While I can't find a clip of Jerry saying they finished dubbing One Piece and Fairy Tail from a convention in 2018
I don't think there was ever any clip of it or anything, someone just claimed it was something he said at a convention
While I can't find a clip of Jerry saying they finished dubbing One Piece and Fairy Tail from a convention in 2018
I don't think there was ever any clip of it or anything, someone just claimed it was something he said at a convention
Yikes. So that makes two rumors of cancellation. I’ll start taking them seriously in October after the 20th anniversary has passed with no news.
At least with live action shows, you know whether there will be a new season or not. With this, we could go years (as we have) without knowing. I wonder how many dub only watchers have switched to subs by now. And if that’ll impact the dub sales or streaming views. My girlfriend is a dub only watcher. We’ve been trying to watch one subbed episode a month for the past few months to satiate, but I suppose I’d like to know if it’s cancelled, if it is, so we can just start marathoning the sub.
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Nebulandia trailer:
Them using the generic FUNi logo for the thumbnails for One Piece stuff recently isn't helping the rumors
I still don’t like the “complete your collection” phrasing. This trailer was a little boring for me, though not bad.
The trailer highlights their interviews. I wonder if they’ll give us any hints in those.
Bah. Rumors of cancellation were aplenty before. I think its the length of the hiatus that makes me consider it could mean that Funi is indeed dropping One Piece. Not some silly rumors.
The stuff I posted is not a rumor, VAs have come out and said that they dont know whats going on and other sources have said that production "wrapped up". These have been confirmed and are true but things could of course be in the works to change and maybe they plan on releasing what they have done of Punk Hazard before recording more but who knows.
The stuff I posted is not a rumor, VAs have come out and said that they dont know whats going on and other sources have said that production "wrapped up". These have been confirmed and are true but things could of course be in the works to change and maybe they plan on releasing what they have done of Punk Hazard before recording more but who knows.
Any sources? I haven’t heard either of those things. Only posts about script writing for Punk Hazard and voicing the body switches.
Also, “wrapped up” could easily just mean wrapped up this season or this production term. I take that in no way to mean “wrapped up” the whole series. Not that you’re saying that. But one people reading will assume.
In episode 18 of the podcast they have one of Funimation’s video editors come on as a guest. He makes a lot of the trailers and kept almost calling the Nebulandia special Episode of East Blue (and then straight up just said Episode of East Blue). He claims to like One Piece but isn’t super caught up or anything so he probably wouldn’t know the special unless he had been working on a trailer for it recently. I didn’t think we’d heard that was coming out.
I noticed that too, but I'm not necessarily sure he was confusing the two specials; the impression I got was that maybe he wasn't sure if the East Blue special had been announced and was hesitating on whether he should mention it. But yeah, later in the interview he outright mentions editing a trailer for Episode of East Blue
Funny. Well, I'm not sure I want to pay full price for a recap movie, but anything to support the series… They better not be wondering why DVD sales dip for this one...
They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Seems clear if they're resorting to dubbing the recaps that they are having a hard time moving forward with the episodes... I'm not sure what it means to resort to dubbing the worst material you can find that you know will produce the least returns. Usually, that would be a good thing--if even the recaps were worth the expense of licensing and dubbing. But I have no idea where they're at or what they're thinking if they release them.
Funny. Well, I'm not sure I want to pay full price for a recap movie, but anything to support the series… They better not be wondering why DVD sales dip for this one...
They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Seems clear if they're resorting to dubbing the recaps that they are having a hard time moving forward with the episodes... I'm not sure what it means to resort to dubbing the worst material you can find that you know will produce the least returns. Usually, that would be a good thing--if even the recaps were worth the expense of licensing and dubbing. But I have no idea where they're at or what they're thinking if they release them.
Episode of East Blue's a decent way to get people into the series in only an hour and a half.
If people like the live action show but don't want to immediately dive into the soon-to-be 900+ episode series, Netflix can recommend them the dubbed specials.
It might work.
Can someone timecode when they mention this?
Around 53.20 (and briefly mentioned at around 45.55)
Hmmm, well I guess thats a good sign that they're releasing it even if the dub of the anime itself is still held up. Hopefully that means that the dub continuing in the fall, probably in October, is indeed true
Ugh. So this means we’re more likely to get Episode of East Blue in September than season ten. Even more opportunities for them to delay.
Episode of East Blue might end up being the first Funi One Piece Blu-ray that I just don't bother with. Two of the five segments had already been given the "Episode of" treatment in dedicated specials and four had their stories cut to shreds to fit in the tiny runtime they were given. Granted, I have to pay extra for these things because of international shipping and import taxes, so I'm not the audience that Funi is actually looking for.
When it came out I watched it on Crunchyroll via a proxy, so I guess it's subjective weather or not that counts as watching it officially or not.
Shudders. Who's ready for an Episode of Sky Island dub in November? At least I've got Nebulandia to look forward to, which I remember enjoying.
I wish they'd go back and dub the earlier movies and TV specials.
Jango's Dance Carnival deserves a dub.
I wish they'd go back and dub the earlier movies and TV specials.
Jango's Dance Carnival deserves a dub.
Yesssssssss. Haha. Thatd be great fun.
For whatever reason, it’s easier for them to acquire dubbing rights for newer stuff; acquiring the simulcast rights first eases the process of acquiring dubbing rights, for some reason. Otherwise, they’d be doing plenty of old specials and movies long before East Blue.
I’d be okay with a six month break after season ten where they switch to releasing a movie every month or so. That would be a fine break in between seasons.
I want to apologize ahead of time if I come off as a bit too optimistic about the dub continuing. As Krupp said in an earlier post "don't be like Roman Mack" and more recently ProjectRevolt2019 (who was likely Roman Mack, since after they joined the forum they immediately started posting in this thread in manner similar to Roman Mack). Unlike RM I won't insult people for legitimately worrying about the dub (especially considering the fact that Funimation hasn't made any recent announcements about the main series).
I do have to wonder if in order to get 3D2Y and Nebulandia, Funimation had to license Episode of East Blue as a package deal (I read somewhere when they initially licensed the series, Movie 8 was also part of the deal). And Toei is having Funimation release them rather than sit on ones that might not be big seller on DVD (Episode of East Blue), before they can release more episodes on DVD.
I very much believe this is on Toei's end and is not out of a lack of interest/sales for Funimation. Toei's been playing this game of being needlessly difficult with their licenses for years, not just with One Piece but with Dragonball as well. Like this feels like it did when Funi couldn't get the rights for Water 7 and beyond, or how there was a three year gap in-between the Japanese release of Kai 2.0 and Funimation announcing they had the rights/were dubbing it, in spite of the fact that we had confirmation from voice actors that the dub had been recorded way earlier. Funimation going ahead and dubbing Punk Hazard and then not releasing it screams 'Toei's doing their same ol' shit' to me.
Why would they go through the process of writing the dub's script for Punk Hazard, getting the voice actors in the booth (which a considerably bigger task than it used to be considering some the cast don't live in Dallas/Fort Worth anymore) for multiple sessions, when they don't have plans to continue releasing the series past Fishman Island?
I very much believe this is on Toei's end and is not out of a lack of interest/sales for Funimation. Toei's been playing this game of being needlessly difficult with their licenses for years, not just with One Piece but with Dragonball as well. Like this feels like it did when Funi couldn't get the rights for Water 7 and beyond, or how there was a three year gap in-between the Japanese release of Kai 2.0 and Funimation announcing they had the rights/were dubbing it, in spite of the fact that we had confirmation from voice actors that the dub had been recorded way earlier. Funimation going ahead and dubbing Punk Hazard and then not releasing it screams 'Toei's doing their same ol' shit' to me.
Why would they go through the process of writing the dub's script for Punk Hazard, getting the voice actors in the booth (which a considerably bigger task than it used to be considering some the cast don't live in Dallas/Fort Worth anymore) for multiple sessions, when they don't have plans to continue releasing the series past Fishman Island?
I've heard this from previous posts on this and other sites about Toei being a notoriously difficult company to work with for foreign distributors. But why is that? It seems like other studios know when they license a property to a foreign distributor it's kinda out of their hands to what another company does with it. They might retain some control, such as approving the dub cast, but that might be about it. I can't find an article that details Toei relationship with other companies, aside from a page on the Transformers Wiki, which says the reason that Funi was able to get Dragon Ball and One Piece to begin with was due to fact that Gen Fukunaga's uncle was a producer for the company in the past and that other companies attempted to make an offer to license Sailor Moon, but refused until Viz (which is owned by three Japanese companies: Shueisha, Shogakukan, and ShoPro respectively) made the offer.
The only other studio that I heard was kind of difficult to work with was Sunrise, but that only seems to be in regards to Gundam, specifically when a company dubs one of them (with one saying that a representative from Sunrise sits in on the dubbing session).
I've heard this from previous posts on this and other sites about Toei being a notoriously difficult company to work with for foreign distributors. But why is that? It seems like other studios know when they license a property to a foreign distributor it's kinda out of their hands to what another company does with it. They might retain some control, such as approving the dub cast, but that might be about it. I can't find an article that details Toei relationship with other companies, aside from a page on the Transformers Wiki, which says the reason that Funi was able to get Dragon Ball and One Piece to begin with was due to fact that Gen Fukunaga's uncle was a producer for the company in the past and that other companies attempted to make an offer to license Sailor Moon, but refused until Viz (which is owned by three Japanese companies: Shueisha, Shogakukan, and ShoPro respectively) made the offer.
The only other studio that I heard was kind of difficult to work with was Sunrise, but that only seems to be in regards to Gundam, specifically when a company dubs one of them (with one saying that a representative from Sunrise sits in on the dubbing session).
It's really impossible for us to know for sure, I guess. But that seems to be the case based on the pattern of behavior regarding Toei and the handling of their properties overseas. I can't imagine Funimation particularly wants to sit on dubbed Dragonball content for multiple years at a time because it basically prints money, and there isn't any benefit to holding out for so long. As you mentioned, Sailor Moon, one of Toei's most profitable franchises and one with an established US fanbase, was unlicensed for a long time until Viz picked it up a few years back. But, like you also mention, that also wasn't from a lack of trying from other companies including Funimation. Properties like Dragonball and Sailor Moon, and to a lesser extent One Piece, are pretty safe money, but for all three there have been multiple stretches of time where new material, groups of episodes, or even entire series go unlicensed for seemingly no reason.
Something else I thought about while writing all of this is the difficulty Toei themselves have had in the past with licensing their properties. Dragonball and One Piece, two of their biggest properties, both went through some growing pains in the US before settling in. Like Dragonball had the Harmony Gold dub back in the 80's, then they tried to relaunch it in the mid 90's with the Ocean dub (which even then floated around in syndication until Cartoon Network picked it up), then it finally settled into the in-house Funimation dub we know today. I mean, I'm not sure if all of that negatively impacted the series' popularity since it was a 'right place, right time' kinda situation when it took off, but I'd imagine Toei's management did not like seeing a series that had a lot of potential popularity in US markets fall on its face twice over the course of a decade. And obviously 4Kids One Piece exists, which handicapped the series and damaged the brand in the US for years. And I can't speak the DIC dub for Sailor Moon, but I think it's telling that getting your hands on a copy of it now requires some digging and shelling out the money for out-of-print DVDs. Toei's been burned by companies mismanaging their properties in the US, and I think what we're seeing now is them exercising a tighter grip on their properties. That's just my two cents anyway.
I very much believe this is on Toei's end and is not out of a lack of interest/sales for Funimation. Toei's been playing this game of being needlessly difficult with their licenses for years, not just with One Piece but with Dragonball as well. Like this feels like it did when Funi couldn't get the rights for Water 7 and beyond, or how there was a three year gap in-between the Japanese release of Kai 2.0 and Funimation announcing they had the rights/were dubbing it, in spite of the fact that we had confirmation from voice actors that the dub had been recorded way earlier. Funimation going ahead and dubbing Punk Hazard and then not releasing it screams 'Toei's doing their same ol' shit' to me.
Why would they go through the process of writing the dub's script for Punk Hazard, getting the voice actors in the booth (which a considerably bigger task than it used to be considering some the cast don't live in Dallas/Fort Worth anymore) for multiple sessions, when they don't have plans to continue releasing the series past Fishman Island?
It's possible, but here in Germany we're starting Dressrosa in less than a week. So others haven been able to license past Fishman Island.
Remember Italy, they started before Germany and are still being screwed over by Toei. They are at the EXACT Same point Funi is IIRC.
IIRC, the Korean dub of One Piece is a simuldub. The company that produces it only work on One Piece though, as Simuldubs aren't common place over there. So Toei clearly don't have an issue with certain territories - I can't remember who the company is, but do recall that they don't dub anything else.
Dont forget Thailand! I think they, before Korea, had the dub closest to the Japanese.
It's really impossible for us to know for sure, I guess. But that seems to be the case based on the pattern of behavior regarding Toei and the handling of their properties overseas. I can't imagine Funimation particularly wants to sit on dubbed Dragonball content for multiple years at a time because it basically prints money, and there isn't any benefit to holding out for so long. As you mentioned, Sailor Moon, one of Toei's most profitable franchises and one with an established US fanbase, was unlicensed for a long time until Viz picked it up a few years back. But, like you also mention, that also wasn't from a lack of trying from other companies including Funimation. Properties like Dragonball and Sailor Moon, and to a lesser extent One Piece, are pretty safe money, but for all three there have been multiple stretches of time where new material, groups of episodes, or even entire series go unlicensed for seemingly no reason.
Something else I thought about while writing all of this is the difficulty Toei themselves have had in the past with licensing their properties. Dragonball and One Piece, two of their biggest properties, both went through some growing pains in the US before settling in. Like Dragonball had the Harmony Gold dub back in the 80's, then they tried to relaunch it in the mid 90's with the Ocean dub (which even then floated around in syndication until Cartoon Network picked it up), then it finally settled into the in-house Funimation dub we know today. I mean, I'm not sure if all of that negatively impacted the series' popularity since it was a 'right place, right time' kinda situation when it took off, but I'd imagine Toei's management did not like seeing a series that had a lot of potential popularity in US markets fall on its face twice over the course of a decade. And obviously 4Kids One Piece exists, which handicapped the series and damaged the brand in the US for years. And I can't speak the DIC dub for Sailor Moon, but I think it's telling that getting your hands on a copy of it now requires some digging and shelling out the money for out-of-print DVDs. Toei's been burned by companies mismanaging their properties in the US, and I think what we're seeing now is them exercising a tighter grip on their properties. That's just my two cents anyway.
4KIDS didn’t just hurt the brand for a few years. Most people who watched Dragonball tried it when it was on and now hate it. There’s a lot of OP hate that originated with the terrible dub
4KIDS didn’t just hurt the brand for a few years. Most people who watched Dragonball tried it when it was on and now hate it. There’s a lot of OP hate that originated with the terrible dub
Oh for sure, the 4Kids dub handicapped One Piece's popularity from the onset, especially with how the industry in America worked in the mid 2000's. But we're 13 years removed from 4Kids having the rights to the series, and I think that 4Kids is mostly regarded as a strange footnote in the series history in the US. Like the rise of simulcasts and streaming, and the end of major competition like Naruto and Bleach have really helped One Piece's reputation recover in the states I think. Like I think dubs in general don't have as much of an impact on if a series takes off here because anime in the states has moved away from television, where it needs a dub to reach a wider audience, to streaming on a service like Crunchyroll with subtitles. Anime doesn't ride so much on the back of decent quality dubs anymore, it's more about convenience and availability through streaming. It's also worth considering how anime in general has become more mainstream in the 2010's. This is all mostly conjecture, but anecdotally I've had a lot of people I know in real life get into One Piece over the past year and half/two years. Like on the ground, I've never encountered more One Piece fans. I think that the easy availability of it now thanks to streaming combined with a gap left by Naruto and Bleach and positive word of mouth from existing fans who are caught up (especially in the past few years during arcs like Whole Cake and now Wano)
I usually try to steer away from the idea that 4Kids permanently hurt the series. People forget. 13 years, a hard rebrand, and a change in the way the US consumes anime I think have been enough to push the 4Kids dub out of the collective conscious and reset One Piece back to zero at least.
I’m not sure I agree, but it’s impossible to gauge this sort of thing. In my experience, the average anime fan tried OP back when 4KIDS had it—back when everyone in our age group was getting into anime—and most people didn’t like it and have kept their impression.
It's really impossible for us to know for sure, I guess. But that seems to be the case based on the pattern of behavior regarding Toei and the handling of their properties overseas. I can't imagine Funimation particularly wants to sit on dubbed Dragonball content for multiple years at a time because it basically prints money, and there isn't any benefit to holding out for so long. As you mentioned, Sailor Moon, one of Toei's most profitable franchises and one with an established US fanbase, was unlicensed for a long time until Viz picked it up a few years back. But, like you also mention, that also wasn't from a lack of trying from other companies including Funimation. Properties like Dragonball and Sailor Moon, and to a lesser extent One Piece, are pretty safe money, but for all three there have been multiple stretches of time where new material, groups of episodes, or even entire series go unlicensed for seemingly no reason.
Something else I thought about while writing all of this is the difficulty Toei themselves have had in the past with licensing their properties. Dragonball and One Piece, two of their biggest properties, both went through some growing pains in the US before settling in. Like Dragonball had the Harmony Gold dub back in the 80's, then they tried to relaunch it in the mid 90's with the Ocean dub (which even then floated around in syndication until Cartoon Network picked it up), then it finally settled into the in-house Funimation dub we know today. I mean, I'm not sure if all of that negatively impacted the series' popularity since it was a 'right place, right time' kinda situation when it took off, but I'd imagine Toei's management did not like seeing a series that had a lot of potential popularity in US markets fall on its face twice over the course of a decade. And obviously 4Kids One Piece exists, which handicapped the series and damaged the brand in the US for years. And I can't speak the DIC dub for Sailor Moon, but I think it's telling that getting your hands on a copy of it now requires some digging and shelling out the money for out-of-print DVDs. Toei's been burned by companies mismanaging their properties in the US, and I think what we're seeing now is them exercising a tighter grip on their properties. That's just my two cents anyway.
Thank you for shedding some more light on the topic. It does seem odd that Toei relationship with Funimation is somewhat complicated (I can't think of an actual word to properly describe their relationship), considering that Funimation has yet to actually burn them in regards to their properties, unless that Rock the Dragon Collection was something Toei didn't approve of. From what I've read on the Funimation's forum it seems that Toei wants to them to prioritize Dragon Ball Super over One Piece, which granted from Toei's point of view makes sense considering Dragon Ball is more well known than One Piece in North America.
As to your earlier comment about some of Funimation's voice actors not living near the Dallas/Fort Worth area, I don't that's really problem (at least in the voice acting community) considering the number of voice actors that have done voice over work in Texas, California, and New York, such as Matt Mercer, Cherami Leigh, Michael Sinterniklaas, Laura Bailey, Bryce Papenbrook, etc. (granted examples I listed are mostly Texas and California). Something like a live-action series, especially one that's been revived after being cancelled for a number of years, is a bit more difficult. Since the original actors for the show will have likely moved on to different projects in-between the show's cancellation to it's revival, which is why Netflix's initial season for the continuation of Arrested Development had episodes focusing on one or two of the main characters (before they re-cut that season) and why Community ultimately ended after season six.
And maybe I reading to much into it, but I think another sign that Funimation is not cancelling the dub, is the special features present on their latest releases (such as behind the scenes stuff and interviews with the voice actors). If they were cancelling the dub I'd think their recent releases would be a very bare bones release with just the special itself and possibly trailers as the only special feature. It wouldn't make much sense for them to put more effort into something they were planning to drop.
Oh, I'm not saying that Funimation getting VA's to come in from out of town is a particularly difficult task. They've been doing it for years at this point. I'm just saying that it does require a bit more effort and scheduling on their end, and doesn't seem like something you'd do for a series that you have no intention of continuing. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
But yeah, I agree to your point about the special features. Like it seems to me that, based on the way Funimation talks about and treats the property, it's something that they are very actively and visibly putting effort into. Idk maybe we'll be proven wrong. But I think Toei's just up to their semi-regular tricks again.
Yeah I don’t believe any rumor of the dub being cancelled. For multiple reasons:
1.) Why would they wait to make an announcement “soon”? If the rumor was true and FUNimation was going to leave people in the dark and not say why they were canceling the dub it seems pretty redundant they would wait at all to do it. Also I can’t see them making an announcement like that and not giving some sort of explanation. It’d be quite ridiculous if they made an announcement of that magnitude just a single sentence and nothing beyond that.Also it’s been over a week now so unless FUNi’s definition of soon extends beyond 10+ days there’s no announcement coming.
2.) As mentioned a great number of times they’ve already got a good chunk if not all of Season 10 dubbed already. I understand there’s nothing stopping the powers that be keeping it from coming out if they wanted to, but all signs in that department point toward the dub still being in production even if it’s moving at a snails pace, or even at all right now.
3.) The VA’s all talk about it on twitter like its still going on. It would seem strange for them to talk about a show like they were just in the booth with it yesterday if it were over for them. It could be true that they have no idea either but if the rumor’s originator’s alleged source, a voice actor, is in the know I can’t see the main cast not being either.
So yeah, I think it’s highly unlikely the dub is flat-out cancelled. No way to know for sure, but if they cancelled the dub I would be legitimately surprised.
Also Episode of East Blue coming out this fall (most likely September) doesn’t come as a surprise. I still think they’re going to round out 2019 by releasing Episode of East Blue in September and Episode of Skypiea in December but announce the new season around the anniversary. Or maybe they’ll bless us with a new season in the fall along with the specials, that would be pretty dope.
I don't think anyone in here wants to see the dub get canceled. But how long has it been since the final set of Fishman Island dropped now? And not a single shred of news, not to mention a lot of whispering but no confirmation. There's a lot of factors involved here that could be affecting things, including Sony taking over FUNi a year ago, recent drama going on with the company (two sets of drama at that) and of course the issues with Hands Up/Blu-Rays/rights issues with Toei if any of that is going on.
A year ago I was willing to wait a bit for Hands Up and Blu-Rays. Now I could honestly care less and just want to see things move again. What hurts is having to sit through the slog that is Fishman Island, anticipating one of my personal favorite sagas, Punk Hazard/Dressrosa, only to be blue balled for what I think has to be around a year now with no news in sight.
Just for the love of god, FUNi, please just confirm yes or no. Continuing or dropped. At least that would help give us an idea of where we are at.
One More theory I have is that maybe Toei is trying to do what they did to 4kids and Saban and try to give them another license to a show they REALLY dont want. Like maybe Toei has some pet anime they want dubbed and Funi's having a hard time telling them no.
One More theory I have is that maybe Toei is trying to do what they did to 4kids and Saban and try to give them another license to a show they REALLY dont want. Like maybe Toei has some pet anime they want dubbed and Funi's having a hard time telling them no.
Like what? The only major unlicensed title of recent is that new Kitaro show they have, but that's about it. I don't think that's the case this time around, but I do agree with you that Toei's likely pulling some stupid bs as they are so good at doing.
But let's not rule out Funimation being the cause as well. I just learned that they are producing a dub of a show called Nichijou, a title that flopped with a capital F in Japan and was previously put out by Funi in a subtitled-only format (one of the only times Funi has done this) because they felt it would sell badly, and wouldn't get a return on investment for producing a dub. The fact that they are scraping the bottom of the barrel by dubbing an obscure, decade-old, panned show, over more episodes of a blockbuster title like One Piece is beyond me. Between the overabundance of simuldubbing, a rash of strange decisions as of late, and this news, I'm not sure what the heck's going on down there at Funi HQ.
Like what? The only major unlicensed title of recent is that new Kitaro show they have, but that's about it. I don't think that's the case this time around, but I do agree with you that Toei's likely pulling some stupid bs as they are so good at doing.
But let's not rule out Funimation being the cause as well. I just learned that they are producing a dub of a show called Nichijou, a title that flopped with a capital F in Japan and was previously put out by Funi in a subtitled-only format (one of the only times Funi has done this) because they felt it would sell badly, and wouldn't get a return on investment for producing a dub. The fact that they are scraping the bottom of the barrel by dubbing an obscure, decade-old, panned show, over more episodes of a blockbuster title like One Piece is beyond me. Between the overabundance of simuldubbing, a rash of strange decisions as of late, and this news, I'm not sure what the heck's going on down there at Funi HQ.
Nichijou? jeez. I don't get why they bother with trash like that. The resources that will take up, is it really worth it?. They are simuldubbing way too much - especially isekai shows. Though I get it, that there are people who insist they want these simuldubbed, and won't wait, surely they need to be more selective over the sheer quantity they are producing.
At the end of the day, I've no doubt Toei are likely the reason for this hiatus, but to be honest, perhaps Funimation are the ones delaying the release, so they have an announcement worthy of the 20th Anniversary. Though simply saying, happy 20th anniversary to the One Piece TV Anime - here's the season 10 you've been waiting nearly 2 years for…. strange.
Now hold on, that’s not all true about Nichijou.
Nichijou’s home video releases did not sell well in Japan, but it was simulcast on Crunchyroll and garnered a cult following in the West which has only generated interest and good word of mouth since it initially aired 8 years ago. It also had some licensing troubles in America, because Bandai acquired it in 2011(?) right before they downsized and stopped production on all their properties. Funi only just acquired the rights back in 2016 and used a sub only release to test the waters and see if that cult following translated into good sales numbers, which clearly it did if they’re producing a dub and putting out another release.
Dub’s are expensive to produce, and certainly more expensive than a sub-only release. And if there wasn’t a market for a dubbed release then Funi wouldn’t be wasting the effort or money to make it, especially since they already have hard evidence of how Nichijou performs in terms of sales and streaming. It’s certainly not them ‘scrapping the bottom of the barrel’, and almost certainly has no bearing on if the One Piece dub is continuing or not.
Let's not hate on other series and call them trash just because we're upset over what's going on with One Piece.
I want to apologize ahead of time if I come off as a bit too optimistic about the dub continuing. As Krupp said in an earlier post "don't be like Roman Mack" and more recently ProjectRevolt2019 (who was likely Roman Mack, since after they joined the forum they immediately started posting in this thread in manner similar to Roman Mack). Unlike RM I won't insult people for legitimately worrying about the dub (especially considering the fact that Funimation hasn't made any recent announcements about the main series).
I do have to wonder if in order to get 3D2Y and Nebulandia, Funimation had to license Episode of East Blue as a package deal (I read somewhere when they initially licensed the series, Movie 8 was also part of the deal). And Toei is having Funimation release them rather than sit on ones that might not be big seller on DVD (Episode of East Blue), before they can release more episodes on DVD.
It's possible. These companies love forcing bundles on the North American publishers. TMS forced Funi to do Detective Conan in 52 episode chunks or not at all, for instance (per a recent Q&A on ANN with Lance).
I'm aware of Nichijou's past here in the states, and I do believe it got the short end of the stick. I wasn't trying to diss the show either (it a cute show with great animation), but I was trying to underline how Funimation's priorities are a little… off. Everytime I go on Funi's social media outlets or their YouTube videos, there are people constantly asking about the status of the One Piece dub. The fact that they are prioritizing a cult title over a heavily in-demand title just seems strange, that's all I was saying.
Also, regarding the state of simuldubbing, you know things are getting out of hand when Funinow members are even asking "why are you dubbing this show?!", in the comments section. Seriously, it's like they do zero market research anymore.
I don't think Toei really cares about Sony buying Funimation or the behind the scenes "drama" that might occur at Funimation. Toei is a business and their overall goal is to make money and build up their portfolio by licensing their products overseas. If those were reasons to take away One Piece from them, then they would have also taken away Dragon Ball as well. As long as a company they do business with treats their properties with respect and makes them money than I think they're good. Also any "drama" that unfolds in the USA doesn't really effect a company in Japan.
I'm willing to bet it has to do with the specials considering that many foreign countries have dubbed the specials already unlike us and Toei is known to be stingy with things, making companies dub and release other things as a prerequisite to release something else. I don't believe the dub is cancelled, I just believe the VAs have no knowledge of the business side of things
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Toei had a hand in things either.
It just seems like we’re talking in endless speculative circles. Is there any way to get information from them? Tweeting them, asking OPP, or someone bothering them at a convention? I’m really tired of this wait.
Pestering people is not likely to get you anywhere, especially when a lot of those voice actors, social media people and OPP members are probably also in the dark about this situation. We'll only get information when Funi chooses to put it out there (or if we see the next season show up in solicitations)
Pestering people is not likely to get you anywhere, especially when a lot of those voice actors, social media people and OPP members are probably also in the dark about this situation. We'll only get information when Funi chooses to put it out there (or if we see the next season show up in solicitations)
I more meant the people who can get the answers, not random voice actors.
If you were skeptical about rumors before, why are you after more hearsay now? There won't be any actual confirmation until Funi officially puts it out. Or until it's been about 3 years without a word, then it'd be safe enough to guess.
I more meant the people who can get the answers, not random voice actors.
But if Funimation aren't willing to put that information out there than pestering "people who can get the answers" isn't going to work. Also how do you know for certain which people can even get that? You specifically mentioned tweeting at them (which would be the people in charge of social media) and the OPP, but just because they have ties with Funimation doesn't necessarily mean they're capable of giving us answers.
But if Funimation aren't willing to put that information out there than pestering "people who can get the answers" isn't going to work. Also how do you know for certain which people can even get that? You specifically mentioned tweeting at them (which would be the people in charge of social media) and the OPP, but just because they have ties with Funimation doesn't necessarily mean they're capable of giving us answers.
There might also be Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs) in place that prevent them from just giving out information to random individuals without Funi and Toei's approval first. And it's not just Funimation that abides by these, Viz, Sentai, Discotek, and Netflix (when they license anime under their banner) likely have to follow these as well. If they weren't, in Netflix's case for example, they'd likely say when the second half of a series they've licensed would be added to their line-up (such as Fate/Apocrypha, The Seven Deadly Sins, etc.) rather than having to Google "when will rest of [insert title here] be on Netflix?".
All fair enough. I suppose it’s mostly voice actors who go to conventions anyway, not so much the people in charge. I wish there was a way to be proactive about getting a response, but I guess the only thing we can do is wait.
As long as they’re releasing specials, we can’t call OP cancelled. When we go 1-2 years without any releases whatsoever, that’s when I’d admit it’s cancelled. But Jesus, they need to say something before then please.
This still feels to me much closer to the break before getting Season 4, then a risk of cancellation.
I'm aware of Nichijou's past here in the states, and I do believe it got the short end of the stick.
Watched some clips. Looks cute. Reminds me of "Girls' Last Tour." They planning to drop that on their streaming service?