@Robby:
They had some presence on Sabondy and it was clear they had all grown some over the course of two years. Anyone that didn't do anything at Dresserossa just got a blanket bump for "clearly they're stronger after 2 years but we have no idea how much."
There's been no similar "new data" to give a blanket bump to the missing members now so it'd be weird to only update half the crew at this point… especially when we as readers know they're going to have a major event just a week later.
i get your point and this makes complete sense, but to say
@Robby:
Also, half the strawhats aren't even in this arc. Be weird to inflate just some of them.
when we've seen just that is a bad argument.
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@Count:
Kaido and his Calamities would look more impressive if Linlin's bounty was kept secret until after this arc. At least, going by Oda's logic.
i completely agree with you, however i hate this. As much as bounty isn't strength oda knows its used for hype. We received two (maybe 3) oda box introductions for perospero and not once was his bounty revealed until it was time to "take him out". On a side note tho, do you think smoothie's bounty was revealed so as to not overshadow katakuri? otherwise, he could have waited to reveal hers until she did something.
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@Shobu:
What's the point of creating someone more impressive than a commander like Katakuri??
I already know, for facts, that he's stronger than Marco, Ace, Jozu, Thatch, Cracker, Jack and Smoothie.
For Kaido, the thing is that after its title, i can't give him credit, but for those below, it seems pointless.
where is the facts? lets take out the dead and apart from the known fact of kata being the strongest of big mom's commanders, we're left with
Marco, Jozu and jack. what facts do we have that says katakuri is stronger than the three of them?
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@Shift:
Chiming in here with the possibility that at the very least, Sanji's bounty will have to be changed from "Only Alive" to the standard DoA to reflect his unprotected status. Whether Judge will actively cancel that stipulation or not, I have no clue.
It'd also be interesting if Carrot somehow got a bounty just for tagging along with the Straw Hats. We'll see, I guess.
Since you bring this up, does the vinsmokes lose their standings with the world government? Stussy being the agent is there to report the findings. or do you think the government who already knows that they have crooked nations on their side will let it slide? If so, does sanji still gain the dead or alive bounty?
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@Count:
But there is isn't really any point in the story where Luffy can get a higher bounty after defeating Kaido. It's not like Luffy is even going to become as powerful as Kaido at the end of Wano Country, he will still need help in that battle. The Final War involving Akainu and Blackbeard will be way too hectic for something as trivial as new bounties to get assigned by the World Government. And Oda would probably want the Straw Hats' bounties to be lower than those of the Blackbeard Pirates to play them up as the underdogs as usual. The only point where Luffy can reasonably get a bounty increase would be after accessing Raftel and getting One Piece, but the circumstances around that are a whole can of worms that are difficult to determine.
I think robby or you were the ones who said it, but WaNo may be the last major bounty raise we get for the strawhat crew as a whole, and i think im ok with that, but it would be great to see the crew members get some increase for their own individual actions.
as an example, say luffy got the biggest bounty increase to say 1.2B and zoro reaches say 500m. What if in another arc zoro would then rise to say 800 or something while luffy stays at 1.2B. I think it would be a dope idea as luffy is a major threat and his crew is even becoming that much more dangerous.
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@Count:
Everything you are saying is absolutely logical. But I can't see Oda resisting the chance to give Luffy a perfectly round 1 Billion bounty number that happens to be exactly double the bounty he has now, even if it is underwhelmingly lower than even Katakuri's bounty. But I would love to be surprised.
Do you think luffy will take the brunt of the blame for what happens to WaNo like say impel down or alabasta? or do you think it'll be a worse generational blame thing spreading the love/hate evenly? if its the latter i can completely see the bounty being 1B even like how luffy is sharing the spotlight for doffy's downfall with Law. However if its the former, how do you explain such a low bounty? (relatively)
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@Count:
They can maybe draw a connection to the Straw Hats, albeit a very loose one. But there is no reason to only blame the Straw Hats wheh Stussy herself saw the box explode and knows it's a treasure from Fishmsn Island. Fishman Island and the Straw Hats can both share suspicion. But blaming the whole thing on Luffy exclusively just because if the simultaneous coup seems like a stretch, even for the World Government.
the chateau isn't really that important of a feat to garner an increase, but the addition of the chateau with everything else involved in the coup is big news. Jinbei and Capone leaving and allying with strawhats who defeated a commander is big news.
what we're arguing now is if the news will get out and go public. im leaning towards it wont but im sure the news of capone and jinbei leaving will definitely be released if nothing else. With them leaving and the chaos they caused in totland, what does that say about the threat of Jinbei, luffy, capone and maybe vinsmokes if they aren't drawn in.