I feel like the bar for "emo edgelords" has been lowered for you guys if you don't think he could be more of one. Personality-wise Kawaki seems like a slightly toned down Bakugou so far. Angry, insulting and arrogant. Probably won't be as funny, though, but it's still early.
Bart Simpson Thread XI: The Movie - The Manga Adaption - The Animation
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Come on, it's not even that bad.
His antagonism is understandable, considering he was molested and then sold as a sex slave when he was a child.
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Come on, it's not even that bad.
His antagonism is understandable, considering he was molested and then sold as a sex slave when he was a child.
His reasons are probably perfectly legit (Even Sasuke's were if you actually looked at them objectively).
But let's be honest, do we expect the manga to go in real deep on who Kawaki is? Or is he just the person Boruto has to fight because we need a rival, and making him super edgelord is how we gotta go.
I mean, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but the first impression on this character is NOT good.
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Boruto in this episode cracked me up. You cheat and you blame Naruto for your own cheating? He even went out of his way to train with Sasuke cause he thought he was cool and badass unlike Naruto. Lmao. The audacity of this brat.
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The fight from this week's episode seemed more interesting than what was in the movie. Very impressive.
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Yeah the fight in the recent Boruto episode was fantastic, right up there with some of the best in the series (Rock Lee Vs Gaara, Naruto Vs Sasuke) in terms of animation and choreography.
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I watched this episode since everyone was talking about it and daaaamn bitch got budget. I wonder if that's how Pain x Naruto was supposed to look like in their heads but then no. The thing was movie level.
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So, I just watched episode 65.
I haven't watched or read any of Boruto at all so I have no context for anything here except what I know from the old show and it pretty much suffices. Plot doesn't matter, all you need to know is they threw a ton of money at the animation budget for the fight scenes in that episode.
The rest you can just sort of fill in from general knowledge of the franchise. Its probably both a good AND terrible sign that, aside from not recognizing a couple characters, I don't feel like I'm at all missing years of story and context to be able to follow it.
Naruto's powered up glowy form and Sasuke's mismatched eyes are both still really dumb looking.
But man, they really threw some money into that fight.
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Its not money. Its time and effort that make or break animation. In Japan, animators are ALWAYS paid a minimal amount and its up to the crew's connections and talent to create God Tier animation.
…Im being rude. Aint I? IM SORRY! But just you know I aint just talking shit take some words of wisdom from Kanzenshuu's Ajay.
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I love how this episode has apparently broken everyone out of the stupor of the endless Naruto miasma. Like, "Whoa! Hey! This episode had really good animation and…something worth talking about. Wait, did something happen? Should I be watching this?"
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Boruto is still a fairly boring story. But yes that episode even got me a bit hyped even though I've already seen it in 2 other formats. But I'm wondering if it's just going back to filler or if it's gonna go to follow the manga now for a bit and then filler again.
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Well it's back to filler. It's Cho Cho filler so I don't fully hate it. But I'm questioning how old this actor is that she's supposed to be bodyguarding…
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God, Kawaki is definitely old Sasuke.
https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/boruto-naruto-next-generations/en/0/26/page/1
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God, Kawaki is definitely old Sasuke.
Sasuke had some manners
not a lot, but some at least
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Newest episode was almost exactly like that Snake Way Princess episode in DBZ.
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https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/boruto-naruto-next-generations/en/0/27/page/1
I liked this chapter. I actually laughed at Kawaki's
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This chapter wasn't too bad. But I'm pretty tired of edgelord McGee already.
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I'm happy that I abandoned boruto. Going back to mediocre after being comically bad is just meh.
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Good lord this fucking Kawaki guy is just too much.
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I'm just enjoying these last 2 chapters. Lot more than that never ending mission. It's good seeing Naruto enjoy an idyllic life with his family. It seems like the author is much more comfortable with that kind of setting and he's doing a lot better than Kishi. He tended to just skip the small stuff like this and let us fill in the blanks.
Don't really mind Kawaki. The interaction is more fun than expected. Even though he is Sasuke reimagined. Even obtained an ability in a similar fashion. Wonder if it turns out he had an additional ability he hasn't yet unlocked all along.
Oh and gotta look forward to seeing Kawaki and Sasuke interact. :ninja:
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What logic, letting Kawaki escape even though it would have been easy capturing him. Now trying to get him back in konoha…
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Why is it so hard to post a link before going on about the chapter? See it happen in multiple threads. It's common courtesy.
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What logic, letting Kawaki escape even though it would have been easy capturing him. Now trying to get him back in konoha…
The villains are an annoying level of over confident.
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The villains are an annoying level of over confident.
Hope that Koji guy gets destroyed by Naruto. Im still impressed that no one cared that he used Rasengan and toads, with him beeing from Konoha i think we get some backround knowledge.
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Why is it so hard to post a link before going on about the chapter? See it happen in multiple threads. It's common courtesy.
Its not hard, just my intend is to talk about it.
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Guys help. I was content on ignoring this series but I'm starting to watch Boruto on Toonami because why not, oh god, don't let me be sucked back into this world >_>
Sad all the students give Shino 0 respect. One of the coolest ninja gets ignored, even as an adult.
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Sad all the students give Shino 0 respect. One of the coolest ninja gets ignored, even as an adult.
Ironically that makes him a better ninja than most of them.
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Ironically that makes him a better ninja than most of them.
he was always one of my favorites when I was actually into the series.
what STILL pisses me off is that Orochimaru isn't locked up somewhere. Kubo would do the exact same thing with Mayuri in Bleach. You don't just let the immoral creepy scientist walk around, goddamn it.
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I don't even remember the reason for letting him do as he wants. He helped out in the end? I think.
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He payed for his crimes! he died twice, so his death sentence was already done.
That's why you don't put "to the death" but extend it to infinity, that's why aizen is still locked up.
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because the episode featured Mitsuki and it talked about how he was from the Sound Village.
i'm sorry, what? You mean it wasn't marked as a total sham after Orochimaru's appearance in the Chunnin Exams?
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It's more the "sound hole in the ground", and it is technically a country so…
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To this day I still don't understand what the Sound Village/Country even is. Like, is it a country that already existed and Orochimaru just took it over, or is it a country that Orochimaru somehow established himself? If the latter, how could he just start up a village/country like that? And how did he get it to be officially recognized by the…I dunno, ninja community.
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he was always one of my favorites when I was actually into the series.
what STILL pisses me off is that Orochimaru isn't locked up somewhere. Kubo would do the exact same thing with Mayuri in Bleach. You don't just let the immoral creepy scientist walk around, goddamn it.
Except Mayuri wasn't a total scum.
Orochimaru is seriously weird and a complete psychopath.
I mean Madara being a genocidal twat has better morals that him.
Orochimaru left a trail of pain and suffering everywhere he went and he actually managed to achieve his goals.
Wtf even is justice when poor Jiraiya corpse still can't be found.
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Don't even get me started on "Obito was a cool guy"
this series is not good at redeeming people
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It's funny, because it turns out Sasuke's way was the correct way to go.
The whole thing at the end of Naruto was so off. We have Sasuke finally spilling the beans on what he wants to do. Blank slate. Evidently, ninja-ing doesn't really work, so let's get rid of it. And all the key figures involved in it. Ok, that last part was a little too drastic, and never really saw why it had to go that far.
But still, at that moment you're still rooting for the main character, and his plan goes: Something, something, make everyone understand each other.
So now we have a status quo with some minimal changes, just to justify all the hassle at the and of Naruto. But the same exact problem appears again.
Which would probably never happen if Sasuke had his way, but on multiple levels, because then there wouldn't even be a spin off like this in the first place. Makes me wonder just how much the extension of franchise had a say in how Kishimoto wrote the ending
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One of my main gripes with this series is that we rarely ever saw non-ninjas. I wanted to know how they felt getting wrapped up in the most convoluted battle that they knew nothing about. It's kinda the same thing with Fairy Tail. I mean are the hidden villages just for ninjas? There was a mention of other rulers but did we actually see them?
Oh and I still wanted to know more about the Samurai forces that randomly showed up.
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he was always one of my favorites when I was actually into the series.
what STILL pisses me off is that Orochimaru isn't locked up somewhere. Kubo would do the exact same thing with Mayuri in Bleach. You don't just let the immoral creepy scientist walk around, goddamn it.
You do when you need a character for exposition later on down the road…...or an occasional punching bag.
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Except Mayuri wasn't a total scum.
He was in the Soul Society arc when he blew up his own subordinates and tortured Uryu's grandfather to death.
But then Kubo decided to forget all that and make him a wacky scientist.
And the lamb lies down on Broadway
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Don't even get me started on "Obito was a cool guy"
this series is not good at redeeming people
I agree that Naruto wasn't good enough in redeeming people. But sometimes it also leaves bitter taste. I still can't digest Oda redeeming Crocodile and i won't be able to accept him redeeming Caeser Clown in future ( which will happen i believe).
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it–always.”
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I agree that Naruto wasn't goon enough in redeeming people. But sometimes it also leaves bitter taste. I still can't digest Oda redeeming Crocodile and i won't be able to accept him redeeming Caeser Clown in future ( which will happen i believe).
Don't see how he redeemed Crocodile. As of now, he's still a bad guy. Luffy and him shared common goal for a while and were in a reluctant temporary alliance. Beggars can't be choosers and Luffy is not some paladin, but a pirate. If you or anyone else started liking the guy along the way, that's not Oda's fault.
Personally, always liked the character.
Caesar on the other hand should have no business being turned into a comic relief that you enjoy seeing interact with the crew. Shouldn't have made him into such a sadistic scumbag in the first place.
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Don't see how he redeemed Crocodile. As of now, he's still a bad guy. Luffy and him shared common goal for a while and were in a reluctant temporary alliance. Beggars can't be choosers and Luffy is not some paladin, but a pirate. If you or anyone else started liking the guy along the way, that's not Oda's fault.
Personally, always liked the character.
Caesar on the other hand should have no business being turned into a comic relief that you enjoy seeing interact with the crew. Shouldn't have made him into such a sadistic scumbag in the first place.
After what he did in Alabasta, making him becoming a 'honest' soul, preaching like 'if you want to protect someone, do it properly' and then setting an example by saving Luffy and Jinbe from Akainu was definitely an attempt to show some redeeming qualities in him.
I am not criticising Oda for how he executed it, after all he mellowed down Croco in the cover story and then their joint jailbreak all placed him right to the point of his final action; but you can't take away his past.
I brought it up mainly in the context of why a mass murderer like Orochimaru was allowed to live. My point is Oda let that too most of the times.He just does better job in 'rehabilitating' a character in the story than Kishi.
As for why Orochimaru wasn't imprisoned in Narutoverse, my guess would be like Sasuke he was also being forgiven due to his contribution in 4th ninja war. Naruto kept him under observation though.“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it–always.”
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As for why Orochimaru wasn't imprisoned in Narutoverse, my guess would be like Sasuke he was also being forgiven due to his contribution in 3rd ninja war. Naruto kept him under observation though.
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But his actions didn't exactly help the situation, whatwith causing the 3rd Hokage's death, and tempting Sasuke into leaving (a reoccuring headache for the Leaf Village). Anko and Yamato were also his victims.I could go on all day about the Uchihas in general, but I'd say we had our fair share throughout all the threads.
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Leaf Village has something of a shaky tendency to be weirdly forgiving
Whether it's forgiving the Cloud Village for violating a peace treaty by trying to kidnap Hinata
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Eventually forgiving Kurama for attacking the village (under mind control) and killing the Fourth Hokage (without mind control).
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I think is more of a precaution, keeping tabs on orochimaru is cheaper and safer than holding or killing him and him respawning somewhere else.
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But his actions didn't exactly help the situation, whatwith causing the 3rd Hokage's death, and tempting Sasuke into leaving (a reoccuring headache for the Leaf Village). Anko and Yamato were also his victims.I could go on all day about the Uchihas in general, but I'd say we had our fair share throughout all the threads.
Yeah! My mistake.
Well had he not resurrected those hokages, the way the story unfold, there were no chance of winning it for the alliance.
I think it had been a norm in shounen manga to forgive major antagonists/villains for a long time, like how Raoh was glorified later in the Fist of North Star, or a killer like Vegeta became a very acceptable character. Bottomline is one shouldn't expect common world logic of crime and punishment in manga.
Early Orochimaru was a awesome character and it was a pity how his development as a character was abandoned by Kishi. For a ardent Naruto fan like me and many others, it is indeed the Uchhihas or more precisely the way Kishi handled them, that plagued the whole story.“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it–always.”
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Yeah! My mistake.
Well had he not resurrected those hokages, the way the story unfold, there were no chance of winning it for the alliance.
I think it had been a norm in shounen manga to forgive major antagonists/villains for a long time, like how Raoh was glorified later in the Fist of North Star, or a killer like Vegeta became a very acceptable character. Bottomline is one shouldn't expect common world logic of crime and punishment in manga.
Early Orochimaru was a awesome character and it was a pity how his development as a character was abandoned by Kishi. For a ardent Naruto fan like me and many others, it is indeed the Uchhihas or more precisely the way Kishi handled them, that plagued the whole story.Edo Tensei, i feel, was a massive mistake narratively. It was eerie and ominous when Orochimaru used the Kages against the Third Hokage, but then you have Kabuto/Obito/whoever digging up literally everyone across the grave. It dragged out the war arc and nearly turned things into a Dragon Ball-esque situation where death kinda had no weight to it, I feel.
Then you get situations with Gaara's dad where Kishimoto just stomps over what was already established.But I suppose in the sense of winning, it worked. Not because Orochimaru was feeling virtouous or remorseful (or hell, even just to spite the Akatsuki side), just to play to Sasuke's whims and cause some rumbling. Villains like him are fun to watch carry out their schemes, not dangle awkwardly between the sides of "totally redeemed" and "well he's not the current bad guy so who cares".
It's interesting you mention Vegeta, it's certainly true Saiyans like him did many awful things. But it took arcs of getting the piss beaten out of him, breaking down in tears, witnessing his own son die, lose a reason to fight seriously, and then learn his greatest rival upstaged him again to truly redeem himself, topped off when the wish to revive all those that died since the morning of the World Tournament - "except the really bad ones" - included him as well.
Where's Orochimaru's breakdown apology to the Leaf?The jury is out on Crocodile until we see him again, but I can see why the complaint that he's "redeemed" holds some water.
Now Sasuke…..just.....fuck Sasuke. He and his clan sucked the joy and fairness out of the entire story.
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He was in the Soul Society arc when he blew up his own subordinates and tortured Uryu's grandfather to death.
But then Kubo decided to forget all that and make him a wacky scientist.
Mayuri was so cartoonishly evil that he carried photos of his unethical body-horror research around FOR YEARS, just on the off chance he could rub them in the face of a relative of the research subject.
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Don't see how he redeemed Crocodile. As of now, he's still a bad guy. Luffy and him shared common goal for a while and were in a reluctant temporary alliance. Beggars can't be choosers and Luffy is not some paladin, but a pirate. If you or anyone else started liking the guy along the way, that's not Oda's fault.
Personally, always liked the character.
The last time we saw him was on a cover page where sadistic, civil-war engineering, cynical Crocodile was holding an umbrella for a cute little puppy, while he himself chose to stand in the rain, aka his ultimate weakness. He may not've been "redeemed" in the classical shonen-trope sense, but he's absolutely been completely let off the hook, villainy-wise. Barring a few weeks in jail, he essentially got off scot free for everything he did in Alabasta.
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That puppy scene is as canonical as Doflamingo loaning his glasses to a random flamingo.
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Sure. But it signals a certain attitude towards this character, to put them in situations like that. Can you picture Oda using Arlong, Caesar, Hody or St Charloss in that way?
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Also Uryu not getting justice for Soken is one thing I won't forgive Kubo for.
