, and you can remove pain and injury from a person which means the straw hats will never be fatigued for long, meaning Chopper is no longer needed
unless you know Oda just casually forgets those abilities like he does sometimes with Observation Ambition or future sight
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How many people actually believe in the number theory? Cause if were going off that Kinemon definitely has the best chances based off his disguise disguise fruit
That being said he's also boring as hell, overlaps with certain other straw hat's themes, and has a wife in Wano who I assume he wants to reconnect with when all this Kaido business is said and done and probs help look after little Momo as his new position as Shogun
so that leaves the paw paw fruit and the meat meat fruit right? anything I'm missing?
EDIT: Also the Paw Paw fruit is a bit too OP, I mean you can send someone flying away for three days if you merely touch them, and you can remove pain and injury from a person which means the straw hats will never be fatigued for long, meaning Chopper is no longer needed
unless you know Oda just casually forgets those abilities like he does sometimes with Observation Ambition or future sight
Kinemons wife has been waiting 20 years for his return, for Kinemon to leave his wife behind for an adventure would be the ultimate stab in the back.
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Kinemons wife has been waiting 20 years for his return, for Kinemon to leave his wife behind for an adventure would be the ultimate stab in the back.
Pretty much what I was trying to say
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I doubt Kuma can send everyone away like that
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Pretty much what I was trying to say
He would be like Goku but yeah,Kinemon in the crew is a No for me. After this arc,he will have served his role in the story and there is nothing more he can take to the story.
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Been a long time since I've been here, was looking through this thread for good theories about the next/final crewmate. Your post really struck me and I found it very convincing, but the more I think about it, the more I also start doubting aspects of it. I'd never considered that Momo would want to learn the Poneglyphs and, as it stands, Robin is really the only one who can teach him. On the other hand, though.. Does he really need to learn it? Hear me out here: basically everyone either already believes or will fully believe that Luffy will fulfil Roger's (and Oden's) wills (we clearly saw that with Pedro's sacrifice in WCI). So assuming that everyone has complete faith in the Straw Hats to take the Poneglyphs to the end, what use will there be for them after that?
I'm definitely not saying that this is an argument against Momo, I'm just thinking how I don't know if he necessarily needs to learn about them now. If he wants that knowledge later just for the sake of preserving the knowledge, he could always learn it after everything in the series is said and done. I still think you make a good argument and it seems very possible, just maybe there isn't as much of a need for point 1 right now.
Also @ point 3, with Carrot also joining, that would bring the amount of crewmates up to 12, which is one more than what the concensus always held. I don't know if over my years of absence people have convincingly argued that 12 members is very possible, but I remember people being dead-set on the final figure of 11 because
1. Luffy said at the very beginning he wanted 10 crewmates, which was by and large interpreted as 10 people aside from himself
2. Blackbeard's crew currently has 10 captains and him as Commodore, so unless he gets one extra (which is possible I guess) the number wouldn't add up to give everyone a 1v1 at the end
3. Oda loves football so it'd be nice in concept to have the same number as a football teamSo I don't know about 2 more people joining.
Momo might not need to learn to read them, but since they mentioned that it was a tragedy that Oden doed before teaching him, thats something they would want changed. It all depends on the importance they put on him knowing.
As far as the crew number limit, what you are referring to is something Luffy said while in East Blue. He said he wanted at least 10 crew mates before entering the grand line.
Although I see the big 3 consistently getting 1v1 fights, I think team ups will be more common among the support fighters. That way 2 weaker cree crew members can take down a BB Captain.
The football argument is foolproof. No rebuttal from me.
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Although I see the big 3 consistently getting 1v1 fights, I think team ups will be more common among the support fighters. That way 2 weaker cree crew members can take down a BB Captain.
So you think it's a pure coincidence that the Straw Hats are only 1 member off of matching the number of Blackbeard's main crew at this point in time?
I've also seen it said that 1v1s for every main character at the end of a series is a Shounen trope, but as I don't read any others I can't judge on this and someone else will have to elaborate.
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The technique that Momo did not learn was the carving of the poneglyphs. There could be a Poneglyph which Robin could translate for Momo. But at this point Momo having the voice of all things bypasses the need of a translator. In fact, Oden could very easily have left a message for Momo and the latter gets to hear his father and potentially mother's voice on last time.
I do not think there is any need for the last crew member to be a fighter. In fact, that type of struggle has room to be very interesting. Something like Yahiko in Rurouni Kenshin during the last arc of the manga.
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@K.:
The technique that Momo did not learn was the carving of the poneglyphs. There could be a Poneglyph which Robin could translate for Momo. But at this point Momo having the voice of all things bypasses the need of a translator. In factor, Oden could very easily have left a message for Momo and the latter gets to hear his father and potentially mother's voice on last time.
I do not think there is any need for the last crew member to be a fighter. In fact, that type of struggle has room to be very interesting. Something like Yahiko in Rurouni Kenshin during the last arc of the manga.
Is this based on what Linlin said? That can be interpreted another way. Idk if this is a confirmed VOAT ability
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I doubt were gonna get a defenseless crewmate, especially when Oda had an entire training arc timeskip so they wouldn't be a burden on Luffy
and they'll have to fight one of Black Beards 10 Commanders at the end of the series
seriously guys that's basically the number 1 qualification at this point to be a crewmember is that you need to be able to handle yourself, hence why people don't think Tama or Momo will join
obviously they need lots more too, flashback, dead mentor, dream, role on the Sunny, but if they can't handle themselves in a fight and don't have a unique fighting style they ain't joining
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Tama or Momo possibly not joining has nothing to do with power levels for me.
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Have we entertained the idea that Blackbeard's 10th commander is also a newbie Est type? Not personally expecting it, but would be interesting.
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Blackbeard doesn't invite weaklings though, unless it's his wife.
So at best we would be getting…. Tama vs. Blackbeard's girl?
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Hey now maybe he saw the potential in Apis and invited her onboard to speed level her up to 100 in the new world.
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Going by design, Denjiro is already in the front race for 11 crewmate.
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Going by design, Denjiro is already in the front race for 11 crewmate.
His design wasn't all that interesting, he kind of looked like a young version of Zoro's teacher, kunia's dad
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Blackbeard has a wife?!
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@The:
Blackbeard has a wife?!
I think they're referring to how Black Beard told Bonney she was to weak to be in his crew, unless she wanted to be his wife
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I think they're referring to how Black Beard told Bonney she was to weak to be in his crew, unless she wanted to be his wife
Okay, that makes more sense. Thanks.
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How many people actually believe in the number theory? Cause if were going off that Kinemon definitely has the best chances based off his disguise disguise fruit
That being said he's also boring as hell, overlaps with certain other straw hat's themes, and has a wife in Wano who I assume he wants to reconnect with when all this Kaido business is said and done and probs help look after little Momo as his new position as Shogun
so that leaves the paw paw fruit and the meat meat fruit right? anything I'm missing?
EDIT: Also the Paw Paw fruit is a bit too OP, I mean you can send someone flying away for three days if you merely touch them, and you can remove pain and injury from a person which means the straw hats will never be fatigued for long, meaning Chopper is no longer needed
unless you know Oda just casually forgets those abilities like he does sometimes with Observation Ambition or future sight
Devil Fruits names aren't always so straightforward. Many are abbreviations of longer words and others have names only tangentially related to what the fruit does (i.e Sugar's fruit). With a little creativity, Oda could probably make any kind of power fit the number theory.
Kin'nemon's fruit makes clothes so it's the 'Clothing' fruit. Perfectly natural. The suspicious thing would be if someone shows up with a DF with a contrived named that just so happens to fit.
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Is this based on what Linlin said? That can be interpreted another way. Idk if this is a confirmed VOAT ability
This has been implied throughout the series. Rayleigh explicitly stated that no one in their crew knew how to read the poneglyphs. That Roger could "hear voices".
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I doubt were gonna get a defenseless crewmate, especially when Oda had an entire training arc timeskip so they wouldn't be a burden on Luffy
I wouldn't call them defenseless, just weak. I do not think that having the two year time skip matters at all. That would imply that if Luffy found someone he liked, but they were weak he would not invite them. Which, to me, makes no sense.
and they'll have to fight one of Black Beards 10 Commanders at the end of the series
The greatest underdog fight of the series. Sounds like one of the more exciting fights that could happen considering that the new weak member would have to use their wits to overcome someone out of their league.
seriously guys that's basically the number 1 qualification at this point to be a crewmember is that you need to be able to handle yourself, hence why people don't think Tama or Momo will join
Seems to be more of a fan made qualification.
obviously they need lots more too, flashback, dead mentor, dream, role on the Sunny, but if they can't handle themselves in a fight and don't have a unique fighting style they ain't joining
They would have a unique fighting style.
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@K.:
This has been implied throughout the series. Rayleigh explicitly stated that no one in their crew knew how to read the poneglyphs. That Roger could "hear voices".
I am wrong for questioning this, you're right. Agreed, Rayleigh does note this. Between what BM said and Luffy not being able to command Zunisha or the Sea Kings, the abilities definitely vary.
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So you think it's a pure coincidence that the Straw Hats are only 1 member off of matching the number of Blackbeard's main crew at this point in time?
I've also seen it said that 1v1s for every main character at the end of a series is a Shounen trope, but as I don't read any others I can't judge on this and someone else will have to elaborate.
I would like to see 1v1s. I'm saying that based on what we've seen in the new world so far. I could see Momo just being given something else to do. Especially if he's an extra man anyway.
It also seems like the SHs will now be consistently working with strong allies. So, they don't need to ALL be OP anymore.
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@K.:
I wouldn't call them defenseless, just weak.
Usopp is supposed to always be the weakest in the crew Oda said in an SBS so I doubt we'll get a little kid to join
@K.:
I do not think that having the two year time skip matters at all.
WHAT!?! how can you think a two year break from the crew so that each member would be able to hold there own weight in the new world doesn't matter
The entire point of the time skip was that they were to weak for the new world
so why oh why in the world if they went through all that training and learning because they weren't strong enough, would they then, take in a child who's nowhere near the strength they were pre time skip, it just doesn't make any fathomable sense
@K.:
That would imply that if Luffy found someone he liked, but they were weak he would not invite them. Which, to me, makes no sense.
Hmm kind of like how Shanks liked Luffy a lot but didn't let him join the crew when he was a kid because he couldn't handle himself and would have gotten hurt… well at least it's not like Luffy idolizes Shanks or something
@K.:
The greatest underdog fight of the series. Sounds like one of the more exciting fights that could happen considering that the new weak member would have to use their wits to overcome someone out of their league.
Again Usopp fills this role, in fact he does this all the time
especially seeing how his Black Beard counterpart to Usopp, Van Auger, is Black Beards third commander and will probs kill Usopp's dad, who is one of Shanks Big Three, basically Usopp's gonna have to beat a guy waaaaaaaay out of his league
@K.:
Seems to be more of a fan made qualification.
No it's pretty obvious actually, you don't seem to remember the point of the time skip, the entire point was smacked in to them at Sabody, your weak, you won't survive the seas ahead if you don't get stronger
I'm not saying a person has to be insanely strong, to join but I'm willing to make a bet that the last crewmember will at least know how to handle themselves in a fight and won't be a kid
@K.:They would have a unique fighting style.
I'm pretty sure Oda can make an interesting fighting style out of just about anything, so yeah I agree
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@K.:
The greatest underdog fight of the series. Sounds like one of the more exciting fights that could happen considering that the new weak member would have to use their wits to overcome someone out of their league.
You mean literally every single Usopp fight?
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Yeah, didn't Oda say Usopp would always be the weakest Strawhat? Or is that just another one of those things people started saying at some point and it became a thing even though it wasn't?
So no new member should be weaker than Usopp because being the underdog is Usopp's whole thing. He seems like a reasonable bar to measure people against.
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Yeah, didn't Oda say Usopp would always be the weakest Strawhat? Or is that just another one of those things people started saying at some point and it became a thing even though it wasn't?
So no new member should be weaker than Usopp because being the underdog is Usopp's whole thing. He seems like a reasonable bar to measure people against.
Oda did say that.
Also, we already have Nami and Usopp for those types of fights. I don't want to see anymore of that. It can be funny at times, but the reality is that there are monsters in the OP world and not everyone can be that weak.
This is what leads me to believe that the Strawhat after Jinbei is not gonna be another Usopp type character.
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Shiebs, a lot of your answers refer to a child character, while I am not talking about a child. So it is hard to answer because you are setting up context which I am not. I will respond either way. Also, to put things in perspective. I do not think we have met the last crew member yet.
Usopp is supposed to always be the weakest in the crew Oda said in an SBS so I doubt we'll get a little kid to join
Like I could say: hey, if Oda can change his mind about the amount of crew members after 20 years. Then Usopp may not end being the weakest after all. But that wouldn't be in good faith. I am not talking about children joining the crew.
So, Usopp can still be the weakest combatant in the crew. I would love to see a non combatant be added to the crew. For example, from all the new character we've had. I would have like Big News Morgans to join because he sets perfectly well in terms of freedom of expression, corrupt journalist turned good because of Luffy's influence. His struggle, could be to document the entire last fight which will dictate the fate of the world. His obstacles? Blackbeard member + government officials, just survivng in an event that huge (Morgans doesn't even know how to fly, but he will still take the picture!).
I believe Oda has the creative freedom to have a non-combatant in the crew, even if they would have to face against one of ten titanic captains.
WHAT!?! how can you think a two year break from the crew so that each member would be able to hold there own weight in the new world doesn't matter
The entire point of the time skip was that they were to weak for the new world
Because that is in the past, they are now the crew that will face two allied emperor forces. If they somehow win in any sort of way, I wouldn't see why they wouldn't take in apprentices. Maybe not child young, but 15-17 are fair game.
so why oh why in the world if they went through all that training and learning because they weren't strong enough, would they then, take in a child who's nowhere near the strength they were pre time skip, it just doesn't make any fathomable sense
Luffy also said that he trained to protect everyone, and the crew can now handle themselves after all that training. If they want someone to come along, they will make it work. But, more importantly, you keep referring to children, when I a talking about weak or non combative crew members.
Hmm kind of like how Shanks liked Luffy a lot but didn't let him join the crew when he was a kid because he couldn't handle himself and would have gotten hurt… well at least it's not like Luffy idolizes Shanks or something
Again, not talking about children. That said, Luffy said that he would surpass Shanks' crew, that could even be a conflict point between them. Luffy, trusts the kid can handle themselves, Shanks disapproves, they fight.
Again Usopp fills this role, in fact he does this all the time
especially seeing how his Black Beard counterpart to Usopp, Van Auger, is Black Beards third commander and will probs kill Usopp's dad, who is one of Shanks Big Three, basically Usopp's gonna have to beat a guy waaaaaaaay out of his league
You mean literally every single Usopp fight?
Even Luffy will fill the underdog role against Blackbeard. Does not make them weak. Nami, Chopper, even Brooke fill that role as they are not powerhouses like Zoro, Sanji and even Franky or Robin. But again, that does not make any of them weak. Like Usopp being the weakest means shit, when he can snipe you where you cannot even see him anymore, you need a devil fruit power to be able to see where the shot landed or Usopp's newly acquired haki. Something that by the final war will have progressed.
I know Oda said Usopp would be the weakest, but I would say Usopp is far from being weak. The same with the rest of the crew. So, all I am saying is that reacquiring another version of old-Usopp (maybe one that isn't cowardly), isn't something bad. For example a Rockstar.
No it's pretty obvious actually, you don't seem to remember the point of the time skip, the entire point was smacked in to them at Sabody, your weak, you won't survive the seas ahead if you don't get stronger
I remember perfectly well the point of the time skip. The crew succeeded at getting stronger. That doesn't mean they will discriminate others for being weak. That sounds more like what the fake Luffy was doing before they got reunited. "Your bounty is only 23 million?!"
I'm not saying a person has to be insanely strong, to join but I'm willing to make a bet that the last crewmember will at least know how to handle themselves in a fight and won't be a kid
And years back people said that Jimbe was too strong to join the crew. While it was obvious that the gap in strength, but more importantly in competence was going to be shrunk after the 2 years training. Remember, Jimbe said that with him and Nami as navigator they would be able to sail anywhere they want. The point being, strength means nothing, and has never meant anything when deciding whom would join the crew.
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Pirate captain luffy needs a parrot.
Blackbeard has his bird lafitte, WB has bird marco, kaidou has his bird King, bm at least wanted king, shanks wanted marco.
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Sanji is a bird. Represents Sora and Garuda
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@uniaka:
Pirate captain luffy needs a parrot.
Blackbeard has his bird lafitte, WB has bird marco, kaidou has his bird King, bm at least wanted king, shanks wanted marco.
Easy, Marco joins.
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@uniaka:
Pirate captain luffy needs a parrot.
Blackbeard has his bird lafitte, WB has bird marco, kaidou has his bird King, bm at least wanted king, shanks wanted marco.
Luffy got em all beat. He's got flying duck Sanji and flying robin Robin.
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Roger also had that egg on his ship.
Sanji and robin can fly and all but still difference between them and bird zoan like maybe morganz, just like there is difference between superman and a bird. and he would make better lookout then carrot since he can also fly ahead and scout the area. or maybe they get a reptile, a dragon.
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So you think it's a pure coincidence that the Straw Hats are only 1 member off of matching the number of Blackbeard's main crew at this point in time?
I've also seen it said that 1v1s for every main character at the end of a series is a Shounen trope, but as I don't read any others I can't judge on this and someone else will have to elaborate.
I would like to see 1v1s. I'm saying that based on what we've seen in the new world so far. I could see Momo just being given something else to do. Especially if he's an extra man anyway.
It also seems like the SHs will now be consistently working with strong allies. So, they don't need to ALL be OP anymore.
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Yeah waiting until Zoro.
Still I have no doubts that the 20 years old rookies will take over Jinbe by a good margin sooner or later.
If not already at Wano.
Talking about patterns
Shanks crew mentions only Ben and Lucky plus Yasopp
We have 3 admirals
Gold, Silvers and ScopperWB, Kaidou and Big Mom at Rocks
The SHs are as fuck crew so why comparing them to the likes of people a completely other structure
Not even talking about all the dynamic the M3 posses between them
And Shanks being significantly above the rest, except.Ben maybe, which brings us back to captain vice captain dynamic.
You have a fleet admiral and then 3 admirals, so pretty much working against you.
Same as rocks and the later yonkou, who were below rocks himself back then, which sengoku underlined.
Roger crew once again has the captain vice captain dynamic. The metal thing could mean something, could also mean nothing, especially since you still have Pt and Pd as non oxiding metals.So yeah, you only have the 1+3 or 1+1 dynamic.
If you want to argue the SHs is special, you might not br wrong, but there is nothing suggesting that right now.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Option 1, Yonkou + 3 Top Guys:
! ….........................Luffy.............................
! Zoro..........................................................
! .........................................................Sanji
Jinbe.........................................................Option 2, Pirate King + Dark King Zoro, plus some other guys who are strong:
! ….........................Luffy..............................
Zoro..........................................................
! Sanji..........................................................
..........................................................Jinbe
Franky........................................................
..........................................................RobinThese are your options, pick one.
This pretty much
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And Shanks being significantly above the rest, except.Ben maybe, which brings us back to captain vice captain dynamic.
You have a fleet admiral and then 3 admirals, so pretty much working against you.
Same as rocks and the later yonkou, who were below rocks himself back then, which sengoku underlined.
Roger crew once again has the captain vice captain dynamic. The metal thing could mean something, could also mean nothing, especially since you still have Pt and Pd as non oxiding metals.So yeah, you only have the 1+3 or 1+1 dynamic.
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This pretty much
Ok so I think Usopp will be the 4th at the end instead of Jinbe.
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@K.:
Shiebs, a lot of your answers refer to a child character, while I am not talking about a child. So it is hard to answer because you are setting up context which I am not. I will respond either way. Also, to put things in perspective. I do not think we have met the last crew member yet.
Like I could say: hey, if Oda can change his mind about the amount of crew members after 20 years. Then Usopp may not end being the weakest after all. But that wouldn't be in good faith. I am not talking about children joining the crew.
So, Usopp can still be the weakest combatant in the crew. I would love to see a non combatant be added to the crew. For example, from all the new character we've had. I would have like Big News Morgans to join because he sets perfectly well in terms of freedom of expression, corrupt journalist turned good because of Luffy's influence. His struggle, could be to document the entire last fight which will dictate the fate of the world. His obstacles? Blackbeard member + government officials, just survivng in an event that huge (Morgans doesn't even know how to fly, but he will still take the picture!).
I believe Oda has the creative freedom to have a non-combatant in the crew, even if they would have to face against one of ten titanic captains.
Because that is in the past, they are now the crew that will face two allied emperor forces. If they somehow win in any sort of way, I wouldn't see why they wouldn't take in apprentices. Maybe not child young, but 15-17 are fair game.
Luffy also said that he trained to protect everyone, and the crew can now handle themselves after all that training. If they want someone to come along, they will make it work. But, more importantly, you keep referring to children, when I a talking about weak or non combative crew members.
Again, not talking about children. That said, Luffy said that he would surpass Shanks' crew, that could even be a conflict point between them. Luffy, trusts the kid can handle themselves, Shanks disapproves, they fight.
Even Luffy will fill the underdog role against Blackbeard. Does not make them weak. Nami, Chopper, even Brooke fill that role as they are not powerhouses like Zoro, Sanji and even Franky or Robin. But again, that does not make any of them weak. Like Usopp being the weakest means shit, when he can snipe you where you cannot even see him anymore, you need a devil fruit power to be able to see where the shot landed or Usopp's newly acquired haki. Something that by the final war will have progressed.
I know Oda said Usopp would be the weakest, but I would say Usopp is far from being weak. The same with the rest of the crew. So, all I am saying is that reacquiring another version of old-Usopp (maybe one that isn't cowardly), isn't something bad. For example a Rockstar.
I remember perfectly well the point of the time skip. The crew succeeded at getting stronger. That doesn't mean they will discriminate others for being weak. That sounds more like what the fake Luffy was doing before they got reunited. "Your bounty is only 23 million?!"
And years back people said that Jimbe was too strong to join the crew. While it was obvious that the gap in strength, but more importantly in competence was going to be shrunk after the 2 years training. Remember, Jimbe said that with him and Nami as navigator they would be able to sail anywhere they want. The point being, strength means nothing, and has never meant anything when deciding whom would join the crew.
Sorry for taking so long to respond, and also for assuming you were one of the ones who wanted Momo and Tama to join, or if I was being a bit mean in my responses
I don't feel like breaking down each and every point
the one big thing I think we see differently in this is that when I said Luffy wouldn't take someone who was weak into his crew, I didn't mean he would have the reasoning of Black Beard or Fake Luffy as you pointed out
the difference between them is the Bad guys only want power which is why they don't want weak crewmembers and see them mainly as tools, where as Luffy would be afraid for there safety when he is not around them to protect them
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No need to apologize. I do not think a kid would join, unless they are something like Big Mom in her youth. They cause so much destruction that the crew takes them in to give them a home. This wouldn't be my idea of non-combatant or weak member though. I did write an idea where Tama becomes a new guest at the Sunny. But it was contingent on Shinobu's power maturing her until she was a granny. Giving an excuse to bring to the forefront Bonney, Kuma, the Reverie and Vegapunk after the events in Wano. However, I do make a distinction that she would be a guest, not a crew member.
No need to break down anything, I do, it is easier to reply that way.
Luffy was worried about Zoro when he fought Mihawk. Luffy will worry about his crew members, the two year time skip has not invalidated that. He trusts them, but he was worried about Sanji when he left for WCI. I think the real difference is that we have not made the distinction between: defenseless vs weak. I think is doubled down with your idea of a child joining. So not only are they a kid, but they are weak for the seas ahead. That is why, my best example of the type of character, I would like to join as a weak/non-combatant is Big News Morgans. With 100% certainty he would not be able to fight against a titanic captain, so how does he win? How does he capture the greatest war and story, while evading certain death at the hands of not only pirates, but CP0 and government drones/machines of destruction?
See, Usopp will be an underdog, but Usopp can fight, he is, after all, becoming a brave warrior of the sea. So even though he will face the same dangers as Morgans, he has the tools to defend himself and even others. I can just imagine Usopp sniping enemies while dodging fire from Van Auger. As real snipers in a war. Yes, yes "Oda said that Usopp would be the weakest". That is why I make sure to say: "I want/would like this type of character to join". However, Usopp can be the weakest combatant, if a distinction like that can be made.
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I would imagine that the crew still needs a tracker / scout. Someone has the idea of a treasure hunt and traces and hints can follow or read.
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Chopper's senses, Usopp, Luffy, Jinbei, Zoro and Sanji's CoO
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What if Kawamatsu is Jinbe's son an part of his "unfinished business" he had to attend to before joining the crew. And that's why Oda delayed Jinbe's joining until after Wano. -
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What if Kaeamatsu is Jinbe's son an part of his "unfinished business" he had to attend to before joining the crew. And that's why Oda delayed Jinbe's joining until after Wano.Jinbe is 46 post-timeskip. The current Wano flashback is ~30 years in the past, making Jinbe ~16 at the time it was occurring.
Though we don't have Kawamatsu's age (so far as I know), he seems to be around the same age as Inuarashi and Nekomamushi, which would seemingly make him around 10 in the flashback and 40 in the present. So unless Jinbe had a kid at the age of 6, I'd say that's probably not the case.
Now a long-lost sibling or nephew, on the other hand…
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The unfinished business was with BM.
I'm waiting to see if Namur is in the upcoming chapters. There's 3 fishmen that can possibly be attached to WB putting fishman island under his protection. Based on Jinbe's words, WB did this before Fisher Tiger and Otohime made changes in history.
Also, Jinbe (46) is no more than 8 years older than Kawamatsu. Kawamatsu looked around 5-9 years old, 33 years ago. Can't be his pops
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Just finished rereading the entire whole cake Island arc
and I've got to say, even though I don't think she'll end up joining, I really wouldn't mind if Carrot did join, I like her character, she has good vibes with the crew and she's just fun in general
She really hasn't done much in Wano though
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Just a random thought,but about O-Tama joining the crew: people says she is too young,and thats certainly true,but what if we get a timeskip after the Wano-Reverie arc?
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I could see a timeskip for a few weeks at most, not more than that though… but she is still joining. : )